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"We tried to make it feel like it was more than a job these last four years, but right now, it’s still a job and Grantland is still being consumed and judged by the general public (with unusually high standards, too)." What is this referring to? The transgender putter story? Why does Simmons think Grantland is judged with unusually high standards?
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Because they have excellent writers?
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May 17, 2015 16:37
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Because the average article quality is higher than other sports outlets. The standard they are being judged against is the one they set themselves.
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May 17, 2015 16:59
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I think people judged it highly because it was the new kid on the block of long-form/prestige journalism. Unlike other sources of content like theirs, Grantland didn't have a few decades of credibility to fall back on. That's also why that massive gently caress up on the trans/putter story was so damaging. Since then I think they've done a lot to push against that, but I think that's mostly because they have such excellent writers that would never gently caress up like that. Brian Phillips, Charlie Pierce, and Wesley Morris ooze credibility and legitimacy. (Andrew Sharpe on the other hand sounds like he wants a job on first take)
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May 17, 2015 17:03
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BWV posted:I think people judged it highly because it was the new kid on the block of long-form/prestige journalism. Unlike other sources of content like theirs, Grantland didn't have a few decades of credibility to fall back on. That's also why that massive gently caress up on the trans/putter story was so damaging. Andrew Sharp is a goofy 20-something that enjoys writing silly articles. He would be incredibly out of place on First Take because he actually understands how ridiculous sports are.
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May 17, 2015 17:12
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Henchman of Santa posted:Andrew Sharp is a goofy 20-something that enjoys writing silly articles. He would be incredibly out of place on First Take because he actually understands how ridiculous sports are. I liked his early fake "hot takes" but now it seems they are bleeding over into his non-parody work.
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BWV posted:I liked his early fake "hot takes" but now it seems they are bleeding over into his non-parody work. Whenever I see his name, I have to remember to find the "THIS IS SATIRE" caption, then I read the article and look for it again. Then I become confused and walk away.
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May 17, 2015 18:04
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Sharp seems like a nice guy and a decent writer without a clear role at Grantland and not a lot to say.
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May 17, 2015 18:07
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He's one of the editors on the sports side so presumably he's doing a lot to drive the site beyond just writing stuff (they have like 80 people with "editor" in their title so maybe not, but he seems like one of the more active ones). It is true though that his actual opinions have tended to be almost as dumb as the stuff he used to make fun of.
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May 17, 2015 18:43
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Barnwell wrote something about Simmons. https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/599825263673745408 Noticed most of the writers re-tweeting it and some changed their avatars on Twitter. Seems like most of the people at Grantland liked working for him. Probably a tricky situation though to speak up at this time.
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May 17, 2015 22:23
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I'm glad that Bill Branwell found his voice as "tediously boring football stats guy".
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May 17, 2015 22:27
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Alain Post posted:I'm glad that Bill Branwell found his voice as "tediously boring football stats guy". It was tough for him to find his voice through his ceaseless wheezing and gulp noises R.D. Mangles fucked around with this message at 00:10 on May 18, 2015 |
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May 17, 2015 22:37
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Barnwell's best skill is knowledge of 90s post-hardcore bands
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May 17, 2015 23:51
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Alain Post posted:I'm glad that Bill Branwell found his voice as "tediously boring football stats guy".
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May 17, 2015 23:57
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FlamingLiberal posted:I appreciate this post for the subtle name misspelling Bill Branwell is a good source of fiber and roughage
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May 18, 2015 00:29
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midwat posted:Bill Branwell is a good source of fiber and roughage Actually, in such a small sample, it's impossible to determine whether improved digestion is due to the branwell or through luck. I'll tell you what though, those bowel movements on unsustainable [huge sigh/wheeze] due for some regression.
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R.D. Mangles posted:Actually, in such a small sample, it's impossible to determine whether improved digestion is due to the branwell or through luck. I'll tell you what though, those bowel movements on unsustainable [huge sigh/wheeze] due for some regression. Sure, next you'll be telling me bowel momentum is a myth.
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May 18, 2015 01:18
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I'd love to hear BIll talk about the Clips... or any of the playoff series, really. Man, the timing of it is just ESPN saying, "you want to talk about he NBA playoffs? You can't now. gently caress you." Could be a coincidence, but I want to maximize my drama.
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Marklar posted:I'd love to hear BIll talk about the Clips... or any of the playoff series, really. For a second I thought you were talking about Barnwell and it kind of completely broke my brain.
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May 18, 2015 06:10
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The Clippers have just had bad turnover luck and should return to the mean next season
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May 18, 2015 06:33
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Why would Doc Rivers bother inbounding the ball to Chris Paul with 1.2 seconds left in the half? The chance of him making a halfcourt desperation shot doesn't at all make up for the odds that he suffers a freak injury; just hold the ball and head into the locker room
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May 18, 2015 06:35
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So It Goes posted:"We tried to make it feel like it was more than a job these last four years, but right now, it’s still a job and Grantland is still being consumed and judged by the general public (with unusually high standards, too)." I think is talking about how everyone is worried that Grantland is going to go to poo poo now that Simmons is gone. So everything on the site is going to be under a microscope with regards to it turning into clickbait.
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May 18, 2015 15:51
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I'm shocked that Bill Barnwell is only 31. I'd have bet he was in his 40s, easily.
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May 19, 2015 06:06
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Chris Sheridan sucks
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You cut off the worst, creepiest part. quote:Yes, this is a shame. But the lottery is not about trophy wives or trophy daughters or even trophies — at least in the short term. It is about hope for the future, and the T-Wolves have a little more of that now with a young core that includes Rookie of the Year Andrew Wiggins, 2013 No. 1 overall pick Anthony Bennett (if he does not turn into LaRue Martin 2.0) and the Spaniard who is the Mallory Edens of young men, Ricky Rubio. Yipes.
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May 20, 2015 04:27
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holy poo poo 
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May 20, 2015 05:36
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Trophy daughters?? I am unclear how that would even work past the initial grossness of the statement. "Yeah I went to the daughter store and picked up some hot babes, can't wait for people to check my new daughters out."
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May 20, 2015 05:42
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I know this gets said about like half the sports writers out there, but holy poo poo how did that make it past a single editor? Edit: durr, didn't even notice it was his own drat website, no wonder.
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May 20, 2015 08:35
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One person I hope survives any incoming Grantland changes is Jonathan Abrams. I feel like he churns out the best work but I can't imagine writing a monthly in-depth profile of an athlete is very lucrative beyond the "prestige" factor. While they have a tendency to be puffery, I do enjoy his articles and hope they continue to find a home at Grantland or somewhere else. I thought about this after reading his article today on Mozgov. I remember enjoying his pieces on Mike Miller, Josh Smith, Draymond Green, and Mike Conley as well.
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May 20, 2015 17:06
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Glen Taylor's wife looks like your typical Republican wife. I'm sure she's a fine person, but it's weird that Sheridan has such a boner for a middle-aged woman. Why did he think this was a good idea? What point was he trying to make?
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Lockback posted:Glen Taylor's wife looks like your typical Republican wife. I'm sure she's a fine person, but it's weird that Sheridan has such a boner for a middle-aged woman. Why did he think this was a good idea? What point was he trying to make?
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May 20, 2015 18:11
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It sounds like he's got a boner for Ricky Rubio too (to be fair who doesn't)
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So It Goes posted:One person I hope survives any incoming Grantland changes is Jonathan Abrams. I feel like he churns out the best work but I can't imagine writing a monthly in-depth profile of an athlete is very lucrative beyond the "prestige" factor. While they have a tendency to be puffery, I do enjoy his articles and hope they continue to find a home at Grantland or somewhere else. he's writing, or has written, a book about the high-school-to-NBA trend that's coming out next year fyi
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leokitty posted:Trophy daughters?? I am unclear how that would even work past the initial grossness of the statement. She actually commented on it on Twitter today. https://twitter.com/MedensEdens/status/601042736649793537
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May 21, 2015 01:21
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Does anybody have a link to the sports illustrated article about the closing of yankee stadium. where they spend seven pages writing about the stadium in the first person, and end by saying the most proud moment in baseball history was george bush throwing out the first pitch in the world series
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May 21, 2015 23:54
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Apparently Joel McHale will be hosting the ESPYS. Man, if ESPN didn't like Simmons making GBS threads all over Goodell...
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hcreight posted:Apparently Joel McHale will be hosting the ESPYS. Man, if ESPN didn't like Simmons making GBS threads all over Goodell... I guarantee you they've straitjacketed every ESPYs host since Norm burned it down that one year.
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May 22, 2015 22:54
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Isn't it prerecorded anyway? They'll just edit out all the shots at the NFL.
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Niwrad posted:Isn't it prerecorded anyway? They'll just edit out all the shots at the NFL. Not anymore. Also this year it's going to be on ABC, so that's even more visibility.
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midwat posted:I guarantee you they've straitjacketed every ESPYs host since Norm burned it down that one year. why would someone be stupid enough to give Norm a hot mic in an event like that, much less host
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