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Angela Christine posted:Lwaxana liked Odo because she couldn't read his mind, right? So during Earth's paranoid phase where they had armed soldiers on every corner and were blood testing everyone all the time, why not just import some telepaths to find the blank spaces? They wouldn't need to actually intrude in anyone's thoughts, which most telepaths and non-telepaths object to, they'd just need to find the non-humanoid minds. There were so many creative uses for betazoids (~~literal psychics~~) in this show that the writers never exploited. They even bothered to give them a whole slew of limitations and weaknesses, like how too much mental chatter throws them off or how they cant read certain species' thoughts, then never used them. instead they chose to make some hokey story about a Sad Space Whale who could only talk to some betazoid reject, or whatever. I remember my my favorite Lwaxana moment was when the whole crew was combing this alien delegation apart to find a secret assassin or spy or some poo poo, and at the very end Lwaxana eyeballs them for 2 seconds and is like "guys it's this dude.  " I'd be all over the Betazoid Quiverfull movement; staff at least 2 on every Federation ship.
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i wonder if troi ever got sick of hearing guys thoughts of how they want to gently caress her
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Apr 24, 2015 06:23
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Nefarious posted:i wonder if troi ever got sick of hearing guys thoughts of how they want to gently caress her Troi could only feel emotions silly. 
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Apr 24, 2015 06:26
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Shadow posted:Troi could only feel emotions silly. Yeah her special talent was telling Picard things that any idiot would know. "Captain, I sense that this man is being deceitful!" "Jesus Christ thanks for the insight there, Troi."
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Apr 24, 2015 06:31
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GrumpyDoctor posted:Yeah her special talent was telling Picard things that any idiot would know. "Captain, I sense that this man is being deceitful!" "Jesus Christ thanks for the insight there, Troi." I loved that whenever she was in a command position she'd poo poo the bed and subordinates would call her out. Wonder if she could sense their contempt and resentment towards her. Then of course the writers decided to give her some bullshit confidence arc and make the ~female on the bridge~ not worthless.
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Apr 24, 2015 06:38
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Troi was just the counsellor, the only reason picard let her on the bridge was so he could look at dem tittays.
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Apr 24, 2015 06:38
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they never should have lost the little dresses they had her wear early on tbh
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Apr 24, 2015 06:39
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GrumpyDoctor posted:Yeah her special talent was telling Picard things that any idiot would know. "Captain, I sense that this man is being deceitful!" "Jesus Christ thanks for the insight there, Troi." "Jesus... Christ? Is that some human expression, Captain?" Also, it's the future. Mankind has become so tolerant, polite and nice that we've lost the ability to read the subtle clues or react to someone being insincere.
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Apr 24, 2015 07:00
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Senator Sprinkles posted:There were so many creative uses for betazoids (~~literal psychics~~) in this show that the writers never exploited. They even bothered to give them a whole slew of limitations and weaknesses, like how too much mental chatter throws them off or how they cant read certain species' thoughts, then never used them. instead they chose to make some hokey story about a Sad Space Whale who could only talk to some betazoid reject, or whatever. lol who cares as long as its entertaining.
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Apr 24, 2015 07:34
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JediTalentAgent posted:"Jesus... Christ? Is that some human expression, Captain?" When Worf says that his father is still alive in Season Six after smashing a table, Troi says "Oh my God" like super shocked, it seems kind of weird because I assume they're all godless heathens.
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Apr 24, 2015 07:43
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Shadow posted:Troi could only feel emotions silly. 1. Horniness is an emotion 2. Those star fleet uniforms don't look very good for hiding boners. It's not like she'd be able to miss it.
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EngineerSean posted:When Worf says that his father is still alive in Season Six after smashing a table, Troi says "Oh my God" like super shocked, it seems kind of weird because I assume they're all godless heathens. when anyobdy says 'oh my god' they aren't actually appealing to a spirit they believe in!
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opus111 posted:when anyobdy says 'oh my god' they aren't actually appealing to a spirit they believe in! I dunno, you're probably right
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Apr 24, 2015 07:49
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Troi was ordered into cultural sensitivity training because her comment offended several other members of the crew. Worf was particularly troubled as he was there revealing some massive personal issue and she's there offending him since the Klingons killed their gods...
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Apr 24, 2015 07:58
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VideoTapir posted:1. Horniness is an emotion Maybe they have anti-boner tech? Otherwise it was really cruel to stick teenage boys in them.
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Shadow posted:Troi could only feel emotions silly. God drat it'd suck to work night shift with her alone. Or ever be with her alone. One thought of how much that you despise such a worthless crew member outranking half the people on board, and you'll never be on her good side again. Plus every time you roll your eyes at her obvious "emotional reading" you'd get a dirty look. ED: Also given she plays, and loses at poker... yeah, holding a straight face can fool her. She's terrible.
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Angela Christine posted:Lwaxana liked Odo because she couldn't read his mind, right? So during Earth's paranoid phase where they had armed soldiers on every corner and were blood testing everyone all the time, why not just import some telepaths to find the blank spaces? They wouldn't need to actually intrude in anyone's thoughts, which most telepaths and non-telepaths object to, they'd just need to find the non-humanoid minds. Odo was powerfully terrible at shapeshifting, though. He couldn't even do a proper nose. He was basically a mewling infant, only ever taking the vague approximation of simple forms. A proper big boy shapeshifter takes every characteristic of the thing they're mimicking, including whatever bullshit theremin sound Roddenberry used to justify the existence of telepathy. The reason why Lwaxana couldn't read him was because he never had a real brain in there. Real shapeshifters do, they give themselves all the organs. The funny thing about Lwaxana was that she has reacted three totally different ways when confronted by people she couldn't read. She found it an aphrodisiac for Odo; a repellant disfigurement on the Ferengi who tried to win her heart on Betazed and then after failing, abducted her; and simply calming from Data. Like all people claiming to be psychic, she just formed her conclusions first and worked backwards.
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Apr 24, 2015 10:24
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chaosbreather posted:Odo was powerfully terrible at shapeshifting, though. He couldn't even do a proper nose. He was basically a mewling infant, only ever taking the vague approximation of simple forms. A proper big boy shapeshifter takes every characteristic of the thing they're mimicking, including whatever bullshit theremin sound Roddenberry used to justify the existence of telepathy. The reason why Lwaxana couldn't read him was because he never had a real brain in there. Real shapeshifters do, they give themselves all the organs. Maybe she would have been turned on by data if she had known he was ~fully functional~ Live seriously, why would you build a robot with a working penis and understanding of sexual techniques unless you were a pervert with a robot sex fetish.
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Kitchner posted:Maybe she would have been turned on by data if she had known he was ~fully functional~ WHO GIVES A gently caress
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Apr 24, 2015 14:28
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The real reason Lore was disassembled was because they were freaked out him standing beside the colonists at the urinal just holding his dick.
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Shadow posted:they never should have lost the little dresses they had her wear early on tbh Nah, Captain Dick Jones was right. She was being hella unprofessional showing up for work out of uniform.
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Apr 24, 2015 14:54
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muscles like this? posted:Nah, Captain Dick Jones was right. She was being hella unprofessional showing up for work out of uniform. picard was fairly lax about that poo poo. surprised jellico didnt make worf remove his sash
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The sash was a cultural thing, wasn't it? That'd be like telling a Bajoran they couldn't wear their nose ring.
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Fetus Tree posted:picard was fairly lax about that poo poo. surprised jellico didnt make worf remove his sash It was great when Riker yelled at Ro and demanded she take off the sacred religious earring of her subjugated people who recently experienced years of occupation and genocide, but doesn't give a gently caress about Worf wearing his Little Miss Teen Klingon pageant sash all the time.
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Universe Master posted:It was great when Riker yelled at Ro and demanded she take off the sacred religious earring of her subjugated people who recently experienced years of occupation and genocide, but doesn't give a gently caress about Worf wearing his Little Miss Teen Klingon pageant sash all the time. Well if he can't carry around his cultural significant trombone on away missions, neither can anyone else.
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muscles like this? posted:The sash was a cultural thing, wasn't it? That'd be like telling a Bajoran they couldn't wear their nose ring. a uniforms a uniform
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Sour Diesel posted:gently caress voyager just watch farscape instead came here to post this because farscape is better than poo poo star trek
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Fetus Tree posted:a uniforms a uniform A klingon warrior sash is important to their religion and must be maintained, like a turban. The nose ring is an obtrusive trinket, like a cross necklace. Just like irl, only the beta religions have to follow the rules
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Universe Master posted:It was great when Riker yelled at Ro and demanded she take off the sacred religious earring of her subjugated people who recently experienced years of occupation and genocide, but doesn't give a gently caress about Worf wearing his Little Miss Teen Klingon pageant sash all the time. They let Ro wear the earring in the end though right? Anyway Ro should chill out her white person problems don't matter anyway.
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Moridin920 posted:They let Ro wear the earring in the end though right? Ro was always calling out the bullshit on the ship and it was great. Gene had to die before the writers got to question anything about the Federation. It got expanded on a lot in DS9.
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just watched the pilot 2-parter for ds9 and i have to ask is the guy who plays sisko legit insane in irl? his mannerisms and the way he speaks makes him seem like an alien pretending to be human
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Wiggles Von Huggins posted:just watched the pilot 2-parter for ds9 and i have to ask is the guy who plays sisko legit insane in irl? his mannerisms and the way he speaks makes him seem like an alien pretending to be human You need to watch his episode of the Captains https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2MEYMMDhKk
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Raku posted:You need to watch his episode of the Captains I wondered how many hours of footage they needed to shoot to get 5 minutes of semi-coherent dialogue out of him.
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Wiggles Von Huggins posted:just watched the pilot 2-parter for ds9 and i have to ask is the guy who plays sisko legit insane in irl? his mannerisms and the way he speaks makes him seem like an alien pretending to be human Yes he is a drama professor at Rutgers I think these days
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Apr 24, 2015 23:04
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THE LOST TNG PILOT http://youtu.be/27MXcQrZc1Y also  nimoy
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Universe Master posted:It was great when Riker yelled at Ro and demanded she take off the sacred religious earring of her subjugated people who recently experienced years of occupation and genocide, but doesn't give a gently caress about Worf wearing his Little Miss Teen Klingon pageant sash all the time. At that point he thinks she's responsible for the death of all those officers and has been transferred to the ship behind his back. I'm surprised he didn't call her a wrinklenose. You could totally be culturally insensitive to a Bajoran because they were a bunch of losers with no power. Besides being his buddy, the Khitomer accords created an impossible alliance with all the instability that implies. Losing it would have been restarting like the worst war the federation has had.
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Luigi Thirty posted:THE LOST TNG PILOT http://youtu.be/27MXcQrZc1Y That's the "Star Wars Holiday Special" of Star Trek.
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Luigi Thirty posted:THE LOST TNG PILOT http://youtu.be/27MXcQrZc1Y holy poo poo. Where they that bad off on 1991? The had the be getting paid pretty well to do conventions plus revenue from the movies.
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Bonzo posted:holy poo poo. Where they that bad off on 1991? The had the be getting paid pretty well to do conventions plus revenue from the movies. im sure they were fine. 1991 saw ST:VI released
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Wiggles Von Huggins posted:just watched the pilot 2-parter for ds9 and i have to ask is the guy who plays sisko legit insane in irl? his mannerisms and the way he speaks makes him seem like an alien pretending to be human Don't be a racist. He's just a black guy on a scifi TV show.
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