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Robert Analog posted:This isn't really what anyone is talking about but I would be uncomfortable listening to a gay rapper explicitly rap about sex. so don't listen to them. that's fine. what wouldn't be fine would be getting on a soapbox and telling everyone about how that rapper is detrimental to society/hip-hop because of their lifestyle.
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Not the same thing obviously but the "black rap community" did do a total 180 on eating pussy over like a 10 yr or less period so i imagine the same thing will probably happen with other "rap taboos" such as homosexuality for example 
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If you attempt to please your partner sexually you're a real bitch tbh
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thathonkey posted:Not the same thing obviously but the "black rap community" did do a total 180 on eating pussy over like a 10 yr or less period so i imagine the same thing will probably happen with other "rap taboos" such as homosexuality for example hahahahahaha you gotta be kidding me
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Robert Analog posted:This isn't really what anyone is talking about but I would be uncomfortable listening to a gay rapper explicitly rap about sex. And I'm not comfortable listening to Biggie getting his dick sucked but that's why God invented the skip button.
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Mar 27, 2015 04:56
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remember back in the 80s when people were beat within inches of their lives (or in some cases to death) for eating pussy. wow that was some really crazy times.
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polpotpotpotpotpot posted:I agree in that media impacts different people differently. Young thug is just being weird, and it's really dumb to not be able to handle it unless he comes out with a disclaimer 'yo i'm just being weird', because, yo, he's just being weird. Like, that's not really hard to figure out, and I think it's pretty ridiculous to think he scarring tons of black children by not coming with an explcit disclaimer. thathonkey posted:Not the same thing obviously but the "black rap community" did do a total 180 on eating pussy over like a 10 yr or less period so i imagine the same thing will probably happen with other "rap taboos" such as homosexuality for example
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temple posted:If thugga wants to be the mouth kissing, blouse wearing type of rapper, no one really cares. actually you're dead wrong and there are many very large communities that would be incredibly benefitted by a prominent black musician coming out of the closet but I think you have a tough time recognizing or acknowledging that because A. you don't belong to them and B. can't speak as an authority to it on the internet
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:actually you're dead wrong and there are many very large communities that would be incredibly benefitted by a prominent black musician coming out of the closet but I think you have a tough time recognizing or acknowledging that because A. you don't belong to them and B. can't speak as an authority to it on the internet
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:actually you're dead wrong and there are many very large communities that would be incredibly benefitted by a prominent black musician coming out of the closet but I think you have a tough time recognizing or acknowledging that because A. you don't belong to them and B. can't speak as an authority to it on the internet Please lecture us more on what's good for us po' ol' nigras  If there's something white folks love, it's telling black people how they should think/feel/react. Dudes wanna try to strip all sociopolitical context from rap poo poo when it comes to race, but let some dude do some suspect homo poo poo and all of the sudden it's time to play "who's most progressive?" and dudes coming with sick burnz and whitesplaining. And TONS of black entertainers have discussed how they see agendas from whites that try to control/distort black masculinity. So obviously when you get some dude who's starting to make a name running around talking about smoking penises and calling other dudes lover and hubby and wearing little girl's dresses, some people are gonna have issues with that-it definitely can be seen as another form of minstrelry and pandering to whites at the expense of other black people. And I know race issues aren't nearly as trendy and you won't get the retweets and facebook likes that seem to drive modern "progressives". But, like with 99% of everything in rap, there's definite race issues and to try to ignore them or talk down to people speaking on them is retarded as gently caress.
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:remember back in the 80s when people were beat within inches of their lives (or in some cases to death) for eating pussy. wow that was some really crazy times. Again. Tongue in cheek post  Obviously i dont think fans of eating v were ever subjected to the type of poo poo gay people have been and still are.
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i have a hard time thinking all of thugger's shtick is sincere tbh
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Mar 27, 2015 05:45
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I love y'all and I would kiss every one of you in the mouth. Also, I'm honestly excited for thug's album. That wobblity wibbity flow is cool
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Double posting with cringe worthy jokes is not a burn or funny! Also hating one dude=/= being a bigot you stupid motherfuckers.Tremendous Taste posted:i have a hard time thinking all of thugger's shtick is sincere tbh They dress and dance like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i6D1yxmfpU thathonkey posted:Not the same thing obviously but the "black rap community" did do a total 180 on eating pussy over like a 10 yr or less period so i imagine the same thing will probably happen with other "rap taboos" such as homosexuality for example lol IM DAY DAY IRL posted:actually you're dead wrong and there are many very large communities that would be incredibly benefitted by a prominent black musician coming out of the closet but I think you have a tough time recognizing or acknowledging that because A. you don't belong to them and B. can't speak as an authority to it on the internet Please list them my wise friend Dayday. What the christ
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Mar 27, 2015 06:20
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Good explanation of why Young Thug is good. Peak Thug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovA6iPznvzw
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alansmithee posted:TONS of black entertainers have discussed how they see agendas from whites that try to control/distort black masculinity. So obviously when you get some dude who's starting to make a name running around talking about smoking penises and calling other dudes lover and hubby and wearing little girl's dresses, some people are gonna have issues with that-it definitely can be seen as another form of minstrelry and pandering to whites at the expense of other black people. This is an interesting one, see it a lot in this thread and it usually ends up with someone posting the Pac in the bath photo. I definitely get the point. It's hard to figure out really, it's a totally new thing as far as I can figure. I dunno if people went around questioning the sexuality of Jazz players back in the day with the same scrutiny placed on some rapers nowadays. I don't see how someone like Thug would necessarily appeal more to white people because of his sexual ambiguity. Anything Thug does (or is) lately seems to be encouraged and developed a lot by Birdman and he never struck me as someone who was pandering to whites.
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Somehow the Kendrick discussion was "lame", but this is the really pressing one instead? Wow. It is terribly sad how much over analysis people are having over a dude who is literally trolling on the Lil B level: remember his release on Itunes called "I'm gay"? Same type of poo poo. Wayne wears gender bending clothing sometimes and kisses dudes on the mouth, but no one takes this tact with him. There have been somewhat effeminate performers all throughout history and literally none of them has ruined society or w/e the gently caress people think is going to happen. One day we might get an openly gay rapper who hits it big and changes the climate of the very masculine rap game, but this ain't it. No one gives a gently caress about Young Thug's sexuality or how he portrays it or whatever. It's all a ploy to get you to talk about him and it's working sooooo well. This isn't some sort of crafted and trained agent of the white people in order to subvert the black Male archtype, that's the most ridiculous poo poo i've ever heard. There is institutionalized racism all over the place, but the secret weapon has been Thugga all along? 
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Yuzenn posted:Somehow the Kendrick discussion was "lame", but this is the really pressing one instead? Wow.
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Seems like last week everybody judged TPAB as a 0 or perfect 10 and this week we hve all moved onto to music like 56 nights that is actually good to listen to  Either way this conversation is legit way more interesting
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alansmithee posted:Please lecture us more on what's good for us po' ol' nigras It's "minstrelsy" you dumb black man. But I agree, though I don't think there is any sort of agenda on the part of whites to distort or control masculinity in black culture, that's pretty conspiratorial and unlikely in my O. It's supposed to be funny when someone very masculine or someone somewhat frightening to you wears a dress and acts like a woman, don't think there is much beyond that as lame as it is. Just like when people got mad when Lebron was on the cover of that mag with a white woman and he looked ultra masculine and people thought they were comparing him to King kong and all that poo poo. People just play off stereotypes for entertainment value, but there ain't much beyond that. And why do they do it? Because it sells for the moment, and people currently enjoy it. Once it won't sell and people get bored it will stop. It's all about what will sell the most. But, if Young thug isn't gay, then he sure acts really gay for attention, and his thing is becoming more uninteresting with each holier-than-thou progressive post -A member of the coalition to keep black people gay foundation
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New Apathy, "How To Breathe Underwater" off of his upcoming EP. The parts of the video with Ap in a tuxedo were shot at his wedding! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVtr67glHbQ Akala's latest album, "Knowledge is Power vol II" streaming on Noisey until it releases in a few days: http://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/blog/stream-akalas-new-album EDIT: goddamn this Akala album goes hard. Urge to Kill 
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spoils posted:It's "minstrelsy" you dumb black man. It is minstrelry you racist shitbag. And again, everything said above just goes to prove my point (beyond the fact you're little more than a rambling troll)-to most white people it's no big deal, because they don't have any stake. Whites can brush off harmful depictions of blacks as being simply for money or jokes or whatever other dumb poo poo they wanna come up with because they don't care, it's not important/relevant to them. Blacks don't have the privilege of being able to dismiss depictions of them in the media as just being harmless jokes or cashing in on trends, because every image out there reflects on all of us. And to think, I had been starting to think it was ok for white people to listen to rap. I'll never make that mistake again... alansmithee fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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alansmithee posted:It is minstrelry you racist shitbag.
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The tackle was kinda weak, but the casual toss back into the audience redeemed it imo.Kenshin posted:I take serious issue with Young Thug being a "harmful depiction of blacks", but you're not wrong about the rest.
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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > No Music Discussion > Yo! NMD Raps - I had been starting to think it was ok for white people to listen to rap
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As a total sidenote, Slim Thug is p mad we've all just casually slid into calling YT Thugga.
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alansmithee posted:It is minstrelry you racist shitbag. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/minstrelsy http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/minstrelry wikitionary is not a dictionary, but you're probably into descriptivism anyway lol Yeah, you're right. Tyler Perry/eddie murphy/wayans brothers don't dress like women for money or b/c they think it's funny themselves, they do it because they're told to by white society.
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All these thread title suggestions are fine but if it's not SMOKIN PENISES what's the point
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spoils posted:Yeah, you're right. Tyler Perry/eddie murphy/wayans brothers don't dress like women for money or b/c they think it's funny themselves, they do it because they're told to by white society.
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polpotpotpotpotpot posted:As a total sidenote, Slim Thug is p mad we've all just casually slid into calling YT Thugga. This made me wonder what Thugga Sr. was up to...apparently writing for the NYT? (new york times, not new young thug) http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/your-money/slim-thugs-real-estate-game-plan-dashed-by-a-dalliance.html?_r=0
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Tremendous Taste posted:All these thread title suggestions are fine but if it's not SMOKIN PENISES what's the point smokin penises!!!!
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thathonkey posted:The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > No Music Discussion > Yo! NMD Raps - calling other dudes lover and hubby thathonkey posted:The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > No Music Discussion > Yo! NMD Raps - calling other dudes lover and hubby Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Apr 4, 2015 |
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spoils posted:http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/minstrelsy Yeah alan i'm sorry but spoils is spot on with this one. Kenshin posted:They kinda are because lots people pay to see it White people are the main consumers of all content period regardless of genre, lets not conflate the fact that they are the drivers of consumption immediately into some sort of master plan to devalue the black masculinity dynamic. Effectively that happened decades ago and we are only seeing the beginnings of the reclamation of the image. The mere fact that they are even allowed to make the stuff they make speaks to a whole different dynamic; the fact in of itself that those forms of expression and the topics that they broach are even accepted as widely as they are speaks directly to an improvement of the image, not devaluation.The Wayans and Perry similar in the fact that they are very powerful and influential artists who command an exorbitant amount of control and power in media and can do basically whatever they want. I worked for a Senator (who was white) who had to move and cancel his planned event because Perry was taking over the entire city block for a Madea premier. This is in the City of Newark none the less! Dude's got juice on a crazy level. There is something to be said about black masculinity, but Young Thug is not a threat to it. In fact the fact that he can express in the way he can is a tremendous wave in the direction of absolutely free expression, not the other way around. temple posted:I don't think you understood anything anyone said other than thug and gay. You can have an opinion without going "I'm mad as hell" before it. I know you love disagreeing with me, but I'm actually agreeing with most of your points here. Kiss me on the mouth or something here. Yuzenn fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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more like bitch hubby quan eh eh
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Thugga Sr. had a good tape titled Thug Thursdays 2 last year
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This is about a gazillion times better than the last discussion we had about Young Thug. Different topic: I know there isn't much love for Tech N9ne around here but if you do like him his latest video is really well done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxks3Z6QByc Kenshin fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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spoils posted:you're probably into descriptivism anyway lol
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Yuzenn posted:White people are the main consumers of all content period regardless of genre, lets not conflate the fact that they are the drivers of consumption immediately into some sort of master plan to devalue the black masculinity dynamic. Effectively that happened decades ago and we are only seeing the beginnings of the reclamation of the image. The mere fact that they are even allowed to make the stuff they make speaks to a whole different dynamic; the fact in of itself that those forms of expression and the topics that they broach are even accepted as widely as they are speaks directly to an improvement of the image, not devaluation.The Wayans and Perry similar in the fact that they are very powerful and influential artists who command an exorbitant amount of control and power in media and can do basically whatever they want. I worked for a Senator (who was white) who had to move and cancel his planned event because Perry was taking over the entire city block for a Madea premier. This is in the City of Newark none the less! Dude's got juice on a crazy level. Like, my whole thing is that the view that Thugga jr. is a "threat" to black masculinity or being propped up due to some subconscious desire in white folk to see blacks taken down a peg isn't ridiculous or totally without merit, even if it's not what's occurring in this case. I mean me personally? I don't really care either way because music is music and as long as he keeps making stuff I get down with, I'll listen no matter how many frilly ballerina dresses he wears/penises he smokes.
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