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The Sharmat posted:All the stuff with Ben Urich made me wonder how they could do JJ for Spiderman believably, given that in this decade New Yorkers would post thousands of pictures of Spiderman on the internet every day, taken with cellphone cameras. Yeah but Spiderman doesn't pose for them
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The Sharmat posted:All the stuff with Ben Urich made me wonder how they could do JJ for Spiderman believably, given that in this decade New Yorkers would post thousands of pictures of Spiderman on the internet every day, taken with cellphone cameras. They can do that with celebrities, too, but the paparazzi still have careers.
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Apr 22, 2015 03:48
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Peter will provide JJJ with pictures of spiderman smoking cigarettes or scratching his balls or vomiting in the gutter.
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Apr 22, 2015 03:52
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*takes picture of self holding a bag of oregano* "Mr. Jameson I think I got a picture of Spiderman smoking the reefer here!" "Hot drat now everyone will know how much of a no good hoodlum that Spiderman is!"
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Apr 22, 2015 03:57
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The Sharmat posted:All the stuff with Ben Urich made me wonder how they could do JJ for Spiderman believably, given that in this decade New Yorkers would post thousands of pictures of Spiderman on the internet every day, taken with cellphone cameras. They had Peter working in IT in the Ultimate Universe.
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Apr 22, 2015 04:16
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bobkatt013 posted:They had Peter working in IT in the Ultimate Universe. Yeah, my assumption is that he'll be at the Bugle, but at an incredibly low on the totem pole position. Like, web intern at best, or janitor at worst. JJJ's such a rad character that I'd want him to be around a bit, though I doubt they get J.K. Simmons again to be the best JJJ ever. Peter also had an interesting relationship with Nick Fury in the Ultimate universe, with Fury basically grooming him to join the Ultimates (Ult U avengers) when he turned 18 and looking out for him here and there. Shield now has nowhere close to the resources it had in the Ult U, heck it wasn't even packing that much heat before it got dissolved in Cap. 2, but it'd be fun to see that dynamic a bit. Ult. Peter also idolized Tony Stark, though if he is in Civil War then I don't know if that will still be a thing. Anyway, this is me getting off topic. More Daredevil, woo!
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Apr 22, 2015 04:28
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Peter will provide more...risque...shots of Spider-Man than others can manage.
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Apr 22, 2015 04:29
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Gaz-L posted:He hears Fisk's a murderous crime boss, immediately shoots him in the face with a laser gun. 
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Apr 22, 2015 04:35
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zoux posted:I wanna see crossovers. Yeah, now in 2016 we'll have Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and Daredevil season 2, with A.K.A Jessica Jones already out there as well. I'll be really interested to see how (and how much) the other three shows inform Daredevil's second season and how they maintain interconnectedness of the 4 shows while also affording each show its own autonomy. Jessica Jones and Luke Cage seem particularly tricky in this regard, but I'm certainly hyped to see how they play it.
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Apr 22, 2015 05:16
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BrianWilly posted:Peter will provide more...risque...shots of Spider-Man than others can manage. Spider-man's been sending Daredevil dick pics for months, can't figure out why he hasn't responded.
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Apr 22, 2015 06:17
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I'd legitimately love to see that, even if it would be a criminal waste of D'Onofrio.
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Apr 22, 2015 07:06
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the white suit is here  Goddamn this show was good, can't wait for the ill intent next season.
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Apr 22, 2015 08:13
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Modus Operandi posted:Even if the old Chinese woman gave him the criminal underworld equivalent of a booster seat at the adult's table his social ineptness is still pretty incongruent with his relative accomplishments. His behavior is that of a person who has a severe mental handicap the acting is a bit over the top in some ways. Have you ever heard of the words shy or introverted? Modus Operandi posted:Karen is actually fairly reprehensible in many ways. What kind of person would she be if she told he old lady to just leave her rightful apartment? The whole point of the first half is to show that Karen and Foggy can't go around beating up the bad guys, but that they defend the innocent in a different way. The old lady dying doesn't make Karen a bad person, it makes the landlord even more evil.
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I don't know what kind of idiot you have to be to come to the conclusion that someone is "reprehensible" for advocating that someone else keep what they're legally entitled to like, you'd have to be a real fuckin' dummy to think that
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Apr 22, 2015 09:07
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Her tricking Ben into going to see Mama Fisk was pretty darn bad though. "Hmm, this guy keeps rambling about his dying wife, how annoying. Oh, I've got it! I'll use that to trick him into helping me and possibly endangering himself."
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Oasx posted:Have you ever heard of the words shy or introverted? THere's a difference between shy and enunciating words in a way that sounds like an urban sling blade. quote:What kind of person would she be if she told he old lady to just leave her rightful apartment? They sure did defend her alright. Right up to the death. Her death. Crusading and getting others killed is called being a sociopath
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Toxxupation posted:I don't know what kind of idiot you have to be to come to the conclusion that someone is "reprehensible" for advocating that someone else keep what they're legally entitled to Except they knew exactly the type of person they were dealing with and they told her to stand on principle without a single thought to the consequences. I knew she was dead the second she declared she was going to organize the other tenants and Matt knew it was going to end badly as well, he said as much. They threw her to the wolves and didn't even have the decency to even consider her safety. Karen is scared and feels powerless, and is determined to do whatever it takes to fix that. Which is fine, right up until the point where she's putting innocent people in the path of a murderous psychopath without any consideration for their safety or even bothering to tell them she's doing it. But no, you're right, what kind of idiot wouldn't want to die for their rent-controlled apartment.
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Modus Operandi posted:Karen is actually fairly reprehensible in many ways. The old woman WANTED to stay in her apartment before Foggy and Karen came along. After she does, Foggy is drunk in a bar when Karen finds him, and breaks down crying because said he should have convinced her to take the payout.
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10 Beers posted:The old woman WANTED to stay in her apartment before Foggy and Karen came along. After she does, Foggy is drunk in a bar when Karen finds him, and breaks down crying because said he should have convinced her to take the payout. Yes, she initially insisted in the beginning but the old woman visited them in their office and told them they doubled the offer. She was thinking about it before Karen and Foggy convince her otherwise. They put their need to feel good in front of her need to breathe air.
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Apr 22, 2015 12:38
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I really really liked Leland Owlsley. He was so sick of everyone's poo poo in every scene, it was amazing. Stick was awesome for similar reasons.
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AnonSpore posted:I really really liked Leland Owlsley. He was so sick of everyone's poo poo in every scene, it was amazing. Stick was awesome for similar reasons. You hire Bob Gunton you know what you're getting, and it's going to be good.
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Modus Operandi posted:Yes, she initially insisted in the beginning but the old woman visited them in their office and told them they doubled the offer. She was thinking about it before Karen and Foggy convince her otherwise. They put their need to feel good in front of her need to breathe air. They made a huge loving mistake. Arrogant and stupid? Sure. Not sociopathic villains. (The obvious and genuine grief afterwords also puts paid to them being sociopaths) They made several bad decisions and underestimated the badguys massively. It's kind of weird to write them off as the badguys because of that, honestly.
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ShineDog posted:They made a huge loving mistake. Arrogant and stupid? Sure. Not sociopathic villains. (The obvious and genuine grief afterwords also puts paid to them being sociopaths) Foggy was the one drinking himself stupid in a bar, but Karen, who was the one who was all "no we CAN'T LET HER LEAVE!" was not. Arrogant and Stupid instead of sociopathic, maybe, but Karen shares the aspect of Fisk where you put her in an emotional situation, and gently caress everybody else she's gonna shoot you in the chest or you're going to stay in your apartment the way she thinks is right, and drat the consequences because somebody has to take action for what Karen Paige feels is the right thing to do.
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The only thing Karen did that I thought was really reprehensible was tricking Ben into visiting Fisk's mom with her, but man that was a really dick move and her apology for it really did not suffice.
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Karen's tragic flaw was that she was dangerously naive. In effect, she acted like she knew she was in a comic book and therefore took steps that, in that situation, would have brought about a happy outcome. Daredevil used her as a way to effectively distance itself from common comic book and comic book movie stereotypes and point out that that line of thought is not only flawed but dangerous. It got two innocent people (and one not-so-innocent person) killed and, if they continue Karen's character trajectory into subsequent shows, will probably lead to her ultimate downfall. EDIT: VVV Mrs. Cardenas' continued refusal to accept the buy-out money highlighted her association with Matt, Foggy, and Karen and effectively put a bullseye (but not Bullseye) on her back. VVV Phylodox fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Apr 22, 2015 |
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Apr 22, 2015 14:14
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Old apartment lady gets killed to lure Matt, nothing to do with the building buyout.
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ShineDog posted:They made a huge loving mistake. Arrogant and stupid? Sure. Not sociopathic villains. (The obvious and genuine grief afterwords also puts paid to them being sociopaths) Doing it once..yeah I can see that happening and it's certainly excusable as just stupid negligence. Doing it twice and loving two people up severely is selfish. Speaking of which did Ben's wife survive? I don't remember if she passed away in that hospital near the end. If not she completely hosed 3 people.
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Modus Operandi posted:Speaking of which did Ben's wife survive? I don't remember if she passed away in that hospital near the end. If not she completely hosed 3 people. Not only did she survive, they made a point of saying that Ben's insurance policy made sure she'd be well taken care of for the rest of her life. EDIT: Possibly at Saint Benezet, if you want to get ironic about it.
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What disease did she have anyway? Lupus Alzheimer's?
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zoux posted:What disease did she have anyway? Lupus Alzheimer's? Alien-fight illness/illegal chemical poo poo is what I thought was implied or that Ben said in the one conversation where him and Karen are talking about his first story or whatever, she was the one the story was about. But yeah, it's pretty hammy.
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zoux posted:What disease did she have anyway? Lupus Alzheimer's? She had a serious case of T.V. Sympathitis.
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zoux posted:What disease did she have anyway? Lupus Alzheimer's? The same thing Peggy had in Cap 2!
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I get why they did the Ben's wife subplot but it was mega perfunctory and blehh.
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They really could have mixed it up a bit and made her a cripple or something instead of plot dementia. Maybe a quad amputee and the only way for him to visit her is if she gets rolled out of her closet on a platform with wheels on it.
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Daredevil was clearly a sociopat, think of all the innocent people the bad guys killed because of him, he practically murdered them himself! He should just have stayed home and let the criminals go about their business.
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Modus Operandi posted:Even if the old Chinese woman gave him the criminal underworld equivalent of a booster seat at the adult's table his social ineptness is still pretty incongruent with his relative accomplishments. His behavior is that of a person who has a severe mental handicap the acting is a bit over the top in some ways. I guess I was thinking about him during his stay in prison and afterwards, but you're right. Anyway, goddamn it. Steven DeKnight is the best and its a shame he's not coming back. EDIT: I hate goons. Goddamn it. Shageletic fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Apr 22, 2015 |
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Punisher & Black Widow movie, with DeKnight. Chuck in Taskmaster and some Leviathan mooks. Got yourself an actiony good time..
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Apr 22, 2015 16:17
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This is all I want out of season 2
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As much as I love Fisk, I hope that he's basically not in season 2 at all. That way Season 3 can open with "Previously and Daredevil" and show a supercut of Fisk starting at his cell wall every day for an entire year before his escape.
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^^ I doubt it. They might have him in jail pulling the strings as they mentioned Elektra and Bullseye for season 2Happy Noodle Boy posted:This is all I want out of season 2 That would be like season 5 or 6. Season 2 Elektra, 3 Born again 4 Bendis run 5 Bru run 6 Waids.
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