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Wolfsheim posted:
Prepare to be astounded: He comes back in season 6.
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# ? May 13, 2015 07:56 |
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Zaeryth posted:A very exaggerated view of the ST universe, though not with out a certain accuracy. Realistically Data wasn't seeking to be human as much as he was seeking emotion as he felt "incomplete" and mimic Human vs Vulcan because he would have to avoid emotion, easy enough for Data I'm sure! Those that didn't want to join the Federation weren't evil, Klingon's were allies, despite the war prior though IIRC that wasn't started by the Federation and def not due to a "join or die" mentality! Romulan's are what they are, joining or not has nothing to do with they're position in anything. Borg are the exact opposite of that state meant, they ARE the join or die factor, but Borg>All not Federation>Borg dir of that mentality. Ferengi would have to profit by such a joining, that's they're choice, Cardassians....yyeah, they're racist, but again, not the Federation being racist! In fact speaking of racism and "the white man going around the galaxy", DS9 put a lot of racism on the table, from a black man in space perspective even; And that's not including the oppression of the Bajoran ppl by the Cardasians for they're racist bit! As for the Q, the only way they would ever join the Federation would be if they weren't so "superior" and ahh... over Jean Luc's Dead body, lol. AAnd the Breen, so little known about them, yet when they had the oportunity to go a direction it was against the Federation, against the whole drat quadrant and all by they're choice! The first few seasons of TNG are very much about humans roaming around and condemning everyone for being different. I think canonically the Klingons and the Federation have only been at war twice. Once for like two days during TOS and during DS9's 4th season. The problems with the Federation are pretty explicitly stated in DS9 too. I think there's even a character who does the borg/federation comparison.
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# ? May 13, 2015 08:07 |
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Wolfsheim posted:I just started rewatching TNG and I can't believe they end s2 on a clip show episode, that's less forgivable than even the space-africans and space-irish It does actually come up lol owned
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# ? May 13, 2015 14:37 |
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Wolfsheim posted:I just started rewatching TNG and I can't believe they end s2 on a clip show episode, that's less forgivable than even the space-africans and space-irish They had to do the clip show because of a writers strike that year.
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# ? May 14, 2015 02:06 |
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trek noobs qqing about shades of grey itt.
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# ? May 14, 2015 02:06 |
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muscles like this? posted:They had to do the clip show because of a writers strike that year. They should have just aired a rerun.
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# ? May 14, 2015 02:06 |
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so what's wrong with Quark selling murdering and sex simulating holoquite programs? there's no victim
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# ? May 14, 2015 02:29 |
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Ein cooler Typ posted:so what's wrong with Quark selling murdering and sex simulating holoquite programs? so you support digital snuff??
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# ? May 14, 2015 02:33 |
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TEAYCHES posted:so you support digital snuff?? you don't??
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# ? May 14, 2015 02:36 |
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Let us English posted:
As for going around condemning others for being wrong, idk, I didn't see that. Although, I can accept they were judgmental, going around pointing out things folks were doing wrong, but seemingly on a basis of... we've been though this our self and we know better..... is it they're place....naw, but then again they tend to go around with the mentality that everyone wants to join the Federation and wearing the "are you worthy" goggles.
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# ? May 14, 2015 02:42 |
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Shadow posted:you don't?? well ive played some call of duty games is that the same thing...
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# ? May 14, 2015 02:45 |
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Ein cooler Typ posted:so what's wrong with Quark selling murdering and sex simulating holoquite programs? Interesting mentality, now apply it to current day RL.... Understanding that RL current day there are ahhh unwilling participants involved in the creation of such material... keep in mind it doesn't seem the holo tech is solely based on programming random figures as they use holo cam's to duplicate someones image. Either way the reality is if you are in to something, you dont want to pretend, considering this from an education point of view. You go to school to be a doctor, you dont wanna pretend. You like to street race, PlayStation wont cut it. These considerations dont even take in to account law, Federation, Bajoran, .... I would say Ferengi but Im pretty sure they dont have laws other than they're profit related rule book. So with all that said I have to assume your a member of the Orion Syndicate, likely the only place these activities would be accepted in any circumstance!
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# ? May 14, 2015 02:47 |
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Zaeryth posted:Interesting mentality, now apply it to current day RL.... Understanding that RL current day there are ahhh unwilling participants involved in the creation of such material... keep in mind it doesn't seem the holo tech is solely based on programming random figures as they use holo cam's to duplicate someones image. Either way the reality is if you are in to something, you dont want to pretend, considering this from an education point of view. You go to school to be a doctor, you dont wanna pretend. You like to street race, PlayStation wont cut it. These considerations dont even take in to account law, Federation, Bajoran, .... I would say Ferengi but Im pretty sure they dont have laws other than they're profit related rule book. So with all that said I have to assume your a member of the Orion Syndicate, likely the only place these activities would be accepted in any circumstance! uhh what
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# ? May 14, 2015 02:48 |
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those were a lot of words
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# ? May 14, 2015 03:00 |
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computer show me a titty
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# ? May 14, 2015 03:05 |
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Zaeryth posted:Interesting mentality, now apply it to current day RL.... Understanding that RL current day there are ahhh unwilling participants involved in the creation of such material... keep in mind it doesn't seem the holo tech is solely based on programming random figures as they use holo cam's to duplicate someones image. Either way the reality is if you are in to something, you dont want to pretend, considering this from an education point of view. You go to school to be a doctor, you dont wanna pretend. You like to street race, PlayStation wont cut it. These considerations dont even take in to account law, Federation, Bajoran, .... I would say Ferengi but Im pretty sure they dont have laws other than they're profit related rule book. So with all that said I have to assume your a member of the Orion Syndicate, likely the only place these activities would be accepted in any circumstance! Post your star trek fanfic please
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# ? May 14, 2015 03:22 |
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how i would murder someone in star trek future and get away with it: drug them and beam them into a holosuite right when someone is starting holosnuff.exe, and lock the door so the patsy kills the real person not knowing that they're real and you end up with a zillion gigaquads of holorecordings and all that dna evidence proving they did it
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# ? May 14, 2015 03:39 |
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One of the few redeeming factors of Voyager was that they had a literal psychopath serial killer. Though he had a redemption arc episode where he became a hero. If I'm not mistaken, DS9 had a serial killer too? A magic bullet phaser shotgun?
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# ? May 14, 2015 03:46 |
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Computer. Show me Captain Picard. Naked. On a motorcycle.
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# ? May 14, 2015 03:59 |
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Kilo147 posted:Computer. Show me Captain Picard. Naked. On a motorcycle. Computer, since I can just tell you to lock phasers on the enemy ship's hull, why the gently caress do I need Worf?
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# ? May 14, 2015 04:01 |
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Shadow posted:Computer, since I can just tell you to lock phasers on the enemy ship's hull, why the gently caress do I need Worf? They don't need 90% of the crew. There was that one episode where people kept disappearing until it was just Beverly and Picard, and the ship was still trucking along well enough that she couldn't convince anyone that the ship was critically understaffed. One person or a very small group of people has run the Enterprise, Voyager, or even TOS Enterprise several times. Starfleet is mostly a way to keep "ambitious" people out of the way. Most people are content with the free apartment, food, healthcare, and entertainment. Those that aren't get funnelled off planet so they don't try to tinker with a system that works.
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# ? May 14, 2015 04:14 |
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I bet that handheld planet to planet transporter Khan invented in the reboot is canon. Starfleet just buried it because it made them too obviously useless.
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# ? May 14, 2015 04:14 |
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I love that those are basically the two choices you have. A simple life to explore your passions or a strict, hierarchical military life.
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# ? May 14, 2015 04:16 |
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Angela Christine posted:They don't need 90% of the crew. There was that one episode where people kept disappearing until it was just Beverly and Picard, and the ship was still trucking along well enough that she couldn't convince anyone that the ship was critically understaffed. One person or a very small group of people has run the Enterprise, Voyager, or even TOS Enterprise several times. weeeeeelllll not really , a goon came up with this and its certainly compelling but the fact is that this level of thought wasn't put into it because its just a TV show!!!! The federation doesn't actually exist ( )
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# ? May 14, 2015 04:19 |
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Angela Christine posted:I bet that handheld planet to planet transporter Khan invented in the reboot is canon. Starfleet just buried it because it made them too obviously useless. I bet the Federation did 9/11 too.
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# ? May 14, 2015 04:27 |
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warp plasma can't melt iridium alloys
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# ? May 14, 2015 04:28 |
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EngineerSean posted:
they did do 9/11 in ds9
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# ? May 14, 2015 05:34 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:they did do 9/11 in ds9 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PbdyJ_ybSI
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# ? May 14, 2015 06:05 |
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am I a smug internet atheist for thinking "who watches the watchers" is the best star trek episode
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# ? May 14, 2015 06:15 |
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Wolfsheim posted:am I a smug internet atheist for thinking "who watches the watchers" is the best star trek episode i dunno if you are or not but its a fantastic episode for sure.
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# ? May 14, 2015 06:50 |
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Shadow posted:One of the few redeeming factors of Voyager was that they had a literal psychopath serial killer. Oh actually yeah, good points on both accounts!
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# ? May 14, 2015 06:52 |
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I think it's time we had a new Star Trek show. It's been like 12 years since Enterprise ended and with serial shows being the new norm, it would be great if they brought in a new DS9 style series. Maybe a Federation Civil War? It would have to be a proper series though, not based on the universe of the poo poo movie series.
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# ? May 14, 2015 06:55 |
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they're never going back. star trek died with the release of the 2009 film.
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# ? May 14, 2015 07:00 |
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OMG ur so right, you said 12 years and I hadn't realized its already been that long. IDK if they tried to copy and old mold it would just be poo poo IMO. But yeah, def need something new going on! They should spin off the more current movies that have been coming out, alt time line etc. Fed civil war isn't a bad idea!
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# ? May 14, 2015 07:02 |
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Hmm... come to think of it, in the alternate universe based in a time after Voyager could be interesting, lots of possibilities and new backstory references to alternate universe Picard or Sisko. Though I have to say I really don't like the new movies. They're eye candy with empty storylines. I'd prefer post-Voyager continuation.
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# ? May 14, 2015 07:05 |
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Shadow posted:Hmm... come to think of it, in the alternate universe based in a time after Voyager could be interesting, lots of possibilities and new backstory references to alternate universe Picard or Sisko. Oh completely agree, its about money no doubt. Another option would be earth coming in to the galactic arena as more of an underdog, perhaps with less or no support from Vulcan, etc.
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# ? May 14, 2015 07:12 |
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Zaeryth posted:Oh completely agree, its about money no doubt. holy poo poo what if it's the klingons that first see them hit warp? or no, wait, the Romulans. The "Federation" is the bad guys.
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# ? May 14, 2015 07:14 |
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LOL hard to see being the "bad guys" considering the Romulans! But hey, give it to a talented writer and I'm sure they can do something for us, lol.
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# ? May 14, 2015 07:16 |
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Zaeryth posted:LOL hard to see being the "bad guys" considering the Romulans! But hey, give it to a talented writer and I'm sure they can do something for us, lol. It's all relative, right? If we're seeing the point of view of the Earth/Romulan alliance, then whatever the Federation is would be the bad guys!
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# ? May 14, 2015 07:18 |
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Wiggles Von Huggins posted:they gave him lots of stuff to do in ds9. i just watched him have a shouting match with rumplestiltskin for example yeah but DS9 is when the horror truly began for miles I just watched an episode of DS9 where Miles is getting treated super loving weird by everyone after coming back from some trip and it turns into this crazy conspiracy against him. It turns out he is like a spy clone or whatever that thinks it is the real O'Brian and when the real O'Brian kills him at the end the fake O'Brian whispers 'Tell Keiko I love her...' as he dies and real Miles is standing there with a thousand yard stare. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 07:24 on May 14, 2015 |
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