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Guavanaut posted:"Why laws for england shold be written in common speak and not in all this law language like commas and atrophies and poo poo," by Nigel, age 51. Yeah but I mean a lot of people have trouble with spelling or writing, and unless they're calling someone else out over it I'm not gonna have a go at them. If anything it gives them some 'real people, not slick politicians' credibility with the UKIP crowd, and ain't nobody getting won over by someone being patronising about all their mistakes like they're literally children
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# ? Apr 18, 2015 19:59 |
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Crikey, I thought the cocaine thing and the rest was just a running joke about Osbourne, but just read this and it sounds dodgy as gently caress http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/george-osborne-natalie-rowe-police-2366160
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# ? Apr 18, 2015 20:18 |
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Guavanaut posted:"Why laws for england shold be written in common speak and not in all this law language like commas and atrophies and poo poo," by Nigel, age 51. I'm fairly certain most laws are being written in common English on gov.uk anyway. https://www.gov.uk/browse/justice/rights
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# ? Apr 18, 2015 21:01 |
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Acaila posted:Crikey, I thought the cocaine thing and the rest was just a running joke about Osbourne, but just read this and it sounds dodgy as gently caress http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/george-osborne-natalie-rowe-police-2366160 The police have been threatening kids not to tell about being raped by MPs and burying axes in people's skulls for the last three decades. This is a comparitively minor and understandable gross abuse of power.
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# ? Apr 18, 2015 21:13 |
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Reveilled posted:I think Sony's guy who apparently works closely with the current minister for Culture and Sport would know getting appointed as a minister is more involved than asking the CEO of the Carphone Warehouse to have a word with the Chancellor. I think phrases like "Operation: House of Spikes" "The game is afoot" and the actual use of the word "conspiring" suggest a facetious tone. Nah it's not an opinion, anyone who thinks it isn't a joke between two guys who are friends is either on the autistic spectrum or willfully misreading the tone of the email. Besides the current process is "Cameron uses an advanced predictive algorithm on a GCHQ super-computer to objectively determine the person in the country that would be the worst for the position and chooses them" anyway so who gives a gently caress?
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# ? Apr 18, 2015 21:14 |
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Addz posted:I'm fairly certain most laws are being written in common English on gov.uk anyway. https://www.gov.uk/browse/justice/rights
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# ? Apr 18, 2015 21:49 |
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Lawyers will try and make a case based on every single word in a law that might acquit their client. There's many many books of caselaw of trials where a single word in a single sentence has been enough to get a retrial and acquittal. Sometimes you need all the extra speak just to define what is and isn't.
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# ? Apr 18, 2015 23:13 |
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big scary monsters posted:The interesting part of the story isn't really a high up Tory doing coke and associating with a sex worker, it's the apparent abuse of power in trying to cover it up. This. The response to the photos suggests that something very embarrassing is going on and the abuse of power is awful. I honestly don't think it matters what a politician did when they were young if theyre doing their job competently (which Osbourne is assuming his job is to shrink the state and gently caress the economy). I mean so many people have messed about with hard drugs when they were young, it really shouldn't matter, not that the mail readers would view it like that.
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 03:36 |
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StoneOfShame posted:This. The response to the photos suggests that something very embarrassing is going on and the abuse of power is awful. I honestly don't think it matters what a politician did when they were young if theyre doing their job competently (which Osbourne is assuming his job is to shrink the state and gently caress the economy). I mean so many people have messed about with hard drugs when they were young, it really shouldn't matter, not that the mail readers would view it like that. Well it's the hypocrisy is the thing, isn't it? He can get away with it and indeed use the peelers to suppress someone talking to the press, the rest of us would, if we're respectable, be told not to do it again, and if we're not, have our life destroyed. Osbourne totally supports that. Plus we've seen him in the Commons looking completely off his tits on something so it's not exactly a stretch to think he's still snorting, though admittedly it might now be the ground-up bones of children he has caused the starvation of.
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 05:47 |
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I never knew political spending in the UK was this concentrated: Article: 76 people 'made 41% of donations' From: Yahoo! News Date: April 18, 2015 quote:Just 76 people accounted for 41% of all individual and corporate donations made to the political parties and other political causes in Britain over the past five years, it has been reported.
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 05:55 |
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Accretionist posted:I never knew political spending in the UK was this concentrated: Interesting that they chose 41% as the line and then counted up the people. I wonder if they looked at a graph and decided that particular percentile was the most shocking
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 07:13 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_RonXv8u78
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 07:14 |
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Mister Adequate posted:Well it's the hypocrisy is the thing, isn't it? He can get away with it and indeed use the peelers to suppress someone talking to the press, the rest of us would, if we're respectable, be told not to do it again, and if we're not, have our life destroyed. Osbourne totally supports that. Plus we've seen him in the Commons looking completely off his tits on something so it's not exactly a stretch to think he's still snorting, though admittedly it might now be the ground-up bones of children he has caused the starvation of. That and the fact that if a Labour minister got caught doing the same, he'd be lynched by the press, who are also doing coke with sex workers.
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 07:51 |
My breaking news feed listed this as noteworthy, "David Cameron to announce Lloyds shares will be offered at below-market prices if Conservatives win election". Is this offering a discount on buying shares of Lloyds really a big deal or is it more like news filler?
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 08:21 |
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RandomPauI posted:My breaking news feed listed this as noteworthy, "David Cameron to announce Lloyds shares will be offered at below-market prices if Conservatives win election". Is this offering a discount on buying shares of Lloyds really a big deal or is it more like news filler? It's selling off public assests at cut rate prices in order to try and woo people since the stock will immediately rise afterwards and it'll be free money for anyone that buys the stock.
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 09:06 |
That makes it sound like a bribe.
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 09:12 |
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for people buying £1,000 to £10,000 of the shares, to be precise, if you had any doubt about the intended demographic of this carrot e: RandomPauI posted:That makes it sound like a bribe. there's a facially legitimate justification, in the sense of ensuring a wider representation of small shareholders as a political vision in itself. This used to be a popular way to formalize the intuition of a nation of shopkeepers in a contemporary age announced at this time, though, it's obviously an electoral carrot ronya fucked around with this message at 09:19 on Apr 19, 2015 |
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RandomPauI posted:That makes it sound like a bribe. yep.
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 09:20 |
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the new party of the working class, by which we mean wage labour who are nonetheless earning a sufficiently high wage that they're hostile to working class identity politics
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 09:25 |
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I'd have hoped people would be nothing but relieved these days to hear of MPs having sex with consenting adults and doing a bit of drugs
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 09:50 |
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KKKlean Energy posted:Interesting that they chose 41% as the line and then counted up the people. I wonder if they looked at a graph and decided that particular percentile was the most shocking No, it's because the Times is owned by Murdoch and he's 77th.
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 09:58 |
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Having to move back to England from Scotland and man the rental system here absolutely loving sucks.
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 10:37 |
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Looks like Right to Buy II isn't going down so well, although raising the inheritance tax threshold is:Pesmerga posted:Having to move back to England from Scotland and man the rental system here absolutely loving sucks.
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http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/who-said-it-katie-hopkins-or-stormfront--xkC9MQ8Kvg?js=false
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LemonDrizzle posted:Looks like Right to Buy II isn't going down so well, although raising the inheritance tax threshold is: It's because people think Inheritance Tax is somehow "being taxed twice". Even though VAT and other taxes are "taxing you twice".
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 11:31 |
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LemonDrizzle posted:Looks like Right to Buy II isn't going down so well, although raising the inheritance tax threshold is: That's the main one. In particular the range of fees, including some rental agencies having 'checkout fees', which I'm not entirely sure they should be doing, refusal to break down the actual administrative costs to show why they're so high, in some cases wanting multiple referees before renting, etc etc. A lot more bureaucracy, with the main justification being to try and gouge as much money out of you as possible.
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 11:39 |
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Pesmerga posted:That's the main one. In particular the range of fees, including some rental agencies having 'checkout fees', which I'm not entirely sure they should be doing, refusal to break down the actual administrative costs to show why they're so high, in some cases wanting multiple referees before renting, etc etc. A lot more bureaucracy, with the main justification being to try and gouge as much money out of you as possible. if you've got cash up front a lot of the ones I've interacted with are fairly flexible if you yell at a manager and then disappear for ages. No rent no bonuses. Last time took a week of haggling and a lot of "but the fees are set in stone" before they finally caved and removed everything except the admin fee, but it's possible. Of course this is beside the point that the whole practice is morally reprehensible and should be banned.
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Spangly A posted:if you've got cash up front a lot of the ones I've interacted with are fairly flexible if you yell at a manager and then disappear for ages. No rent no bonuses. Agreed. It's enough to get me to vote Labour that they're stating that they will end tenancy fees in England and Wales.
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http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Politics/article1545969.ecequote:ED MILIBAND will fast-track rail renationalisation if Labour wins power, launching a review of the franchising system in his first 100 days.
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LemonDrizzle posted:http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Politics/article1545969.ece
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 12:01 |
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Yesss force the Tories to defend privatised rail
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Phoon posted:Yesss force the Tories to defend privatised rail I have no idea why they've waited this long to start beating the Tories over the head with it. Renationalization is a policy with overwhelming public support, and there's no real way to oppose it without stating "We're not going to do it because we make a lot of money from it". Labour should be cramming it down the throats of the Tories at every given opportunity.
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 12:19 |
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They proposed that policy last year and people moaned that it wasn't good enough i.e not full nationalisation. Funny how elections change people's outlook.
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# ? Apr 19, 2015 13:06 |
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I think the official review and putting the franchising on hold is new, and pushing nationalising railways as a big deal is good politicking and puts the tories on the back foot E: its obviously not as good as immediate full nationalisation but declaring full nationalisation would be extremely risky, as it would allow the Tories to attack as an unfunded spending spree which is their greatest weakness in public perception and what labour are working hard this election to avoid. This way they get positives from the people who want nationalisation without the risk. Phoon fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Apr 19, 2015 |
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Pesmerga posted:That's the main one. In particular the range of fees, including some rental agencies having 'checkout fees', which I'm not entirely sure they should be doing, refusal to break down the actual administrative costs to show why they're so high, in some cases wanting multiple referees before renting, etc etc. A lot more bureaucracy, with the main justification being to try and gouge as much money out of you as possible. It's so transparent too; I had to pay almost £500 in fees for my current place and the fees for references and credit check were a percentage of the monthly rent. Because I guess the cost of making two phone calls varies depending on how big a sucker your tenant is. Anyone know what's up with all the military choppers flying into Wales today? Between a couple of my friends of Facebook we've seen about 20 over Bath and Bristol - Chinooks, Apaches, Wildcats, Merlins. I didn't think Plaid Cymru posed that big a threat to the establishment.
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quote:Labour is to raise the prospect of further parts of the rail network being taken back into public ownership when it announces plans to subject franchises to a competitive bid between the state and private sector as they come up for renewal. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jul/03/rail-network-franchises-labour-plan July last year. Notice the positioning. The election had to be closer before those parties - the rail unions and Labour backbenchers - would shut up.
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big scary monsters posted:Anyone know what's up with all the military choppers flying into Wales today? Between a couple of my friends of Facebook we've seen about 20 over Bath and Bristol - Chinooks, Apaches, Wildcats, Merlins. I didn't think Plaid Cymru posed that big a threat to the establishment. Something to do with all the fires, maybe?
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big scary monsters posted:Anyone know what's up with all the military choppers flying into Wales today? Between a couple of my friends of Facebook we've seen about 20 over Bath and Bristol - Chinooks, Apaches, Wildcats, Merlins. I didn't think Plaid Cymru posed that big a threat to the establishment.
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loving hell. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/19/700-migrants-feared-dead-mediterranean-shipwreck-worst-yet
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edit: nm
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