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John Charity Spring posted:There are a few characters who are obviously Americans putting on English accents (the Maester and Gwyn in particular) but Gwyn is really bad at it. It goes from English to Australian to having very American pronunciations sprinkled in too (pronouncing 'utter' as 'udder' for instance). Well it's Laura Bailey and she's good as gently caress so she seems to be doing something niche or taking bad direction.
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AdjectiveNoun posted:What happens in this episode if You got the Glenmore betrothal in episode 2? What excuse do they give for why you can't fight back yet? You're not actually married
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Mar 27, 2015 18:13
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I wonder how they'll handle the wedding, considering you might not have secured the marriage? Game of Thrones seems to like having big, dramatic weddings so I'm not automatically inclined to believe it'll get broken up but maybe if you don't marry into the Glenmores you'll have some other betrothal opportunity instead? I still wouldn't be surprised if someone marrying Gwyn to create peace between the Whitehills and the Forresters is an option, her being the peace route while marrying Elaena to get her father's army is for war.
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Mar 27, 2015 20:32
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Karnegal posted:But then how does she know Asher is coming back? I felt like she gave you info that would have been confidential. I feel like that's something that Ryon could have overheard, and I can see Gwyn coaxing something like that out of him. They didn't only talk about Asher in the council room after all, they were talking about him outside near the stables too, and I believe in one other place that wasn't exactly private.
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Mar 27, 2015 21:42
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There's also the fact that if you decide to save Ryon in your game plan with the council earlier, Gwyn will know about that too and tell you that the Whitehills have also been informed, which pretty much confirms that there's a spy.
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Mar 28, 2015 02:32
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Another reason why I think the mother would be a traitor is she went for Ashur while Ethan was still alive, before Ramsay and the Whitehills made things even worse. It makes me think that Ashur and whatever sellswords he got were meant to be protection, and before that could happen she had her youngest taken hostage and her second youngest son killed, so she's trying to defuse things in the way she thinks is best.
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Mar 28, 2015 02:58
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bobjr posted:Another reason why I think the mother would be a traitor is she went for Ashur while Ethan was still alive, before Ramsay and the Whitehills made things even worse. It makes me think that Ashur and whatever sellswords he got were meant to be protection, and before that could happen she had her youngest taken hostage and her second youngest son killed, so she's trying to defuse things in the way she thinks is best. If so, she's making a case for dumbest woman in the seven kingdoms, which is a pretty tense race
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Mar 28, 2015 03:01
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Seriously the only way for it not to be totally braindead stupid and contrived is for it to be the Maester
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Mar 28, 2015 03:29
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Are all these Whitehill soldiers fathered by Snidely Whiplash? *jokes about a kid being killed in cold-blood like its the funniest joke ever told, twirls mustache*
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Mar 28, 2015 04:09
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Hipster Occultist posted:Are all these Whitehill soldiers fathered by Snidely Whiplash? *jokes about a kid being killed in cold-blood like its the funniest joke ever told, twirls mustache* Its no different from Lanister soldiers attaching the head of Robs wolf to his body and jumping around with it. Seems to be the thing to do in the 7 kingdoms.
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Mar 28, 2015 06:03
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Hipster Occultist posted:Are all these Whitehill soldiers fathered by Snidely Whiplash? *jokes about a kid being killed in cold-blood like its the funniest joke ever told, twirls mustache* Because life in the ASoIaF universe is Brutal and Harsh, pretty everyone who isn't a wide-eyed innocent or hung up on honor is into gallows humor. The Whitehills are par for the course.
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Mar 28, 2015 06:40
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Pththya-lyi posted:Because life in the ASoIaF universe is Brutal and Harsh, pretty everyone who isn't a wide-eyed innocent or hung up on honor is into gallows humor. The Whitehills are par for the course. That's not even gallows humor though, literally every villain is an insane sociopath. The Whitehills alone are about as subtle as a shotgun blast to the teeth
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Mar 28, 2015 07:32
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Accordion Man posted:Seriously the only way for it not to be totally braindead stupid and contrived is for it to be the Maester It also explains why him telling Evil Spazz not to shred the hurt dude's arm in half actually gets the guy to stop. I'd rather it be dumb and be a family member instead of dumb and some schmuck that's had two lines in the last two episodes.
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Mar 28, 2015 07:45
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As I've said, I feel like GoT is below average as far as Walking Dead era Telltale games go, but I will feel a lot better about it if it let's me user Asher to murder the gently caress out of everyone not named Forrester. Odds of that seem slim though given GoT's everything sucks always theme.
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Mar 28, 2015 09:03
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The Whitehills aren't just sociopaths, they're morons, and I feel like if anyone but Ramsay was in charge of them they'd have been brought in line by now or the Forresters wouldn't have been kept alive in the first place. When you force someone to submit and then keep kicking them, you're begging for an uprising. They're going to get hosed no matter what so there's no reason to hold back.
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Mar 28, 2015 09:12
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The Whitehills were a nothing family before the events of the game, they probably don't quite know how to deal with suddenly having power
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Mar 28, 2015 09:53
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I figured Poppa Whitehill probably specially chose Gryff and some of his nastiest, most brutish men to help make sure he gets the provocation he wants. Hell, he's probably hoping you kill Gryff (he's only a 4th-borne) and give him ample excuse to demolish your house and take the Ironwood.
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Mar 28, 2015 18:26
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I hope they stay faithful to GRRM/D&D in the way that when the time for the Whitehills bite it comes you question whether or not they truly deserve it. GRRM isn't someone who lets people get away with doing horrible poo poo, even Ned gets what some people may call justice when he gets beheaded by the sword he used to kill that poor deserter, GRRM likes to give us what we ask for but does it in a way where we are meant to question if they truly have it coming. If they just kill all the Whitehills and paint it as something 100% good they won't be giving the source material justice. Even the Mountain suffers a fate many wouldn't wish on anyone, left to get consumed alive by poisons while getting operated on by a man he tortured in Harrenhal and who's famous for horrible horrible poo poo. Joffrey dies begging for his mother to save him and of course we have Theon becoming Reek. Personally I believe Joffrey and the Mountain deserve what they got but it's clear it's not something GRRM wants to be 100% just. Edit: Forgot we don't spoiler tag aired show spoilers 
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Mar 28, 2015 20:58
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BillBear posted:I hope they stay faithful to GRRM/D&D in the way that when the time for the Whitehills bite it comes you question whether or not they truly deserve it. GRRM isn't someone who lets people get away with doing horrible poo poo, even Ned gets what some people may call justice when he gets beheaded by the sword he used to kill that poor deserter, Which is why for next episode With the "you're invited to come to the Whitehill castle", seems like the perfect chance to see the rest of the Whitehill family and show that maybe they aren't all assholes like Ludd and Gryff. Both seem to have massive chips on their shoulders,, but it'd be funny to see if they're the only ones like that in the family, the rest being more like Gwen, who are pretty chill about the whole rivalry thing. It'd certainly make you question if killing their entire family is worth it for the "crimes" of just a couple assholes.
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Mar 29, 2015 05:20
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Which is why for next episode With the "you're invited to come to the Whitehill castle", seems like the perfect chance to see the rest of the Whitehill family and show that maybe they aren't all assholes like Ludd and Gryff. Both seem to have massive chips on their shoulders,, but it'd be funny to see if they're the only ones like that in the family, the rest being more like Gwen, who are pretty chill about the whole rivalry thing. It'd certainly make you question if killing their entire family is worth it for the "crimes" of just a couple assholes. Can't we just kill the assholes? I know the answer is "no" this is GoT, but at this point do you really just let your murdered brother go? I mean, we KNOW you can't kill Ramsy so it's the Whitehills or nothing. Also it seems like they were in the Bolton pockets ahead of things, which makes them traitors anyway (if you're pro-North).
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Mar 29, 2015 05:28
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Burn their loving castle to the ground, salt the earth, and scatter the Whitehills to all four corners of the earth. 
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Mar 29, 2015 13:10
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Which is why for next episode With the "you're invited to come to the Whitehill castle", seems like the perfect chance to see the rest of the Whitehill family and show that maybe they aren't all assholes like Ludd and Gryff. Both seem to have massive chips on their shoulders,, but it'd be funny to see if they're the only ones like that in the family, the rest being more like Gwen, who are pretty chill about the whole rivalry thing. It'd certainly make you question if killing their entire family is worth it for the "crimes" of just a couple assholes. I told Mother I would kill them all, down to the babes in their beds. A Lord keeps his word...........
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Karnegal posted:Also it seems like they were in the Bolton pockets ahead of things, which makes them traitors anyway (if you're pro-North). I mean, they have been vassals of the Boltons for centuries. It's not like lord Whitehill was involved in any way in the betrayal of house Stark at the Red Wedding. Kainser fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Mar 29, 2015 |
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Mar 29, 2015 20:19
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Kainser posted:I mean, they have been vassals of the Boltons for centuries. It's not like lord Whitehill was involved in any way in the betrayal of house Stark at the Red Wedding. Ah, I didn't retain that from the earlier games apparently
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Hipster Occultist posted:Burn their loving castle to the ground, salt the earth, and scatter the Whitehills to all four corners of the earth. Basically, this. Gettin' irrationally mad at video games here but seriously, gently caress all those guys.
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Mar 31, 2015 01:37
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Sentinel Red posted:Basically, this. Gettin' irrationally mad at video games here but seriously, gently caress all those guys. For real, even if everyone back at the Whitehill crib are cool guys, he sent the dick brigade to antagonize Roderick so I hope it works. Just not like Whitehill expected.
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Mar 31, 2015 01:45
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Apparently I'm in the extreme minority in making Britt suffer I hate to take out my hate for QTE's on someone though.
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Mar 31, 2015 03:59
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I hate playing the Ironwrath parts. It's so boring and dull being focused on one place having the same poo poo happen over and over again while being a boring cripple.
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Mar 31, 2015 07:35
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Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:I hate playing the Ironwrath parts. It's so boring and dull being focused on one place having the same poo poo happen over and over again while being a boring cripple. What bugs me is that I specifically on my second save game told Tyrion that I didn't want his help at first, but it paints you into a loving corner when he catches you bogarting Cersei's wine. There physically isn't a part where you can *avoid* ever having any dealings with Tyrion and upsetting Margaery. Again, it feels like they minimized the lines of the actual characters so damned much that no matter how much you try to bow out from the straight track, it narrows you back in. Also, did anyone else notice the super-dubbed, almost computer-sounding voice when Jon Snow is talking to Gared? It's like "blah blah script blah GARED."
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NESguerilla posted:Apparently I'm in the extreme minority in making Britt suffer I hate to take out my hate for QTE's on someone though. *HIGH FIVE*. I did it too. Because, this is Game of Thrones. And you don't pass up an opportunity to make a bad guy pay. They don't come along often.
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The Ironrath segments are my favourite, to be honest, and Roderick is my favourite character to play as. Then again I liked Robb a lot in the books and the show so it kind of feels like a chance to continue his (style of) story. As for the Whitehills, the problem in the Feudal system is families are enmeshed in politics, so if Daddy Whitehill is a monster but some of his family aren't, you can't really just take him out and expect even his chillest son and heir to be like "Yeah he was a dick, that's totally fair, let's be friends now". I think his daughter is trying to get things to end in peace without anyone having to kill anyone, but if push came to shove she'd still back her father even if he's not in the right because he's her father. Revenge on the Whitehills will involve killing a lot of people who are blameless, and even if you were to somehow just kill the ones to blame the rest would be angry with you anyway. It's peace or nothing. I think part of the reason they had Ramsay kill Ethan and not have Ludd do it is because it introduces a small element of ambiguity into the feud - Ludd even looks surprised when Ramsay does it, even if he does approve of it later. If Ludd had killed Ethan by his own hand and his own initiative then basically 100% of players would be out for his blood no matter how many women or children they had to go through, but making it Ramsay who did it slightly alters the direct blame.
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So for me the traitor has to either be Lady Forrester or the Maester, I can't see it being either Duncan or Royland, I'm leaning a little towards the Maester simply because of the badly delivered line "no gryff, not the ARM", but honestly it'll probably be Lady Forrester, Does Gwyn mention the north grove at all if you blab about it to everyone? that would let us know now who it is
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Ekusukariba posted:So for me the traitor has to either be Lady Forrester or the Maester, I can't see it being either Duncan or Royland, I'm leaning a little towards the Maester simply because of the badly delivered line "no gryff, not the ARM", but honestly it'll probably be Lady Forrester, Does Gwyn mention the north grove at all if you blab about it to everyone? that would let us know now who it is I chose to save the youngest son first, and the idea of Lady Forrester blabing about that to the people holding him hostage is just so colossally stupid that I can't believe it's even possible. But WD2 had some pretty dumb decisions, so I guess it isn't out of the realm of possibility. I do think it's the Maester, though. Lady Forrester mentioned something about her house losing status because they backed the Targs until they fell. I'm hoping they make that something you can bring up with Dany when you meet with her.
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So yea I took a flier on playing this on the strength of TellTale's games not really being interested in the book or the tv series and wow I am absolutely hooked. Glad I got into it a bit late as I have two more episodes to play  It feels like there is SO MUCH WEIGHT behind every decision, even it ends up being the typical story is only slightly different smoke and mirrors the_american_dream fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Apr 3, 2015 |
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Max posted:I chose to save the youngest son first, and the idea of Lady Forrester blabing about that to the people holding him hostage is just so colossally stupid that I can't believe it's even possible. But WD2 had some pretty dumb decisions, so I guess it isn't out of the realm of possibility. I do think it's the Maester, though. Wait, who is the Maester? I'm having trouble even remembering who that is atm.
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NESguerilla posted:Wait, who is the Maester? I'm having trouble even remembering who that is atm.
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Did most people really not stand up to Gryff and take the beating? I thought it was obvious that he was a coward acting big and wouldn't actually do anything. Not to mention being a submissive wuss in front of all your people is probably worse than if he actually did have the guts to make good of any of his threats. Especially since the Forresters are basically a really fancy mountain clan. Strength and honour are basically all important. Subterfuge and plots are for soft Southron summer children.
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Irish Joe posted:The little bird is the worst because he keeps showing up no matter how many times I leave him to die, blackmail him or tell him to gently caress off. I really think he's a Whitehill spy, setting you up for a massive fall, not working for Varys.
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CottonWolf posted:I really think he's a Whitehill spy, setting you up for a massive fall, not working for Varys. In the books I know that the Little Birds are supposed to be mute, but I don't know about the show.
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CottonWolf posted:I really think he's a Whitehill spy, setting you up for a massive fall, not working for Varys. The Whitehills don't come off as nearly that subtle or cunning. Damien was probably their man.
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