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Beach Bum posted:You can hold shift and press 2-3-4-5 to select multiple squadrons and command them as a pair. If I'm not specifically doing a split attack I usually group my torp bombers and use them as a single unit. You can also drag and drop. hth
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For my money, the best strategy is to send in your first torpedo squadron solo. Score a few hits, get some flooding. Wait a few seconds, then send in your dive bombers. He'll probably have already popped his repairs as soon as you flooded him the first time, so now he's going to burn for a while. Now send in your second torpedo squadron. If you can score multiple torpedo hits, 2 fires, and two floods, you'll probably do enough damage to sink most ships. And if not, you've still ruined his day because he's stuck slowly bleeding to death while traveling at half-speed. This works especially well against enemy CVs, if you can surprise them. US carriers are such hard targets that most don't even bother, which means the occasional surprise attack has a good chance of actually surprising them.
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May 5, 2015 10:17
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You wanna cheat as CV? Spam the mousebutton to order you planes around, every time you do they jump forward a bit.
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May 5, 2015 10:19
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I need to break myself of a bad battleship habit. My stupid brain thinks "HEY!! You have a battleship! Big guns, lots of health and armor and sweet sweet secondaries. Wade into the fray and destroy!" What actually happens is I manage to sink 1 or 2 guys while the other 5 people I've wandered into the midst of shoot/torpedo me into oblivion. Seriously, what's the point of having bad-rear end secondaries if you cant use them?
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May 5, 2015 10:42
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NTRabbit posted:I must be doing it wrong, because every time I try a manual drop with a two squadron pattern most of the torpedoes miss the target because the ship changed what it was doing while i switched between the planes What I'm doing in my carrier with some success is using bomber groups in pairs, maybe 5 - 10 seconds apart on the drop, the first dropping a normal broadside of torps the second a more head on spread so if they try to turn away (or into depending on what I think is more likely) it gets them with that. that seems to be netting me a decent number of hits. I finally got out of my Clemson after a game killing 2 Aircraft carriers and a Battleship, I did not enjoy that ship at all. Well that's a lie, it was really fun I blew up a lot of boats but just didn't ever win games in it. I'm looking forward to the British tree, especially the Nelson Class Battleships and Admiral Class Battlecruisers.
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May 5, 2015 10:47
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Really not fond of the Nagato, especially not compared to the Fuso. You lose damage, lose range, gain a tiny edge in maneuverability. Just not near as fun.
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May 5, 2015 11:33
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I'll trade you.. I am not enjoying the Amagi one bit. It doesn't help that almost every match I end up in that godforsaken Arctic map and can't get a shot in without some stupid iceberg blocking me in some way.
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May 5, 2015 14:49
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Blinks77 posted:Really not fond of the Nagato, especially not compared to the Fuso. How To Nagato: 1. Get the Secondary Battery Modification 2 upgrade 2. Get the Rudder Modification 2 upgrade 3. Get Advanced Firing Training on your captain 4. Don't spend the match sniping. Get stuck in and brawl people to death using your armor, fast rudder and the murderous short-range firepower of the 16-inchers and secondaries.  We seriously ought to just put this into the OP with how often it comes up.
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May 5, 2015 14:55
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With the 130mm from the Gremyashchiy, are you better of shoting AP or HE at destroyers ? I finaly unlocked the turret turn speed upgrade and captain turn speed skill and can actualy use the guns now. It seems I can get some nice hits on big ships with AP but on destroyers I deal ridiculous damages.
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May 5, 2015 15:16
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Magni posted:How To Nagato: This. I have seriously killed an entire Kongo from full health with Nagato secondaries while I mindlessly shot something else. And if a destroyer comes within 7.5km? Dead DD.
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May 5, 2015 15:56
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Interestingly, I had the oddest luck with an auto-torpedo drop last night; and/or the dumbest DD driver ever. Was trying to desperately maneuver, both to avoid some dropped torpedoes(mostly successful) as well as get out of LoS of multiple enemy BBs ahead(failed) while also managing my squadrons, so I was flipping back and forth between hotkeys. Accidentally pressed Shift while I had a torpedo squadron selected, which screwed up my whole viewpoint and I was stressing a bit trying to get out of it and back into overhead view. Finally did and was trying to give reorient and give attack orders to that squadron as well as get my second torpedo squadron in the air, when I noticed my previous one was empty. I had apparently accidentally given attack orders on the DD for my active torpedo bomber squadron, and I never noticed - until I suddenly got the "Torpedo Hit" and "Ship Sunk" notifications. Of course we still lost because I was the last one alive because the team had completely folded and I was well within firing range of multiple ships, but that was still amusing.
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May 5, 2015 16:17
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Kesper North posted:This. I have seriously killed an entire Kongo from full health with Nagato secondaries while I mindlessly shot something else. And if a destroyer comes within 7.5km? Dead DD. Absolutely. I've killed half a dozen US DD's doing precisely this. They can't even fire their torpedoes as they're getting pummeled with secondary broadsides.
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May 5, 2015 17:18
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Magni posted:How To Nagato: Done! Hail space satan.
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May 5, 2015 17:26
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grrarg posted:Torp them anyway, if you are not already. Watching the chat explosion will magically cure your frustration. You should see the chat porn you get when you warn them that any BB in ABC or HIJ lines are fair game.
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May 5, 2015 18:52
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This is not a complaint but what the hell is it with people in these higher tier BB's just loving sitting there idle in open water at long range firing their guns? Over the last week almost every other match I can almost be guaranteed to find one or two doing this. Even after they are spotted and getting unloaded on they won't move.
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May 5, 2015 19:01
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Well, it's because pubbies are dumb. Duh. The only BB in which I wouldn't want to get closer right now is the Yamato and that's solely because of her bugged armor and turrets and the fact that she can murder stuff from farther out pretty darn well. Once she's getting her armor fixed in 0.3.1m I'll be taking that girl into the charge and may god have mercy on the poor bastards on the receiving end of that.
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May 5, 2015 19:06
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Has anyone tried running this in wine? It seems pretty cool but I don't want to have to restart my computer whenever I get in the mood to captain.
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May 5, 2015 19:08
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If anyone has a spare invite code available i'd appreciate it. Seems like a fun game I'd love to get involved with.
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May 5, 2015 20:38
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Sledge posted:If anyone has a spare invite code available i'd appreciate it. The invite well has really dried up since they opened up beta to people who buy preorder packages. That's honestly the best way to get one unless your time is literally worthless and you don't mind watching streams all day long hoping to win a key.
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May 5, 2015 20:47
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:The invite well has really dried up since they opened up beta to people who buy preorder packages. That's honestly the best way to get one unless your time is literally worthless and you don't mind watching streams all day long hoping to win a key. That's good to know, thanks.
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May 5, 2015 20:51
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Are any sites hosting replays yet? It would be fun to see some goon ones, and uploading a 2mb replay is a lot less  than fooling with capturing video for a stream or Youtube.
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May 5, 2015 20:59
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demonR6 posted:This is not a complaint but what the hell is it with people in these higher tier BB's just loving sitting there idle in open water at long range firing their guns? Over the last week almost every other match I can almost be guaranteed to find one or two doing this. Even after they are spotted and getting unloaded on they won't move. For obvious reasons I love these guys when I play as CV. Unfortunately this works both ways and yesterday I lost a 19 torp/5 bomb hits game thanks to the 2 BB (one of them a Yamato)on my team being scared of 3 lower tier cruisers and refusing to advance.  203 in a Yamato, and no CV on the other side, how is this possible 
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May 5, 2015 21:40
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Hammerstein posted:For obvious reasons I love these guys when I play as CV. Only way I could ever imagine getting that score would be if I was mega-trolled by the speedboat early on. But then I'd obviously not be alive by the end of the match...
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May 5, 2015 21:51
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Since I've unlocked the Clevland, twice I've been matched with tier VIII and IX ships. Those games were terrible, everybody was sitting as far away from the frontline and trying to shoot eachother. Even the destroyers were just running circle and spamming torpedoes at 15km. Is it always like this ?
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May 5, 2015 22:08
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How do you check the range of your secondaries? Also the Kitakami. About 3/4 of the games you play you will die terribly, but oh boy, goes that last 1/4 make up for it. Just watching ships go into panic mode as 20 torps suddenly appear all over the map is amazing. Especially if you then get chance to haul a 180 and unload all the other side...
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May 5, 2015 22:22
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Mouse over the weapons in the main menu with relevant ship selected, you need to expand the artillery folder on the right of the screen.
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May 5, 2015 22:28
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Hammerstein posted:203 in a Yamato, and no CV on the other side, how is this possible B-but that Atlanta shoots so fast. 
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May 5, 2015 22:31
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The reason I asked about replay hosting sites earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcK7ZgL_N78 That poor Kawachi. If I did not get him, the bombers would have. If they did not, the destroyer to the northwest probably would have.  
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May 5, 2015 23:16
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Burt posted:How do you check the range of your secondaries? Torpedos in chokepoints in general can yield hilarious results. Had a Fubuki game on Arctic starting west where I sprinted to the entrance of sort towards the C cap on the enemy side after their cruisers lemming-trained into the middle or to D. Just in time for all four BBs on their team to have slowly wandered up the map and all travel through the chokepoint. Nine torps went in, only one hit. And the resulting mass panic trainwreck was glorious. One guy swarved out and was ttravelling the long way around for the enxt three mintues, two ran into icebergs and the last one evaded the chokepoint towards the middle, which left him alone in range of the entire battleline on my team.
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May 5, 2015 23:50
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A draw ? What is this ? I don't even....
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May 6, 2015 00:21
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Heh, a pubbie spent half the match yelling at me for going up the left side behind a big island. Then I got three kills and won the match. (He specifically said I'd be useless and there would be nothing there to kill.)
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May 6, 2015 00:27
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Kesper North posted:Heh, a pubbie spent half the match yelling at me for going up the left side behind a big island. Then I got three kills and won the match. (He specifically said I'd be useless and there would be nothing there to kill.) Never let other players try and dictate where you go while playing a carrier. Most of them don't know any better and have never even played one. In the same match, someone will be bitching that you're not hanging far back enough, while someone else will bitch that you need to be closer. Go where you think you need to be. While they're busy trying to snipe from the max range their BB allows, you are the one watching the whole map and seeing the big picture. If you think you'll be safe behind an island closer to the action, then go there.
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May 6, 2015 00:32
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Magni posted:How To Nagato: You turn slightly faster than a fuso, with the same sized turning circle and any attempt to get close can and will end with you getting blown to bits as everyone is using the aiming mod. The Nagato's secondary armament is broadly comparable to the Fuso's while it's lacking the two extra turrets for those all important citadel hits and finally, declaring a ship "good" only when you can get a lvl 4 skill on it seems silly at best. Basically? Those tactics work just as well for the Fuso as they do the Nagato while the Fuso has better long range firepower, more chance of killing things close in and far more generous match making.
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May 6, 2015 00:47
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Dalael posted:Never let other players try and dictate where you go while playing a carrier. Most of them don't know any better and have never even played one. In the same match, someone will be bitching that you're not hanging far back enough, while someone else will bitch that you need to be closer. I was in a Fuso  Most of what I killed was at long range. Fuso so good.
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May 6, 2015 00:59
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I do sort of wish that instead of a health bar and repair button, your ship had a 'crew health' meter and a structural integrity bar. If either hits zero, the ship's 'dead,' just like WoT with hull death and crew death. The higher the crew meter, the faster things are repaired, fires are put out, shells are reloaded, shots are fired, etc. Conversely, the lower it is, the less effective the ship is at pumping out DPS. It'd certainly make flooding and fires more harrowing. Tie the crews in with the captain, and add a 'veterancy' rating to them that'll make them stack with the captain's skills and be more resilient.
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May 6, 2015 00:59
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Would be a fair buff to HE.
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May 6, 2015 01:02
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Kesper North posted:I was in a Fuso drat. I was under the impression you were in a carrier.. So what did you do? Hide an island, or go in one of those channels where you have no place to manoeuver? Cuz thats risky man.
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Dalael posted:drat. I was under the impression you were in a carrier.. Went behind a bigass island, far enough away that i could shoot over most of it, took a few of them down to half-HP, then popped up behind them while the main group engaged from the other side and nuked 'em while they were distracted. Caught the enemy CV, too.
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May 6, 2015 01:43
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Turns out the Fuso is not such a great brawler. I tried the secondaries mods with rudder and .. it did not go so well. I pretty much got bitch slapped. Back to sniping!
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The Steering Gear mod is pretty much the best choice on any BB anyway, no matter what you wanna do. Torpedos and skycancer alone already account for that.Blinks77 posted:You turn slightly faster than a fuso, with the same sized turning circle and any attempt to get close can and will end with you getting blown to bits as everyone is using the aiming mod. The Nagato's secondary armament is broadly comparable to the Fuso's while it's lacking the two extra turrets for those all important citadel hits and finally, declaring a ship "good" only when you can get a lvl 4 skill on it seems silly at best. Nagato's got the flat-out fastest rudder shift of the entire line (except for Kawachi of all things) with the hull upgrade. And her armoring scheme combined with proper angling make her eat incoming fire and not give a gently caress. Her secondaries are absolutely *not* comparable with Fuso between the extra stock range and the additional 5.5-inchers and their placement. Even before any upgrades, she can hammer out as much secondary fire into her forward 45° angle as the entire broadside of the Fuso and at logner range. And the upgrades are percentage-based, so using them on both ships only *widens* the gap. Advanced Firing Training is not what makes the Nagato a good brawler, it's what turns her from an already beastly brawler into a loving monster that is a living nightmare for destroyers and eats cruisers with the secondary battery alone. And by the time you've been grinding a captain through the ships before her, you should be about to have 10 skillpoints on him anyway and AFT is the go-to choice at tier 4 for BB captain skills in general. And no, those tactics do not work nearly as well for the Fuso. She turns considerably worse, she takes hits worse, she has a substantially weaker secondary battery (which in combination with the bad turning makes her a torp magnet), the 14-inchers even with more barrels tend to not punch as hard at short range and she cannot properly mask and unmaks her guns between reloads on the approach without either not using half her turrets or showing enough of a side aspect to invite citadel hits each time she tries using all 12 guns. In a direct brawl against a Nagato, she will either eat citadel hits while the Nagato doesn't or fight with 6 14-inchers against 8 16-inchers and a stronger and longer-ranged secondary battery on top of being less capable of tanking non-citadel hits. And she can't even run away because the Nagato is both faster and more maneuverable. Magni fucked around with this message at 02:33 on May 6, 2015 |
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