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Arrgytehpirate posted:I'm so excited for Daredevil. He's really a badass character and a lot of people had that awful movie as their introduction. Hopefully this show gives the character some much needed love. I was one of these people, and there's still a part of me that can't get the bad taste of Affleck out of my mouth, but I am cautiously optimistic (bordering on mildly hyped) for this interpretation of Daredevil. Ultimately the one of these that I am most excited for is Jessica Jones.
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Daredevil was a generic superhero and then Frank Miller was given free reign on the character. You can see a lot of Miller's motifs and themes that would later define Batman (Year One and DKR) be given a test run in Miller's Daredevil run. It is gobsmackingly good, one of those runs you read and instantly understand why that writer's take instantly was taken as gospel. At the risk of ignoring a lot of talented runs, it wasn't really until Bendis and Brubaker (in successive and linked runs) that someone made other parts of his character work equally well.
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Mar 12, 2015 09:41
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If anyone is interested in catching up with the character the runs you want to read are Miller, Bendis, Brubaker, and Waid. There are other fine installments but those are the ones you want. Miller is the foundation. Bendis and Brubaker are the runs the basically tear the character apart and put him through near endless poo poo and Waid's run is the light at the end of the tunnel that puts him back together.
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Mar 12, 2015 10:00
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Daredevil trailer looks awesome, but is lacking in Catholic themes/imagery.
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Mar 12, 2015 17:34
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This thread is making me hyped
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Mar 12, 2015 17:43
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There was another run from Anna Nacoti that was pretty good as well. I'd love to see Typhoid Mary in this series.
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Mar 12, 2015 18:01
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Blazing Ownager posted:
Yeah, Daredevil rules. He's one of the heroes that actually killed people and didn't even bat an eye about it. He's also tortured bad guys. He's a pretty drat grimdark character.
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Mar 12, 2015 18:08
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Yeah, Daredevil rules. He's one of the heroes that actually killed people and didn't even bat an eye about it. He's also tortured bad guys. He's a pretty drat grimdark character. I thought Daredevil didn't kill? I mean, he's always giving The Punisher grief for killing people, which would make him a hypocrite if that were the case. I thought his thing, since being a lawyer, was to see these criminals put through the process of law.
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Mar 12, 2015 21:51
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Murdock's not quite as 'no-kill' as Spider-Man or Batman, but he usually wants the bad guys to get due process. He's been pushed a few times, including a riveting issue where he basically plays Russian Roulette with an in-traction Bullseye for killing his lover and ruining his life. PK loving SUBBAN posted:Daredevil trailer looks awesome, but is lacking in Catholic themes/imagery. The teaser trailer that came out first has him going to confession. notthegoatseguy posted:There was another run from Anna Nacoti that was pretty good as well. I'd love to see Typhoid Mary in this series. Ann Nocenti. She actually had a slightly similar approach to Waid, in that they both featured villains you might not otherwise think of putting Daredevil against.
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Mar 12, 2015 21:58
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Deadpool posted:If anyone is interested in catching up with the character the runs you want to read are Miller, Bendis, Brubaker, and Waid. There are other fine installments but those are the ones you want. Miller is the foundation. Bendis and Brubaker are the runs the basically tear the character apart and put him through near endless poo poo and Waid's run is the light at the end of the tunnel that puts him back together. I remember really liking Kevin Smith's run (with Quesada doing the art I think) but maybe that's just because at the time Daredevil had been such a terribly wasted character, and this was actually attempting something interesting, maybe it's aged horribly? Bendis' run was stupendous though.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:05
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Jerusalem posted:I remember really liking Kevin Smith's run (with Quesada doing the art I think) but maybe that's just because at the time Daredevil had been such a terribly wasted character, and this was actually attempting something interesting, maybe it's aged horribly? Quesada's art was great, but Smith's script did fall a little into 'greatest hits' territory, and the villain is very Marmite among readers. People either love the novelty, or hate the outcome.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:11
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Like I said there are plenty of other good runs on the character that I didn't mention that are worth reading. The Nocenti run is fine, the Diggle run between Brubaker and Waid is fine, and the Kevin Smith run is a run that also exists and can be read with your eyes.
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Mar 12, 2015 22:17
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Yeah, the Kevin Smith run might've worked better if you read it at the time, but coming to it like a couple of years ago I thought it was a deeply cynical piece of poo poo. Like all the AIDS stuff and Daredevil almost killing a baby for no reason, just awful.
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Mar 12, 2015 23:14
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I think the AIDS thing was actually Smith trying to actually cover the topic, not just a shock-value thing. He introduced an HIV positive character in Green Arrow also.
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Gaz-L posted:I think the AIDS thing was actually Smith trying to actually cover the topic, not just a shock-value thing. He introduced an HIV positive character in Green Arrow also. He created Speedy but it was Winnick that made her HIV positive years later.
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Mar 12, 2015 23:33
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Davros1 posted:I thought Daredevil didn't kill? I mean, he's always giving The Punisher grief for killing people, which would make him a hypocrite if that were the case. I thought his thing, since being a lawyer, was to see these criminals put through the process of law. I forget the run but he kills a bunch of Hand ninjas and I vaguely remember him killing Bullseye once.
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Mar 13, 2015 02:33
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Arrgytehpirate posted:I forget the run but he kills a bunch of Hand ninjas and I vaguely remember him killing Bullseye once. That was the Shadowland mini-series where he sort of became a bad guy.
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Mar 13, 2015 02:36
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Deadpool posted:If anyone is interested in catching up with the character the runs you want to read are Miller, Bendis, Brubaker, and Waid. There are other fine installments but those are the ones you want. Miller is the foundation. Bendis and Brubaker are the runs the basically tear the character apart and put him through near endless poo poo and Waid's run is the light at the end of the tunnel that puts him back together. The Death of Captain Jean DeWolf is also good, and as it's a Spider-Man/Daredevil story that defines both those characters.
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Mar 16, 2015 03:13
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Deadpool posted:Also as for the grittiness of Daredevil, if there's one character where that's not just a buzzword it's Daredevil. Grittiness is a core part of the character and it defines most of the classic stories. No superhero gets dumped on like Daredevil. His life is hell. And it's entertaining a as hell. And I say that as someone that normally doesn't care for dark and gritty comics. Daredevil is the exception. My favorite Daredevil moment was during Inferno. Everything is going to poo poo and he's trapped in a Frank Miller drawn techno organic demon hell, and the only way he can cope is to wordlessly beat as much rear end as possible with a vacant expression. Like, he's beating a possessed human to death with its own hook hand while it taunts him the entire time, and the only reaction he has is a "gently caress my life" PTSD stare. 
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Mar 17, 2015 01:13
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New Daredevil motion poster; might have our first glimpse of the MCU version of the classic horned costume (look closely at the reflection). https://youtu.be/ltzGfeqWp_M
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Mar 19, 2015 21:56
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Barry Convex posted:New Daredevil motion poster; might have our first glimpse of the MCU version of the classic horned costume (look closely at the reflection). Who is narrating? I hope Its not daredevil. I don't think i like The voice that much. Its giving me Bale flashbacks
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Mar 19, 2015 23:09
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just_a_guy posted:Who is narrating? I hope Its not daredevil. I don't think i like The voice that much. Its giving me Bale flashbacks Several voices, I recognize at least Kingpin and Daredevil in there, maybe some others too I forget. (wasn't there a woman?)
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Mar 19, 2015 23:12
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There's some Kingpin and Urich, for sure.
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Mar 19, 2015 23:15
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Matt is the last voice. Night Nurse right before him. The line about Hell's Kitchen needing to die was Fisk. The one about no heroes and villains was Ben Urich. The first female was probably Karen Page.
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Mar 19, 2015 23:21
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Arrgytehpirate posted:I forget the run but he kills a bunch of Hand ninjas and I vaguely remember him killing Bullseye once. Eh, ninjas are like aliens, monsters, or robots in that you can kill them without moral repercussions.
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Mar 29, 2015 16:52
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Soonmot posted:Eh, ninjas are like aliens, monsters, or robots in that you can kill them without moral repercussions. See: Arrow a couple weeks ago when they were infiltrating the league vs this week when "he hasn't killed anybody in years"
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Mar 29, 2015 18:31
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Grain of salt: Devin Faraci says he's "hearing very bad buzz on Daredevil." Granted, he's been pretty negative on the show and the rest of the Defenders project for a while, so we'll have to wait until the reviews hit (later this week, I think) to see how much of this is confirmation bias and how much is an accurate summary of critical opinion.
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Mar 30, 2015 22:51
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New Daredevil trailer, horrible facebook link: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1607643129471924&set=vb.1405070773062495 (sorry, there's probably a youtube but I didn't see it anywhere)
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Mar 30, 2015 23:03
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Barry Convex posted:Grain of salt: Devin Faraci says he's "hearing very bad buzz on Daredevil." Granted, he's been pretty negative on the show and the rest of the Defenders project for a while, so we'll have to wait until the reviews hit (later this week, I think) to see how much of this is confirmation bias and how much is an accurate summary of critical opinion. So what has he thought of other shows? What is he like as a critic?
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HERAK posted:So what has he thought of other shows? What is he like as a critic? Devin Faraci is an alright news source for certain things, but he's hardly an arbiter of good taste. Some things he's right on about and some things he's way off. Like most critics.
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Mar 30, 2015 23:35
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Soonmot posted:Eh, ninjas are like aliens, monsters, or robots in that you can kill them without moral repercussions. And remember, Ninjas are more afraid of you than you are of them
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Mar 31, 2015 00:03
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HERAK posted:So what has he thought of other shows? What is he like as a critic? He's garbage and a huge baby in general. That said, he's a blatant cheerleader for Marvel poo poo so if he's putting out news saying Daredevil is bad, it may well be shockingly terrible.
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Mar 31, 2015 01:43
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Azhais posted:And remember, Ninjas are more afraid of you than you are of them Just remember the Law of Ninjitsu. Multiple ninjas are easy meat no matter who's fighting them. A lone ninja is a world ending badass only defeated by dint of heroic effort and sacrifice. Therefore, when you've killed all but the last two ninjas, try to kill them both simultaneously to prevent an occurrence of Lone Ninja. 
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Mar 31, 2015 03:33
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Sentinel Red posted:He's garbage and a huge baby in general. That said, he's a blatant cheerleader for Marvel poo poo so if he's putting out news saying Daredevil is bad, it may well be shockingly terrible. Marvel Studios, yes. Marvel Television, not so much.
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Mar 31, 2015 03:50
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Luke Cage has a showrunner: http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvel-names-southland-producer-hodari-coker-as-luke-cage-showrunner
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Mar 31, 2015 19:53
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A review of the first episode of Daredevil. http://televisedrevolution.com/review/review-marvels-daredevil-episode-1
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SaintFu posted:Luke Cage has a showrunner: http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/marvel-names-southland-producer-hodari-coker-as-luke-cage-showrunner Anyone involved with making any part of Southland is good news to me.
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Mar 31, 2015 20:11
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Deadpool posted:Anyone involved with making any part of Southland is good news to me. I hope it works out because I more exited for Luke Cage then all the others.
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Mar 31, 2015 20:24
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lomzus posted:A review of the first episode of Daredevil. Well that's pretty hopeful. 
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lomzus posted:A review of the first episode of Daredevil. quote:Following the weak Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and the better, but barely watched, Agent Carter series Agents of Shield has been loving great since the last half of season 1, this guy should probably go and finish the series.
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