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SaltLick posted:Spur of the moment Big Bend trip for the long weekend has me pumped. I've been wanting to go hiking and camping with the girlfriend for a while now and it's going to be absolutely beautiful (high of 73) in west Texas before it gets miserably hot. Nice! Do you know where you'll be hiking?
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I've been thinking of picking up an Atmos AG 65 backpack for hikes this summer; the 46 liter pack I took on the JMT was barely adequate and I want something that can comfortably hold 6 or 7 days supplies if needed. This pack has been getting good reviews, partly due to the "anti-gravity" suspension system:Osprey posted:A continuous panel of lightweight mesh extends from the top of the backpanel to the hipbelt. The seamless structure contours automatically to the body, providing outstanding fit and unrestricted movement when wearing the pack. I wonder how durable something like this is? The mesh back has to remain taut for the suspension to work and if the mesh tears a little bit that seems like it could really screw things up. edit: What's the benefit of a separate sleeping bag compartment? A lot of bags have them, but since I only need my sleeping bag at the end of the day, why does it matter if it's more accessible? Vivian Darkbloom fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Apr 2, 2015 |
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:I've been thinking of picking up an Atmos AG 65 backpack for hikes this summer; the 46 liter pack I took on the JMT was barely adequate and I want something that can comfortably hold 6 or 7 days supplies if needed. This pack has been getting good reviews, partly due to the "anti-gravity" suspension system:
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Hungryjack posted:Nice! Do you know where you'll be hiking? I think we are going to try some of the quicker Chisos Mountain day hikes and the Santa Elena Canyon trail. There's a couple of mountain bike trails I want to hit so it definitely is a lot of running around.
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:I've been thinking of picking up an Atmos AG 65 backpack for hikes this summer; the 46 liter pack I took on the JMT was barely adequate and I want something that can comfortably hold 6 or 7 days supplies if needed. This pack has been getting good reviews, partly due to the "anti-gravity" suspension system: I own an Osprey Atmos 70, and the mesh on the backpanel is quite tough. I don't think mine is the Anti Gravity version as I believe that's a newer version, but they have probably used the same mesh in the AG, just with a better form-fitting shape (not that the old version was bad). Osprey bags are a nice combination of lightweight yet sturdy. If you need a bomb proof bag though, look at other brands. As for the bottom compartment, you can take the divider and webbing out if you want. In either case, you're not obliged to use it for your sleeping bag. It's just nice that you can get to the bottom of your bag through a zipper without needing to empty it from the top down.
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theroachman posted:I own an Osprey Atmos 70, and the mesh on the backpanel is quite tough. I don't think mine is the Anti Gravity version as I believe that's a newer version, but they have probably used the same mesh in the AG, just with a better form-fitting shape (not that the old version was bad). Osprey bags are a nice combination of lightweight yet sturdy. If you need a bomb proof bag though, look at other brands. If I remember correctly Osprey has one of the better reputations for customer service of all the outdoor companies though, if you damage your pack they will repair or replace it fairly easily.
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Saint Fu posted:I call this design the trampoline style and I personally really like it. Haven't tried that specific pack but I have used a Gregory Z55 and ZPacks ArcBlast. They help with back sweat and the way the internal/external stays are set up, usually it helps transfer load to the hips rather than the back/shoulders. They do tend to make the inside of the pack sort of weird shaped, however, more like a kidney bean. This can make getting things out of the bottoms more difficult without unloading the whole pack. I'd guess that's a benefit of a separate sleeping bag compartment on the bottom. Easy access. That and it could be a "clean" compartment, no food or dirty laundry to help keep bedding smells to a minimum. I don't think the separate compartment is necessary, just extra weight for the internal fabric and zippers but you have to pick your luxury features for yourself. I guess I'm a bit of a gram weenie but all of those extra zippers and compartments can really add up. For example, my Z55 weighs about 52 oz while the ArcBlast weighs 21.4. Granted the cuben fiber makes a huge difference in the weight but the ArcBlast also cuts out all unnecessary accessories, things I find I don't really miss when I'm hiking. Interesting. I am familiar with Hyperlite's Cuben fiber pack offerings, but i had never heard of Zpacks. That Cuben fiber is weird stuff. My Ultimate Direction running pack has a lot of it. I'm always scared I'm going to rip it or mess it up, but to its credit, it hasn't failed me at all. Anyway, I was about to buy a Hyperlite 55L for my wife, but now I need to do my homework on Zpacks.
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Verman posted:If I remember correctly Osprey has one of the better reputations for customer service of all the outdoor companies though, if you damage your pack they will repair or replace it fairly easily. They do free repairs for life, and replace if they can't repair it. As for the bottom zipper on the bags, as mentioned above you cab remove the shelf easily. I prefer to keep the shelf in and my fuel, food, and pot/cup/spoon down there. That way my spare layers are easily accessible at the top of the bag and my lunch and dinner are accessible from the bottom. That puts a lot of the heavy items against my lower back, much more comfortable than food + fuel at the top. I have a Talon 48 and I like it a lot. The long side pockets are pretty stupid, but overall it is a good pack.
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Did an overnight trip up to Cucamonga Peak a couple weeks ago. Finally got around to editing and posting the photos. Afternoon in Icehouse Canyon Hard climb up a snowy chute Night lights Morning light from Cucamonga Peak Good morning Mt Baldy First light on Cucamonga Peak Cucamonga Peak explorer Slushy trail Beautiful patterns Ontario, Bighorn, Baldy, Harwood, and Telegraph
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The purpose of the sleeping bag compartment is to let you load your bag more efficiently, by having the heavier things in the middle. You can have your food and cookware rest above the divider she you won't need them until after you've set up camp. And then your layers above that for easy access. Speleothing fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Apr 3, 2015 |
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Hungryjack posted:Interesting. I am familiar with Hyperlite's Cuben fiber pack offerings, but i had never heard of Zpacks. That Cuben fiber is weird stuff. My Ultimate Direction running pack has a lot of it. I'm always scared I'm going to rip it or mess it up, but to its credit, it hasn't failed me at all. Anyway, I was about to buy a Hyperlite 55L for my wife, but now I need to do my homework on Zpacks.
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# ? Apr 3, 2015 14:24 |
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On the other hand the ArcBlast isn't that much more expensive than a ULA pack and it's lighter (though likely more fragile if you're tough on your equipment). It's pricey but it isn't as crazy as the cost of their tents. People I talked to on the trail who had them also liked them a whole lot
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One more thing I forgot to mention is that if you're going to need a Bearikade Expedition (the biggest bear can) it won't fit in the standard ArcBlast because it ends up sitting on the mid-back horizontal stay (due to the bean shape of the pack). There isn't enough vertical space above the mid-back stay to get the top rolled closed with an Expedition in there. I had ZPacks add 2 inches to the top of mine and it was just enough to roll closed. You said you were looking for 6-7 days so if you're in bear country that might be a concern.
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Saint Fu posted:I've had nothing but good experiences with ZPacks but it is definitely pricey. As I mentioned, I love my ArcBlast and I also bought a used Hexamid Twin tent for the JMT and it worked out great. It's a little tight for 2 (basically one person has zero head room) but it's ridiculously light weight and the cuben fiber held up great. It's cheaper than the Hyperlite I was looking at, so it's got that going for it...
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I also considered an HMG Windrider 3400 but I like the trampoline style from previous packs so I went with ZPacks. Everyone seems to love both, however, so you probably can't go wrong either way.
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I'm going to head to REI tomorrow and check out their packs, can't quite bring myself to buy something so important online. Thanks for the feedback on the Atmos though. It seems like a solid choice but now I'm wondering if something lighter wouldn't be better than having all the bells and whistles.
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:I'm going to head to REI tomorrow and check out their packs, can't quite bring myself to buy something so important online. Thanks for the feedback on the Atmos though. It seems like a solid choice but now I'm wondering if something lighter wouldn't be better than having all the bells and whistles. The extra weight of one pack could mean better padding and increased comfort though so try things on with weight in them. They should have sand bags at the store to fill the pack with and give you a sense of what it feels like with weight in it. I'll take an extra pound on the pack if it makes carrying the weight more comfortable than something lighter.
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HarryPurvis posted:Did an overnight trip up to Cucamonga Peak a couple weeks ago. That's awesome. I've slept on Baldy and Bighorn, but those don't have the decent sized flat top and trees that Cucamonga has. I almost camped on Telegraph Peak too, but that's got about one couch of sleeping space with steep rolling nightmare death on all sides. Baldy is cool for the simultaneous LA/desert view, but a lot more likely to have other weird people show up in the middle of the night. Very sad how little snow is up there though.
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Alpenglow posted:That's awesome. I've slept on Baldy and Bighorn, but those don't have the decent sized flat top and trees that Cucamonga has. I almost camped on Telegraph Peak too, but that's got about one couch of sleeping space with steep rolling nightmare death on all sides. Baldy is cool for the simultaneous LA/desert view, but a lot more likely to have other weird people show up in the middle of the night. You should give Timber mountain a try. There is a huge flat area on the NE side of the summit with lots of room for dispersed camping. Totally agree with you about Baldy and weird people. Better option is to setup camp above the ledges of the Baldy bowl. There are some great flat spots down there. Better protection from the wild desert winds that like to whip through there too.
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Since there seems to be a decent LA-area population on this thread, I figure I can throw a question at you. My husband and I have been talking a lot about wishing we had an app that we could point at mountains to figure out their names (like when we're somewhere up on the Crest, mostly). I seriously doubt that exists. However, there must be some sort of visual of the different peaks of the San Gabriels, right? Any suggestions of a book or website or something with labelled pictures?
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erobadapazzi posted:Since there seems to be a decent LA-area population on this thread, I figure I can throw a question at you. My husband and I have been talking a lot about wishing we had an app that we could point at mountains to figure out their names (like when we're somewhere up on the Crest, mostly). I seriously doubt that exists. However, there must be some sort of visual of the different peaks of the San Gabriels, right? Any suggestions of a book or website or something with labelled pictures? There are a few apps that do exactly this. Personally I've had the best luck with PeakFinder, but I'm sure others can weigh in on their favorites.
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I'm gonna try to see if I can pull off the JMT with only a day pack. Doable?
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What do you consider a day pack?
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Does anyone have any recommendations on hiking boots/trail runners that look normal enough for everyday business casual wear? I really love my La Sportiva trail runners and want to wear them in the office but they look like I dipped my feet in orange gak and I just cant get away wearing them in the office. I've had a pair of Merrel Moabs back in the day that might just be normal looking enough but I really wanted to go with something a bit lighter.
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# ? Apr 4, 2015 18:08 |
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Saint Fu posted:What do you consider a day pack? Just a north face backpack, has hip straps too but wanting to go light as possible, gonna try it out on a weekend trip to see if I can pull it off. Sacrifices will have to be made.
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What's your resupply schedule and how fast do you plan on getting from MTR to Whitney Portal?
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# ? Apr 4, 2015 18:24 |
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Also needs to fit a bear can unless you very carefully plan your route. One is required in Yosemite and many other areas along the route though I've heard of people managing to only camp in areas that you can get away without having one. I suspect in Yosemite you'd have to camp in areas that have bear boxes and it requires pulling long days sometimes and you'd still risk a fine if a Ranger caught up with you even if you told them you weren't camping in a bear can required area. e: the big thing in my mind would be if you have a sleeping system that would fit in it and could you carry the food you need to carry. It gets down to freezing at night in the summer and massive thunderstorms are perhaps uncommon on a day to day basis but really not surprising to happen over a week type of basis. Getting caught in a bad thunderstorm at night with the temps plummeting and not having sufficient shelter would be a bad situation Levitate fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Apr 4, 2015 |
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TerminalSaint posted:There are a few apps that do exactly this. Personally I've had the best luck with PeakFinder, but I'm sure others can weigh in on their favorites. This is great! Thanks so much. We just downloaded it, and I've already learned some new peak names and locations without even leaving my bedroom! Before I could only identify Wilson and Baldy.
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Somewhat random question...I assume some people here read backpacking blogs or websites or magazines, do you have things you wish they'd write about that no one seems to do? Everyone loves doing gear reviews or trip reports and stuff like that, just wondering what people would find interesting that they don't see a lot of. I'm basically looking for some writing practice and ideas to think about, I don't have any kind of blog that makes money or anything like that, I just want to write about things for practice and my own interest and am thinking up ideas.
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Is there a daypack (maybe 25-35 liters) that has a separate compartment for the hydration bladder (in case spillage occurs) and has a pretty comfy suspension system in the vein of the Osprey's and Gregory's? The Camelbak Highwire 25 does this almost perfectly (plenty of space for clothes, bladder fits like a glove on its own compartment even when full) but the pack being close to my back and the substandard straps that dig on my shoulders leaves much to be desired.
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Levitate posted:Somewhat random question...I assume some people here read backpacking blogs or websites or magazines, do you have things you wish they'd write about that no one seems to do? Everyone loves doing gear reviews or trip reports and stuff like that, just wondering what people would find interesting that they don't see a lot of. http://www.outsideonline.com/192631...ing-go?page=all
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Disharmony posted:Is there a daypack (maybe 25-35 liters) that has a separate compartment for the hydration bladder (in case spillage occurs) and has a pretty comfy suspension system in the vein of the Osprey's and Gregory's? Try the Osprey Talon series. You can slide the bladder in between the pack and the mesh suspension system. Actually, I think you can do that with most Osprey packs.
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Stupid quick question about backpacking permits- When applying for a backpacking permit, do I need all my group members to apply for a permit? Or do I just send in one application listing my total group size?
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TerminalSaint posted:There are a few apps that do exactly this. Personally I've had the best luck with PeakFinder, but I'm sure others can weigh in on their favorites.
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lollybo posted:Stupid quick question about backpacking permits- When applying for a backpacking permit, do I need all my group members to apply for a permit? Or do I just send in one application listing my total group size? Usually it's one permit for a group and you only need to have the group leaders information on it while listing how many people are in the group
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AceRimmer posted:Something like this article maybe? What a great read!
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Hiked deep off the beaten path in the Cuyahoga Valley National Park today. Ran into bees*, sort-of-quicksand, brambles, more quicksand, and did I mention brambles? I think I am sort of getting trench foot too. Yikes. * the bees were in an apiary I stumbled across. They were active so I moved away very quickly.
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Three-Phase posted:Hiked deep off the beaten path in the Cuyahoga Valley National Park today. Ran into bees*, sort-of-quicksand, brambles, more quicksand, and did I mention brambles? That sounds like an awesome outing, no irony. But then, lately I've been feeling a delusional longing for the Midwest, and CVNP is one of my recent daydream destinations.
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I went to buy a hammock and there clearly has been a huge advancement in hammock technology sense I last bought one. The price range seems to be like $20 to $200. I just want something simple, rugged, able to support my fat (~220) rear end, and has a simple ring at each end. I will mostly be using it at work in the back of trucks and containers so I don't need any bug netting or what have you. Can anyone recommend one?
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Time Cowboy posted:That sounds like an awesome outing, no irony. I still don't get how a national park was created in Ohio in 2000.
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