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My nose was a fountain of blood today. Let me re-read exact for a moment.
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Apr 3, 2015 03:03
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Murmur Twin posted:"Seemingly at random" would have been a better choice of words there. Obviously my and CPig's play styles are completely different - I am inherently distrustful of people who vote without explanation why they're doing so. ##vote wall monitor (...now would be a really good time for WM to pop in with an amazing case or two.... :shh:) Max posted:My nose was a fountain of blood today. Let me re-read exact for a moment. Jeez - feel better!
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Apr 3, 2015 05:11
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So MT (and anyone else) if we were in the position where there was another person with a vig, who do you think should be shot?
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Apr 3, 2015 05:41
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Votecount for Day 3  EXAKT Science (3): fiery_valkyrie, CapitalistPig, DuckHuntDog wall monitor (3): Byers2142, CapitalistPig, VivaNova (0): EXAKT Science, Byers2142 (0): Max, Not Voting (3): Max, VivaNova, wall monitorWith 9 alive, it's 5 votes to lynch. The current deadline is April 03rd, 2015 at 9 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 19 hours.
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Apr 3, 2015 06:59
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DuckHuntDog posted:Max has no interaction with ES that I can read at all. I could see both of them being scum and moving off Viva and on to Rarity to save ES. Of the two, I would rather: This is because he has flat out refused to engage me when I try to interact with him. Why am I the scummier one?
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Apr 3, 2015 07:06
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I'm pretty sure there's at least one scum on me right now. I'm surprised that WM isn't, tbh.
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Apr 3, 2015 07:13
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I think this is correct. ##vote CPig
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Apr 3, 2015 07:15
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fiery_valkyrie posted:So MT (and anyone else) if we were in the position where there was another person with a vig, who do you think should be shot? WM or CPig, though I wouldn't be the worst target either, for the sake of information. Assuming a three-person scumteam, we're currently at LYLO -2, so there can still be misses.
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Apr 3, 2015 07:20
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Murmur Twin posted:##vote wall monitor I suppose I should actually play this game I signed up for, huh? EXAKT is who I feel the most strongly about but doing more on him feels kinda  at this point.The other bit I find odd so far is the vig target. People were discussing Exakt/WM, which despite being one of the targets I thought made sense, but then all of a sudden we decide to shoot Propaganda Machine instead? Byers2142 posted:Shoot wall or EXAKT. Byers2142 posted:That's fair, I just don't think the vig should be held because people aren't posting about it. If Exakt flips scum I would consider that pretty strong evidence against Byers here for about-facing on the vig target when a different oppotunity presented itself.
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Apr 3, 2015 11:56
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DuckHuntDog posted:Max has no interaction with ES that I can read at all. I could see both of them being scum and moving off Viva and on to Rarity to save ES. Of the two, I would rather: This is the end of four posts from DHD, where he draws links between unflipped players to justify the vote. I do not like DHD's play this game, nor the logic he used to reach this vote. fiery_valkyrie posted:So MT (and anyone else) if we were in the position where there was another person with a vig, who do you think should be shot? wall. Shoot wall, and do it loving fast as deadline is approaching.
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Apr 3, 2015 13:02
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wall monitor posted:The other bit I find odd so far is the vig target. People were discussing Exakt/WM, which despite being one of the targets I thought made sense, but then all of a sudden we decide to shoot Propaganda Machine instead? If shooting lurkers is wrong, I don't wanna be right. 
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Apr 3, 2015 13:03
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Byers2142 posted:wall. Shoot wall, and do it loving fast as deadline is approaching. I would much rather you shoot Exakt and then use that flip to then make a decision about me.
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Apr 3, 2015 13:29
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wall monitor posted:I would much rather you shoot Exakt and then use that flip to then make a decision about me. I'm sure you would, yes.
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Apr 3, 2015 13:31
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WALL MONITORMax posted:B) I've never heard of a player procrastinating when they get a FOS on them, unless they are attempting to hide in the background and hope a more suspicious person comes forward, which is a scummy play more than it is a town play. wall monitor posted:That's my bad, I tend to procrastinate when people point FOS at me, since I get easily discouraged and such. It's a bad habit I probably should try to deal with. Everything about WM reads to me as newbie scum in over his head. What's funny is that he starts the game telling us that his trick to staying alive is to hide when people put pressure on him, and then he does just that. wall monitor posted:Opop's slip-up seems really suspicious, but gut is telling me to hold off a little bit. I dunno. The read I get from this is someone who realized his scumbro slipped but isn't sure whether to bus him or defend him. He doesn't want to vote Opop but doesn't really provide us with a good reason as to why. wall monitor posted:I still don't like firey valkyrie, my vote is standing for now After he voted for FV on what seemed like a joke, I pressed WM on his thought process and he essentially said he had voted for no reason. wall monitor posted:Doing reads on three random posters... wall monitor posted:EXAKT is who I feel the most strongly about but doing more on him feels kinda Actually, this is the post I find most suspicious. If EXAKT is the person he feels most strongly about, why not case him beyond "he seems desperate"? Why bring up the vig if you're not going to case Viva for how she used it? fiery_valkyrie posted:So MT (and anyone else) if we were in the position where there was another person with a vig, who do you think should be shot? I don't think the opinions that WM are sharing with us are genuine. He only really seems to share information when prodded, and then never tries to back them up or convince us that he's right, which screams "trying to fake content" to me. Of the people remaining the game he's the person I most think is scum and would shoot if I had a vig.
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Apr 3, 2015 15:09
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fiery_valkyrie posted:So MT (and anyone else) if we were in the position where there was another person with a vig, who do you think should be shot? EXAKT Science posted:This is because he has flat out refused to engage me when I try to interact with him. Why am I the scummier one? Is this true? EXAKT Science posted:I'm pretty sure there's at least one scum on me right now. I'm surprised that WM isn't, tbh. Does that make you think he might be town? wall monitor posted:I suppose I should actually play this game I signed up for, huh? I was figuring that there's votes on exakt and pmach and pig were probably out of the realm of possibility of cuddles, but not because of their merits. so once Byers and mt reinforced the rational for lurker vigs I decided to kill one of those two. then I reread Hal after dhd posted and thought there was a decent chance there. :/
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Apr 3, 2015 15:10
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Max posted:My nose was a fountain of blood today. Let me re-read exact for a moment. Christ. I was about to say I would be voting for exakt but that would put him at -1. But mt just brought up some good reads. Consider me undecided.
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Apr 3, 2015 15:27
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VivaNova posted:Exakt cause I regret not doing it. No, it makes me think he's scum who's concerned about his image. I would switch back to WM.
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Apr 3, 2015 16:02
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EXAKT Science posted:No, it makes me think he's scum who's concerned about his image. I would switch back to WM. Do I look like I'm concerned about my image?
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Apr 3, 2015 16:09
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wall monitor posted:Do I look like I'm concerned about my image? wall monitor posted:I have a hard time telling when jokephase ends and seriousphase begins I guess.
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Apr 3, 2015 16:20
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(On a non-game note - good luck with the house stuff! I've been in the position before - heck, I'm in it now - where I sign up for Mafia games and then real life comes in and makes it really hard to participate. All of my reads are strictly game-based  )
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Apr 3, 2015 16:23
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Hal was a fine vig, even if it didn't turn out. I'm conscious and have enough blood to think now. Exact, I haven't so much flat out refused to vote for you as I have unconciously just kinda ignored you this game. I don't know why I have, honestly. Again, I had an issue voting WM yesterday because the way things played out, it had looked like a serious push by Rarity-scum/Viva Scum to stop the Opop lynch from happening. Since Rarity's flip, this has proven to not be the case, which brings WM back to the realm of possibility as scum. As I had pointed out a while ago, the fact that he thinks having a FOS on him means he should fade into the background is not a good maneuver for town. I'm pulling a Ram here in saying that I'll be able to look at things now, but that's what I'm doing. I was out of commission yesterday and wasn't able to keep up with what was happening.
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Apr 3, 2015 16:57
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I feel really good about WM and can't guarantee that I will be here for deadline tonight, so if anyone has any good cases I would really like to hear their input. Failing that, my second-strongest read is CPig, but I will openly admit it's mostly because the last two games I've lost as town have been to him as scum (the last one having just ended) and I'm mildly on tilt at the moment.  Can someone who is more objective than me please explain to me why they think he's town?
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Apr 3, 2015 20:37
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Murmur Twin posted:I feel really good about WM and can't guarantee that I will be here for deadline tonight, so if anyone has any good cases I would really like to hear their input. Because his calls and votes, what there are of them, seem genuine and make sense.
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Apr 3, 2015 20:48
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wall monitor posted:I suppose I should actually play this game I signed up for, huh? Yes, you should! wall monitor posted:EXAKT is who I feel the most strongly about but doing more on him feels kinda I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt a bit here and make some suggestions. This post doesn't make you look good, even if it truly feels that way to you. Just re-read ES and make a decision, articulate why. Read the cases on him and tell us your thoughts on each point. There's not that many players left, go through and tell me your thoughts on us. Doing things like that might lead you to something else. How about responding to the points MT raised this morning?
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Apr 3, 2015 21:01
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Byers2142 posted:Because his calls and votes, what there are of them, seem genuine and make sense.  Byers2142 posted:nah, sorry, you were right with your call on wall, though. Him and Opop, scumbros. Why'd you stop thinking that? CapitalistPig posted:I forgot His vote on Wall was after you reminded him he was suspcious, and CapitalistPig posted:Im town is probably the best reason not to kill me id say his vote on EXAKT was right after FV posted a large case on him. In what crazy world do you get a town read from that?
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Apr 3, 2015 21:01
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Ha ^^ I'm gonna respond to that too.Byers2142 posted:Because his calls and votes, what there are of them, seem genuine and make sense. Ok... but that takes like minimal effort to fake. Don't forget the opop hammer too. I think that's one of the worst things he's done this game.
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Apr 3, 2015 21:04
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Murmur Twin posted:
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Apr 3, 2015 21:05
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CapitalistPig posted:Im not reading anything and am just randomly doing stuff is why. From the horse's mouth, my interpretation is wrong. Dunno, then, I find wall worse and we should lynch him.
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Apr 3, 2015 21:08
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CapitalistPig posted:Im not reading anything and am just randomly doing stuff is why.
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Apr 3, 2015 21:13
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CapitalistPig posted:Im not reading anything and am just randomly doing stuff is why. This has kinda been what I thought you were doing, and am strangely OK with it.
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Apr 3, 2015 21:13
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Max posted:This has kinda been what I thought you were doing, and am strangely OK with it. If he's serious I'm not ok with it at all but it seems dumb to switch to pig when there are legit good cases on wm and exakt.
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Apr 3, 2015 21:16
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VivaNova posted:are you not having fun? Actually thats the reason Im having fun.
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Apr 3, 2015 21:18
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I will wait for WM to return and respond to my prompting before voting. Yes, going out in an hour for dinner and drink with friends. Yes, will be checking in.
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Apr 3, 2015 21:19
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CapitalistPig posted:Actually thats the reason Im having fun. I SHOULD HAVE VIGGED YOU qq
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Apr 3, 2015 21:20
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VivaNova posted:If he's serious I'm not ok with it at all but it seems dumb to switch to pig when there are legit good cases on wm and exakt. It'd be a waste of time for tonight, yeah.
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Apr 3, 2015 21:21
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I'll be in and out, but ##wall monitor. I want to trust my feelings from Day 1, even if they were very, very wrong about Opop.
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Apr 3, 2015 21:22
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VivaNova posted:I SHOULD HAVE VIGGED YOU qq Honestly viva, when Im in games with you the most fun I have is your reactions to me playing badly.
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Apr 3, 2015 21:23
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Max posted:I'll be in and out, but ##wall monitor. I want to trust my feelings from Day 1, even if they were very, very wrong about Opop. thats not how you do that.
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EXAKT Science posted:Here's mine at the moment. Subject to change! Byers2142 posted:Scum can use them to develop cases on town players that other town are likely to follow to drive mislynches. At the same time, developing LumpenLists are easy and thus they're easy to fake. There was a game run by Lumpen to prove that LumpenLists were valuable; scum rolled town in it, perfect victory, by doing exactly what everyone's always told Lumpen scum would do with LumpenLists. What an interesting point! Byers2142 posted:Because his calls and votes, what there are of them, seem genuine and make sense. Byers2142 posted:From the horse's mouth, my interpretation is wrong. Dunno, then, I find wall worse and we should lynch him. What specifically do you find more suspicious about WM than CPig? Right now this looks a lot like scum covering for scum to me.
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