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Muppets! Muppets! Muppets! Really looking forward to it. I had high hopes for Dr. Ken, but that trailer looked awful.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_gnDzYhS8E
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May 13, 2015 18:44
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Wicked City looks good, hopefully they don't make a blacklist mistake and think anyone cares about the Cops. I also hope Uncle Buck never sees the air.
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May 13, 2015 18:59
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I'm 34 years old and I do not know how to contain my excitement for The Muppets.
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May 13, 2015 19:23
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DoctorWhat posted:The only issue with "30 Rock starring the Muppets" is that we already had a Muppet 30 Rock. More 30 Rock is always good. 
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May 13, 2015 21:14
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I'm looking forward to the Muppets both because it looks fun and because I've somehow managed to never see the Muppets. I've seen them referenced, but never actually seen more than a few seconds in passing of any of the shows or movies.
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May 13, 2015 22:23
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tsob posted:I'm looking forward to the Muppets both because it looks fun and because I've somehow managed to never see the Muppets. I've seen them referenced, but never actually seen more than a few seconds in passing of any of the shows or movies. I hope it's successful so that Disney will get off its lazy rear end and release seasons 4 & 5 of The Muppet Show.
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May 13, 2015 23:47
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tsob posted:I'm looking forward to the Muppets both because it looks fun and because I've somehow managed to never see the Muppets. I've seen them referenced, but never actually seen more than a few seconds in passing of any of the shows or movies. Watch The Muppet Movie right the gently caress now.
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May 14, 2015 01:05
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tsob posted:I'm looking forward to the Muppets both because it looks fun and because I've somehow managed to never see the Muppets. I've seen them referenced, but never actually seen more than a few seconds in passing of any of the shows or movies. WTF. Dude like that other goon said, go watch The Muppet Movie right now. Then go track down some episodes of The Muppet Show. It's very creative and ahead of its time.
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May 14, 2015 02:43
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tsob posted:I'm looking forward to the Muppets both because it looks fun and because I've somehow managed to never see the Muppets. I've seen them referenced, but never actually seen more than a few seconds in passing of any of the shows or movies. !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude, get watching! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeEF4RAlNJQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14njUwJUg1I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS5f6_1pOmw - especially good as the dialogue was entirely improvised.
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May 14, 2015 03:57
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Valeyard posted:Greys Anatomy really needs to die already That being said, I will watch the poo poo out of The Muppets. get that OUT of my face fucked around with this message at 05:11 on May 14, 2015 |
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May 14, 2015 04:58
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Muppets will be great. Nothing else matters.
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May 14, 2015 08:57
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So goddamn hype for Muppets. I'm afraid this is a dream I'll wake up from. Trailer thing for Uncle Buck wasn't terrible. It might be okay. I just have a knee-jerk reaction to it not being John Candy. 
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May 14, 2015 16:48
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Another Shonda Rhimes show. So is ABC just the Rhimes network now? Because if so, I love it! Barry Convex posted:IIRC, NBC idiotically tried to sell it based on the alternate-timeline angle and not the far more familiar Biblical one. He's apparently anorexic(?), but yeah. He makes me think of Adam of Workaholics.
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May 15, 2015 01:05
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Postal Parcel posted:Another Shonda Rhimes show. So is ABC just the Rhimes network now? ABC at least only needs one night to be propped up by Shonda programming; pretty sure all her shows just get jammed on Thursdays, including the new one. NBC meanwhile is increasingly beholden to Dick Wolf in the sparse amount of successful scripted programming it has.
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May 15, 2015 01:24
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Mooseontheloose posted:My only issue is that I am not sure the Office gimmick should carry the whole show. I want them to be a variety show again but I also know that I can't live in nostalgia. I think if they split it up, with half the show dedicated to this Office-style presentation and then half being the actual Muppet show they're putting on, it will work, but I'm not sure it's something they can rely on 100%. It seems like it's basically going to be 30 Rock but with Muppets. Or in other words, 30 Rock. The humor is pretty up to snuff in that trailer but the bear racism gag feels like a really poor thing to focus so much of the trailer on.
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May 15, 2015 01:34
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Sober posted:There was another Saul/David story? It was on NBC and titled "Kings". It was a drat shame that NBC didn't pick it up for a second season.Based on the trailer for Kings and Prophets, if they stick to the source material, it seems like this series would see a limited run even if the Network heads never consider it for cancellation. TV Zombie fucked around with this message at 04:59 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 15, 2015 04:55
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nerdbot posted:It seems like it's basically going to be 30 Rock but with Muppets. Or in other words, 30 Rock. So, in other words, perfect?
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May 15, 2015 05:55
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myron cope posted:So, in other words, perfect? The thing that's weird is that it's a show about the production of a show and the people who make it, except we are already familiar with the show-within-a-show and they have to strike a different balance. I have faith! And it'll be a good way to make it stand out from the shows its format is inspired by. I guess I'm just voicing some trepidation because I'm always worried they'll gently caress up the Muppets even though there's no reason for me to think they will.
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May 15, 2015 06:29
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nerdbot posted:The thing that's weird is that it's a show about the production of a show and the people who make it, except we are already familiar with the show-within-a-show and they have to strike a different balance. 30 Rock was just fake SNL staring actual people that were actually on actual SNL. We were already familiar with the show 30 rock was making too.
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May 15, 2015 15:27
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WarLocke posted:
I'm pretty sure that's how everyone feels, well it's not John Candy so gently caress it.
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May 15, 2015 18:57
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Kings was amazing, I'm still very sad it died.
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May 16, 2015 09:15
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Jose Oquendo posted:So this is the second time they tried to get an Uncle Buck TV series going. Weird. I thought the casting was sort of strange, given the title of the show, as I a while ago I heard the term was a racial slur. This was something I wasn't even aware of for years until hearing something about it in passing a long time ago. Turns out that after a quick search I saw that there's been at least on article critical of the production based on that.
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May 17, 2015 08:46
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JediTalentAgent posted:I thought the casting was sort of strange, given the title of the show, as I a while ago I heard the term was a racial slur. This was something I wasn't even aware of for years until hearing something about it in passing a long time ago. I too am offended that a slur that hasn't been used in a century is part of the title of the 1989 film on which this show is based. Baronash fucked around with this message at 10:17 on May 17, 2015 |
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May 17, 2015 10:09
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JohnSherman posted:I too am offended that a slur that hasn't been used in a century is part of the title of the 1989 film on which this show is based. That doesn't particularly make it pardonable though. While the Uncle Buck thing is unrelated to the racial term, "black buck" has had a far reaching effect that's still felt today. Hell, look no further than modern pornography where the term is, A: still used and B: used to treat black men as an Other (something that's still happening across America in a huge way). It's unfortunate and won't be changed but it's unintentionally odious.
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May 17, 2015 11:49
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Not something I'm exactly proud of, but I watch a good bit of porn and have never heard the term "black buck" used in any context. Personally I'm just saddened that the guy playing Buck looks quite skinny. It's John Candy's legacy I suppose, but I just expect if they're redoing it they'd at least get someone overweight and chunky to play the guy.
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May 17, 2015 12:24
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tsob posted:Not something I'm exactly proud of, but I watch a good bit of porn and have never heard the term "black buck" used in any context. Personally I'm just saddened that the guy playing Buck looks quite skinny. It's John Candy's legacy I suppose, but I just expect if they're redoing it they'd at least get someone overweight and chunky to play the guy. It's more conflated with the term "bull" now but they have the same origin. Porn's one of the last dehumanizing entertainment industry that isn't related to the service industry but that's another topic altogether.
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May 17, 2015 12:49
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Vanderdeath posted:That doesn't particularly make it pardonable though. While the Uncle Buck thing is unrelated to the racial term, "black buck" has had a far reaching effect that's still felt today. Hell, look no further than modern pornography where the term is, A: still used and B: used to treat black men as an Other (something that's still happening across America in a huge way). I'm pretty sure the name recognition of "Uncle Buck" as a movie franchise has more traction among the general populace than the racial term. If they changed the name because they cast a black actor in the role, they wouldn't be trading on the movie's recognition anymore, it would just be "Comedy Vehicle About Sloppy Uncle Played By Comedian of Color" (Fall 2016) which has a bit less cachet. The larger question in my opinion, is who was really clamoring for a tv remake of a 25 year old movie? Must be the same people who really want to see Coach back on the air. 
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May 17, 2015 13:11
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Why are there so many tv versions of movies all of a sudden?
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May 17, 2015 16:53
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Vanderdeath posted:That doesn't particularly make it pardonable though. While the Uncle Buck thing is unrelated to the racial term, "black buck" has had a far reaching effect that's still felt today. Hell, look no further than modern pornography where the term is, A: still used and B: used to treat black men as an Other (something that's still happening across America in a huge way). are you seriously pretending that an industry that explicitly trades in fetishization and fantasy is at all indicative of cultural trends?
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May 17, 2015 18:28
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like lol of all the examples you could've used about how race relations in america are strained and how the uncle buck name looks super bad because it stars a black dude you went with porn, maybe the one example that isn't valid didn't go with cops shooting black people all the time, or entrenched racism, no. porn.
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May 17, 2015 18:30
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Astroman posted:The larger question in my opinion, is who was really clamoring for a tv remake of a 25 year old movie? Must be the same people who really want to see Coach back on the air. I think mainly because it's something you can market fairly well and has a lot of recognition. Uncle Buck and Coach both feel like they're aiming at the 'grandparent' demographic of people who enjoyed the feel-good family comedies of the 90s. (edit: Which may be the point, in a way. I'm not sure what the statistics are, but that demographic might be more apt to continue watching traditional TV as opposed to all the online and trying to appeal to them with family show concepts they're familiar with and they feel they can sit and watch with the grandkids could be a plus.) Really, they need to do a Home Alone series in the vein of 24. 72-96 hours of real-time violence, survival, comedy and heartwarming family reunions. JediTalentAgent fucked around with this message at 20:18 on May 17, 2015 |
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May 17, 2015 20:09
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Mr Beens posted:Why are there so many tv versions of movies all of a sudden? If I had to guess, 12 Monkeys was critically well received and got a 2nd season so everyone was like "poo poo we can do that too, let's greenlight every adaptation pilot we have".
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May 17, 2015 23:07
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sticklefifer posted:If I had to guess, 12 Monkeys was critically well received and got a 2nd season so everyone was like "poo poo we can do that too, let's greenlight every adaptation pilot we have". you...really have no idea how shows are produced do you
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May 18, 2015 00:01
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Toxxupation posted:are you seriously pretending that an industry that explicitly trades in fetishization and fantasy is at all indicative of cultural trends? If you don't think one of the most consumed forms of media has an effect on the perceptions of people then I'm just gonna assume you're going full Irish Joe. Astroman posted:The larger question in my opinion, is who was really clamoring for a tv remake of a 25 year old movie? Must be the same people who really want to see Coach back on the air. Old TV shows coming back and now movies being made into TV shows is a trend I don't understand, mostly because the shows they're making aren't based off of huge hits, with the exception of Minority Report.
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May 18, 2015 00:06
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Vanderdeath posted:If you don't think one of the most consumed forms of media has an effect on the perceptions of people then I'm just gonna assume you're going full Irish Joe. oh poo poo 30% of women have rape fantasies/consume rape porn! that must mean that 30% of women want to be raped! -forums user vanderdeath
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May 18, 2015 00:08
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like lol at the concept that people can't distinguish fantasy from reality, especially in such a falsified, fetishized medium as fuckin' porn jfc
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May 18, 2015 00:09
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Vanderdeath posted:If you don't think one of the most consumed forms of media has an effect on the perceptions of people then I'm just gonna assume you're going full Irish Joe. Do you believe GTA trains people to be murder bots? Because that's essentially the same argument. People can differentiate real life from a simulation and that's all porn is: a and distorted simulation of reality meant to highlight certain aspects but including lots of fantasy and fetishization of real stuff to titillate.
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May 18, 2015 00:11
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Vanderdeath posted:That doesn't particularly make it pardonable though. While the Uncle Buck thing is unrelated to the racial term, "black buck" has had a far reaching effect that's still felt today. Hell, look no further than modern pornography where the term is, A: still used and B: used to treat black men as an Other (something that's still happening across America in a huge way). You're right. The show ought to be renamed. Uncle Tom has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?
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Toxxupation posted:oh poo poo 30% of women have rape fantasies/consume rape porn! that must mean that 30% of women want to be raped! Jesus Christ, man. tsob posted:Do you believe GTA trains people to be murder bots? Because that's essentially the same argument. People can differentiate real life from a simulation and that's all porn is: a and distorted simulation of reality meant to highlight certain aspects but including lots of fantasy and fetishization of real stuff to titillate. No, I don't, but there's been plenty of studies about how media and perceptive biases affect the public subconscious. I don't have access to Sage anymore but there was a recent study and article done that coincided with the Michael Brown shooting that goes into detail about the phenomenon. I'm not saying "all poo poo is bad therefore don't consume [x]" like a Concerned Mom, I'm just saying that some prejudices, biases and misconceptions are propagated by differing forms of media and spread throughout the cultural milieu that way.
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