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shrike82 posted:Yeah, it's pretty bizarre that goons are defending CDPR for lying about the graphics of the game shut up idiot
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I remember reading an interview with one of the devs, and they said they didn't want to show off pc ultra until release because they wanted to give pc players "a bit of a slap to the face". It's obviously not how they meant it but with all this downgrade talk, that's pretty funny.
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May 18, 2015 17:44
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iGestalt posted:It won't because people can't approach it in an intellectual manner, so all they do is fling poo poo and throw tantrums. Nothing gets done. Agreed. It's super frustrating to me on both sides, the "There is no problem whatsoever you entitled babies!" and the "this is robbery gently caress this developer!" keep us from actually having a discussion on why this is such a prevalent thing and what, if anything, to do about it.
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May 18, 2015 17:44
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I kinda want to play this on day one just so I can see the Advent Rising-ness of it.
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May 18, 2015 17:47
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Dog Fat Man Chaser posted:Agreed. It's super frustrating to me on both sides, the "There is no problem whatsoever you entitled babies!" and the "this is robbery gently caress this developer!" keep us from actually having a discussion on why this is such a prevalent thing and what, if anything, to do about it. Absolutely. I'm not saying anything bad about the game itself and the graphics are fine, it's just a major problem in the industry to put an ultra sheen in previews you never see in the final product.
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May 18, 2015 17:48
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Naky posted:Dammit. Galaxy is giving me two times for the release of Witcher 3 and I don't know which is true yeah noted console developer CDPR porting its games to the PC
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May 18, 2015 17:48
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The store page says 6 and a half more hours, the game's page says release in 14 hours. Which is it you cockteasin' fucksticks?! 
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Dog Fat Man Chaser posted:Agreed. It's super frustrating to me on both sides, the "There is no problem whatsoever you entitled babies!" and the "this is robbery gently caress this developer!" keep us from actually having a discussion on why this is such a prevalent thing and what, if anything, to do about it. Yeah. I don't really think it's a big deal - false advertising is a pretty big thing these days (If it's even that, I don't think it is). Thinking a product will be a 1:1 relation to it's marketing material, when it's release is a couple of years away is a bit.. silly. Plus, the actual product isn't even out yet - while review versions do exist, I don't think they are truly representative of the final product. People (and, often, society as a whole) are entitled in that they expect something to be 1:1. Often, it is not. While not entirely relevant, I think there is a parrel in ordering a Burger. Does it look identical to the marketing material? No, it'll look different depending on who made it, who dressed it and who hosed up and dropped it on the floor. Will the game look identical to the marketing material? No - and it'll look wildly different depending on the hardware it's run on. It may even look different to different people, depending on how they personally appreciate the visuals.
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May 18, 2015 17:49
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floor is lava posted:I kinda want to play this on day one just so I can see the Advent Rising-ness of it. Hopefully I win the cash prize!
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shrike82 posted:Yeah, it's pretty bizarre that goons are defending CDPR for lying about the graphics of the game I don't really feel like I've been lied to, that's the thing. I recognize that video games don't really come together until the last minute, a lot of the time. It's not like Dark Souls 2, which seemed far more scummy to me. edit: or loving Colonial Marines
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May 18, 2015 17:50
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The "downgrade" stuff is definitely a matter of principles rather than quality, the game looks great anyway and I don't regret buying, false advertising still shouldn't get a pass but it's getting blown way out of proportion. Like I'll watch that video of the PS4/PC comparison or the screens and wonder which one of these is supposed to look better again?
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May 18, 2015 17:50
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shrike82 posted:yeah noted console developer CDPR porting its games to the PC Yes, because I was clearly talking about CDPR in my comment. You're so ~wittay~ and ~clevar~, you sassy devil you.
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May 18, 2015 17:51
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Here's what to do about it: Realise that marketing is marketing. Don't take it at face value, and just wait to see some real gameplay footage closer to release. Most importantly, don't get riled up about minor graphical settings in a loving video game.
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Dog Fat Man Chaser posted:Agreed. It's super frustrating to me on both sides, the "There is no problem whatsoever you entitled babies!" and the "this is robbery gently caress this developer!" keep us from actually having a discussion on why this is such a prevalent thing and what, if anything, to do about it. Actually the main things stopping anyone from having a mature and coherent and likely very boring discussion about misleading video game advertising are the lack of available evidence and more importantly the fact that this is the Games forum and not D&D.
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May 18, 2015 17:52
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Bardeh posted:Here's what to do about it: We should instead be getting riled up about the lack of Geralt Dong in the game.
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May 18, 2015 17:53
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i am downloading this video game to my playstation 4 hooray
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iGestalt posted:Yeah. I don't really think it's a big deal - false advertising is a pretty big thing these days (If it's even that, I don't think it is). Thinking a product will be a 1:1 relation to it's marketing material, when it's release is a couple of years away is a bit.. silly. In regards to the parallel, I've heard there are some places where images used for advertising of food have to be pictures taken of something using the actual ingredients as it would be made, using the same recipe/process, so while you'll rarely see it done, it COULD be as advertised. What about the case where it can't possibly be done, though? A case like, say, with Aliens, where the game can't possibly, no matter what hardware you throw at it, look as good as they advertise? That's really what I'm interested in. Bardeh posted:Realise that marketing is marketing. Don't take it at face value, and just wait to see some real gameplay footage closer to release. Generally good advice, of course, but I can't blame someone for expecting something labeled as gameplay to be the gameplay. Maybe they shouldn't expect that, but that seems deceptive to me.
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:This is mentioned in the books when Ciri is training to become a Witcher. It's not just the mutagens and Trial of the Grasses. There's a diet of specially prepared fungi and such that hugely affect the body's hormonal balance. Hormones are supposed to have a different balance in men and women, obviously. The Witchers didn't think of that, and they were having Ciri on that until Triss noticed and threw an absolute shitfit. Triss assumes they're going to ask her for help in mutating Ciri but it turns out the main reason why they need her is because Ciri started going into trances and prophesizing and they could sense it was magical in nature but didn't know what to do about it. Geralt couldn't face Yennefer after they broke up so they turned to Triss, the only other mage they can trust.
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May 18, 2015 17:56
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Hello, I lost all of my witcher 2 save files due to I had to format my computer. Is there some dialogue thing when I start a new game to tell it what choices I made? Does it even matter at all really?
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May 18, 2015 17:56
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iGestalt posted:It won't because people can't approach it in an intellectual manner, so all they do is fling poo poo and throw tantrums. Nothing gets done.
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May 18, 2015 17:58
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Does the PC version still have the nvidia hair simulator graphics option? This is important toward my enjoyment of this game.
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Dog Fat Man Chaser posted:In regards to the parallel, I've heard there are some places where images used for advertising of food have to be pictures taken of something using the actual ingredients as it would be made, using the same recipe/process, so while you'll rarely see it done, it COULD be as advertised. That is interesting - I had no idea there was an approach like that. Yeah, Alien's CM is a really good example of not only a complete downgrade but a huge lie about the end result. Witcher 3 is not anywhere remotely close to that, though. Ideally this could all be solved with Developers/Publishers putting "Not representative of final product" or "Our goal is for it to look like this" or, hell. "Potentially subject to change" That's solve it all. No it wouldn't. People are dumb.
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May 18, 2015 17:59
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Alighieri posted:Does the PC version still have the nvidia hair simulator graphics option? This is important toward my enjoyment of this game. Yes it does, and if early reports are accurate it will absolutely murder your framerate.
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May 18, 2015 17:59
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New trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBoCRYX6Vq0 I worked on this one!
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May 18, 2015 18:02
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iGestalt posted:That is interesting - I had no idea there was an approach like that. Yeah, Alien's CM is a really good example of not only a complete downgrade but a huge lie about the end result. Witcher 3 is not anywhere remotely close to that, though. Ideally this could all be solved with Developers/Publishers putting "Not representative of final product" or "Our goal is for it to look like this" or, hell. "Potentially subject to change"  , with all parts. I seem to remember some Bioshock ads that did just that, they had what you said, "Not representative of gameplay" or something, on them.
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Avalerion posted:Last wish (book spoiler): I interpreted it as a wish for love as well. Either way, the Djinn basically binds their fates together. Yennefer is kind a bitch in the short stories (I assume mostly because she can't deal with the whole destiny thing) but becomes great in the novels.
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This is like a legal battle. Just watched the 2013 trailer and I assume the thing people get upset about is the part that says "in-game footage." So it's sort of up to you on how you take that. Honestly, developers should probably just avoid saying it all together.
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iGestalt posted:That is interesting - I had no idea there was an approach like that. Yeah, Alien's CM is a really good example of not only a complete downgrade but a huge lie about the end result. Witcher 3 is not anywhere remotely close to that, though. Ideally this could all be solved with Developers/Publishers putting "Not representative of final product" or "Our goal is for it to look like this" or, hell. "Potentially subject to change" Then you get ubisoft "in game pre rendered footage " which doesn't mean anything.
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Alighieri posted:Does the PC version still have the nvidia hair simulator graphics option? This is important toward my enjoyment of this game. This. I like my heroes and hoes with perfectly rendered pubic hair. 
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I don't want developers to stop optimizing games because a guy who spent $3000 on a computer wants to look at pretty graphics at 2frames per second instead of playing the game.
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May 18, 2015 18:04
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Booya posted:Hello, I lost all of my witcher 2 save files due to I had to format my computer. Is there some dialogue thing when I start a new game to tell it what choices I made? Does it even matter at all really? There should be Nilfgaardian interrogator to set up major decisions, or you can roll with whatever's default.
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May 18, 2015 18:06
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New trailer just came out on Witcher youtube page. Lots of cameos from past games in this one. And holy poo poo the facial expressions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBoCRYX6Vq0
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Bort Bortles posted:I dont know how you are playing, but what skills does Geralt start with? I absolutely hated having to do the "beginner" tree in Witcher 2 and then needing to spend skill points on other basics to reduce backstab damage and whatnot. Geralt starts off as a pretty capable guy. I haven't even invested a skill point yet but right off the bat you're able to do everything you want in combat. Well, most everything, as you don't start with a crossbow. No need to invest to reduce backstab damage or anything like that. I do think it's interesting that there are skills which can tie into light/medium/heavy armor to provide boosts. The light armor skill increases crits and fast attacks, medium boosts sign damage and stamina regen, and heavy increases health as well as heavy attacks. EDIT: Earlier I mentioned crashing while playing Gwent on PS4. I recreated the crash. It seems to happen consistently (in the tutorial match, at least) if you tap the triangle button instead of holding it down to pass your turn. Corin Tucker's Stalker fucked around with this message at 18:11 on May 18, 2015 |
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:New trailer: Oh hell. I count quite a few returning characters! Zoltan lookin' fuckin cool.
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Spikeguy posted:This is like a legal battle. Just watched the 2013 trailer and I assume the thing people get upset about is the part that says "in-game footage." So it's sort of up to you on how you take that. They should just label everything as concept footage until the last few months.
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Heliosicle posted:http://www.pcgameshardware.de/The-Witcher-3-PC-237266/Specials/Grafikkarten-Benchmarks-1159196/ Note that they are saying that this new review runs about 10-20% percent slower than the preview version they tested just a couple days ago. Gamestar.de also tested different graphics cards (in German): http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/artikel/the_witcher_3_wild_hunt_systemanforderungen,49062,3085863,7.html#fazit The value added: GTX 770 can run the game with High settings, if you have more than 2GB VRAM, crank up the texture quality to Ultra.
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iGestalt posted:Oh hell. I count quite a few returning characters! Zoltan lookin' fuckin cool. Roche and ves in the trailer, oh yes.
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May 18, 2015 18:14
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:New trailer: Lil Ciri on the Pendulum! 
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Found a review and this comment had me laughing.quote:Not necessarily a bad review, but not a good one either. The reviewer seemed to be completely unbiased in his assessments if not a little harsh. He reviews the game not as a gamer but as a critic painstakingly slogging through the game in effort to get the review out on time.
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VarXX posted:I don't want developers to stop optimizing games because a guy who spent $3000 on a computer wants to look at pretty graphics at 2frames per second instead of playing the game. Given how the game runs so poorly on consoles, I don't think CDPR succeeded in that either.  Thanks Obama
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