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Quick rules question: I have the Defensas Sociales, which causes a regime change when 'first played'. If the card were to come back to my hand (say, if the thing it was extorting got nationalized somehow), would it cause another regime change when it comes back out?
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May 4, 2015 20:50
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bobvonunheil posted:Quick rules question: I have the Defensas Sociales, which causes a regime change when 'first played'. If the card were to come back to my hand (say, if the thing it was extorting got nationalized somehow), would it cause another regime change when it comes back out? There are very few cases (Zapata?) when a card goes to your hand. For example, if the enterprise you are extorting is nationalised you can either discard the troop or turn your Hacendado to his white side (if he has one), pay the deployment cost and assign them as his personal army. Because Mr. Carranza doesn't have a White (Command) side, you'd be forced to discard them. But in case it ever goes to your hand, yeah. Next time you play it it causes the regime change again. Or at least that's how I understand it. Rulebook  This is as good moment as any to say that, unless someone has strong feelings about it, we're not using optional rules (f.e. the rule that states that units defeated by other units of the same colour can be retreated instead of disbanded.)
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May 4, 2015 20:59
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Fat Samurai posted:There are very few cases when a card goes to your hand. For example, if the enterprise you are extorting is nationalised you can either discard the troop or turn your Hacendado to his white side (if he has one), pay the deployment cost and assign them as his personal army. Because Mr. Carranza doesn't have a White (Command) side, you'd be forced to discard them. Oh, you discard it! For some reason I thought it went back to your hand. I think I need another quick read over the rule book.
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May 4, 2015 21:01
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Make sure to read the Glossary, too. A lot of the rules are there.
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May 4, 2015 21:07
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Going to spend all my moneys this turn. Buying the San Germán Tannery for 2, the playing it for the remaining 5. Only generals dressed in leather become great generals. Third action is spent getting to know whoever is supplying that mercenary artillery for 0 gold. Got a feeling things might start to heat up.
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May 4, 2015 21:17
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nimby posted:Going to spend all my moneys this turn. 3 actions are needed to buy 2 cards from the market in the same turn 
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May 4, 2015 21:22
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I don't know why I can't remember that quite important fact. Going to speculate on American Smelting then.
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May 4, 2015 21:41
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Second round, bobvonunheil's Turn Last Headline Discarded: None While other players in the political scene contacted less than respectable members of society, General Reyes travelled to Sonora in order to meet Adolfo de la Huerta, manager of San German Tannery. This man had enough political clout to propel Reyes' campaign against Porfirio's re-election, and enough money to finance it. Current Regime: Pax Porfiriana Mines: 2 Economy: 3 Effect: Put 1 Pretige Cube on each Loyalty Point. Topple: Diaz Retirement, Loyalty Required. Public Cards Cost 18: TeddyRoosevelt OR Public Card: Porfirian Army Cost 16: Public Card: Catholic Church (Red) OR Public Card: Catholic Church (White) Market
Hacendados Tevery Best Francisco Madero, Intelectual Special: Buy Partners from the market for half (+) cost. Income: 3 Gold: 7 Hand: Underground Press Tableau Palomas Land&Cattle: Income 1 Connection upgraded to Mule (Boss Shepherd) Special: Immediately Nationalized if extorted. Tekopo Boss Shepherd, American Special: Start with an additional 3 gold. Income: 3 Gold: 12 Hand: Twin Buttes Mine Emiliano Zapata Train Robbers nimby Bernardo Reyes, General Special: Buy Troops from the market for half (+) cost. Income: 4 Gold: 4 Hand: Rio Yaki Dam&Power Tetabiate Yaquis Tableau San Germán Tannery Income 2 bobvonunheil Venustiano Carranza, Politician Special: Buy Black Cards from the market for zero gold. Income: 2 Gold: 9 Hand: Cientificos Defensas Sociales Action Queue bobvonunheil, you have 3 actions 
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May 4, 2015 22:33
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I'll take Mormon Lumber for free and Let's get industrial! bobvonunheil fucked around with this message at 07:41 on May 5, 2015 |
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May 5, 2015 07:35
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May 5, 2015 07:39
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May 5, 2015 07:40
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I know what I'm doing this time 
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May 5, 2015 07:42
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One of us does, then
Fat Samurai fucked around with this message at 07:51 on May 5, 2015 |
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May 5, 2015 07:48
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Third round, Tevery Best's Turn Last Headline Discarded: None Carranza's latest contacts with Porfirio's advisers, specially the 'Cientificos', seemed to bear fruit, as he quickly gained control of several economic interests in Sonora. Chief amongst them were several silver mines in the Alamos region, that had been producing ore since the Spanish colonization. Current Regime: Pax Porfiriana Mines: 2 Economy: 3 Effect: Put 1 Pretige Cube on each Loyalty Point. Topple: Diaz Retirement, Loyalty Required. Public Cards Cost 18: TeddyRoosevelt OR Public Card: Porfirian Army Cost 16: Public Card: Catholic Church (Red) OR Public Card: Catholic Church (White) Market
Hacendados Tevery Best Francisco Madero, Intelectual Special: Buy Partners from the market for half (+) cost. Income: 3 Gold: 7 Hand: Underground Press Tableau Palomas Land&Cattle: Income 1 Connection upgraded to Mule (Boss Shepherd) Special: Immediately Nationalized if extorted. Tekopo Boss Shepherd, American Special: Start with an additional 3 gold. Income: 3 Gold: 12 Hand: Twin Buttes Mine Emiliano Zapata Train Robbers nimby Bernardo Reyes, General Special: Buy Troops from the market for half (+) cost. Income: 4 Gold: 4 Hand: Rio Yaki Dam&Power Tetabiate Yaquis Tableau San Germán Tannery Income 2 bobvonunheil Venustiano Carranza, Politician Special: Buy Black Cards from the market for zero gold. Income: 4 Gold: 5 Hand: Defensas Sociales Mormon Lumber Tableau Lewis & Company Mine Income 2 Action Queue Tevery Best, you have 3 actions 
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May 5, 2015 18:26
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Pick up Hacienda Santa Gertrudis and Senator Albert Hall (for half price).
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May 5, 2015 19:13
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Third round, Tekopo's Turn Last Headline Discarded: None Current Regime: Pax Porfiriana Mines: 2 Economy: 3 Effect: Put 1 Pretige Cube on each Loyalty Point. Topple: Diaz Retirement, Loyalty Required. Public Cards Cost 18: TeddyRoosevelt OR Public Card: Porfirian Army Cost 16: Public Card: Catholic Church (Red) OR Public Card: Catholic Church (White) Market
Hacendados Tevery Best Francisco Madero, Intelectual Special: Buy Partners from the market for half (+) cost. Income: 3 Gold: 5 Hand: Underground Press Hacienda Santa Gertrudis Senator Albert Fall Tableau Palomas Land&Cattle: Income 1 Connection upgraded to Mule (Boss Shepherd) Special: Immediately Nationalized if extorted. Tekopo Boss Shepherd, American Special: Start with an additional 3 gold. Income: 3 Gold: 12 Hand: Twin Buttes Mine Emiliano Zapata Train Robbers nimby Bernardo Reyes, General Special: Buy Troops from the market for half (+) cost. Income: 4 Gold: 4 Hand: Rio Yaki Dam&Power Tetabiate Yaquis Tableau San Germán Tannery Income 2 bobvonunheil Venustiano Carranza, Politician Special: Buy Black Cards from the market for zero gold. Income: 4 Gold: 5 Hand: Defensas Sociales Mormon Lumber Tableau Lewis & Company Mine Income 2 Action Queue Tekopo, you have 3 actions 
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May 5, 2015 21:24
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Play Train Robbers on Lewis & Company Mine, Play Twin Buttes Mine, get Federal Reserve Created for no event.
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May 5, 2015 23:04
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Tekopo posted:Play Train Robbers on Lewis & Company Mine, Play Twin Buttes Mine, get Federal Reserve Created for no event. That silver belongs to Mexico, fiend!
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May 6, 2015 07:49
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How dare you imply that train robbers are under my employ!
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May 6, 2015 08:12
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Tekopo posted:How dare you imply that train robbers are under my employ! The Mexican press may not see through your ruse, but I assure you I have earned the sympathy of our friends across the border
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May 6, 2015 09:24
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bobvonunheil posted:The Mexican press may not see through your ruse, but I assure you I have earned the sympathy of our friends across the border In the news! A heavy blow was dealt to the budding enterprise Lewis&Company Mine, when the Black Jack gang broke into the facilities and stole the payment chest, killing two guards and wounding three others during the daring raid. Miners have rioted and the mine has stopped production. American investors, spearheaded by local politician Venustiano Carranza, are demanding reparations and increased security at both sides of the border in order to guarantee the continued operation of the mine. Some of the shareholders are going as far as accusing other businessmen of financing the robbers in order to eliminate competitors from the market.
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May 6, 2015 12:31
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Third round, nimby's Turn A heavy blow was dealt to the budding enterprise Lewis&Company Mine, when the Black Jack gang broke into the facilities and stole the payment chest, killing two guards and wounding three others during the daring raid. Miners have rioted and the mine has stopped production. American investors, spearheaded by local politician Venustiano Carranza, are demanding reparations and increased security at both sides of the border in order to guarantee the continued operation of the mine. Some of the shareholders are going as far as accusing other businessmen of financing the robbers in order to eliminate competitors from the market. In other, completely unrelated news, the Twin Buttes Mine has begun operations, and the US Congress has refused to abandon the Gold Standard. It seems that for some miners the future is still golden. Last Headline Discarded: Bull Current Regime: Pax Porfiriana Mines: 2 Economy: 3 Effect: Put 1 Pretige Cube on each Loyalty Point. Topple: Diaz Retirement, Loyalty Required. Public Cards Cost 18: TeddyRoosevelt OR Public Card: Porfirian Army Cost 16: Public Card: Catholic Church (Red) OR Public Card: Catholic Church (White) Market
Hacendados Tevery Best Francisco Madero, Intelectual Special: Buy Partners from the market for half (+) cost. Income: 3 Gold: 5 Hand: Underground Press Hacienda Santa Gertrudis Senator Albert Fall Tableau Palomas Land&Cattle: Income 1 Connection upgraded to Mule (Boss Shepherd) Special: Immediately Nationalized if extorted. Tekopo Boss Shepherd, American Special: Start with an additional 3 gold. Income: 5 Gold: 9 Hand: Emiliano Zapata Tableau Twin Buttes Mine nimby Bernardo Reyes, General Special: Buy Troops from the market for half (+) cost. Income: 4 Gold: 4 Hand: Rio Yaki Dam&Power Tetabiate Yaquis Tableau San Germán Tannery Income 2 bobvonunheil Venustiano Carranza, Politician Special: Buy Black Cards from the market for zero gold. Income: 2 Gold: 1 Hand: Defensas Sociales Mormon Lumber Tableau Lewis & Company Mine Income 2 Unrest 1 Prestige Safe Outrage 1:Train Robbers Action Queue nimby, you have 3 actions 
Fat Samurai fucked around with this message at 00:10 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 6, 2015 22:24
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bobvonunheil's income should be 2
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May 6, 2015 23:45
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*edit* I'm stupid  so many errors that I only think of 10 minutes after posting.Buying the Krupp railway gun, buying land for my tannery. There, that should work. nimby fucked around with this message at 05:15 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 04:33
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Tekopo posted:bobvonunheil's income should be 2
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May 7, 2015 07:41
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Tekopo posted:bobvonunheil's income should be 2 Counting is hard, OK? And this game is fiddly as heck  Is the picture/text clear enough? Any more information you'd like to see?
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May 7, 2015 07:47
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Fat Samurai posted:Counting is hard, OK? And this game is fiddly as heck All looks good to me, I am pretty satisfied with the screenshots you're providing.
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May 7, 2015 16:46
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Third round, bobvonunheil's Turn Last Headline Discarded: Bull Current Regime: Pax Porfiriana Mines: 2 Economy: 3 Effect: Put 1 Pretige Cube on each Loyalty Point. Topple: Diaz Retirement, Loyalty Required. Public Cards Cost 18: TeddyRoosevelt OR Public Card: Porfirian Army Cost 16: Public Card: Catholic Church (Red) OR Public Card: Catholic Church (White) Market
Hacendados Tevery Best Francisco Madero, Intelectual Special: Buy Partners from the market for half (+) cost. Income: 3 Gold: 5 Hand: Underground Press Hacienda Santa Gertrudis Senator Albert Fall Tableau Palomas Land&Cattle: Income 1 Connection upgraded to Mule (Boss Shepherd) Special: Immediately Nationalized if extorted. Tekopo Boss Shepherd, American Special: Start with an additional 3 gold. Income: 5 Gold: 9 Hand: Emiliano Zapata Tableau Twin Buttes Mine nimby Bernardo Reyes, General Special: Buy Troops from the market for half (+) cost. Income: 5 Gold: 6 Hand: Krupp Railway Gun Rio Yaki Dam&Power Tetabiate Yaquis Tableau San Germán Tannery Income 3 bobvonunheil Venustiano Carranza, Politician Special: Buy Black Cards from the market for zero gold. Income: 2 Gold: 1 Hand: Defensas Sociales Mormon Lumber Tableau Lewis & Company Mine Income 2 Unrest 1 Prestige Safe Outrage 1:Train Robbers Action Queue bobvonunheil, you have 3 actions  I've re-checked everything, but run your numbers, please. Fat Samurai fucked around with this message at 09:19 on May 8, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 21:56
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I'll take the CNA black card for free and bobvonunheil fucked around with this message at 13:29 on May 8, 2015 |
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May 8, 2015 08:15
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Ok, I'm an idiot so this and this look pretty much the same to me. The second one is the one that should be in the graphic. It's the same card, so no big deal. bobvonunheil, I want to make sure that you know that unrest discs don't disappear on their own and that you'll get no income from the Lewis Company Mine until it's unrest-free.
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May 8, 2015 09:19
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Fat Samurai posted:Ok, I'm an idiot so this and this look pretty much the same to me. The second one is the one that should be in the graphic. It's the same card, so no big deal. Yep, I don't quite have enough money to do anything about it right now unfortunately, and I'd rather not sell any cards.
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May 8, 2015 09:27
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[edit] Nevermind, not changing anything
bobvonunheil fucked around with this message at 13:06 on May 8, 2015 |
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May 8, 2015 13:02
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I will accept modifications up to the point where I start processing the turn. I love to see players squirming  To answer your question, if a card has a flag somewhere on it, you can only play it in the corresponding region, except in special cases (US Intervention and Anarchy come to mind)
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May 8, 2015 13:12
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Fat Samurai posted:I will accept modifications up to the point where I start processing the turn. I love to see players squirming OK, I'll change to Chiricahua Apaches and National Wasteland Reclamation (instead of Mercenary Artillery and National Wasteland Reclamation)
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May 8, 2015 13:28
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Fat Samurai posted:To answer your question, if a card has a flag somewhere on it, you can only play it in the corresponding region. Not being able to continuously see this is tripping me up most of all, now that I remember taking 2 cards costs 3 actions. That and the different deployment costs.
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May 8, 2015 17:43
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I wanted to do a turn today but the weekend happened. Tomorrow is a lazy day, I'll try to speed up a little.
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May 9, 2015 19:20
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Weekend happened a bit more. Onwards! Fourth round, Tevery Best's Turn Last Headline Discarded: Bull Current Regime: Pax Porfiriana Mines: 2 Economy: 3 Effect: Put 1 Pretige Cube on each Loyalty Point. Topple: Diaz Retirement, Loyalty Required. Public Cards Cost 18: TeddyRoosevelt OR Public Card: Porfirian Army Cost 16: Public Card: Catholic Church (Red) OR Public Card: Catholic Church (White) Market
Hacendados Tevery Best Francisco Madero, Intelectual Special: Buy Partners from the market for half (+) cost. Income: 3 Gold: 5 Hand: Underground Press Hacienda Santa Gertrudis Senator Albert Fall Tableau Palomas Land&Cattle: Income 1 Connection upgraded to Mule (Boss Shepherd) Special: Immediately Nationalized if extorted. Tekopo Boss Shepherd, American Special: Start with an additional 3 gold. Income: 5 Gold: 9 Hand: Emiliano Zapata Tableau Twin Buttes Mine nimby Bernardo Reyes, General Special: Buy Troops from the market for half (+) cost. Income: 5 Gold: 6 Hand: Krupp Railway Gun Rio Yaki Dam&Power Tetabiate Yaquis Tableau San Germán Tannery Income 3 bobvonunheil Venustiano Carranza, Politician Special: Buy Black Cards from the market for zero gold. Income: 2 Gold: 3 Hand: Defensas Sociales Mormon Lumber Chiricahua Apache National Wasteland Reclamation Tableau Lewis & Company Mine Income 2 Unrest 1 Prestige Safe Outrage 1:Train Robbers Action Queue Tevery Best, you have 3 actions 
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May 11, 2015 20:12
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Pick up Lucky Tiger Mine, play Hacienda Santa Gertrudis, speculate on Deutsche Suedamerikanische.
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May 11, 2015 20:36
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Fourth round, Tekopo's Turn Francisco Madero continues to expand his interest in Chihuahua, this time acquiring a majority share in Hacienda Santa Gertrudis. This Henequen plantation is one of the biggest in the region, employing 80 peones and their families. Madero expects that the growing demand of mooring rope, heavily dependant on Henequen fibres, will increase the profits of the industry, as well as improve the quality of life of the workers in the surrounding area. Last Headline Discarded: Bull Current Regime: Pax Porfiriana Mines: 2 Economy: 3 Effect: Put 1 Pretige Cube on each Loyalty Point. Topple: Diaz Retirement, Loyalty Required. Public Cards Cost 18: TeddyRoosevelt OR Public Card: Porfirian Army Cost 16: Public Card: Catholic Church (Red) OR Public Card: Catholic Church (White) Market
Hacendados Tevery Best Francisco Madero, Intelectual Special: Buy Partners from the market for half (+) cost. Income: 4 Gold: 6 Hand: Underground Press Senator Albert Fall Lucky Tiger Mine Tableau Palomas Land&Cattle: Income 1 Connection upgraded to Mule (Boss Shepherd) Special: Immediately Nationalized if extorted. Hacienda Santa Gertrudis Income 1 Tekopo Boss Shepherd, American Special: Start with an additional 3 gold. Income: 5 Gold: 9 Hand: Emiliano Zapata Tableau Twin Buttes Mine nimby Bernardo Reyes, General Special: Buy Troops from the market for half (+) cost. Income: 5 Gold: 6 Hand: Krupp Railway Gun Rio Yaki Dam&Power Tetabiate Yaquis Tableau San Germán Tannery Income 3 bobvonunheil Venustiano Carranza, Politician Special: Buy Black Cards from the market for zero gold. Income: 2 Gold: 3 Hand: Defensas Sociales Mormon Lumber Chiricahua Apache National Wasteland Reclamation Tableau Lewis & Company Mine Income 2 Unrest 1 Prestige Safe Outrage 1:Train Robbers Action Queue Tekopo, you have 3 actions
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May 11, 2015 20:58
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Tevery Best posted:Deutsche Suedamerikanische. I got it right on my first try  Also, 3 more cards and we are in Topple territory. Get ready!
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May 11, 2015 20:59
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