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live free or dont
Apr 13, 2012

drkeiscool posted:

To be fair, the Jupiter Plant (the outside) always struck me as being far too barren in vanilla CoP. Some mercs and dogs, and I think a psydog, maybe?

To be fair again, I've never played Misery, so maybe somewhere in the middle ground would be cool.

It's otherwise OK when I can fight back, but the ones inside the building do the spooky and kill me outside through walls before I can even get close. I'm fine with two pseudogiants at the same time, because they make me use tactics and poo poo.

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NO FUCK YOU DAD
Oct 23, 2008

drkeiscool posted:

To be fair, the Jupiter Plant (the outside) always struck me as being far too barren in vanilla CoP. Some mercs and dogs, and I think a psydog, maybe?

To be fair again, I've never played Misery, so maybe somewhere in the middle ground would be cool.
I thought the vanilla Jupiter plant was a nice return to SoC-type loneliness in CoP's overpopulated maps; a hulking empty nothing just itching to get you turned around and trapped in a blowout.

It's one of very few places in CoP where you feel truly alone. Every other major building was either a hub or a set piece and it really took away from the game's creep factor.

LordLeckie
Nov 14, 2009

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

I thought the vanilla Jupiter plant was a nice return to SoC-type loneliness in CoP's overpopulated maps; a hulking empty nothing just itching to get you turned around and trapped in a blowout.

It's one of very few places in CoP where you feel truly alone. Every other major building was either a hub or a set piece and it really took away from the game's creep factor.

Yeah Jupiter in the original CoP is probably my favourite location along with the vines in Pripyat for that exact reason. I only wish it was a little harder to navigate anomaly wise with more indoor traps and a sort of jungle gym approach to getting around, like the sarcophagus in SoC but with more than just the teleports.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
The Jupiter Plant is very much like the Shalebridge Cradle: An incredibly foreboding place that has a really creepy atmosphere but there's nothing really there, just paranoia and rumours

Dvsilverwing
Jan 17, 2009

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

I thought the vanilla Jupiter plant was a nice return to SoC-type loneliness in CoP's overpopulated maps; a hulking empty nothing just itching to get you turned around and trapped in a blowout.

It's one of very few places in CoP where you feel truly alone. Every other major building was either a hub or a set piece and it really took away from the game's creep factor.

Maybe it's just me, but I always enjoyed being in these "empty" places and suddenly spotting a few stalkers or bandits sitting around a campfire or something like that. I guess I enjoy the idea of the Zone being a little more populated than it realistically would or should be. Running long stretches and not seeing any human AI has always seemed a little boring to me I suppose.

LordLeckie
Nov 14, 2009

Dvsilverwing posted:

Maybe it's just me, but I always enjoyed being in these "empty" places and suddenly spotting a few stalkers or bandits sitting around a campfire or something like that. I guess I enjoy the idea of the Zone being a little more populated than it realistically would or should be. Running long stretches and not seeing any human AI has always seemed a little boring to me I suppose.

I think it comes down to most of the gameplay mechanics come down to interactions with the AI in various ways so with no AI you only have the zone, and while the zone is always this omnipresent threat its also one of the most trivial unless you heavily mod the game so you actually fear radiation and anomalies. Exploring is fun but especially in CoP there can be very little to see and its almost themepark style design concentrates most interesting stuff in small clumps.

NO FUCK YOU DAD
Oct 23, 2008
The Zone is only trivial in Call of Pripyat because you're almost never out of sight of a main hub. If you run into trouble in Yanov or Zaton, outside of a handful of locations like the Factory, you're at most a five-minute jog from the station or the Skadovsk and, provided you stuck to the roads, only very rarely would there be anything even remotely dangerous between you and safety. Outside of blowouts, any sort of real danger was heavily telegraphed and usually limited to pre-defined areas and missions.

In Shadow of Chernobyl, it was very easy to get yourself cut off from safety. Yantar and the Red Forest had two of the most hostile areas in the game between them and safety, and even places like the Garbage and Dark Valley were big enough and remote enough that a single randomly-spawned pack of dogs could be the difference between making it back to Sidorovich and bleeding out before you reach the Cordon.

OhGreatAGinger
Oct 10, 2012
Ugh, so I hope I'm not making GBS threads up the thread too much by constant bug reporting but... I've got another CTD in Countryside (Lost Alpha, Ddraig's mod patched) while approaching the old church to find the guy that knows another entrance to X16.

Checked the log this time and found this at the bottom:

FATAL ERROR

[error]Expression : fatal error
[error]Function : CModelPool::Instance_Load
[error]File : ..\xrRender\ModelPool.cpp
[error]Line : 117
[error]Description : <no expression>
[error]Arguments : Can't find model file 'actors\unic\stalker_drunk.ogf'.

Also I might add since I assume it's a Ddraig added item, the CYSTA Exosuit has no textures when being worn(in 3rd person view).

Also, I love you.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
Forgot to the include the model file/textures. I've got a quick fix for that.

I'm not sure which exoskeleton you're talking about as I can't remember what the hell I added for the most part :v:

I'll be able to get the correct texture and add that to the fix too if I know which one it is.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
Here you go buddy:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/eqjix7hiq68db5u/gamedata.7z

Should fix the crash and add a nice new texture to your scientist's exo.

I love you too :glomp:

Rush Limbo fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Apr 11, 2015

OhGreatAGinger
Oct 10, 2012

Ddraig posted:

Here you go buddy:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/eqjix7hiq68db5u/gamedata.7z

Should fix the crash and add a nice new texture to your scientist's exo.

I love you too :glomp:

Aww, you're my everyday valentine!

Swartz
Jul 28, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Xray engine 2.0 got leaked online (can't give source...or can I?)
It was meant for Stalker 2 before it got cancelled.

You can tell it got cancelled early in the development process as the code for the new engine is only partly there (however is much tidier than Xray 1.6).

From what I can tell they were developing it for Xbox360, PS3, and PC (DX-11 only it looks like).

Unfortunately nothing worth salvaging to extend Xray 1.6 from it.

OhGreatAGinger
Oct 10, 2012
So... got another one! Happens about two seconds after loading into X16 every time.

FATAL ERROR

[error]Expression : fatal error
[error]Function : CInifile::r_section
[error]File : Xr_ini.cpp
[error]Line : 499
[error]Description : <no expression>
[error]Arguments : Can't open section 'bolt_anim_sci(det_artefact_none)'

File doesn't look familiar though, could this be a vanilla bug?

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
http://www.mediafire.com/download/dtdsmxipqypulrn/config.7z

This should fix it. Its thanks to the custom artefact detectors.

Lacedaemonius
Jan 18, 2015

Rub a dub dub

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

The Zone is only trivial in Call of Pripyat because you're almost never out of sight of a main hub. If you run into trouble in Yanov or Zaton, outside of a handful of locations like the Factory, you're at most a five-minute jog from the station or the Skadovsk and, provided you stuck to the roads, only very rarely would there be anything even remotely dangerous between you and safety. Outside of blowouts, any sort of real danger was heavily telegraphed and usually limited to pre-defined areas and missions.

In Shadow of Chernobyl, it was very easy to get yourself cut off from safety. Yantar and the Red Forest had two of the most hostile areas in the game between them and safety, and even places like the Garbage and Dark Valley were big enough and remote enough that a single randomly-spawned pack of dogs could be the difference between making it back to Sidorovich and bleeding out before you reach the Cordon.

You're absolutely right, but I think the issue isn't the inhabitants of the zone, but the zone itself. Removing the scattered smaller anomalies from SoC was a poor choice because you can sprint everywhere with no drawback, and since the economy in vanilla is so easy you'll almost never find yourself artifact hunting. STALKERs are supposed to be slav '49ers, but outside of Les Miserables I can count on one hand the number of times I got caught in an anomaly when a blowout started. I don't mind a desolate zone (it's my favorite part of CoP), but the world itself either isn't dangerous enough, or doesn't force you into the dangerous parts enough to feel like you're ever in any real danger.

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
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OF YOU!


Has Misery gotten any better since launch? I liked the concept of it but the balancing was really unfun to actually play.

Literal Nazi Furry
Jan 27, 2008

Swastika - Helvetica - Ikea
Last night I dreamt of Adolf searching for Anne.
I lay on my back
standing alone in the corner watching the girls dance.

I'm on crystal meth.
I piss in my pants.

ShadowMar posted:

Has Misery gotten any better since launch? I liked the concept of it but the balancing was really unfun to actually play.

worse unless you use additional mods

Arghy
Nov 15, 2012

Ddraig posted:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/dtdsmxipqypulrn/config.7z

This should fix it. Its thanks to the custom artefact detectors.

Is there a link to your mod? gonna give LA a play through first but for my 2nd play through i wanna do your mod.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
Sure thing:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/akm0dh5ktxvhjyl/Tourist&#39;s_Delight_(LA).7z

http://www.mediafire.com/download/44c9m98f8veloz7/Hotfix.7z

http://www.mediafire.com/download/eqjix7hiq68db5u/gamedata.7z

http://www.mediafire.com/download/dtdsmxipqypulrn/config.7z

Install the various elements in the order they're linked (main file, hotfix, 'gamedata', 'config')

If you run across any huge gamebreaking bugs I'll do my best to fix them, but I'm not really actively working on this at the moment as I'm focused on Radium.

I probably won't revisit this until after the Developer's Cut is released because it's sort of apparent a lot of the engine stuff in LA is wonky, to the point where some basic elements just flat out don't work (such as setting weather effects)

Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what this thing is, and I don't care. I'm just tired of seeing your stupid newbie av from 2011.
Played Survarium a bit today and yesterday, its actually pretty fun. Love the aesthetics, gunplay is good, sound is phenomenal.

frank.club
Jan 15, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Endymion FRS MK1 posted:

Played Survarium a bit today and yesterday, its actually pretty fun. Love the aesthetics, gunplay is good, sound is phenomenal.

The new update they detailed seems really cool too. Roaming murderous anomalies

Sulman
Apr 29, 2003

What did you do that for?

Literal Nazi Furry posted:

worse unless you use additional mods

They didn't help themselves by turtling on the design decision, either. It's badly balanced, period. I wish they'd loving fix it rather than pretending it's some sort of masterstroke.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
So those of you who don't know, I'm now on the Radium team.

I've decided to take the Zone in a different direction, that being the foremost mutated poultry simulator on the market.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYnsEcowjfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViVxJpMPUCg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeOwayT_MpE

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms

Ddraig posted:


I've decided to take the Zone in a different direction, that being the foremost mutated poultry simulator on the market.


Yes, that does seem like the only logical next step to take.

Lacedaemonius
Jan 18, 2015

Rub a dub dub

Ddraig posted:

So those of you who don't know, I'm now on the Radium team.

I've decided to take the Zone in a different direction, that being the foremost mutated poultry simulator on the market.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYnsEcowjfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViVxJpMPUCg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeOwayT_MpE

Seems a bit late for April Fools

Missing Name
Jan 5, 2013


Am I alone for thinking that a version of LA without the story would be great? Less Illuminati, more "gently caress, let's go wander east for a good while and see what there is." More of a free roam thing, without having to beat the game first.

This is also why I still haven't finished Fallout 3. I just keep getting distracted by new poo poo.

baromodo
Nov 14, 2012

Missing Name posted:

Am I alone for thinking that a version of LA without the story would be great? Less Illuminati, more "gently caress, let's go wander east for a good while and see what there is." More of a free roam thing, without having to beat the game first.

Nope, not alone. I started playing LA, excited at the potential for fresh experiences, saw the opening cutscene and started to get worried. It went downhill from there. I couldn't stomach it for very long, the whole draw with Stalker for me is immersion and LA shits all over it with its amateurish and cringeworthy presentation.

Naky
May 30, 2001

Resident Crackhead
Isn't that basically what Call of Chernobyl is aiming to do? Stringing the maps from all the games together for a massive free roam experience minus all the plot?

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Naky posted:

Isn't that basically what Call of Chernobyl is aiming to do? Stringing the maps from all the games together for a massive free roam experience minus all the plot?

God I hope so, because that sounds amazing.

tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

Naky posted:

Isn't that basically what Call of Chernobyl is aiming to do? Stringing the maps from all the games together for a massive free roam experience minus all the plot?

Won't there be a clash of, say, Shoc Garbage and CS Garbage? Which would they use? Be nice to see the CS Red Forest in another game, though.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
Call of Chernobyl is going to be sweet. Probably just as sweet, if not more so, than the new OGSE version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEEcCWgpS4c

Stalkers keep running away from the guns and I don't know why. Probably going to change that Flash effect too, or at least the sound.

OhGreatAGinger
Oct 10, 2012
Another crash(Lost Alpha, Ddraigs mod) it seems is caused by controllers, and only when they detect/try to attack me. In other words, if I see them and they can't see me, everything is fine and I kill them from afar no problem. If they see me and begin to engage me however, the game crashes without generating an error report, it also doesn't seem to say anything about it in the logs either. Most notably this has occured in x16 when you have to shut off the giant brain, and Radar after finding Nomad's shack.

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


Are there any cool recent big mods for SHOC/COP besides LA? I built a new computer and I haven't touched stalker in a long time, looking to play through it again, hopefully with some fresh mods.

Literal Nazi Furry
Jan 27, 2008

Swastika - Helvetica - Ikea
Last night I dreamt of Adolf searching for Anne.
I lay on my back
standing alone in the corner watching the girls dance.

I'm on crystal meth.
I piss in my pants.

Taffer posted:

Are there any cool recent big mods for SHOC/COP besides LA? I built a new computer and I haven't touched stalker in a long time, looking to play through it again, hopefully with some fresh mods.

some neat newer mods I'd recommend giving a shot are shoker weapon mod for CoP and autumn aurora 2 for SHoC
http://www.moddb.com/mods/shoker-weapon-mod
http://www.moddb.com/mods/autumn-aurora-compilation-mod

drkeiscool
Aug 1, 2014
Soiled Meat
Has anyone remade Fallout in the X-ray engine? Seems like it would be a perfect fit.

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

Literal Nazi Furry posted:

some neat newer mods I'd recommend giving a shot are shoker weapon mod for CoP and autumn aurora 2 for SHoC
http://www.moddb.com/mods/shoker-weapon-mod
http://www.moddb.com/mods/autumn-aurora-compilation-mod

heads up on autumn aurora 2, if you take to many missions the game will crash when you save.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

drkeiscool posted:

Has anyone remade Fallout in the X-ray engine? Seems like it would be a perfect fit.

There's always been a pipedreamy interest in it but, no, that hasn't happened. If it had happened, the whole world would have known about it and we'd all be playing it right now. Probably seems unlikely to happen, though, given the incredible amount of work that would be required.

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


Literal Nazi Furry posted:

some neat newer mods I'd recommend giving a shot are shoker weapon mod for CoP and autumn aurora 2 for SHoC
http://www.moddb.com/mods/shoker-weapon-mod
http://www.moddb.com/mods/autumn-aurora-compilation-mod

Thanks. AA looks neat, I'll give that one a try.

live free or dont
Apr 13, 2012
What about Clear Sky? Had my fair share of CoP and ShoC for now and want to try Clear Sky. I played it vanilla a long long time ago and was kind of disappointed, but I wonder if there are any mods to make it better?

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Thompsons
Aug 28, 2008

Ask me about onklunk extraction.

Literal Nazi Furry posted:

some neat newer mods I'd recommend giving a shot are shoker weapon mod for CoP and autumn aurora 2 for SHoC
http://www.moddb.com/mods/shoker-weapon-mod
http://www.moddb.com/mods/autumn-aurora-compilation-mod

Is there no English installer for Shoker?

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