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The Sharmat posted:So Iron Fist is actually a relatively average white guy that gets accidentally caught up in some kind of crazy mystical Kung Fu war? Is Ironfist going to be Big Trouble in Little China: The Television Series? I guess I'll put this in spoiler tags because some people might not want to know, but here's the basics. Danny Rand is not average. His dad discovered K'un L'un, the mystical city, as a child and became the adopted child of the ruler. Later he left the city and went back to society and started up a business and became rich. He tried to go back to the city with his child and wife but certain events happen that basically leave his son alone and like his father was he is taken to the city and trains as well. He eventually becomes the Iron Fist and eventually returns like his father did. That's the quick origin rundown.
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That sounds less interesting than Big Trouble in Little China: The Adventure Continues, but I'll still give it a shot.
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Apr 22, 2015 20:20
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The Sharmat posted:That sounds less interesting than Big Trouble in Little China: The Adventure Continues, but I'll still give it a shot. There is a guy call Fat Cobra and a lot of dragon punching.
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Apr 22, 2015 20:35
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mr.capps posted:There is a guy call Fat Cobra and a lot of dragon punching. If it's played completely straight all the time it'll probably seem stupid but surely they won't do that 24/7.
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Apr 22, 2015 20:38
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The Sharmat posted:If it's played completely straight all the time it'll probably seem stupid but surely they won't do that 24/7. They pretty much play the concept straight 24/7, but that doesn't mean there aren't people having fun in it.
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Apr 22, 2015 20:41
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The Sharmat posted:If it's played completely straight all the time it'll probably seem stupid but surely they won't do that 24/7. Danny can be serious when the time calls for it, but he's a fun character most of the time and does joke around quite a bit. Especially when around Luke Cage.
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Apr 22, 2015 20:44
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Deadpool posted:Danny can be serious when the time calls for it, but he's a fun character most of the time and does joke around quite a bit. Especially when around Luke Cage. Its still crazy to think that Luke Cage is going to be involved in the next three series plus Defenders.
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Apr 22, 2015 20:47
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For those of you wondering about Karen's future plotlines, I watched a post-release interview with DeKnight (I think it was the IGN one?) where he basically said that her story was going to include elements of the comics but not go as far as "heroin-addled junkie selling out Daredevil". I'll try to find the exact quote/link in a bit.
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Apr 22, 2015 21:40
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The Sharmat posted:That sounds less interesting than Big Trouble in Little China: The Adventure Continues, but I'll still give it a shot. If you want that, there's a comic series which is exactly that. It picks up the second the movie ended.
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Apr 22, 2015 23:42
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How is Iron Fist not a hokey somewhat racist appropriation of the mysteries of the orient and kung fu? I'm only semi familiar with the character but this could be the most terrible MU character to date or the most hilarious. I hope they go full white guy karate with it and make him like Rex in Napoleon Dynamite.
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Apr 22, 2015 23:47
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NutritiousSnack posted:
I caught that.
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Modus Operandi posted:How is Iron Fist not a hokey somewhat racist appropriation of the mysteries of the orient and kung fu? I'm only semi familiar with the character but this could be the most terrible MU character to date or the most hilarious. I hope they go full white guy karate with it and make him like Rex in Napoleon Dynamite. Oh it super is but when he was invented anti-Asian racism wasn't a concern for most people at all.
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Apr 23, 2015 00:01
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Is this thread going to turn into a bunch of words about cultural appropriation when Iron Fist airs? Is that how it's gonna be?
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Apr 23, 2015 00:09
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If chinese people make and love cheesy kung fu movies, then everyone can make and love cheesy kung fu movies. People get too sensitive about this  .
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Apr 23, 2015 00:12
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Modus Operandi posted:How is Iron Fist not a hokey somewhat racist appropriation of the mysteries of the orient and kung fu? He is, but then they hooked him up with Luke Cage and started telling amusing buddy comedy stories and people stopped giving a poo poo.
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The Sharmat posted:Is this thread going to turn into a bunch of words about cultural appropriation when Iron Fist airs? Is that how it's gonna be? Oh yeah. It will begin when they in fact cast a white dude as Danny.
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Apr 23, 2015 00:14
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If they cast a Chinese person people will be complaining they turned him into a racial stereotype.
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Boogaleeboo posted:He is, but then they hooked him up with Luke Cage and started telling amusing buddy comedy stories and people stopped giving a poo poo. So basically Rush Hour with Chris Tucker and Whitey Chan.
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Apr 23, 2015 00:19
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The Sharmat posted:If they cast a Chinese person people will be complaining they turned him into a racial stereotype. Oh its a lose/lose for Marvel and the complaints when they announce the casting are going to be loud.
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Apr 23, 2015 00:23
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The Sharmat posted:If they cast a Chinese person people will be complaining they turned him into a racial stereotype. Just wait until the Shang Chi series featuring Fu Manchu. In all honesty, I'd be fine with a Shang Chi series. Doug Moench is pretty much my favorite comic book writer from that era.
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Apr 23, 2015 00:24
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It sounds like Tarantino is probably the only person who could do all this justice. Shang Chi, Iron Fist, etc.. goes deep into camp cinema territory.
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Thing is in the original Sax Rohmer Fu Manchu stories, Dr. Fu always won or got away. Smith and Petrie were always getting their asses kicked. Arthur Ward (Sax Rohmer) wrote them in a way that the racists of his time (most of his readers) would go 'Look how superior the white race is!' when the epitomes of that race were constantly getting clowned.
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mikeraskol posted:Oh its a lose/lose for Marvel and the complaints when they announce the casting are going to be loud. Just cast a Puerto Rican jewish guy, then if anyone complains THEY'RE the racist/anti-semite. Although obviously my dream casting for Iron Fist is RZA
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The Sharmat posted:Is this thread going to turn into a bunch of words about cultural appropriation when Iron Fist airs? Is that how it's gonna be? No one's going to wait that long to threadshit. It's already begun.
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greatn posted:
My dream casting for Luke Cage is Robert Downey Jr reprising his role in Tropic Thunder. They can totally flip the script have a white dude in black face and a black man in asian/white face. I would most definitely watch the gently caress out of that. gently caress it, let's dial it up a notch. Nicolas cage as Luke Cage in black face. Modus Operandi fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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Apr 23, 2015 00:47
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As an Asian™, I grant permission to Marvel to cast a white person as an expert in Asian martial arts. edit: In return I will expect Asians to be granted license to play experts in doing White People Things, like shooting guns Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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Apr 23, 2015 01:03
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Steve Yun posted:As an Asian™, I grant permission to Marvel to cast a white person as an expert in Asian martial arts. But that's reverse racism, the worst kind of racism!!!
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Apr 23, 2015 01:13
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Steve Yun posted:As an Asian™, I grant permission to Marvel to cast a white person as an expert in Asian martial arts. If they end up using Yakuza in Daredevil, they use guns. A lot.
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notthegoatseguy posted:If they end up using Yakuza in Daredevil, they use guns. A lot. Experts though, not like Stormtrooper rejects
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Steve Yun posted:As an Asian™, I grant permission to Marvel to cast a white person as an expert in Asian martial arts. The Asian guy in that kinda bad Wolverine movie's superpower appeared to be "I am incredibly good at shooting guns".
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Who the gently caress was that supposed to be, anyway? Fantomex?
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Raserys posted:Who the gently caress was that supposed to be, anyway? Fantomex? Agent Zero. Personally, I've never heard of him.
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Phylodox posted:Agent Zero. Personally, I've never heard of him. Zero was an android in the comics, they changed him to a mutie in the movie.
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Burning_Monk posted:Zero was an android in the comics, they changed him to a mutie in the movie. Not according to Wikipedia. They say he was a mutant who could absorb kinetic energy and was involved in, like, Weapon X poo poo. I got bored and stopped reading after a while, though, so maybe they revealed that he's an android later.
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Phylodox posted:Not according to Wikipedia. They say he was a mutant who could absorb kinetic energy and was involved in, like, Weapon X poo poo. I got bored and stopped reading after a while, though, so maybe they revealed that he's an android later. He's a mutant robot, clearly.
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Burning_Monk posted:Zero was an android in the comics, they changed him to a mutie in the movie. Check your privilege, flatscan  "Flatscan" may be the worst fake insult/slang term I've ever read in comics.
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Steve Yun posted:As an Asian™, I grant permission to Marvel to cast a white person as an expert in Asian martial arts. Far be it from me to correct you Oh Wise Sifu, but the Chinese invented gunpowder. Shooting guns is an inherently Asian quality just like magic Kung fu and punching dragons. Please reverse racism away something truly White like juvenile diabetes instead.
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Steve Yun posted:As an Asian™, I grant permission to Marvel to cast a white person as an expert in Asian martial arts. Xin Wong was an ordinary Chinese immigrant. Until he ate some magical quinoa at Whole Foods and became: The Social Media Marketer. But how will he defeat his arch nemesis, Black Tumblr Memes He Struggles to Understand? What if they cast a half-white, half-Asian guy as Iron Fist? Does it neutralize the problem or double it?
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Here's another piece to the MU puzzle that hasn't been solved yet until now. Who is going to be cast as Fu Manchu. I believe we can stop the brainstorming now folks I think this is the best and most obvious choice right here:  "Why herro mistah I-lon fist what an un-expected suh-pris-ah."
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Xealot posted:What if they cast a half-white, half-Asian guy as Iron Fist? Does it neutralize the problem or double it? Nothing they do will help. There will be outcry no matter what. The best thing they can do is just ignore it and hope the show is good enough that people stop caring.
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