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Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

insidius posted:

Exactly.

Ill deal with whatever happens. Outside of that I expect at some point today I will gain the ability to take five minutes, sit back and just
breath and least take happiness from the fact that I have or will at least shortly regain my life.

This is why I had to be so careful in the first place but sadly, the concerns I had came to life. Oh well, nothing to be done about. Life throws you
curveballs and you just have to deal with them.

I've deleted any quotes from earlier so if you want to go back and delete your posts, now would be a good time. Just in case.

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Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

insidius posted:

Exactly.

Ill deal with whatever happens. Outside of that I expect at some point today I will gain the ability to take five minutes, sit back and just
breath and least take happiness from the fact that I have or will at least shortly regain my life.

This is why I had to be so careful in the first place but sadly, the concerns I had came to life. Oh well, nothing to be done about. Life throws you
curveballs and you just have to deal with them.

Yo I'm gonna need a picture of an alcoholic beverage and a sign with your username on it.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Toshimo posted:

Yo I'm gonna need a picture of an alcoholic beverage and a sign with your username on it.
Also, it should have a cocktail umbrella in some bright, tropical color. Neat whiskey is for drinking at your desk at 9 PM, not after you quit an abusive job.

insidius
Jul 21, 2009

What a guy!

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I've deleted any quotes from earlier so if you want to go back and delete your posts, now would be a good time. Just in case.

Sound logic. I may have went too far, I hope not.

insidius
Jul 21, 2009

What a guy!

Toshimo posted:

Yo I'm gonna need a picture of an alcoholic beverage and a sign with your username on it.

Yeah, I am rather ill at the moment, they are going to poke around inside of me next week in the hopes of finding out what is going on.

If I start to perk up though I will see if I can stomach a drink :)

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

insidius posted:

Yeah, I am rather ill at the moment, they are going to poke around inside of me next week in the hopes of finding out what is going on.

If I start to perk up though I will see if I can stomach a drink :)
In the meantime, go far, far away from computers. Read a book. Stare up at the sky.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

insidius posted:

Yeah, I am rather ill at the moment, they are going to poke around inside of me next week in the hopes of finding out what is going on.

If I start to perk up though I will see if I can stomach a drink :)

Not gonna give you medical advice, but my girlfriend went through something similar. She was hating her job a lot, getting stressed out every day, hating her life. She started getting weird pains all over, but particularly a sensation of being stabbed in the upper right part of her stomach, near her gall bladder.

Anyways, long story short (and in a country where medical expenses can bankrupt you)

Turns out, there's nothing physically wrong with her. It was stress and anxiety doing it.

Now, maybe there's something physically wrong with you, but I'm just seeing some similarities and I'm thinking that maybe you should grill up some burgers and have a few beers and see if that makes you feel better.

insidius
Jul 21, 2009

What a guy!

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Not gonna give you medical advice, but my girlfriend went through something similar. She was hating her job a lot, getting stressed out every day, hating her life. She started getting weird pains all over, but particularly a sensation of being stabbed in the upper right part of her stomach, near her gall bladder.

Anyways, long story short (and in a country where medical expenses can bankrupt you)

Turns out, there's nothing physically wrong with her. It was stress and anxiety doing it.

Now, maybe there's something physically wrong with you, but I'm just seeing some similarities and I'm thinking that maybe you should grill up some burgers and have a few beers and see if that makes you feel better.

Yeah that is the hope of the specialist really. Based off all evidence so far its seems to be nothing "too" serious, I just bleed constantly from my anus etc. They think it could be an ulcer or some sort of internal tear, they wont know until the poke around from both ends
though so in the meantime they are like just try to reduce your anxiety, try to rest up and not stress myself too much about what I see everytime I dare to remove my pants.

I do hate to place such disgusting details really but its part of what has been adding to my stress and I am not particularly ashamed about butt stuff so you know...I am sure it will all be fine. They did say given my age its incredibly unlikely to be something I should
REALLY worry about so it helps to know that.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Working in IT 3.0: I am not particularly ashamed about butt stuff

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


It's ok. You just had a vagina for a while. You finally got your balls back so that weekly bleeding will soon come to end.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

jaegerx posted:

It's ok. You just had a vagina for a while. You finally got your balls back so that weekly bleeding will soon come to end.
If you seriously believe that's supposed to happen weekly, your understanding of the menstrual cycle is even worse than Eminem's.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


Vulture Culture posted:

If you seriously believe that's supposed to happen weekly, your understanding of the menstrual cycle is even worse than Eminem's.

1 week a month and it was a joke. But good on you getting not getting humor on an Internet comedy website.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

I'm glad we brought overt sexism into this too just to make it officially the worst loving 5 pages of SH/SC of all time. ... Not involving DAF, that is.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Docjowles posted:

I'm glad we brought overt sexism into this too just to make it officially the worst loving 5 pages of SH/SC of all time. ... Not involving DAF, that is.

Maybe it's like those FInal Destination Movies, we kicked out DAF but the shitpost fairy won't be denied.

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

I'm glad you got out and went to a doctor but I could have done without knowing about the butt bleeding

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!
It's that time again.

https://youtu.be/6M17aG_Po2Y?t=47

GOOCHY
Sep 17, 2003

In an interstellar burst I'm back to save the universe!

insidius posted:

I quit, its already turned bad really quickly.

Ill update when I can.

Try to do it in far less words this time.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


I guess he knew poo poo posting was going on. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3467608&perpage=40&pagenumber=188#post445353101

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

jaegerx posted:

1 week a month and it was a joke. But good on you getting not getting humor on an Internet comedy website.

loving A. "You got your balls back" is one thing. "You traded the genitals of submission for those of domination" isn't a joke on an internet comedy website. It's a huge problem with this industry, and brushing statements like that off as jokes just makes it worse.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


evol262 posted:

loving A. "You got your balls back" is one thing. "You traded the genitals of submission for those of domination" isn't a joke on an internet comedy website. It's a huge problem with this industry, and brushing statements like that off as jokes just makes it worse.

I'll fork your github.

E: if you really want to argue with me over every post I made because you're a terrible poster who just bundles rpms and calls himself a dev we can. I really don't care.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.
It's nights like this that I kind of want neptho and teapot and zenwhen back.

Macropiper
Feb 11, 2007

Pillbug

insidius posted:

I am speaking to lawyers and our fair work systems.

If Aussie employment law is anything like NZ law, and I think that it is, you will do well off this.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Macropiper posted:

If Aussie employment law is anything like NZ law, and I think that it is, you will do well off this.

Yeah, but it's pretty boring for the rest of us.

crunk dork
Jan 15, 2006
Just bleeding out my rear end but doc says its NBD lol

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
gently caress me, here we go again

Let's half of us say things that are rude or sexist and the other half can get triggered

Swink
Apr 18, 2006
Left Side <--- Many Whelps
How do recruiting companies work? There are so many of them around here, how do I pick one? What if I pick Company A but my dream job is with Company B? Do I sign up with all of them or is that bad form?

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy

Swink posted:

How do recruiting companies work? There are so many of them around here, how do I pick one? What if I pick Company A but my dream job is with Company B? Do I sign up with all of them or is that bad form?

It's pretty rude to work with more than one at a time. Big recruiting firms tend to have good relationships with cool companies that could be hard to get into for an interview otherwise. Once you're in they can also prep you a lot better since they know the client/interviewees well. That's where I saw the strengths at least.

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug
Aaaaa stripe what have you done

Swink
Apr 18, 2006
Left Side <--- Many Whelps
So should I just pick the biggest/most recognizable firm? There's a national one that has an office in my area. I guess I just need to walk in the door.

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy

Swink posted:

So should I just pick the biggest/most recognizable firm? There's a national one that has an office in my area. I guess I just need to walk in the door.

Just do your homework first - McDonald's is big and recognizable but probably not the best place to get a burger in your town.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

Swink posted:

So should I just pick the biggest/most recognizable firm? There's a national one that has an office in my area. I guess I just need to walk in the door.

If it's Robert Half, save yourself the time and frustration.

Seriously, though, if you've got some experience, get your LinkedIn public and up to date. I've had multiple recruiters coming to me about open positions. LinkedIn was so much more effective than trolling Monster or Indeed, and it didn't require hundreds of silent rejections!

Dark Helmut
Jul 24, 2004

All growns up

Roargasm posted:

It's pretty rude to work with more than one at a time. Big recruiting firms tend to have good relationships with cool companies that could be hard to get into for an interview otherwise. Once you're in they can also prep you a lot better since they know the client/interviewees well. That's where I saw the strengths at least.

I disagree with this. If I have a rock star candidate, I might ask for a week or two headstart, but ultimately that puts the burden of "finding you a job" on my shoulders so I would recommend finding 2-3 recruiters in your market that you can build a good rapport with. It's important to remember that agencies get paid by our clients so our job (and how I get paid) is to find the right candidates for their positions. That said, the feel good part of my job is helping people, not companies.

My candidates take jobs with other agencies all the time and I don't take it personally. It's business, and if I'm in your shoes I'd do the same thing. Just be transparent about it and let me know you're interviewing elsewhere. If I didn't get you a job, I'm going to congratulate you and make sure you know to call me next time you are on the market.

To answer your question Swink, I would meet with a few recruiters, more if you're looking hardcore and without a job. Try to get recommendations from peers so you're not just throwing darts at a board. Get an idea for their clients/scope and their process and see how it meshes with what you're looking for. But above and beyond, try and get a read for the person that's sitting across from you and see if they really want to help you. In general, the bigger the company, the more the recruiter is numbers-driven and less inclined to take the time to really get to know you and the key points in your search. The flip side of that is sometimes the larger agencies do have access to bigger national accounts, etc. That said, there are good and bad recruiters everywhere and the only way to find out is to meet them. Good recruiters will invest time and energy in meeting you and building a relationship whereas bad recruiters will generally be looking at you for a single position, or will do lovely things like tell you you're submitted when you aren't. One of my candidates left a full time job for what he was told was a contract to hire and it ended up being just a 3 month contract, which is just a really short-sighted and unethical move by the recruiter. If you're not comfortable vetting recruiters yourself, I would just ask around for recommendations.


Edit: and absolutely get your LinkedIn up to date.

Dark Helmut fucked around with this message at 14:30 on May 15, 2015

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

I'm I the only one who feels like LinkedIn is just unnecessary and just one more thing you have to keep up to date?

I mean you already have your resume out there on job sites, why have one more that will just get you more spam? I guess I've just never needed it and it seems like a hassle to invest a lot of time into it.

CloFan
Nov 6, 2004

CloFan posted:

I really enjoy my job-- like, I don't mind waking up in the morning and sometimes look forward to coming in and accomplishing something. I'm on track to become the network admin in <1 year, certs are paid for and I get to touch a lot of neat technology. Small, public University IT. Pay sucks, everything else is great. Future is uncertain, though-- IT Director is retiring next year and this university has started a trend of outsourcing operations, although no mention has been made about our department.

I have an interview tomorrow. It would be with the county courthouse, I'd be a one-man IT department for around a dozen employees. I'd work directly under the county judge. Pay starts at 2k above what I'm making now, but I think I can talk them up some more because I wouldn't take the job at that rate. I know it sounds like I'm putting the cart before the horse here, but I've got an inside source that they've only got two applicants and the other one has very little experience. Oh well, I won't really be able to make any kind of decision until I learn more about their workplace, anyways.

Quoting myself here. I went to the interview yesterday, and it went well. I was incorrect in the numbers department; it would be about 100 users spread across 6 locations in the county. A couple libraries, sheriff's office, two courthouses, and a road maintenance dept. 35 hour work week, better insurance, worse 401k (no match), same holidays and same PTO. The interesting part is, I would be steering the county's technology direction for the foreseeable future. They need to come up with a 5-year technology plan, and this position would be the one to create and implement it. It would also be the guy who fixes broken printers, so there's that. They are receptive to paid training expenses, but since it's a county gov't any and all expenses will need to be approved by the quorum court. Hardware purchase, staff expansion (I was told it is feasible to hire more IT staff in the future), literally every penny spent must be approved by the court.

It's a tempting position because of the influence within the political system I'd have, but I'm leaning toward a No at this time. A 7% increase is too small to throw away what I've built and am building up to at my current job.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





CloFan posted:

Hardware purchase, staff expansion (I was told it is feasible to hire more IT staff in the future), literally every penny spent must be approved by the court.

This sounds awful. Fighting for every penny sucks. I can't imagine how much more it sucks to fight for it with a public committee.

Especially if you're going to be dealing with that level of stuff and fixing printers.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat

Wizard of the Deep posted:

If it's Robert Half, save yourself the time and frustration.

Seriously, though, if you've got some experience, get your LinkedIn public and up to date. I've had multiple recruiters coming to me about open positions. LinkedIn was so much more effective than trolling Monster or Indeed, and it didn't require hundreds of silent rejections!

What's wrong with Robert Half? I've used them, everyone at this company used them, and I have no complaints.

mayodreams
Jul 4, 2003


Hello darkness,
my old friend

BaseballPCHiker posted:

I'm I the only one who feels like LinkedIn is just unnecessary and just one more thing you have to keep up to date?

I mean you already have your resume out there on job sites, why have one more that will just get you more spam? I guess I've just never needed it and it seems like a hassle to invest a lot of time into it.

The best opportunities that have come my way have been through LinkedIn and I make sure to keep it updated and fresh.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy
Who handles actually purchasing computers in you guys' organizations? It's part of my new job and the novelty is already wearing away.

Dark Helmut
Jul 24, 2004

All growns up

BaseballPCHiker posted:

I'm I the only one who feels like LinkedIn is just unnecessary and just one more thing you have to keep up to date?

I mean you already have your resume out there on job sites, why have one more that will just get you more spam? I guess I've just never needed it and it seems like a hassle to invest a lot of time into it.

LI's biggest benefit in my opinion is that it makes it much easier to keep track of your references as they move from company to company. And the networking aspect of it is great too. Tons of good groups to join, whether they are technical forums or local job hunting groups etc.

I don't advocate updating it every day, but at least every year or two.

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12 rats tied together
Sep 7, 2006

Yeah I usually try to make sure the answer to that question is "Not me".

Previous job, it was the other jr sysadmin. Current job our company is very small and we don't spend a lot of money on hardware, so most computer purchases come from the director for new employees or from the sysadmins if it's a replacement for an end user (we have about 15 end users).

I actually watched a dude get fired (mostly) for slightly loving up a PC order. We ended up purchasing like 30 new desktops and 20 new laptops, but for some reason all of the desktops came with 2x DisplayPort video cards and we only had like ~6 DVI to DisplayPort adapters in the house. I guess they had to tack on the additional expense for the adapters to the purchase order for the desktops + laptops themselves for some bureaucratic reason and it "delayed the period" or something?

Accounting was pissed, the CFO was pissed, he ended up leaving shortly afterwards. I try to avoid spending company money as much as possible because I'm positive that I just do not give enough of a gently caress to spot mistakes like that.

To be fair, it was out of his control that we needed to order small form factor desktops (came straight from the CEO's wife) which had a tendency to blow out their power supply once every ~9 months and had to come with all sorts of other nonstandard components, but still support 2x monitors. Also apparently our Dell rep had changed 3 times in 3 months and the new guy neglected to mention that the desktops were coming with 2x displayport. Still "his fault", but yeah, definitely not something I ever want to deal with.

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