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crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
Really can't believe the Tories dusted off old John Majors to do a bit of fear mongering for them today.

Johd Maydjuhs posted:

"Labour would be in hock to a party that - slowly but surely - will push them ever further to the left. And who would pay the price for this?"

The rich? :aaa: You've certainly convinced me that it might be worth voting Labour! Thanks, Old John Majors!



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UnquietDream
Jul 20, 2008

How strange that nobody sees the wonder in one another
Ballot Monkeys has started out well, really liking the first few minutes.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

a pipe smoking dog posted:

I remember when I was 18 a friend couldnt decide whether to vote BNP or Communist in the welsh assembly election.
The BNP was (lol, they're pretty much bankrupt now) one of the few parties to try and get acceptance by coating their racism with a veneer of hard socialism. I can see where they might appeal to someone who is disillusioned with even the Labour party being afraid to say the S-word until recently, assuming that person had lived in a bubble where they had never had a conversation with anybody about the BNP.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Yeah, they definitely played the populist Socialism angle hard. Lots of talk of "A job for every British person" and "A fairer country."

Turns out "fairer" has a dual meaning.

Whorelord
May 1, 2013

Jump into the well...

a pipe smoking dog posted:

I remember when I was 18 a friend couldnt decide whether to vote BNP or Communist in the welsh assembly election.

A friend of mine's dad is either voting labour because the conservatives made his life as a disabled person horrific, or UKIP because he's a massive racist/homophobe

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I made the mistake of voting lib dem last election. At least it was in a labour stronghold

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.
Imo if you live in England in a swing constituency you should vote labour, otherwise write in"SNP" and tick a cross next to that.

PiCroft
Jun 11, 2010

I'm sorry, did I break all your shit? I didn't know it was yours

Stewart Hosie is my MP in a seat so SNP-safe that voting is practically a formality.

Maybe I should go a bit mental and vote for Cannabis is Safer than Alcohol

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Coohoolin posted:

Imo if you live in England in a swing constituency you should vote labour, otherwise write in"SNP" and tick a cross next to that.

Your canvassing hasn't gone well if that's the best you can come up with

I'm not sure ticking a cross is even possible

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

In the last polls Lord Ashcroft did in my constituency a couple of weeks back he had the Tories and Labour dead even on 40% each. My vote is the most important vote.

Renfield
Feb 29, 2008

Jose posted:

I made the mistake of voting lib dem last election. At least it was in a labour stronghold

So did I, in a Tory Stronghold - because I read there manifesto, and believed them on Student Fees, NHS, Trident and a half dozen other things

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

Prince John posted:

Not at all serious, but I did find this youtube video vaguely amusing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdHreNvohMo

Reminds me of all those times a dick in a BMW will bomb it down the empty lane and cut in at the last minute.

This guy is a loving hero.

mediadave
Sep 8, 2011
Ugh, I don't know how I'm going to last till the 7th. Every poll fills me with dread or offers brief relief. That the SNP stuff seems to be striking a cord, and therefore the Tories will keep hammering it for the next two weeks, just makes my heart sink.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.
Scottish underdogs V entitled Englishmen is a time honoured tradition that might just have the right result this time.

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



KKKlean Energy posted:

I'm not sure ticking a cross is even possible

Racist. Its how they routinely do it in Switzerland, Lithuania, and Scotland.

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Renfield posted:

You quite often see Big Trucks straddling lanes to stop this happening as well.
Big trucks do it because they have huge blind spots, especially while turning, and if they don't straddle the lanes some joker is going to pull into them and get themselves loving killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV-rhiGRFTE

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Vitamin P posted:

They're coming to a marginal near my ends and I cannot see a load of glass-eyed besuited yanks reading from a script and saying 'NHS' in a wrong accent helping the Tories in the slightest.

I hope they come to somewhere like Gloucestershire or Worcester, because listening to Americans trying to pronounce those is a sport fit for kings :allears:

TheHoodedClaw
Jul 26, 2008

Coohoolin posted:

Scottish underdogs V entitled Englishmen is a time honoured tradition that might just have the right result this time.

That's quite a statement. You don't actually know much about the history of Scotland, do you? I'd hope that someone with your expensive education would at least have a more nuanced analysis than the utter loving shite you type, but it seems not. Let us look at it again :

quote:

Scottish underdogs V entitled Englishmen is a time honoured tradition that might just have the right result this time

What THE gently caress is this? You live in a bubble, a privileged one, student politics loving bollocks. Off to St Petersburg in the run up to the referendum, eh? Big campaigner, oh yes. Grinding it out with whatever party you believe in at any given moment, except that's a flexible thing, too. You believe in gently caress all, and you should be ashamed.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

TheHoodedClaw posted:

That's quite a statement. You don't actually know much about the history of Scotland, do you? I'd hope that someone with your expensive education would at least have a more nuanced analysis than the utter loving shite you type, but it seems not. Let us look at it again :


What THE gently caress is this? You live in a bubble, a privileged one, student politics loving bollocks. Off to St Petersburg in the run up to the referendum, eh? Big campaigner, oh yes. Grinding it out with whatever party you believe in at any given moment, except that's a flexible thing, too. You believe in gently caress all, and you should be ashamed.

nice meltdown

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

mediadave posted:

That the SNP stuff seems to be striking a cord, and therefore the Tories will keep hammering it for the next two weeks, just makes my heart sink.

Does it? I thought all the polls had been static for months? And all my anecdotal evidence suggests that people in England (London, mind) don't seem to have an issue with Nicola Sturgeon, so I don't see how successfull this "Sturgeon AND Milliband" thing could be.

Imagine being Scottish Labour right now, and losing all your left-wing voters to the SNP, while the Tories hark on about what they see as the spectre of a Labour-SNP coalition. Tory-hating Scottish voters who have switched to the SNP probably think that sounds pretty good.

comma
Jun 1, 2008

Acaila posted:

I got a lot out of Modern Studies in school. Doing (ok, winning) a mock election was one of my fondest memories of that era, and the Higher Modern Studies work on things like voting systems, the media, how laws are made, lobbying, etc. was all really interesting. Was a hugely popular course at my school.

I really enjoyed Modern Studies too, we covered the modern history of South Africa as well which was completely new information for me at the time. I think we were blessed with very good teachers, too, although the experience of finding out that I had received 100% on the second part of the actual exam was what made me truly realise that, at least in the humanities, exams were a little pointless. The question was on the one part of the course I hadn't really revised - privatization - and I essentially penned a rambling, vaguely socialist screed with a few buzzwords that I remembered from class thrown in. Evidently the marker was some tired old lefty who it resonated with, but still, it didn't really feel like an achievement.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be as politically aware as I am now if I hadn't had that foundation to build on, though. hooray for school

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Coohoolin posted:

nice meltdown
You do come across as a right condescending bastard, so you should be used to things like that by now.

I'm still laughing at your idea that the SNP should stand in an area that was a bulwark against Scottish invasions for close to 500 years. Not that it's a part of history I think anyone should (or would) particularly get hung up on... just that you said it without even a playful nod and wink, like you had no clue.

You're like a Swiss Mel Gibson, reducing thousands of years of nuanced history to a set of ridiculous caricatures.

tooterfish fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Apr 22, 2015

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

OwlFancier posted:

I hope they come to somewhere like Gloucestershire or Worcester, because listening to Americans trying to pronounce those is a sport fit for kings :allears:

Young Republicans campaigning for the Tories in the Central Belt, going door to door in Culzean and Milngavie.

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

tooterfish posted:

Big trucks do it because they have huge blind spots, especially while turning, and if they don't straddle the lanes some joker is going to pull into them and get themselves loving killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV-rhiGRFTE

Just wanted to say thanks for posting this. I had no idea the blind spots were so incredibly bad and I will be much, much more careful around them in future.

Aromatic Stretch
Nov 4, 2009
Everything a foreigner needs to know about modern Scotland can be learned from watching Braveheart a few times.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
Disney's Brave is shorter and more historically accurate.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Aromatic Stretch posted:

Everything a foreigner needs to know about modern Scotland can be learned from watching Braveheart a few times.

Also true of a somewhat depressing number of Scots, apparently.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

tooterfish posted:

You do come across as a right condescending bastard, so you should be used to things like that by now.

I'm still laughing at your idea that the SNP should stand in an area that was a bulwark against Scottish invasions for close to 500 years. Not that it's a part of history I think anyone should (or would) particularly get hung up on... just that you said it without even a playful nod and wink, like you had no clue.

You're like a Swiss Mel Gibson, reducing thousands of years of nuanced history to a set of ridiculous caricatures.

I'm very sorry my lack of smilies confused you.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.
E: phoneposting is hard

Aromatic Stretch
Nov 4, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

Also true of a somewhat depressing number of Scots, apparently.

Supplemented with that bit from Trainspotting where they go hillwalking

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Coohoolin posted:

I'm very sorry my lack of smilies confused you.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

tooterfish posted:

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Yeah how dare an obviously sarcastic post on SA not be explicitly sarcastic.

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Coohoolin posted:

Yeah how dare an obviously sarcastic post on SA not be explicitly sarcastic.
You're doing it again!

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Oh boy it's time for Coohoolin vs. Random Person Who Dislikes Coohoolin Round MCMXI! :neckbeard:

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

tooterfish posted:

You're doing it again!

I'm very sorry my sense of irony was inadmissible through the arbiters of Internet seriosity. maybe you should haud yer weescht.

HorseLord
Aug 26, 2014

BottledBacon posted:

I made an animation all about the elections and the 5 Westminster parties, it will either be incredibly adored since it insults everyone, or utterly abhorred... Since it insults everyone. Not sure which.



http://youtu.be/qgyNFRw5gAE

what alternate universe are you from where any mainstream election manifesto is close enough to what people want that those people could meaningfully convey their approval or disapproval through voting?

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Mister Adequate posted:

Oh boy it's time for Coohoolin vs. Random Person Who Dislikes Coohoolin Round MCMXI! :neckbeard:
I don't dislike him. I think he's a one track poster, and the same record played over and over will grate on anyone's nerves after a while, but I don't dislike him. I don't really do passive aggressive very well, if I really didn't like him I'd just call him a loving prick and be done with it.

I think his reaction to being told he comes across as a condescending bastard is quite funny... since it y'know, it resulted in him immediately doubling down on it.

tooterfish fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Apr 22, 2015

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

Oberleutnant posted:

I'm struggling and wavering between happy that they're engaged and frustrated at how clueless and uninformed most of them are. One of them didn't know that you vote for your local candidate, she thought you just vote for the party. I can't blame her really. I don't think these things are ever explained to people in school. Is Civics a thing in schools?

We definitely learned about the voting system in school (I finished secondary in 2002 and am now depressed that it was 13 years ago) and it sounds like even if they HAD covered it in your school it wouldn't have made much of a difference.
The thing is our political system is so focused nowadays on the leaders and the parties that it's pretty much a given that most people are just voting for the party. Even if they do know how the system actually works.

Because it's dumb. Get rid of constituencies and bring in a list system thanks.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

tooterfish posted:

I don't dislike him. I think he's a one track poster, and the same record played over and over will grate on anyone's nerves after a while, but I don't dislike him. I don't really do passive aggressive very well, if I really didn't like him I'd just call him a loving prick and be done with it.

I think his reaction to being told he comes across as a condescending bastard is quite funny... since it y'know, it resulted in him immediately doubling down on it.

oh no someone has an opinion, to arms, to arms!

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tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Coohoolin posted:

oh no someone has an opinion, to arms, to arms!
Only the one?

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