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tsob posted:Don't worry, Titus Werewolf was there to save them while Daredevil was off wasting his time with crimelords and ninjas. I'm hoping we'll see Fat Cobra in the Iron Fist series. He was a hoot in the comics.
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LadyPictureShow posted:I'm hoping we'll see Fat Cobra in the Iron Fist series. He was a hoot in the comics. I really, really hope they do the Fraction run for the series.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:14
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It would be really terrible if they didn't because previous to Fraction Iron Fist was not that interesting of a character , and Fraction really turned the whole character around and added a shitload of Mythology. I really hope we get Alias Luke Cage and not Brian Azzerello Luke Cage. Also, Jeph Loeb is apparently a writer or at least had input on this, but how the gently caress that happened I dunno.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:16
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LadyPictureShow posted:I'm hoping we'll see Fat Cobra in the Iron Fist series. He was a hoot in the comics. Almost all the champions were great. Bride of Nine Spiders, Amon, even Davos was good. I just love the names they have too. I'm looking forward to seeing Luke and Danny bro'ing it up on screen too. Hopefully they get the fun of that down within both the Luke Cage and Iron-Fist shows.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:20
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Hollismason posted:Here's just some points There's a great scene in maybe episode 8 where they're slowly panning up silk sheets... I thought it was going to be Matt, 'cause we just had the discussion with him and Stick about how he sleeps in silk sheets. But, nope, it's Fisk. They both sleep in silk sheets, kinda funny.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:21
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Hollismason posted:There's also a counterpoint to that with Matt , where it is suggested to him by stick to try Meditation and where Matt tries to meditate and fails. Like Matt even mentions he meditates to heal quicker. One of the strengths of the conflict is that yea they basically are the same dude. Fisk's hosed up abused child view of his dad is entirely why he's who he is and Matt's hosed up child like idealization of his dad is why he's who he is. They say the same things, they have the same goals, they DO the same things, but just the small differences make them entirely different people. Best of all there's no corny "YOU AND I ARE LIKE BROTHERS AREN'T WE" moment because they hardly ever directly interact. They don't know about each other, we the viewer get it but of course Fisk doesn't give a poo poo about who Matt's dad was, Matt doesn't give a poo poo that Fisk genuinely thinks he's fixing thing. It's like the priest says, Satan doesn't mean one specific dude, it's just 'the adversary', that's what they both are to eachother, their adversaries.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:21
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Luke Cage has got to be in the rest of the shows right? And Danny has to be in the Luke Cage show, along with Jessica Jones. I feel like the latter three series are going to be interconnected, it'll be cool to see if they do some Daredevil appearancesTatum Girlparts posted:Best of all there's no corny "YOU AND I ARE LIKE BROTHERS AREN'T WE" moment because they hardly ever directly interact. They don't know about each other, we the viewer get it but of course Fisk doesn't give a poo poo about who Matt's dad was, Matt doesn't give a poo poo that Fisk genuinely thinks he's fixing thing. It's like the priest says, Satan doesn't mean one specific dude, it's just 'the adversary', that's what they both are to eachother, their adversaries. No there is. Fisk tells Matt they are very alike over the radio when Matt is trapped in that building with Vladimir. The reason it rose above that cliche is that one of the main themes is how similar Matt and Fisk are.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:22
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zoux posted:Luke Cage has got to be in the rest of the shows right? And Danny has to be in the Luke Cage show, along with Jessica Jones. I feel like the latter three series are going to be interconnected, it'll be cool to see if they do some Daredevil appearances Daredevil does hire Jessica as a bodyguard
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Yeah I just liked that they weren't to heavy handied, the one thing I would have liked is a scene with a younger Fisk and a younger Wesley becoming friends similar to Matt and Foggy. Oh here are some other stuff: Fisk lies to Wesley about speaking Japanese Matt lies to Foggy about being able to "see" I'll write it all down when I do a rewatch of it.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:26
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zoux posted:Luke Cage has got to be in the rest of the shows right? And Danny has to be in the Luke Cage show, along with Jessica Jones. I feel like the latter three series are going to be interconnected, it'll be cool to see if they do some Daredevil appearances Yea I was being unclear, I meant they didn't milk it out like some action shows do. He tries for that angle the first time they 'meet' over the radio but when Matt says 'nah man gently caress that' he just goes 'ok everything that happens now is your fault' and kills a bunch of cops because that's how Kingpin does things. There's no big thing where they spell out everything we know about how alike they are and how they could have basically shared a background and all, they just let us see it and leave it at that.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:27
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I kind of wonder if Fisk and Matt are both Catholic. Like it'd make sense but I don't recall seeing any religious imagery in Fisks house are remember any other sounds. Also, I'm pretty sure those Gangsters that talked to Matts dad are also the same Gangsters that Fisk's dad owed money to.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:28
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Hollismason posted:I kind of wonder if Fisk and Matt are both Catholic. Fisk's mom is Italian so yes yes they are, and Matt is hugely Catholic.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:30
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Fisk probably grew up Catholic, but didn't he pretty much say during his last speech, that he wasn't religious, but he did remember this one story.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:33
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Daredevil : A Christian warrior comes into conflict with the Devil and has to regain his faith.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:35
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Dexo posted:Fisk probably grew up Catholic, but didn't he pretty much say during his last speech, that he wasn't religious, but he did remember this one story. Yeah he did not grow up religious but he read the bible and remembered the story of the good Samaritan.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:36
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Dexo posted:Fisk probably grew up Catholic, but didn't he pretty much say during his last speech, that he wasn't religious, but he did remember this one story. I'm pretty sure he clarifies at one point that neither of his parents were religious. He also notes while talking to Vanessa while she's out in the hospital bed that he's tried praying before but never really felt he got it. He also notes in the SWAT van before his Samaritan speech that he's read passages of the bible over the years, snippets here and there, but I'm pretty sure he adds an addendum that he didn't have one as a child or something. Matt is Catholic and probably was since childhood, Fisk isn't.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:38
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He's tryin' Ringo. He's tryin' real hard.
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Hollismason posted:Daredevil : A Christian warrior comes into conflict with the Devil and has to regain his faith. Daredevil is a gritty Bibleman reboot.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:42
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Here's the best review for Daredevil yet: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act-four/wp/2015/04/13/daredevils-vigilante-injustices-come-at-the-wrong-time/
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Apr 13, 2015 21:44
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Hollismason posted:Here's the best review for Daredevil yet: Lol, apparently she didn't catch the part that Daredevil has super powers and can tell when people are lying.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:48
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Hollismason posted:Here's the best review for Daredevil yet: quote:But a debate like that, which isn’t really a debate, or flashbacks to little Matt quoting Thurgood Marshall, or the sight of Matt going to confession to get preemptory dispensation for his sins in the pilot don’t do much to convince me that “Daredevil” has thought very much about the anti-heroic nature of a moral philosophy where the most noble thing a parent or a lawyer can do is to hit someone very, very hard (Matt’s dad is a boxer who used to throw fights). The color palette on “Daredevil” is muddy — it’s always a rainy autumn evening in Hell’s Kitchen, apparently — but its view of the world is a crisp, and dully disturbing, black-and-white. This person didn't even watch the pilot she's mad about.
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Apr 13, 2015 21:50
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Hollismason posted:Here's the best review for Daredevil yet: So...superhero stories would be better if the heroes killed more innocent people?
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Hollismason posted:Here's the best review for Daredevil yet: Haha, when I read it, there was an article on gentrification at the bottom. It's like they're not even trying.
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That's what I took away from it.quote:But if the killings of black men, teenagers and boys that have gripped this country in recent years have taught us anything, it should be that such fantasies of certainty are dangerous delusions. And even if someone is guilty, delivering penalties outside of a courtroom has an ugly way of escalating the punishment for crimes. Walter Scott is dead because he had a broken taillight on his car. Michael Brown is dead because he was suspected of robbing a convenience store. The crimes in “Daredevil,” including trafficking and attempted murder, are more consequential, but the show is still awfully blithe about how violently Matt deals with them. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Apr 13, 2015 |
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Hollismason posted:Daredevil : A Christian warrior comes into conflict with the Devil and has to regain his faith. Starring Kirk Cameron!
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So do we know if DeKnight's sticking around for the rest of the shows? That seems like pretty important info.
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WickedHate posted:So...superhero stories would be better if the heroes killed more innocent people? Right they'd be less black and white if sometimes the people our hero killed were objectively innocent.
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Gifs! 1x01    1x02       More incoming, but I don't want to overdo it with one post.
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Drifter posted:Because Daredevil can feel the energy variances between valence electrons and the radiation they emit, so it's pretty easy for him to tell colors apart. Foggy: Wait? You can see? Matt: Yes, but not like you. I see A WORLD ON FIRE! Foggy: Oh so you can't see colors? Matt: Oh no. I can totally see colors too.
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1x10 is probably one of my favourite episodes of anything ever. I wonder how they are going to do this. Daredevil is easily good enough (and deep enough) to have many more series to comes but I doubt Netflix want to tie themselves to doing sequels for all 4 of the new series. I think Jessica Drew will be watchable but I'm expecting Tennant to steal the show and Luke Cage should be good enough with the fella they have playing them. I'll be curious how they differentiate Daredevil and Iron Fist as large parts of Daredevil could easily be an Iron Fist series. I wonder if they want to keep doing sequels for these though or move on to other heroes...Punisher is an obvious one but so is someone like Moon Knight (who was alluded to in a throwaway comment in Cap 2), Namor and Madrox.
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Xealot posted:Possibly. I suspect what happened was the writers realized they'd made Fisk too sympathetic. And a scene where he personally murders a character we've grown to care about was the best way to remind us he's the villain. I support the decision dramatically, because it elevated the stakes and contributed a lot of pathos to the show. I like this post a lot. I noticed how Wilson also has a completely different body language with men and women. With Gao , vanessa and his mother he's always hunched over sitting towards them like some gentle giant. The good son. With other men he usually has his back towards them as he fidgets around unless he gets all rage monster on them.
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Sorvah posted:I think Jessica Drew will be watchable but I'm expecting Tennant to steal the show and Luke Cage should be good enough with the fella they have playing them. I'll be curious how they differentiate Daredevil and Iron Fist as large parts of Daredevil could easily be an Iron Fist series. If they're adapting the Immortal Iron Fist stuff then Iron-Fist will be a lot more colorful visually and have a much more fantastic and mystical tone than the down-to-Earth and morally grey/muddiness of Daredevil. It'll be about magical dimensions that connect to Earth every decade and kung-fu champions who can one-punch dragons, infuse guns with qi/chi, heal others magically and poo poo. The kind of kung-fu that Daredevil is doing will be small time compared to Iron-Fist.
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Sorvah posted:I'll be curious how they differentiate Daredevil and Iron Fist as large parts of Daredevil could easily be an Iron Fist series. Really I imagine the second the dragon shows up or he has to deal with the alien plant people folks would be fine going "Yep, this sure isn't Daredevil".
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So I'm starting to wonder if Luke Cage is going to end up being a romantic comedy/love story that'll build on whatever relationship Luke and Jessica start in AKA Jessica Jones. It'd give them their humanizing hook plus allow for an un-tread angle in super hero (well at least cinematic) stories.
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Sorvah posted:I wonder if they want to keep doing sequels for these though or move on to other heroes...Punisher is an obvious one but so is someone like Moon Knight (who was alluded to in a throwaway comment in Cap 2), Namor and Madrox. I'd want to see Blade, which would actually make sense given the tone and some of the supernatural / magical elements in Daredevil. If they can do secret underground magic kung fu alternate dimension poo poo, vampires aren't that absurd of a premise. My weird choice is a Hannibal King series. Not in the Ryan Reynolds sense of the character; I could see them reconfiguring Hannibal King as a sort of John Constantine figure for the MCU. Which would play into a general trend of more supernatural characters (other than Blade) like Moon Knight or Cloak & Dagger.
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I have long waited to see Iron Fist literally punch a Dragon to death. It better not be metaphorical. I want him to beat a dragon to death with his bare hands and then punch through it's chest.
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Hollismason posted:I have long waited to see Iron Fist literally punch a Dragon to death. It better not be metaphorical. I want him to beat a dragon to death with his bare hands and then punch through it's chest. Uh is there another way to become an Iron Fist?
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I would like a Runaways series
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There's a Spider-Woman series coming too? 
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Hollismason posted:I have long waited to see Iron Fist literally punch a Dragon to death. It better not be metaphorical. I want him to beat a dragon to death with his bare hands and then punch through it's chest. Man, it doesn't even seem like Doctor Strange is gonna be out before Iron Fist. That sucks. Really wish they could have done a deep dive. But doubt they do it with Strange probably being what introduces magic
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