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Well, I'm going to do one on myself, obviously. You know what I mean
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I don't think it's Opop because of the way Alasdair played RE: Opop It would be weird if Alasdair decided to bus both his teammates on D1
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Apr 26, 2015 21:24
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LUTR: As I said before I think she was way too front and centre D1 to be scum. Scum may have been looking for an opening and struck but this doesn't feel made up to me, it feels like she legitimately misinterpreted things and came after me on actual content. EP: Still my top pick. Has been opportunistic and barely putting in effort. He was scummy before and I could easily buy his current play as last scum standing kind of play. Narco: Is honestly a bit of a blind spot for me and I need to fully reread her. But right now I have a strong enough town read on LUTR I'd say I'm comfortable going EP->Narco->LUTR
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Apr 26, 2015 21:29
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(I'm really digging this open setup thing, making it a puzzle like this makes me feel like putting in a lot more effort than I can normally muster!)
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Apr 26, 2015 21:36
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hmm I also think EP/Narco should be the next two to die LUTR burying the hatchet with opop felt town/town
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Apr 26, 2015 21:41
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I actually kind of like NGO for town other than a few posts which are more weird than scummy. Narco herself, on the other hand, just tunnelled on Somber over nothing and then made a "sure go ahead and kill me I guess" post. I still think EP is more overtly scummy though, I don't see any reason to change my original order
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Apr 26, 2015 21:52
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Opopanax posted:I actually kind of like NGO for town other than a few posts which are more weird than scummy. Narco herself, on the other hand, just tunnelled on Somber over nothing and then made a "sure go ahead and kill me I guess" post. I still think EP is more overtly scummy though, I don't see any reason to change my original order i liked ngo for town, and this might be getting too wifom-y but i find the timing they replaced at strange we had just taken out one scum a townie who wasn't participating a lot at the time would go 'heck yeah i'm not causing a lot of stress to my team and we're ahead' scum would think the opposite
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Apr 26, 2015 21:58
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but narco's response to me asking her to explain why her thoughts/motivations have been townie read sincere
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Apr 26, 2015 21:58
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How do we know Ernie is town?
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Apr 26, 2015 22:28
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You'll get my effort posts after work.
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Apr 26, 2015 22:38
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:How do we know Ernie is town? Looking at somber's posts it's pretty clear he had a tone result on him
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Apr 27, 2015 00:21
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I think Opop is pretty town. He is driving discussion in a useful discussion and has nearly summarized the current game state. Given the current lever of certainty about remaining town I would think scum would want to argue more and cloud up the newer players and their judgement. LUTR has been kinda defensive all game, failed to dunk on Hiipfire, said she would case Ernie and never got that out, doesn't ask me to explain my bizarroposting like MMM does, etc. etc. - she reads like someone trying to be engaged but lacking the ability to distance herself from her Scum Knowledge. ANarc voted Hip and put him at -1, something I would think scum would want to avoid - scum bus their bros very early or go for the hammer, IMO. Then she posts this: AnonymousNarcotics posted:I am town this game. You can lynch me if you want, I think town is far enough ahead that a mislynch isn't a huge deal right now, but you should look elsewhere. which just reads like a terrible rollover. It can also read like lost and confused town, though, and she's not wrong - we could hit her and still be very ahead. I think I wanna ##vote Look Under The Rock with ANarc in a distant second. I'd really have to be convinced to vote Opop though.
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Apr 27, 2015 05:16
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Epsilon Plus posted:LUTR has been kinda defensive all game, failed to dunk on Hiipfire, said she would case Ernie and never got that out, doesn't ask me to explain my bizarroposting like MMM does, etc. etc. - she reads like someone trying to be engaged but lacking the ability to distance herself from her Scum Knowledge. Your first two points I've already been over, as to the last two, someone bumrushed a deadline while I was still onstage so I didn't have time to make the case on Ernie, and then it became pretty clear that he was cop cleared so making a case would be beyond pointless. I'm not sure why dropping that case is a point against me. Also sorry I haven't questioned your bizarro posting, I've had other priorities this game and am unfamiliar with your meta, so if you're out of character (I'm assuming that's what bizarro means) I have no idea and you calling me out for it seems...not really fair. You mention my Scum Knowledge and I'd like you to point me to a time besides hiipfire that you think I'm coming from that perspective. I'm having a lot of trouble reconciling Somber's flip at the moment. I spent the last couple game days convinced that Opop was the cop, Ernie was the last scum, and that everything was pretty well wrapped up because momentum was at least beginning to build, and now everything is weird and I've lost the plot.
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Apr 27, 2015 15:44
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what posts made you think opop was the cop?
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Apr 27, 2015 16:12
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:MMT is def town btw MMM Whatchya Say posted:The scum didn't buy my implied cop claim. Why was this? The logic in this post seems fishy to me. And the rest of his posts including these two seems real scummy to me. ##vote MMM Whatchya Say
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Apr 27, 2015 16:44
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In what way is the logic fishy.
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Apr 27, 2015 16:52
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Also my MMT read had the context of being after a back and forth with her that I felt was a town interaction
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Apr 27, 2015 16:53
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mmm is confirmed town
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Apr 27, 2015 16:57
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Ernie. posted:mmm is confirmed town I guess I missed where somber cleared him. ##unvote That's what I get for lurking.
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Apr 27, 2015 17:01
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Ernie's been cleared since Somber flipped and I'm not sure where you'd be picking up on any coppiness from Opop.
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Apr 27, 2015 17:05
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I don't think LUTR would be so misinformed about when lylo was as scum.
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Apr 27, 2015 17:13
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SUSPECTS Opoponax Epsilon Plus TOWN Ghostly Gangsta - Vig MMM Whatchya Say - VT - Cleared by Somber Ernie. - VT - Cleared by Somber Look Under The Rock - Feels super town, entire game. AnonymousNarcotics - I had feels about NGO, but re-reading them and what AnonNarc has posted so far I get a town read. SCUM
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Apr 27, 2015 17:15
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##vote Epsilon Plus
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Apr 27, 2015 17:16
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:I don't think LUTR would be so misinformed about when lylo was as scum. Unless that's just what she wants us to think  but no probably not
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Apr 27, 2015 17:28
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K I'll be gone for a bit.
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Apr 27, 2015 18:01
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Anyway scum is probably opop or some dumb poo poo knowing this game
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Apr 27, 2015 18:04
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Good thing we get three chances!
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Just so we're all on the same page here is why everyone who is confirmed is GG- Publically used a vig, which is a town role. He is 100%, indisputibly, mod confirmed town Cop Clears Ernie- Somber was very much on Ernie D1 and then just cools right off D2. Ernie is the most likely choice for somber to have copped N1 Somberbrero posted:I thought about Ernie while we were on hiatus and I'm dropping that. His behavior was definitely anti-town at points, but Ernie is like that sometimes. I've been in several games where he combusted much worse than that as town. Also, he was the first one to speak to Allister's flip clearing me. Somberbrero posted:Ernie is definitely a huge weirdo but he isn't scum, I don't think. Somberbrero posted:I can't deny Ernie is a huge weirdo, but I've always seen his most unhelpful and self-destructive behavior in games where he is town. Then here is where he pretty much claims it Somberbrero posted:I'm not going to vote Ernie, I'm probably only going to vote you or Jawdins. You can use that information however you like. For MMM he's a bit more direct Somberbrero posted:I too would have investigated mmm. Somberbrero posted:I'm not going to vote MMM. So there's really not a lot of room for interpretation there.
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Opop: Doesn't feel like he's playing us or getting us to go after one another which I've seen solo scum Opop do lots LUTR: Feigning being lost might be a scum survival strategy and I don't think anything she says will change my mind on that (she seemed capable of changing her mind/style just fine until now) EP: The only person I think who knew MMM wasn't the cop, if he's scum Narc: Hmm she seems to be playing a pretty town game, although she's not exactly invested in solving it? Either way, we need to start moving forward not sideways ##vote EP
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Apr 27, 2015 18:36
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Opopanax posted:Unless that's just what she wants us to think Ha, it was that I saw the flip post within a minute of waking up and mistook five votes to lynch as five players left I swear my IQ drops like a hundred points before noon
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I like Epsilon for scum today. I don't buy the idea that the logic around the Somber/MMM claim bit was too dumb for scum. That interaction hit me the wrong way. Still working on a vacuum re-read but I'd be happiest to vote Epsilon today.
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Apr 27, 2015 18:50
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Yeah sometimes I sort of back out and balk when somebody is just Not Getting It, but I'll take another look at EP.
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Apr 27, 2015 18:57
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Dunking me is a bad idea but you do what you gotta do. Look at LUTR next.
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Apr 27, 2015 19:40
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Hammer yourself.
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Apr 27, 2015 19:47
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Ghostly Gangsta posted:Hammer yourself. I know I'm town, dummy. Information won't be gained with a self-hammer.
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Apr 27, 2015 20:00
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Epsilon Plus posted:I know I'm town, dummy. Information won't be gained with a self-hammer. Opop, You and Ernie. have mentioned that LUTR may just be "playing dumb", what would you say the odds are of that? Also that's a good response. I like it.
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Apr 27, 2015 20:09
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I was just joking, I do not think LUTR was playing dumb, it reads like an honest mistake to me
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Apr 27, 2015 20:10
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Ghostly Gangsta posted:Also that's a good response. I like it. What do you like about it, because I decidedly do not like it
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Apr 27, 2015 20:29
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Look Under The Rock posted:What do you like about it, because I decidedly do not like it It makes me feel comfortable about voting him. It seems scummy.
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Look Under The Rock posted:I'm having a lot of trouble reconciling Somber's flip at the moment. I spent the last couple game days convinced that Opop was the cop, Ernie was the last scum, and that everything was pretty well wrapped up because momentum was at least beginning to build, and now everything is weird and I've lost the plot. this is what i'm talking about when i'm saying that lutr is feigning confusion btw 'oh oh i don't have any concrete reads because ~confusion~' seems defensive more than constructive or helpful
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