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fatherdog posted:If you liked Saku in Pride, I can't honestly recommend many of his post-Pride performances. He was injured and old and kept going long past the point where he should have stopped. there's kiiiind of the Zelg Galesic fight and absolutely nothing else
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I don't really want anyone to watch Sakuraba/Zaromskis because I'm not an inhuman monster but I cannot help feeling there's no better encapsulation of the death spiral of MMA in Japan than an aging hero far past his prime being assaulted until parts of his body fall off
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Yeah sakuraba's career goes from heroic to tragic pretty badly toward the end.
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Well then. Thanks!
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Was he as good as I thought he was early on? What happened, there? He went from some really impressive performances to being, well, old and hurt. Not really his fault, but I hate to see fighters end up like that. Really glad he's able to do the wrestling thing, at least. I'd be fine if he never did another grappling tournament, but I am still glad he's able to do that kind of thing, too, even if it's not to his capability. I still remember how damned cool it was watching him pass guard with a cartwheel one time. Or watching him soccer kick the poo poo out of some legs when he didn't want a grappler on the ground for a while. I seem to remember that being around the first time folks thought to really do that, just make 'em stand up and punish them for refusing to do so. It sucks to see a creative, clever fighter end up old, but it happens to everyone sooner or later I guess.
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He was one of the best fighters in the world in his prime, but then a new generation of better fighters showed up and took absurd amounts of famage.
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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fatherdog posted:B) him being a functional alcoholic and heavy smoker. What adult male in Japan isn't?
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fatherdog posted:Sakuraba was a freak talent; he became a grappling genius training largely with scrubs and was able to come up with great gameplans both going into a match and on the fly in the ring. But he got started in mma comparatively late in life, with a ton of wear-and-tear on his body from pro-wrestling, which wasn't helped by A) PRIDE constantly tossing him in against much larger fighters to fit their classic "Underdog outmatched Japanese wins through GRIT and BURNING SPIRIT" and B) him being a functional alcoholic and heavy smoker. Plus he couldnt strike like at all
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Bundt Cake posted:Plus he couldnt strike like at all How dare you demean the double Mongolian chop
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Bundt Cake posted:Plus he couldnt strike like at all Except against Vitor.
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Bundt Cake posted:Plus he couldnt strike like at all Well, he kicked Royce's leg out of his leg.
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Memento posted:Well, he kicked Royce's leg out of his leg. I'm glad I'm not the only one still using that phrase 
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Anime Reference posted:What adult male in Japan isn't? Nobutatsu Suzuki. 
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I have a confession to make about my burgeoning interest in MMA around 2003. Me and a bunch of friends were watching a match that I can't recall if it was in an octagon or ring but it was two asian guys fightings. We had the fights DVRed, which was still pretty cutting edge at the time. One of the fighters was in an Orange speedo type trunks and started wailing on his opponent. All my friends and I freaked out and then paused the fight because we thought the announcer (could have been Mauro Ranallo (douche bad with a centimeter pole he talked about, I forget how to spell his name) or Rogan said something really racist and died laughing. We thought, as the asian orange speedo trunks guy was tee'ing off on his opponent, the announcer yelled, "HE IS THROWING BIG RICE!" After rewinding the DVRed recorded a bunch and we figured out he said, "HE IS THROWING BIG RIGHTS!" (right hands) Any idea what this fight in that time frame could of been? My friends always wanted to know which fight it was because, "Throwing big rice" became kind of a joke amongst us for when you put a beat down on someone.
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Captain Log posted:I have a confession to make about my burgeoning interest in MMA around 2003. Me and a bunch of friends were watching a match that I can't recall if it was in an octagon or ring but it was two asian guys fightings. We had the fights DVRed, which was still pretty cutting edge at the time. One of the fighters was in an Orange speedo type trunks and started wailing on his opponent. All my friends and I freaked out and then paused the fight because we thought the announcer (could have been Mauro Ranallo (douche bad with a centimeter pole he talked about, I forget how to spell his name) or Rogan said something really racist and died laughing. Sounds like Kazushi Sakuraba. That should narrow down your search terms. I can't any matches of his where he actually threw good punches though.
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Memento posted:Sounds like Kazushi Sakuraba. That should narrow down your search terms. I can't any matches of his where he actually threw good punches though. Possibly the guy with the orange speedo trunks was getting his rear end beat as well. Were the orange speedo trunks a Sakuraba thing? My friends would poo poo if I found that fight.
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Captain Log posted:I have a confession to make about my burgeoning interest in MMA around 2003. Me and a bunch of friends were watching a match that I can't recall if it was in an octagon or ring but it was two asian guys fightings. We had the fights DVRed, which was still pretty cutting edge at the time. One of the fighters was in an Orange speedo type trunks and started wailing on his opponent. All my friends and I freaked out and then paused the fight because we thought the announcer (could have been Mauro Ranallo (douche bad with a centimeter pole he talked about, I forget how to spell his name) or Rogan said something really racist and died laughing. mnowa v baroni
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Bundt Cake posted:mnowa v baroni Oh God this could be it. Now to search for an unedited broadcast version and listen to the commentary. Bundt, you may be a God amongst men.
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Is there a fight funnier than Jon Hess talking up his SAFTA mastery and complete knowledge of combat and then throwing eye gouges and ridiculous baby hammerfists? I know somewhere out there there is a bigger, even more baby-esque goof than Hess. What is the funniest fight you know of? Kimbo and Alexander politely agreeing to just wheeze at each other after the first round would also have to be up there.
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projecthalaxy posted:Is there a fight funnier than Jon Hess talking up his SAFTA mastery and complete knowledge of combat and then throwing eye gouges and ridiculous baby hammerfists? I know somewhere out there there is a bigger, even more baby-esque goof than Hess. What is the funniest fight you know of? Kimbo and Alexander politely agreeing to just wheeze at each other after the first round would also have to be up there. moti horenstein vs mark coleman moti horenstein vs mark kerr
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david carmichael posted:moti horenstein vs mark coleman He teaches krav maga in New York
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Gregor Samsa posted:He teaches krav maga in New York he also held the world record for the most baseball bats snapped with kicks in 60 seconds until K-1 ref Nobuaki Kakuda took it from him projecthalaxy posted:Is there a fight funnier than Jon Hess talking up his SAFTA mastery and complete knowledge of combat and then throwing eye gouges and ridiculous baby hammerfists? I know somewhere out there there is a bigger, even more baby-esque goof than Hess. What is the funniest fight you know of? Kimbo and Alexander politely agreeing to just wheeze at each other after the first round would also have to be up there. I feel like the Jon Hess story is incomplete unless you include him getting beaten to death by Vitor and then Andy Anderson posting "SAFTA stands for Stick A loving Thumb Anywhere" on the ug many years after the fact I can't think of any whole fights that are funny off the top of my head (maybe Fabio Maldonado getting the world's longest bodyshot TKO on James McSweeney?), but the following moments will stay with me always: "hello japan" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNs-hQmeKa8 any and every time Aoki's gotten KO'd, and the time George Sotiropolous kicked him in the balls on purpose   this whole fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I61SLvUNo34&t=210s a long awaited Shooto title fight (that managed to get made even though Pride was on the scene, both guys were fighting for them, and offering infinitely bigger paydays) ending immediately https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CKbxvSkmjw&t=70s  Minowa KOing Sokoudjou and hip tossing Zulu And then there's stuff like Bob Sapp getting set up to lose to a literal cartoon character and knocking him out instead, but that seems too easy
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Aoki vs Nagashima is hilarious. oh man I forgot that, that's definitely the top answer
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Triticum Guzzler posted:oh man I forgot that, that's definitely the top answer LeftistMuslimObama posted:Aoki vs Nagashima is hilarious. I just watched this, having forgotten all about it. In addition to all the other amazingness, one of Aoki's corners is wearing a WWII style army helmet because ??? But yeah Aoki getting flash kneed by a cosplayer is at least as hilarious as the World's Largest Baby. 1st AD posted:That TKD guy fighting Travis Fulton That's more soul-crushingly tragic really. That dude didn't need to die so Fulton could go 401-0 or whatever.
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If we're just doing Moments then And where's that gif of those two guys on a UFC prelim, where they are both on their backs throwing just the worst punches ever at each other?
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I think it was the first TUF Brazil finale (an actual PPV), and both guys were punching each other from 50/50 guard
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Chexoid posted:If we're just doing Moments then did the guy in black here die
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1st AD posted:I think it was the first TUF Brazil finale (an actual PPV), and both guys were punching each other from 50/50 guard http://giant.gfycat.com/AggressiveFlickeringButterfly.gif
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Nate Diaz v Ben Henderson was pretty funny, if for nothing else at one point Nate Diaz chooses to counter Bendo by flipping him off.
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david carmichael posted:kongo/yvel with the black and white and french music I'm so mad this appears to no longer be on the internet anywhere Also Herring/Kongo is a pretty funny fight
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Nothing tops Andy Anderson vs Jon Hess for me. A chubby pumpkin-headed midget with a ginger pedo moustache (billed as 86-0 in bare knuckle underground challenge matches with all wins by KO) and an unathletic 300lb man flailing at each other like toddlers for 90 seconds.
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Pocket Billiards posted:Nothing tops Andy Anderson vs Jon Hess for me. Didn't Houston Alexander claim to have 250+ amateur wins in backyard fights? I just remember from some pre-fight hype video Dana said he was super-dangerous despite being 0-0 professionally because he had a ton of knockouts in underground promotions.
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Watching this live was amazing.  I'll never forget what Dunc said, which was something like, "This isn't a knock out. This is a picture of Keith Jardine fighting a man."
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