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Lysidas
Jul 26, 2002

John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.
Pillbug

Suspicious Dish posted:

What browser are you using, and are there any errors in the error console?

firefox 37 on linux, and no, error console's blank

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Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.

Subjunctive posted:

yeah, the "family has a lovely cell phone" set, not the "suzanne somers on late night TV" set.

if you want to hear harrowing tales of carrier battles and so forth, I'm happy to connect you with some current and ex FirefoxOS people, btw

should hook em up with the Internet.org dudes

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Malcolm XML posted:

should hook em up with the Internet.org dudes

oh yeah, duh

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Lysidas posted:

firefox 37 on linux, and no, error console's blank

do you have javascript off

Lysidas
Jul 26, 2002

John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.
Pillbug
yeah

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
That would be why. The third-party contractor built the site in AngularJS to handle translations depending on your browser's language (I don't know why), so it requires JavaScript.

I could rewrite it, but we have a new site launching at midnight on Tuesday, so it's not worth it.

Lysidas
Jul 26, 2002

John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.
Pillbug
cool i look forward to being able to look at the stuff youre working on :)

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica
Susp dish, can you reveal anything about the ARM variant of endless? I also didn't see any vids of the OS in use.

Still want to know more.

cowboy beepboop
Feb 24, 2001



nice, gnome3 with a taskbar

cowboy beepboop
Feb 24, 2001

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers

the kickstarter video has some video of the OS in use - looks nice

edit "our first prototype ran on andriod - it was terrible" lol

cowboy beepboop fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Apr 14, 2015

cthulhoo
Jun 18, 2012

my stepdads beer posted:



nice, gnome3 with a taskbar

so they turned ubuntu into android and put it on a buttplug/ufo hybrid

that's cool i guess

Dolomite
Jul 26, 2000
Cars & Legs

my stepdads beer posted:



nice, gnome3 with a taskbar

~endless fields of grain~

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Symbolic Butt posted:

I can see it now!

sure hope your company's minicomputer things take over the cheap laptops that barely works because it contains lovely code written by an rear end in a top hat who can hardly understand linux drivers

minicomputers are several times larger than these things

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

there's a typo on the first line of the 500 gig model description

Intel® Bay Trai-Ml N2807 chipset

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
i don't think endless is going to succeed but i really want them to

Symbolic Butt posted:

sure hope your company's minicomputer things take over the cheap laptops that barely works because it contains lovely code written by an rear end in a top hat who can hardly understand linux drivers

this is exactly why i want them to succeed

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Suspicious Dish posted:

That would be why. The third-party contractor built the site in AngularJS to handle translations depending on your browser's language (I don't know why), so it requires JavaScript.

doing the translation layer in js makes a lot of sense and it is a trend i really like

your developers and designers can make changes as they see fit without waiting on your third party translators. users who reach a recently changed page get something that's 90% in their native language with just the recent changes in english

at some point, the third party translator catches up and everything is back to 100%

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
I can't say anything about the ARM variant of Endless, other than what's on our GitHub page:

https://github.com/endlessm/linux-meson


Also, our code is open-source now: https://github.com/endlessm/eos-desktop

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
Also, if anybody has any other questions, feel free to ask. I'm basically on question duty the entire week.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Suspicious Dish posted:

Also, if anybody has any other questions, feel free to ask. I'm basically on question duty the entire week.

why is it a desktop and not a netbook?

what is it good for without internet access? i'm not being snarky, i really want to know what the intended purpose is

why did the intel version come out first, and why bother with an ARM model?

how have you not fired your marketing person? your firm's marketing literature literally uses the word "cheap" to describe the product, an inch away from "elegant." (guess which word will stick with the reader)

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

why is it a desktop and not a netbook?

Laptops / netbooks didn't do well in R&D and user testing. Crappy keyboards / touchpads / screens meant the computers felt much harder to use for the experienced user, even with the same OS.

Users told us they would use it plugged into a wall anyway. They don't have a no reason to carry a laptop around.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

what is it good for without internet access? i'm not being snarky, i really want to know what the intended purpose is

It comes preloaded with tons of apps that have content from Wikipedia and WikiHow, for education, games and other things. There's plenty more coming with that plan ("offline internet"), but I can't talk about it quite yet.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

why did the intel version come out first

Ease of manufacturing, and it takes less R&D.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

and why bother with an ARM model?

Price.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

how have you not fired your marketing person? your firm's marketing literature literally uses the word "cheap" to describe the product, an inch away from "elegant." (guess which word will stick with the reader)

The entire team has been working on this copy for two weeks, me included. There's bound to be plenty of mistakes that sometimes slip through.

We're hoping to let it get across that it's quite inexpensive at $169, but it's a luxurious computer, it's not OLPC in quality.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

does the non-wifi unit just have an unpopulated mini-pcie slot or is the wireless gear actually soldered onto the board in the higher-end models?

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
The antenna slot is just unpopulated. It actually really is $20 on the BOM, which is why we offer a version without it.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
suspicious dish, your answers actually made sense. thanks for bothering

i hope this poo poo takes off

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
I'm trying to be open and honest about everything, because I love my job and I care (if you couldn't tell from the two shots they used of me in the video).

Also, I'm also answering Kickstarter questions, and am set up to answer HN / reddit / whatever else questions when they come in, so why not here?

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

how have you not fired your marketing person? your firm's marketing literature literally uses the word "cheap" to describe the product, an inch away from "elegant." (guess which word will stick with the reader)

From our marketing person: "The website actually says: Plastic, packaging and pixels are cheap. I need more context for this comment to answer"

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

tell him the context is "a shitposting computer forum on a comedy website"

jre
Sep 2, 2011

To the cloud ?



Suspicious Dish posted:

" I need more context for this comment to answer"
in the context of "Yospos bicth"

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Suspicious Dish posted:

From our marketing person: "The website actually says: Plastic, packaging and pixels are cheap. I need more context for this comment to answer"

you're tying "cheap" into the identity of the product . the product is made of plastic, packaging, and pixels. and that composition is "cheap."

"cheap" is a word meaning both inexpensive and poor quality, in combination. it carries a negative connotation in all but the most informal contexts

your advertising is too formal to joke about "cheap"

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
is this an english as a second language thing?

maybe the spanish-language ad copy is less hosed

Athas
Aug 6, 2007

fuck that joker
Can I buy one of these things and have it sent to my decadent northern European socialist paradise? It sounds like something I would want to play with (and the money would go to something good, so I would not mind paying a premium).

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Athas posted:

Can I buy one of these things and have it sent to my decadent northern European socialist paradise? It sounds like something I would want to play with (and the money would go to something good, so I would not mind paying a premium).

Yep. We're willing to ship anywhere, but it might cost more.

Athas
Aug 6, 2007

fuck that joker
Did I seriously just see Tuxracer in the video on the Kickstarter page?

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
Yep. It's our most popular games from Analytics data.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
tux racer is actually a good and fun game

i'm not kidding at all

Athas
Aug 6, 2007

fuck that joker
Or is that Tuxkart?

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
TuxRacer is the game where you go down a slalom.

Super Tux Kart is the Mario Kart clone.

Super Tux Kart is the good game and it's the one that's in the video.

Maximum Leader
Dec 5, 2014
what are the chances of having a tv if you dont have a computer?

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Maximum Leader posted:

what are the chances of having a tv if you dont have a computer?

Crazy high.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Maximum Leader posted:

what are the chances of having a tv if you dont have a computer?

Everybody in our market has a TV or knows a neighbor with a TV they can borrow.

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triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



it looks neat

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