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FYI, any new employers won't give a poo poo about that dude's opinion, just leave.
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How would he even know where you were going to work, anyway? "May we contact your last employer" "No."
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:03 |
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This guy doesn't sound like someone who can even hold it together while giving a bad reference, so it might be worth it to let your new job prospects know in advance what he's going to say and let him foam and make himself look like the batshit crazy you've already painted him to be. I'd let him do this a few times, then bring up a lawsuit with my state's labor bureau to drive the nail deeper, but I can be a spiteful gently caress with irredeemable people.
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:09 |
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insidius posted:poo poo Get your meds fixed and get your Aussie rear end out of there.
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:17 |
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I think it's pretty obvious at this point that if you didn't show up, he's going to leave you a batshit crazy email which would be perfectly good enough proof to anyone involved that it was an abusive environment. You also seem like you would have a pretty good case for short term disability benefits if you can't get unemployment. I think I would start out with sick days, seek professional help during that time, and then get on short term disability for depression issues stemming from work load. While you are sorting that out, get a new job and never look back.
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# ? May 11, 2015 23:26 |
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Vulture Culture posted:This guy doesn't sound like someone who can even hold it together while giving a bad reference, so it might be worth it to let your new job prospects know in advance what he's going to say and let him foam and make himself look like the batshit crazy you've already painted him to be. Yeah I can't possibly see how this guy would be able to give a bad reference in a professional manner that would be taken seriously by any prospective employer, assuming the guy somehow got contacted in the first place.
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# ? May 12, 2015 00:58 |
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Good lord. I almost can't believe all of that is true. Talk about Stockholm Syndrom. Echoing everyone else, don't give notice just get out and find a new job. With the experience that you've mentioned you'll have no problem finding another job.
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# ? May 12, 2015 01:40 |
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I went from literally hand picking garbage to full domain admin over the weekend. I already hate Lotus notes 7. Also pick up your stuff up tomorrow morning and then leave and don't go back.
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# ? May 12, 2015 01:46 |
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First of all, thank you for sharing. I hope that you are able to take some of the advice coming your way. You want to quit; why even go in tomorrow? The worst that can happen is the dude fires you, and then you're exactly where you want to be. Goodvibes man, you'll land on your feet!
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# ? May 12, 2015 01:49 |
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Methanar posted:I went from literally hand picking garbage to full domain admin over the weekend. Lotus Notes 7? You're joking, right?
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# ? May 12, 2015 01:53 |
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Sometimes work makes me tired, such is life.
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insidius posted:My coworker who managed to escape makes the argument that I suffer from two things. "Boiling Frog" syndrome, where it just took me in so gradually that I was unable to see how bad it truly was, despite the multitude of people who did their best to help me to come to this realisation. Ironically it seemed that the worse it got, the harder I worked, the more hours I did, the more I allowed it to consume me. At its peak when I could no longer see myself having the the intelligence required to end this, it seemed the only logical conclusion. Keep myself too busy to even think about how busy I was and hopefully I would just eventually stroke out at some point and that would be that.
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# ? May 12, 2015 01:55 |
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insidius posted:Have to fight the urge to tell this guy to loving blow me. You don't need to fight it.
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# ? May 12, 2015 01:57 |
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Methanar posted:I went from literally hand picking garbage to full domain admin over the weekend. That Linux server with a China login is a hobby server, right?
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Dick Trauma posted:You don't need to fight it. You are correct. insidius fucked around with this message at 03:58 on May 15, 2015 |
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Internet Explorer posted:Lotus Notes 7? Nope. I made 3 new accounts today for it and it was awful. It can't even route mail across the internet; LAN only. My raspberrypi email server is more capable than that, easier to use too. For some reason this place has zero vlans and two subnets, but has 3 huge rear end l3 switches from the early 2000s for all their networking. e; Yeah, that was my raspberrypi.
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insidius posted:I have already given my notice, I have a reference from the previous CEO and CTO so I am covered on that front as well. I also have over four months of accrued annual leave so if I lose the two weeks of pay by choosing Do not saying anything rude or tell this guy off. Be professional and just walk out. Don't give him any ammo.
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Methanar posted:to full domain admin edit: holy hell, it's five humans plus two service accounts.
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adorai posted:Is this common? I think we have 4 domain admins in my 800 person company, and it's probably too many at that number. Technically it is best for all domain admin accounts to be service accounts in a sense. I have always made domain admin accounts different from the regular user account for all the admins. That way virus infections and other exploits don't instantly grant access to everything. Maybe that is wrong though.
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# ? May 12, 2015 02:26 |
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If you're really worried about him screwing with your career, you can probably get help from a lawyer. Contact your state bar for a referral. If he is crossing the line into slander, a lawyer will help you.
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Sickening posted:Technically it is best for all domain admin accounts to be service accounts in a sense. I have always made domain admin accounts different from the regular user account for all the admins. That way virus infections and other exploits don't instantly grant access to everything. Maybe that is wrong though. 1) normal account for email and web access 2) workstation admin account for helpdesk type tasks. Never logs into any server. 3) a server admin account, never logs into a domain controller or into a workstation that a workstation admin account could log into 4) a domain admin account, never logs into anything other than a domain controller We've read too much on Pass the Hash attacks and are now paranoid.
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# ? May 12, 2015 02:30 |
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insidius posted:stuff How you got into this really doesn't matter, only getting out does. You'll very quickly start to feel better once you realise you never have to see him ever again. There is nothing stupid about you, this situation happens to a lot of people, you want to be nice and helpful, and a psychopath took advantage of you. Once you're out, it'll feel so much better.
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# ? May 12, 2015 02:52 |
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Kyth posted:Microsoft stopped doing it. Publicy, it's gone but their new review system is rather eerily familiar and the culture said to exist. Vulture Culture posted:It's interesting to note that while the Amazon mothership still extensively uses stack ranking, Zappos just switched to Holacracy, a system of self-organization with no managers. Is this kind of like Valve? On another note how the hell does Zappo's even exist? If anything, I find Google's review system the best by far as it strongly enforces the "Don't be an rear end in a top hat" rule. Insidius posted:"I will loving destroy your career. Ill black ball you, ill prevent you from ever working another job in this industry for so long as you live." Nobody is that powerful. I've seen people leave customers in outages and yet they're still employed by someone else. Granted, it can be a small world but no matter what anyone tells you IT is a gigantic industry and unless you're making an outage the size of the one that happened to San Francisco you'll find a job. Granted, it might not be the ideal dream job you want but it's nothing worth losing sleep over. Last but not least your anxiety level is at 11 out of 10. Seek medical attention. When applying for other gigs don't drag your previous employer/supervisor through the muck just say you're looking for a position with more growth opportunities. Gucci Loafers fucked around with this message at 03:17 on May 12, 2015 |
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insidius, I don't know the law in your area, but if I was in your shoes, I would find out whether I can legally record my boss or not. If you can, start. You might benefit from having a record of that behavior some day.
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Tab8715 posted:Is this kind of like Valve? On another note how the hell does Zappo's even exist? You mean, how has it managed to continue existing as its own organization when Amazon is perfectly well-equipped to sell shoes through amazon.com? Because they have the common sense not to ruin a good thing that's working for them.
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Tab8715 posted:Is this kind of like Valve? On another note how the hell does Zappo's even exist? Zappos just announced that anyone who wants to leave because of the new management style can leave with a serverance package. http://www.cnbc.com/id/102667440 14% of the company has left so far. So who knows how long Zappos will be allowed to exist before Amazon says "fuckit" and fully absorbs it?
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# ? May 12, 2015 03:11 |
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insidius posted:Outside of that, I must thank you all. It is very rare for me to ever discuss my work in this manner, to anyone. Not to my girlfriend and not even really with my friends. This felt like my burden to carry, not something to place on the shoulders of others who had no part in it. I'm going to repeat my advice to you to seek professional therapy. Feeling like you should deal with your own problems is normal, but you just typed up a page of text talking about your impostor syndrome (that's what they call it when you think you aren't good enough to be doing a thing even though you're doing it and have been doing it and getting paid for it). You clearly have no perspective or self-confidence, and that's because you've been emotionally abused and manipulated by a sociopath for years. You don't walk off a broken arm, you go see a goddamn doctor. You shouldn't expect yourself to just get over the mental damage you have, either. Talk to someone whose job it is to help people like you heal.
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# ? May 12, 2015 03:12 |
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Seriously there is no need to ever speak to him again. Get your stuff and out the door. If he wants to talk later he can speak with your attorney.
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# ? May 12, 2015 03:13 |
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Just moonwalk out of there with your shades on while your boss screams impotently into the black nothingness You'll get another job with salary actually commensurate to your skills and you'll also be a full inch taller
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# ? May 12, 2015 03:22 |
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Oh, look, the doctor said you'll be out until your quit date on the Aussie version of FMLA. Tell your doctor where the stress is coming from, you'll have a note and possibly a referral to a good employment lawyer.
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Repeat: Finding and effectively using documentation is a strong and rare skill. Nobody knows everything all the time. Everybody in a knowledge job needs to look things up all the time.
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meanieface posted:Oh, look, the doctor said you'll be out until your quit date on the Aussie version of FMLA. Tell your doctor where the stress is coming from, you'll have a note and possibly a referral to a good employment lawyer. I missed the bit where Insidius was Australian. This is real simple. go to the doc and tell him what you told us. he will refer you to a psycologist. Workcover (or whatever it is called in your state) pay's for the lot, if not medicare will. the outcome of the workcover investigation will inform your next steps. If you get any grief or agro of any sort your next call is to the industrial relations tribunal.
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KennyTheFish posted:I missed the bit where Insidius was Australian. Holy poo poo dude, you work in a country where employees have Real Rights (TM)? I thought you were another downtrodden Amurrican in a right to get fired state. You have even more reason to just quietly ignore anything and everything this psycho says to you, serve your given notice, and walk out without so much as documenting anything. And as Che says, look into getting some help and counselling - you've gone through a traumatic event, or rather a traumatic nine years, and you need to talk to someone who can guide you through getting over that trauma and moving on in a healthy way. I have luckily never had to deal with assholes like this, and although of course I imagine I wouldn't stand for it, I think the boiling frog syndrome does play a part and any one of us could fall victim over time (and there's something to be said for human submission to perceived authority, similar to what the Milgram and Stanford Prison Experiments found). And yeah, no one can remember everything all the time and you should never think that you are bad at your job for having to look something specific up.
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insidius posted:Outside of that, I must thank you all. It is very rare for me to ever discuss my work in this manner, to anyone. Not to my girlfriend and not even really with my friends. This felt like my burden to carry, not something to place on the shoulders of others who had no part in it. This is one of the reasons your anxiety level is so high. Bottling up your feelings and stress is never a good thing to do, it will just eat you up, which I think you're now coming to realise. Sharing feelings with people who care about you isn't burdening them. Talk with your girlfriend, your family, or find a therapist you can begin to see regularly. Venting on SA is something we all do but it should not be used as a substitution for professional help.
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# ? May 12, 2015 12:08 |
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insidius posted:sad story Mirroring what everyone has said. Plus the fact that you should not ever call him a gentleman ever again. He's clearly a madman and a sociopath.
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Potato Alley posted:Holy poo poo dude, you work in a country where employees have Real Rights (TM)? I thought you were another downtrodden Amurrican in a right to get fired state.. TBH, it cuts both ways. While your employer in the States can fire you at any time, you can also walk out of the door at any time without notice and they can't do anything about it. Employers oftentimes attempt to prevent this with noncompete clauses, but those are rarely if ever upheld unless the person is a senior-level manager, and even then if you're at that level you probably have severance lined up. The fact of the matter is that most people become conditioned to think they have no option. That's far from the case, especially in IT where demand for labor is insanely high.
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# ? May 12, 2015 14:31 |
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I think I should reevaluate my career choices: signed in for a new company, now all they dump on me are maintenance projects from early aughties. What I'm learning is not to cry whenever I open a new project and find 10 separate projects sharing the same class implementation, i.e. copy pasted all around For insidious, tell your colleague to eff off, backup the emails, and just resign somewhat quietly, or with the help of a boombox Honest Thief fucked around with this message at 14:43 on May 12, 2015 |
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insidius posted:I am taking a short break before going in, just to try and relax a bit. Have to fight the urge to tell this guy to loving blow me. I consider myself a pretty hold-back-the-anger professional guy in terms of workplaces, and I say this after calmly analyzing the pros/cons: don't fight the urge. Just bail. Worry about HR later. If you're in or near Brisbane just walk around the CBD for the day. Feed some ibis. Get a quick cheap lunch at Satay Club Noodle House, poo poo's amazing.
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I should make better life decisions.
insidius fucked around with this message at 03:58 on May 15, 2015 |
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insidius posted:I am stuck in a well. Keep digging.
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