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Just remake FFV with the most Saturday Morning Cartoon graphics possible and all the Fiesta modes implemented in the game.
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Sunning posted:Fun fact, the recently released Final Fantasy X HD remaster for PS4 sold a little under 16K units this week in its debut in Japan. It was the best selling game of the week. 
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May 21, 2015 20:28
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That mobile market isn't going to fill everyone's coffers forever because those games are made to be time-consuming and there's only so many of them one person is going to play at any given time. It'll be interesting to see how it all ends up though.
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May 21, 2015 20:43
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Yyyyeah. Japanese console sales are in the toilet. A major release might help but that's a big question.
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May 21, 2015 20:43
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frodnonnag posted:Kids absolutely love sonic, esp. The under 10 crowd. I know a few relatives kids that have all the recent games. Another kiddie seller is the licensed movies poo poo shovelware, my sister's son absolutely tears thru licensed poo poo. Yup. This is mostly why. My youngest son loves Sonic. Some kids even love Sonic without even knowing that he is a character that originated in video games.
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May 21, 2015 20:44
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Kanfy posted:That mobile market isn't going to fill everyone's coffers forever because those games are made to be time-consuming and there's only so many of them one person is going to play at any given time. It'll be interesting to see how it all ends up though. People have been saying this for over five years now. The solution, as it turns out, was to just keep making newer and shinier money-sinks for people to get lost in when they get bored of their current one. Mobile has completely consumed the Asian markets, and nothing is going to change that. The best you can hope for is that console releases don't shift completely to the mobile model.
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May 21, 2015 20:48
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YIKES Stay Gooned posted:This might be the most insanely reductive post Ibe ever seen in my life Nah Sonic and FF have a lot in common. The music's good, the story's garbage, they're mostly enjoyable (except when they're not, they're really not), and the best entries recently have been nostalgia spin-offs and mobile ports. Edit: well ok "garbage" was a poor choice of words, they're as good as they need to be Tempo 119 fucked around with this message at 19:38 on May 22, 2015 |
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May 21, 2015 20:56
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Tempo 119 posted:Nah Sonic and FF have a lot in common. The music's good, the story's garbage, they're mostly enjoyable (except when they're not, they're really not), and the best entries recently have been nostalgia spin-offs and mobile ports. I'm going to have to disagree with the whole "story is garbage" thing when it comes to Final Fantasy. Generally speaking the stories are nonsensical, and have huge plot holes, but there is generally something interesting or intriguing enough to make the story of interest. It may not necessarily be "good" but it generally amusing and interesting. Even when the story is completely divorced from anything approaching reality, as in FFVIII, the setting and tone of the story and concept behind the story is arresting enough. Beyond that some of the storylines are actually good, with good character development. Read Elentor's LP of FFVII, it shows just how much thought and development went into the characters. Yes a lot of it is obscured by horrid translation and localization, but the story was still good.
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May 21, 2015 21:07
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Neo Rasa posted:Would totally play a game called Gunball. Well, there's a game called Gunsport that's "volleyball with guns."
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May 21, 2015 21:08
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why would you play any ff but V and some of the recent ones for any reason but story? yeah, I'm going to play FF9 and FF6 for the world class gameplay. Pretend this post took 60 seconds to load for maximum impact
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May 21, 2015 21:09
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FF6 had great gameplay when it was the first turn-based RPG I ever played.
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May 21, 2015 21:11
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I just went back to Guadosalam after unlocking the airship and Tromell is getting all passive aggressive like "boo hoo I'm a poor defenseless old man (who totally hosed you over and was complicit in literal genocide), go ahead and beat me up I guess, if it's so important to you". I hate this loving guy way more than any of the supposed villains.
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May 21, 2015 21:22
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Madmarker posted:I'm going to have to disagree with the whole "story is garbage" thing when it comes to Final Fantasy. Evil emperor summons a tornado to destroy half the world. Earthquake made a floating continent almost explode. Whale space ship takes a ninja to the moon. Aliens chase an evil tree man through space using meteors. Evil clown man moves some statues until the world explodes. A spiky-haired guy forgot he was a failure. A bunch of orphans who grew up together happen to team up together to save the world without recognizing each other. A half-monkey guy goes super-saiyan and destroys a planet after having an existential crisis. A famous athlete time travels to help some woman walk a lot. And that's not getting into the batshit insane stories of the spin-offs. More games should aspire to match the mind-boggling insanity that is the standard Final Fantasy story.
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May 21, 2015 21:34
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Mega64 posted:Evil emperor summons a tornado to destroy half the world. Yeah, but I mean, a lot of us grew up in the generation of poo poo like The Neverending Story and the Goonies. When you really think about it, those stories were loving weird. After you watch Return to Oz, "Whale space ship takes a ninja to the moon" becomes downright normal. But that aside, the strength of the series tends to be in the characters' stories rather than the overall stories, which is a pretty much constant in most video games. "Whale space ship takes a ninja to the moon" sounds (and is) kinda lame but "Dude confronts the dark side of his personality, overcomes it, saves his seemingly traitorous best friend, his long-lost brother's soul, and he, his best friend, his girlfriend, a girl he saved in his first moment of conscience (who in turn saved all their asses), and some ninja go beat a bad guy trying to destroy the planet to suck its energy dry" actually sounds fun because it captures the pieces of the story that resonated then and now with players. And each of the stories could be written that way. "Some guy realizes he's a failure" is short for "some guy realizes he's a failure, comes to grip with his limitations (with the help of a childhood friend) and is honest with himself and his friends, and ends up actually kicking rear end along with them" for example and that's the really condensed version. bloodychill fucked around with this message at 22:06 on May 21, 2015 |
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May 21, 2015 22:03
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The last Japanese console game that did crazy numbers was JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All Star Battle which did I think about 500k in its first two weeks and then died afterwards. The game also hit used game stores pretty quickly and fans did not like the F2P poo poo they implemented, so yeah.
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May 21, 2015 22:09
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Mega64 posted:A famous athlete time travels Now you're just making poo poo up. 
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May 21, 2015 22:10
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Beef Waifu posted:The last Japanese console game that did crazy numbers was JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All Star Battle which did I think about 500k in its first two weeks and then died afterwards. The game also hit used game stores pretty quickly and fans did not like the F2P poo poo they implemented, so yeah. Dragon Quest Heroes did like 600k between the two versions, and it also moved PS4s too. Then again, that was between two different consoles so it might not be fair listing that.
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May 21, 2015 22:21
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Tempo 119 posted:Nah Sonic and FF have a lot in common. The music's good, the story's garbage, they're mostly enjoyable (except when they're not, they're really not), and the best entries recently have been nostalgia spin-offs and mobile ports. Mario and Dragon Quest are consistently great series that are still being made by the same core team since the beginning, and their spin-offs are great too, especially the Itadaki Street games where they cross over. Final Fantasy and Sonic are all over the place in terms of quality, but we put up with the really bad entries because we know the next one will be completely different.
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May 21, 2015 22:22
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Dragonatrix posted:Now you're just making poo poo up. The truth makes even less sense.
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May 21, 2015 22:26
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bloodychill posted:And each of the stories could be written that way. "Some guy realizes he's a failure" is short for "some guy realizes he's a failure, comes to grip with his limitations (with the help of a childhood friend) and is honest with himself and his friends, and ends up actually kicking rear end along with them" for example and that's the really condensed version. Yeah imo the thing that the FF games people actually like (storywise) have in common is that the *trappings* of the story are wacky but the core of the narrative is something most people easily identify with. FF4 is about redemption and trying to become a better person, FF6 is about overcoming personal tragedy and hardship through community and friendship, and FF7 is about coming to grips with who you are and being true to it. Plus, sometimes the wacky trappings are a good thing. FF1 was about the crappy joke first boss traveling back in time/creating an infinite timeloop so he could accumulate power and stop being a joke; it came out at a time when every other game like it was about rescuing princesses or saving the kingdom from the demon lord. Baku fucked around with this message at 22:44 on May 21, 2015 |
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May 21, 2015 22:32
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Mega64 posted:The truth makes even less sense. An imaginary famous athlete thinks he time travels
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May 21, 2015 23:22
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Waldean posted:An imaginary famous athlete thinks he time travels So he can kill his imaginary dad who is killing people in the real world.
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May 21, 2015 23:24
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A Young woman with a death wish saves the world with her literal dream boyfriend.
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May 21, 2015 23:40
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Xavier434 posted:Yup. This is mostly why. My youngest son loves Sonic. Some kids even love Sonic without even knowing that he is a character that originated in video games. fix your son before its too late
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May 22, 2015 01:01
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Have him make a medallion and see what happens.
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May 22, 2015 01:43
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just make him play sonic 06 for the internet and he will stop liking sonic and also you
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May 22, 2015 01:45
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How Rude posted:A chinese exchange student I knew from high school said western gamers like three kinds of games: Gun, Car, and Ball. Pro Thunderball?
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corn in the bible posted:just make him play sonic 06 for the internet and he will stop liking sonic and also you It's worse. He makes ME play the bad sonic games. He is not interested in playing them himself. At the same time, he also wants to sit on my lap while I am playing Witcher 3 so he can grab the mouse and swing swords around which I only allow on a very limited basis because of the mature content in that game but still it makes me feel 
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ImpAtom posted:The honest truth is that Sonic is a strong mascot and, 2006 and Sonic Boom aside, his games tend to be playable-if-unexceptional. A lot of the strong dislike for them comes from poo poo like the Werehog which sucks if you're expecting Sonic but is fine to a kid who is playing Budget God of War with a cartoon character he likes. Generations was actually good but did not convince me of anything
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Hundreds of adventurers stand in a circle filled with man-sized flies for 3 hours every day for a chance to beat up a dragon.
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May 22, 2015 15:32
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pretty soft girl posted:Hundreds of adventurers stand in a circle filled with man-sized flies for 3 hours every day for a chance to beat up a dragon. i thought you liked mario
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I've never liked the Black Belt in FFI, but I think that's because I keep forgetting you're not supposed to give him a weapon. Kind of a dick move to make a weapon type just for him that lowers the damage he does. Also funny that despite having space for item descriptions now, the remake still doesn't clarify if Flame Mail is strong against fire or ice attacks. Also also I forgot about the Mindflayers, who have like a 50% chance to just straight-up kill whoever they hit. My heart sank until I remembered it was the remake and I had Phoenix Downs. In the original I'd be hiking my rear end back to Crescent Lake. Final Fantasy: Dawn of Dick Moves
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Zombie Samurai posted:I've never liked the Black Belt in FFI, but I think that's because I keep forgetting you're not supposed to give him a weapon. Kind of a dick move to make a weapon type just for him that lowers the damage he does. Back when I was playing FFI on the NES I had a list of enemies which I would either run from every time or I would just pray that I never encountered them. Mindflayers were on the list. It just wasn't worth it.
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pretty soft girl posted:Hundreds of adventurers stand in a circle filled with man-sized flies for 3 hours every day for a chance to beat up a dragon. Fafnir was a 21 to 24 hour respawn with nidhogg being a higher level random of 3+ days off of him. The way all the 'kings' spawned was pretty rote and horrible. They could only spawn on the half hour marks, so 7 windows of spawn time in those 3 hours, with 25 minutes of being afk in between. To boot, just getting to dragon's aery, the zone where faf/nid spawns is about a 20-30 minute trek across at least two zones depending on how you left. Both also had the 'spikeflail' dragon ability, where if anyone takes primary attention from him that isn't directly in front of him, he triggers this lethal aoe that will clear the zone. Adamantoise/aspidochelone was a bit worse, spawn being in an area full of mobs that will attack you unless sneak/invis are up, as well as being in a zone even further away, a trek of 4 zones. Behemoth/king behemoth had it's own poo poo issue. King behemoth, the 3 to 5 day+ lotto spawn off regular behemoth dropped defending ring, a very desired piece of gear for paladin tanks (and anyone really) at about a 1-3% chance. Back then it was so rare that it could actually not drop for months, if not a year. All three/six back then required 6 to 18 people to kill. Lesser skilled groups would wipe, and there was drama around japanese players holding the mob for over half a day to bring spawn back into japanese prime time. All thee are now popped by items that drop from instanced events, are now easily soloable, and all drops but defending ring are obsoleted. The worst world spawn (bosses/nm that spawn out in the world to claim) had to be ixion/sandworm. Both had measures implemented to discourage camping, but only made it worse. Spawn window was over several more hours, they could spawn anywhere over several zones, and would dissapear/not spawn if the zone picked had campaign going on. To make it even worse, ixion could be despawned by 'spooking' him, or running up to him without claiming by throwing the needed claim item at him. This would reset his spawn by half an hour. all this content is now changed, soloable, or irrelevant now.
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Mega64 posted:Evil emperor summons a tornado to destroy half the world. You forgot the first game. A band of thugs kill a guy, then travel back in time to kill him again.
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Sunning posted:Fun fact, the recently released Final Fantasy X HD remaster for PS4 sold a little under 16K units this week in its debut in Japan. It was the best selling game of the week. God drat, we're not getting one of these for XII, are we? 
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DrNutt posted:God drat, we're not getting one of these for XII, are we? If it is a thing it's probably been in the works for a long time now and those numbers hopefully wont mean much, especially if you include worldwide sales and the amount of people who, like me, bought the PS3 version already and don't see a reason to upgrade until it's cheap.
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DrNutt posted:God drat, we're not getting one of these for XII, are we? The FFX/FFX-2 Remaster for PS3/Vita did well. It's likely that Japanese players were satisfied with the initial release of the remaster and saw no need of double-dipping for the PS4 version. If anything, Square-Enix is probably angry at itself for not getting these remasters out earlier. Other than that, it's just the worst week in 15 years. The bigger question is whether we'll get FFXVI, FFXVII, etc. and any other future big budget Square Enix Japan developed games on consoles or not. The console industry in Japan has collapsed with the sales ceiling getting lower with each passing year. It's becoming a herculean task for games on home consoles to beat even 500K domestic sales. They could try competing in overseas markets where consoles are performing better. However, they're up against Western publishers who have money than them, stronger brands, and a better understanding of the local markets. Against those odds, Konami looks like it's ahead of the curve with its shift towards mobile gaming and gambling.
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