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JediTalentAgent posted:Another example: Mid-90s. Commercials for Lucent Technologies. Lucent merged with Alcatel back in 2006. They make ISP-grade network equipment in addition to running Bell Labs.  Looks like Nokia bought 'em last month, as well.
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JediTalentAgent posted:Oddly enough, in retrospect the sort of stuff people recorded off TV back in the 80s and 90s onto VHS that is probably worth keeping is the stuff that they worked hard to keep from saving in the first place: Old commercials. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oemoqEuJdFE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6wFr2SHsmY
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May 10, 2015 21:26
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Way too much industrial and scientific equipment uses RS232 for it to be depreciated in any anything less than ten years from now. I think I mentioned it in this thread before, but also medical equipment.
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May 10, 2015 21:44
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Way too much industrial and scientific equipment uses RS232 for it to be depreciated in any anything less than ten years from now. That's very optimistic. I had to write some RS232 driver code just a few months ago. 
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May 10, 2015 22:01
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Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oemoqEuJdFE I went through the 80's one and you can feel the moment Nutrasweet was demonized.
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May 10, 2015 22:23
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Jonathan Yeah! posted:Only people trapped in an endless hell still use ISA and RS232, and I don't think it's worth making their lives any better If you've stayed at a hotel and used the phone or TV system, the transaction went through an RS232 connection somewhere. In that industry at least, it's going nowhere
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May 10, 2015 22:32
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There's nothing at all wrong with RS232. It's simple and easy to program for even in barebones C or assembly, you can do it with barely any code at all. The data structure is straight-forward and it's cheap to implement. It may not have any fancy bells or whistles, but when you need a simple serial interface, it's there for you.
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May 10, 2015 22:36
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Zopotantor posted:That's very optimistic. I had to write some RS232 driver code just a few months ago. Me too, well I'm about to. There just isn't any other good way to programmatically control power supplies and crap like that in a lab environment.
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May 10, 2015 22:58
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JediTalentAgent posted:Oddly enough, in retrospect the sort of stuff people recorded off TV back in the 80s and 90s onto VHS that is probably worth keeping is the stuff that they worked hard to keep from saving in the first place: Old commercials. After going through dozens and dozens of tapes, I found that this was the only commercial I saved: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIIU2JvoMX4
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May 10, 2015 23:18
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I used to be a video editor for a fairly large production company. We numbered our tapes manually with pen hoping that what we saw at the end of the shelf was the last tape EVER. This of course led to many XXXXa and XXXXb numbering. Before I left he company I was given the task of reorgansing that shitfight. Nope. The numerous efforts I undertook in digitizing and cataloging was a nightmare. Let alone the bosses idea of keeping Timecodes. Grrr!
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May 11, 2015 12:27
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Apparently, ancient versions of AOL still sort of work on modern systems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA1tLxfdif4 Most of the old content has been taken down, but there's still plenty of creepy chatrooms you can check out!
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KozmoNaut posted:There's nothing at all wrong with RS232. It's simple and easy to program for even in barebones C or assembly, you can do it with barely any code at all. The data structure is straight-forward and it's cheap to implement. The biggest problem I had with was trying to use a modern laptop to connect to them. No serial ports on anything made in the last 7 or so years, and RS232 to USB converts were hit and miss for me...and then of course the first time I had to use one to connect to a Win 7 machine, I didn't know that there was no more Hyperterminal. I tried to download PuTTY, but the tiny, rinky-dink hospital I was at had no wifi...I tried to just plug my laptop into an ethernet port, but that was a no-go because of their in-house security settings, and their "IT department" (like, two people...seriously small hospital) was leery to give me access. Oh, and I was in the middle of their OR working on an anesthesia machine. I ended up having to stop in the middle of the service, change back into street clothes and leave the hospital, drive 10 minutes into town to get to a McDonald's, and download PuTTY on their wifi. The hospital was so remote I didn't even have enough cell signal to tether my phone.
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Doc Morbid posted:Apparently, ancient versions of AOL still sort of work on modern systems: This gets really funny at around 7 minutes in as he discovers chat then gets a private message
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DrBouvenstein posted:I ended up having to stop in the middle of the service, change back into street clothes and leave the hospital, drive 10 minutes into town to get to a McDonald's, and download PuTTY on their wifi. Putty (and all its extras), PStools, Process Monitor, Process Explorer, unxUtils, Chrome Portable, Notepad2, WinSCP, ArrangeByPenis, etc.
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May 11, 2015 14:37
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DrBouvenstein posted:The biggest problem I had with was trying to use a modern laptop to connect to them. About the only things I have with rs232 ports are old slot 1 or sktA desktops in pieces. I'm not even sure if my s939 system has rs232, and that's the oldest system I have still powered up and running. E: I'm going to need a serial connection for some old automotive haltech EFI system. Fo3 has a new favorite as of 14:56 on May 11, 2015 |
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It honestly amazes me that USB-RS232 dongles are so hit or miss. It's a loving UART on a USB device controller, like, holy drat. Is there not a company out there that knows how a UART works?
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Fo3 posted:I've heard that USB-RS232 are hit and miss, but has anyone had better luck with express-card to RS232 adaptors? Most RS-232/USB Converters work just fine nowadays. There were more issues in the past, due to sketchy Chinese hardware and/or bad drivers, so it wasn't uncommon for them to fail after a few hours, or to cause random BSODs.
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Fo3 posted:I've heard that USB-RS232 are hit and miss, but has anyone had better luck with express-card to RS232 adaptors? Most modern motherboards still have serial and parallel ports on them, but as internal pin headers that need breakout brackets.
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Kazinsal posted:It honestly amazes me that USB-RS232 dongles are so hit or miss. It's a loving UART on a USB device controller, like, holy drat. Is there not a company out there that knows how a UART works? A company called FTDI makes rock-solid converters, for example, but most people buy the top item on Amazon (the cheapest) or whatever garbage that some office supply store carries. There are also huge markets for counterfeits from China (people recently got mad at FDTI for releasing a new driver that bricked all of the counterfeit devices that stole their design).
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Collateral Damage posted:It's a lesson to always carry a USB stick with all the little pieces of software you need to any remote job you go to. ArrangeByPenis I get the reference, but there isn't really a tool by this name, is there?
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Lowen SoDium posted:ArrangeByPenis Oh yes, there is, and it does exactly what you think  I've got ArrangeByPenis.rar right here, including source code. You want it?
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Slanderer posted:There are also huge markets for counterfeits from China (people recently got mad at FDTI for releasing a new driver that bricked all of the counterfeit devices that stole their design). Didn't they update the Windows drivers on Update so it would brick them without any user actions. fake edit: oh yes: quote:Chipmaker FTDI has pulled a driver from Windows Update that could brick devices containing knockoff versions of its USB-to-serial bridge chips, but says it won't back down on its aggressive anti-counterfeiting stance.
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Yeah I just read this article about it and... Holy poo poo, I get wanting to protect your IP but intentionally bricking the end user's hardware when they have literally no way of knowing if their device was counterfeit? That's.... A little extreme
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"We have just massively inconvenienced you. Please buy (authentic versions of) our products!"Collateral Damage posted:ArrangeByPenis
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robodex posted:Yeah I just read this article about it and... Holy poo poo, I get wanting to protect your IP but intentionally bricking the end user's hardware when they have literally no way of knowing if their device was counterfeit? That's.... A little extreme Can you submit any dicey driver to Win update then? Does MS not vet this stuff? In an extreme example, couldn't a rival release a malicious update to another manufacturers devices?
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KozmoNaut posted:Oh yes, there is, and it does exactly what you think Please? I was wondering how it worked a few days back, so this would be ace. 
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robodex posted:Yeah I just read this article about it and... Holy poo poo, I get wanting to protect your IP but intentionally bricking the end user's hardware when they have literally no way of knowing if their device was counterfeit? That's.... A little extreme While cloning IC functionality has a long tradition, once people are cloning your stuff, putting your name on it and using your driver it has gotten out of hand. As far as I'm aware, this mostly affected Arduino knockoffs, so haha who cares Jonathan Yeah! posted:Can you submit any dicey driver to Win update then? Does MS not vet this stuff? In an extreme example, couldn't a rival release a malicious update to another manufacturers devices? Nope. The driver is provided by the company FTDI, signed by MS, and is supposed to apply to FTDI's products (tied to the VID and PID assigned to FTDI). It isn't illegal to use another company's VID to clone their device, but the usb implementers forum can sue if you do so while displaying a USB logo, and FTDI can theoretically sue for the infringement (but harder to do, because lol China). But similarly, it probably also isn't illegal to do stuff like this to prevent clones that use your VID and PIDs. Slanderer has a new favorite as of 17:30 on May 11, 2015 |
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Jonathan Yeah! posted:Can you submit any dicey driver to Win update then? Does MS not vet this stuff? In an extreme example, couldn't a rival release a malicious update to another manufacturers devices? I don't think a rival can release an update to someone else's stuff, I think the reason this was able to happen was the fake hardware used official drivers so they were able to do it.
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HardDisk posted:Please?
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Mister Kingdom posted:After going through dozens and dozens of tapes, I found that this was the only commercial I saved: Holy poo poo I remember this. I'm glad YouTube exists, so I can confirm this commercial was real and not just a bizarre hallucination I had when I was 9 or 10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdQiSGb4Luw Also, to this day I despise the Payday song because I'd hear it every single commercial break on MST3k's midnight airing and USA Up All Night. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1y9OHh-N8s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6dFT06r9v4 WHY IS IT A YETI/ORANGUTAN THING.
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JediTalentAgent posted:Oddly enough, in retrospect the sort of stuff people recorded off TV back in the 80s and 90s onto VHS that is probably worth keeping is the stuff that they worked hard to keep from saving in the first place: Old commercials. Yeah I used to hate the commercials that got recorded on VHS tapes but now those are all gems. There's a few commercials in particular I remember from the early 90s that are just so far removed from anything you'd see on television these days, its crazy how much our culture has changed in such a short time.
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KozmoNaut posted:I wonder if he ever actually watched any of those tapes, or if he just liked being a This is essential what happened to me eventually when my hard-drive space was outpacing my music collection, I switched to spotify because of this and started listening to music again.
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HardDisk posted:Yeah, apparently this is empty It's called a refractory period.
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Stick Insect posted:https://mega.co.nz/#!cJxyWZRQ!g-TtDEZYymYoq1UWMQ0YcKYr5s9AbMnzeImPeW0-_8k The MD5 hash matches the one I have, I guess there probably only ever was that one version.
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DrBouvenstein posted:The biggest problem I had with was trying to use a modern laptop to connect to them.
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IndustrialApe posted:This is essential what happened to me eventually when my hard-drive space was outpacing my music collection, I switched to spotify because of this and started listening to music again.
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