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MC Fruit Stripe posted:This topic has run its course, on to the next thing. Yes, that checkbox is really, really helpful even if the material to get the box is not and it costs a ton of dollars. Just go to a local community college to get your associate's degree and finish at a state or other low-cost institution just to have it.
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But the thing is I'm like really smart, you guys don't even know, my cousin is in MENSA and he comes to me for advice. I can see any two numbers and tell you what language they're in.
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May 12, 2015 17:12
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:This topic has run its course, on to the next thing. You need the right research material to make this decision. 
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May 12, 2015 17:13
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CLAM DOWN posted:gently caress you, what the gently caress is this poo poo. He is literally an abuse victim. People who are abused are not at fault for being abused, and they are not idiots and not doing anything wrong. There is some serious medical and psychological poo poo going on that he needs professional help with and should do that, but it's not as easy as telling someone to "just leave". You don't tell abuse victims that they're "loving idiots", jesus goddamn christ. Gotta agree with this. Typically like your posts Sickening, but the dude's leaving his job, just not as quickly as you'd like, and has mentioned suicide as an actual thing that he's thought about. Telling anyone they deserve calculated emotional abuse is pretty hosed up.
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May 12, 2015 17:15
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Dick Trauma posted:You need the right research material to make this decision. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy_VzDlSies
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May 12, 2015 17:22
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Counterpoint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dtq9ak_iBbQ True and unfortunate story, I can't say "I can't believe it" around my wife without finishing the line.
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May 12, 2015 17:23
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:This topic has run its course, on to the next thing. Absolutely, you don't know enough about beer and it's a great place to study the juice of life.
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May 12, 2015 17:31
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Related; I work for a university and can take for-credit courses at about $100 per hour. But I have almost no interest in taking any more courses - I already have a (almost useless) master's degree and feel like I've had enough college for a while.
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May 12, 2015 17:33
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CLAM DOWN posted:gently caress you, what the gently caress is this poo poo. He is literally an abuse victim. People who are abused are not at fault for being abused, and they are not idiots and not doing anything wrong. There is some serious medical and psychological poo poo going on that he needs professional help with and should do that, but it's not as easy as telling someone to "just leave". You don't tell abuse victims that they're "loving idiots", jesus goddamn christ. I called this person and idiot because they are an idiot. People have been plenty patient and have given out well thought out advice. There is a point where coddling obviously isn't the answer and this is getting there fast. I mean jesus christ, this is dilbert level of dumb right here. It is to the point where this person should just post to E/N and get it over with. Sickening fucked around with this message at 17:43 on May 12, 2015 |
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May 12, 2015 17:41
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I hope that guy quit his job because with ten years experience he probably deserves a raise anyway.
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May 12, 2015 17:47
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Disregard, somehow double posted.
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May 12, 2015 18:11
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Sickening posted:I called this person and idiot because they are an idiot. People have been plenty patient and have given out well thought out advice. There is a point where coddling obviously isn't the answer and this is getting there fast. I mean jesus christ, this is dilbert level of dumb right here. 
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May 12, 2015 18:16
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I work in IT. My coworker does too. He likes to turn features on on the servers just because they're there. I literally want to put his head through a wall when he's got some feature enabled that we don't need that's causing problems. Latest problem : We have two RDP servers, one of which is having write access problems. He turned on brokering to split the load between the two servers. Nobody knows why he did it, he was never told to do it, he never asked if he should do it, he just turned it on. I have been setting up all of the systems to connect to the second server, the server which has been working fine. Suddenly we're seeing a huge barrage of tickets saying "MY SYSTEM IS FREEZING UP CONSTANTLY" and "Suddenly all my printers are gone" (Since the first was not meant to be used until we fix the problems with it we never set up printers there) and all sorts of other issues. I try to remote in to the server to see what's going on and suddenly start getting all kinds of RDP errors "The server you're connecting to differs from the one you specified" and all sorts of other weird messages. Best part is he turned brokering on literally 15 minutes before he left for the day, leaving the rest of us to clean up the horrible mess.
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May 12, 2015 18:24
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khy posted:Best part is he turned brokering on literally 15 minutes before he left for the day, leaving the rest of us to clean up the horrible mess. "Please describe your change management policies and procedures." "YOLO!!!!11"
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May 12, 2015 18:27
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Docjowles posted:"Please describe your change management policies and procedures." I think you mean "embrace agile devops methodologies and strive to fail fast with continuous delivery in a dynamic, hands-on environment."
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Sickening posted:I called this person and idiot because they are an idiot. People have been plenty patient and have given out well thought out advice. There is a point where coddling obviously isn't the answer and this is getting there fast. I mean jesus christ, this is dilbert level of dumb right here. This is a fair point. insidius fucked around with this message at 03:59 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 12, 2015 18:53
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PCjr sidecar posted:I think you mean "embrace agile devops methodologies and strive to fail fast with continuous delivery in a dynamic, hands-on environment." Aargh gently caress you that's too close to home to be funny.
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May 12, 2015 18:56
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PCjr sidecar posted:I think you mean "embrace agile devops methodologies and strive to fail fast with continuous delivery in a dynamic, hands-on environment." I've had some really productive conversations recently about how [competent] DevOps and ITIL are rapidly converging on exactly the same place from different directions. But, then, we knew this was happening when the best ITIL book and the best DevOps book had the same authors' names on them. Docjowles posted:"Please describe your change management policies and procedures." Expecting inert documents to solve decision-making problems is even more unreasonable than expecting technology to solve decision-making problems. Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 19:35 on May 12, 2015 |
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May 12, 2015 19:25
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insidius posted:I had not intended to act like a jackass on purpose. I just had not obviously understood that I was still not drawing the line where it needed to be drawn. I was still taking on too much despite in my mind it being already greatly reduced from what I had initially planned. Much as I want to encourage you to make positive moves for your own accord, I move for mod challenge if he comes back saying he hasn't immediately quit. You are protected by law - not professional ethics or "industry self-regulation" - to get what you're owed, period. I do not know Australian law but you are legally protected from such actions that may be taken against you when you quit under duress.
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May 12, 2015 19:33
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MJP posted:I move for mod challenge if he comes back saying he hasn't immediately quit. Yes please Goon in the well gets old fast. Most of us are grown-rear end men and women in here, right?
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Actually, I think most of us are still growing (outward)  Does anyone have a recommendation for an AD tutorial? I'm fumbling around in it very slowly, and I want to get better at it. AD and PowerShell are my two biggest focuses while I'm in between semesters. 22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 19:45 on May 12, 2015 |
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May 12, 2015 19:42
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For Powershell, http://www.amazon.com/Learn-Windows-PowerShell-Month-Lunches/dp/1617291080 is a good book to use. Worked pretty well for me. I still have a lot to learn but it got me started!
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May 12, 2015 19:58
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Actually, I think most of us are still growing (outward) I got my "wow, holy poo poo, AD can do all this?" and otherwise by prepping for the MCSA. If the 70-411 (or is it 412?) isn't up your alley, Don Jones has been nothing but great in his Lunches series: http://morelunches.com/2013/12/09/learn-active-directory-management-in-a-month-of-lunches/ He did another Lunches book on Powershell, which is a wonderful and easy to use resource. As to insidius, I can defintely understand the abuse-victim mentality. I'm just thinking we need to get him the positive motivation he needs, and maybe a mod challenge would do it if our present attempts at doing motivaiton as such don't fit the bill.
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May 12, 2015 19:59
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Actually, I think most of us are still growing (outward) Build a lab with the 180 day trials and go hog wild. Set up some multisite stuff with the free Azure trial when you feel ready, use it as your internal DNS if you feel like it. Then try and configure a Windows desktop using nothing buy Group Policy. It's very powerful, but GP in particular gives you all the tools you need to very effectively shoot yourself in the foot.
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I got pinged by a corporate recruiter at Netflix yesterday for what looks like a dream job in the direction I've been wanting to go with my career. Bonus that it is obviously not in Chicago because I have been looking to GTFO of the midwest for a while. Just trying to drop some positive energy into the thread today. 
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Agrikk hit me up to see if I was interested in Amazon but I'm fairly certain that Amazon wouldn't be very interested in me. :-( Go for that Netflix goodness!
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Sickening posted:I called this person and idiot because they are an idiot. People have been plenty patient and have given out well thought out advice. There is a point where coddling obviously isn't the answer and this is getting there fast. I mean jesus christ, this is dilbert level of dumb right here. gently caress you. There's being DAF and then there's being snared in an abusive relationship (which this obviously is). I'll bet you blame battered spouses for being in the situation they're in as well when they can "just leave".
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flosofl posted:gently caress you. gently caress you. A battered spouce and this person are not even close to the same thing and you are a loving moron for even suggesting it. You have on one hand someone who is physically beaten by someone they love in their own home and on the other is employee that you cursed at. Talk about totally different end of spectrum. Jesus christ. Serious Hardware / Software Crap › Working in IT 3.0: gently caress You Sickening fucked around with this message at 20:36 on May 12, 2015 |
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May 12, 2015 20:32
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Thanks Ants posted:It's very powerful, but GP in particular gives you all the tools you need to very effectively shoot yourself in the foot. I like my coworker's summation of GP: "Group policy is great when it works and terrifying when it doesn't"
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Sickening posted:gently caress you. Emotional abuse is its own fairly insidious category but this is turning Tumblr pretty quickly. It's super late in Australia, so best we can hope for is that when he wakes up he posts about how great it was to have told these guys to 
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I'm not advocating abusing the poor guy any more than necessary, but seriously it's time to sac up and move on dude. Nthing the position that it should have been over the second your boss made those ridiculous threats. You're a grown man. Get all the references you can from that place and you can counter any smearing that guy can do to you. It sounds like you're valuable so there should be some people who will go to bat for you. And on the way out, leave an upper decker in each toilet. 
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Dark Helmut posted:And on the way out, leave an upper decker in each toilet. This is something the entire thread can get behind I am sure.
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mayodreams posted:I like my coworker's summation of GP: "Group policy is great when it works and terrifying when it doesn't" Group policy is a six-shooter loaded with seven foot-seeking bullets.
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Dark Helmut posted:And on the way out, leave an upper decker in each toilet.
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Dark Helmut posted:sac up That's what's up
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Aren't you supposed to drop one in your boss' potted plant or was that another thread?
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Apologies to interrupt the upper-decker talk (it's the right thing to do in this instance), but where do people stand on employers wanting guarantees of sticking around after doing vendor training courses (in this case a VCP)? I can sort of see this from both sides but I'm leaning in the direction of "training is an investment in your staff, if you're worried about them getting trained up and leaving then be a better employer". I've been handed an offer of the training paid for in work's time but with a proviso of if I leave after a year then I have to pay 50%, leave after two years then the 'debt' is written off. Before a year it's 100%. Ignoring the fact that if I leave I wouldn't be bothered about paying off the training because I would bring it up with the new employer or just deal with it because the salary was going up a huge amount, I think the timeframes are far too long compared to the cost of the courses and the recertification schedules. I'm inclined to push for oweing 100% up to 6 months after the exam, and then a sliding scale up to month 12. Potentially with a get-out clause whereby if I am shopped to a client for a project (we are an MSP) as a VCP and bring in £12k then they should write off the training 'debt' entirely. How do other places handle it? To make it clear these are certs that I've requested.
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Thanks Ants posted:Apologies to interrupt the upper-decker talk (it's the right thing to do in this instance), but where do people stand on employers wanting guarantees of sticking around after doing vendor training courses (in this case a VCP)? I can sort of see this from both sides but I'm leaning in the direction of "training is an investment in your staff, if you're worried about them getting trained up and leaving then be a better employer". I've been handed an offer of the training paid for in work's time but with a proviso of if I leave after a year then I have to pay 50%, leave after two years then the 'debt' is written off. Before a year it's 100%. Some places have a policy that if you leave prior to X months after receiving training you're on the hook for some/all of the costs.
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Thanks Ants posted:Apologies to interrupt the upper-decker talk (it's the right thing to do in this instance), but where do people stand on employers wanting guarantees of sticking around after doing vendor training courses (in this case a VCP)? I can sort of see this from both sides but I'm leaning in the direction of "training is an investment in your staff, if you're worried about them getting trained up and leaving then be a better employer". I've been handed an offer of the training paid for in work's time but with a proviso of if I leave after a year then I have to pay 50%, leave after two years then the 'debt' is written off. Before a year it's 100%. My place has a standard policy for training/certification/courses/etc that you request that if you leave within x amount of time, you're on the hook for x% of the costs. From talking to others in the industry in my area/country, it's pretty standard.
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Time for a derail! Not sure if it was in this thread or one of the others, but I mentioned that a week back I was interviewed for a Virtualization sysadmin position at Langley AFB in Virginia. I went in to see the PM today and he told me that they've only interview 2 of the 4 candidates, so it doesn't look like they're in all that much of a hurry to hire after all. Anyways I'm the current front-runner for the position as Candidate #2 was interviewed and put down a bunch of stuff on his resume that he hadn't actually used, saying "I'm not sure why I put those in there." PM was not a very happy camper, and feels that if that's the level of my competition for the position then I'm a shoe-in. Unfortunately, he also was told by corporate that they are probably going to try to get away with paying something close to what I already make. Add in no relocation assistance, as well as a 15% higher cost of living, and the job isn't looking so hot (even though it would give me the experience I need and want). Feeling quite bummed out about it, however I don't have the job yet so it's a bit premature to get all emo about it. Besides, I can negotiate and if corporate refuses to budge then I can walk away. I'll just go with Plan B in that case, which is to ride my current contract down in flames, which is supposed to end in August, but it's expected to get protested at least once, which pushes it into October, and THEN we start the 60 day turnover at that point, which might take us as far as December. Then I hop in my truck and head down south to Florida - Tampa is looking more and more appealing every day, and I've already spoken with a couple recruiters down there. Of course, that kinda sucks because I have to go back to weekend 3rd shift at the beginning of next month and swing shift every 3 months is a bitch. I'd prefer to just punch out now, but there's no one hiring in the area (or at least, they're not talking to me). Oh well, back to studying - taking my VCP5 exam on Friday. Wish me luck!
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