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Helical Nightmares posted:Sell me on One Way Heroics. Constant rightward scrolling pegged to player motion but not 1:1 means movement is moderately tactical, but not overwhelmingly so. There is a minimap so if you get hosed into a corner you've only got yourself to blame. Never being able to come back and get poo poo forces decisions and discourages hoarding. No super eclectic rules you need to know to play. It's easily worth 5 or 10 bucks.
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Unormal posted:FTL is the goddamn bomb and anyone who says it's too RNG is just bad at FTL. Pausing to redirect power to engines whenever there's an incoming shot is so loving stupid I started hating the entire game.
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Klaus Kinski posted:Pausing to redirect power to engines whenever there's an incoming shot is so loving stupid I started hating the entire game. Then don't do it. I've had fun FTL games with very little micromanagement.
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Apr 24, 2015 03:12
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my dad posted:Then don't do it. I've had fun FTL games with very little micromanagement. It's pretty much required and intended for hard.
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Apr 24, 2015 03:14
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Klaus Kinski posted:It's pretty much required and intended for hard. Then don't play on hard. Hell, when I play I stick to Easy because I'm more interested in the exploring-the-universe stuff and ordering my little mans around than I am in pushing my skill. Cephalocidal posted:Constant rightward scrolling pegged to player motion but not 1:1 means movement is moderately tactical, but not overwhelmingly so. There is a minimap so if you get hosed into a corner you've only got yourself to blame. Never being able to come back and get poo poo forces decisions and discourages hoarding. No super eclectic rules you need to know to play. It's easily worth 5 or 10 bucks. As a counterpoint, the game is not very deep at all, nor is it especially well-balanced (classes that are good at melee are massively better than classes that aren't). I enjoyed it, but its mechanics are so simple I have trouble recommending it for more than $5. It's a fun little time-waster but not much more. Though it does have charm out the wazoo; it's a very cute game (and very anime).
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Klaus Kinski posted:It's pretty much required and intended for hard. That you're right about, which is why I avoid playing on hard.
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dis astranagant posted:Teleglitch is an ok game that doubled down on really lovely looking HDR and distortion effects and some of the worst sprite work I've ever seen. Why shouldn't you give your money to Arcen? I'm out of the loop on what they've done wrong, besides not making more strategy games. As for roguelike content: - Is Steam Marines any good? - I loved One Way Heroics, especially given the price. There are ways to make it harder or easier depending on how you play and if you use things like the vault, and which perks you pick for different classes. - Dungeons of Dredmor is a great roguelike that you've probably already heard of.
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StrixNebulosa posted:Why shouldn't you give your money to Arcen? I'm out of the loop on what they've done wrong, besides not making more strategy games. Pretty much everything Arcen has made after AI War was a hot mess with post release support dropped almost immediately. I hear their latest strategy game might be decent but I wouldn't advise encouraging them to make other games they aren't any good at.
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dis astranagant posted:Pretty much everything Arcen has made after AI War was a hot mess with post release support dropped almost immediately. I hear their latest strategy game might be decent but I wouldn't advise encouraging them to make other games they aren't any good at. I'd disagree; Arcen has a history of long support and tweaks to games. the specifics change from game to game, but I'd say the post-release support has ranged from acceptable to impressive with every game except for Shattered Haven and Tidalis, the latter of which didn't need any. I wasn't too into Skyward Collapse, but it was updated and tweaked regularly for a while, A Valley Without Wind got so much post-release support they just made a second game and you got it for free, and The Last Federation has got constant QOL and balance updates until a little after the release of the expansion, and they're not done with it yet. To be honest, I think the post-release stuff is Arcen's whole deal. They usually release a game that COULD have been good, if some stuff was different, and then they keep shaking it up until it's really good.
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Apr 24, 2015 03:42
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Bionic Dues is pretty cool and has an awesome theme song. It's worth a few bucks.
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John Lee posted:I'd disagree; Arcen has a history of long support and tweaks to games. the specifics change from game to game, but I'd say the post-release support has ranged from acceptable to impressive with every game except for Shattered Haven and Tidalis, the latter of which didn't need any. Calling AVWW2 a separate game was a sad joke. It was the same turd with extra poo poo no one wanted on top. That whole affair was an unmitigated fiasco.
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Apr 24, 2015 03:49
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Bionic dues is a really lovely game and the music is terrible.
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Apr 24, 2015 03:49
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Is anyone an IVAN 'expert'? I've made it through the underwater tunnel for the first time (outside of wizmode) due to sheer luck, and I'm wondering what kind of 'ascension kit' I should be trying to assemble to maybe live long enough to die to something cool. My current equipment:code:code:
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Apr 24, 2015 04:28
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Skyward Collapse is pretty great, but falls due to the light content. Insane poo poo happens naturally through gameplay such as these two images. It is impossible to tell what's going on but basically the apocalypse happened and ghosts were created from every dead opponent,and ghosts of ghosts spawned from monsters that were contnually spawning from both sides. You basically play the malevolent deity of different faiths whose only goal is more death and destruction in your name. In other words you build up a conflict that is self perpetuating trying to build an insane mythological arms race where nobody wins and the only outcome is scorched earth. It's super broken, but I love it. Not a roguelike but whatever, any excuse to talk about weird games. Bionic Dues does fall flat but I've had some hours of fun with it.
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One way heroics Plus (which is the original game plus a bunch of new content) released on Playism today, the current release of it has a bad glitch where there is no music which is mostly a problem because it means you get an error popup about it every time there would normally be a music change. I hope they fix it soon because i had a ton of fun with the original and wouldnt mind playing more of it.
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Floodkiller posted:Is anyone an IVAN 'expert'? I've made it through the underwater tunnel for the first time (outside of wizmode) due to sheer luck, and I'm wondering what kind of 'ascension kit' I should be trying to assemble to maybe live long enough to die to something cool. My current equipment: You need a belt of levitation. Other than that there's no such thing as an ascension kit, only cheesy ways to postpone your ignoble end in a pool of your own bodily fluids. You also might want to eat your hat.
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Apr 24, 2015 04:33
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Clever Spambot posted:One way heroics Plus (which is the original game plus a bunch of new content) released on Playism today, the current release of it has a bad glitch where there is no music which is mostly a problem because it means you get an error popup about it every time there would normally be a music change. Holy poo poo I didn't think that would be out for a while. Hope they fix it soon because it looks great. Bought it anyway because I love OWH lets hang out fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Apr 24, 2015 |
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John Lee posted:I'd disagree; Arcen has a history of long support and tweaks to games. the specifics change from game to game, but I'd say the post-release support has ranged from acceptable to impressive with every game except for Shattered Haven and Tidalis, the latter of which didn't need any. If you think either AVWW game is anywhere in the vicinity of 'good' I question your ability to manage your own wallet.
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Apr 24, 2015 05:01
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Update for if anyone decided to hold off, they already patched the music problem in one way heroics plus.
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So, there's a version of OWH that's essentially reskinned as a Mystery Dungeon game coming to PS4. Does anybody know if it has the OWH+ content?
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Cephalocidal posted:Constant rightward scrolling pegged to player motion but not 1:1 means movement is moderately tactical, but not overwhelmingly so. There is a minimap so if you get hosed into a corner you've only got yourself to blame. Never being able to come back and get poo poo forces decisions and discourages hoarding. No super eclectic rules you need to know to play. It's easily worth 5 or 10 bucks. Helical Nightmares posted:As a point of trivia, madjackmcmad is Dungeonman's one of the few games (including rpgs and boardgames) that actually has a retirement mechanic? The only other game I can think of that has one is the roguelike Prospector.
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Sunless Sea has retirement, setting your affairs in order is a pretty important step in the early game that makes sure your heir can get some of your stuff regardless of how you end the game (retire or die or... others).
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dis astranagant posted:I'm pretty sure One Way Heroics has been cheaper and the summer sale isn't far off. But it's not like cheaper than a buck 18 is going to affect your wallet much. Zereth fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Apr 24, 2015 |
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I've tried a lot of different RLs, but nothing has caught me like DoomRL. I hit a wall in DCSS around level 6-7 where everything seems like it's more powerful than I could ever hope to survive. Dredmor has so many options it's staggering, and I can never seem to get past about mid-game. Don't Starve is becoming fun, but I had to look up tutorials just to get to day 4. Never beat FTL, although it's real fun too. Now I guess what that all means I'd that I'm just really bad at roguelikes. And that's fine. But does anyone have a recommendation for a hand with a difficulty curve similar to DoomRL? An easy mode where you'd have to be retarded to not experience at least 80% of the game, a normal mode where randomness isn't going to kill you outright over maybe 30% of the time?
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Quad posted:I've tried a lot of different RLs, but nothing has caught me like DoomRL. I hit a wall in DCSS around level 6-7 where everything seems like it's more powerful than I could ever hope to survive. Dredmor has so many options it's staggering, and I can never seem to get past about mid-game. Don't Starve is becoming fun, but I had to look up tutorials just to get to day 4. Never beat FTL, although it's real fun too. dungeonmans is super approachable but never holds your hand.
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andrew smash posted:dungeonmans is super approachable but never holds your hand. Charismatic germaphobe. Dungeonmans is the Howard Hughes of Roguelikes. Unormal fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Apr 24, 2015 |
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Haven't seen anyone talk about Our Darker Purpose, but I'd say it's worth three bucks if you're a bit tired of Isaac and want something a little different. Be warned though, it being an Isaac clone doesn't mean you can reach nearly the same level of power you do there, it's always pretty hard and it isn't really possible to break the game. I like it, but you need to have a high toleration for dickishness.
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I was hoping Dungeon of the Endless and 868-HACK would be on the sale list but I guess they aren't 
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andrew smash posted:dungeonmans is super approachable but never holds your hand. Just want to nth a recommendation of Dungeonmans. I was able to jump right in and with a just a little experimentation. I was slayin with my Rangermans instead of going to sleep like I should have. Get it!
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I picked up Desktop Dungeons and I'm doing all right so far but I have a question: is the Dwarven racial ability as bad as it sounds? +1 HP doesn't sound anywhere near as good as +1 MP or +10% Damage
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I have an unhealthy amound of the games on sale already, but I finally bought Dungeonmans, too. Looks good so far, are there any other big updates in the pipeline? Also, Bionic Dues was planned to be improved by removing the reliance on million loot piece sorting and replacing it with a tech tree, but the lone remaining programmer got yanked off to other projects, so... It's still worth playing if you got it in a bundle, but please, play the short campaign that was patched in quite recently.
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Burning Rain posted:I have an unhealthy amound of the games on sale already, but I finally bought Dungeonmans, too. Looks good so far, are there any other big updates in the pipeline? What I really want to do is get the Psychomanser class into play. I think I'm doing to do some prototyping with his barehanded fighting stuff during tomorrow's stream.
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John Lee posted:So, there's a version of OWH that's essentially reskinned as a Mystery Dungeon game coming to PS4. Does anybody know if it has the OWH+ content? It's not by Smoking Wolf sadly, he just agreed to let em use the idea of scrolling. It's hard to say what all it'll include, I doubt much of the things like castle rebuilding and whatnot are gonna be in there. But on the flipside I believe I read it'll have 20ish playable classes that you upgrade over playthroughs. Sadly seeing how the latest Shiren games haven't been released in the states, I'm kinda doubting this will make it over either.
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madjackmcmad posted:If you haven't bought the game but now you really want to... don't! At least, not until tomorrow. No reason Thanks for the heads-up! I'd been looking at it, and this was the impetus to actually snatch it. Serephina posted:Quick! Everyone reccomend RLs in that list that you own and would highly reccomend! Because Honestly I've heard a lot of bad things about a lof of the titles in that list. If you haven't already, get Crypt of the Necrodancer. It sounds weird but it really works, even if you don't have great rhythm. Spelunky is fun. It's definitely worth four bucks. I find it's a little more obtuse than it should be about its secrets, but it'll give you some fun along the way. FTL is also a very cool game. Surprisingly chill feel to it in play. Wears a bit thin after you've beaten it a few times, but I got my  out of it before that, and 75% off is a steal.
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Tollymain posted:I picked up Desktop Dungeons and I'm doing all right so far but I have a question: is the Dwarven racial ability as bad as it sounds? +1 HP doesn't sound anywhere near as good as +1 MP or +10% Damage Its one of the lesser racial abilities, but its more powerful than it sounds because that's +1 base HP which gets multiplied by a bunch.
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 I'm gonna take a minute to poo poo up this thread with why Roguelikes are so great, this thread rules, we all are rulers, and the game making and playing world needs more of us. Here's what Steam is rocking this weekend for their three bignutt weekend sales: Grim Greymans in swirling coolsmoke (tm) or, you know, video games. Now don't get me wrong, I loved Skyrim and Mordor-- in fact Mordor was one of the few games in recent memory I actually played all the way through to the last end credit. Those games owned, both of them, and I will play every game you put in front of me about a mighty hero who can break bad upon wave after wave of loot-bearing bad guys. Of loving course. But look at the wide and wild bullshit under that third sale. Again, for reference:  Don't like dungeons? Go play a game about submarines, or ninjas, or growing old in the snow, whatever. There's still a poo poo ton of games there with unique and flavorful mechanics, vibrant colors, new ideas, and the sort of "oh man, whoa" cool feeling that waited for you when you stumbled into a new arcade, or found some crazyass shareware game, or any of the other gem-discovering methods we used when we were falling for gaming regardless of how you got your fix. This thread is best thread because you can show up one day and someone's talking about a tank simulator, or IVAN, or Elona, or FTL, or any number of wild ideas held together by the thin and oft-argued standard of "what is a roguelike", to me the answer will always be "a game that belongs in this thread", and I sit smugly upon my tautology. Please keep finding, playing, jawing about, and making roguelikes. Also, given the above, maybe I'm marketing Dungeonmans wrong. 
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Yeah clearly those three tigers should be on the tshirt of a swirly greyfog man, then I would definitely buy dungeonmans.If, y'know, I hadn't got it from the kickstarter.
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dis astranagant posted:The extra content is 2 really overpowered reaver but different weapon skills classes and a Shalore but all your skills are single target debuffs instead of passive buffs race. And some new unique items for them. You're just paying to sleepwalk through it that much more. They even prevent those classes from showing up on monsters because they're too broken. There isn't a single correct fact in this post hth
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madjackmcmad posted:I'd like to get a genuine content update in before the Summer sale. Amaranth Pandemonium was a lot of work, there's more to do, and there's some assets I have for a double-secret super boss, we'll see if I can get that rolling. Cool, that should be just in time to bring me back after I've burned out, cheers!
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I'm assuming it's just because it's still in early access, but I'm kinda dissapointed that darkest dungeon wasn't in the Steam sale. Unless I've been misled into believing that it's more roguelike-y than it actually is?
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