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Unrelated note: if you're playing an HQM pack on anything approaching a large server, you've probably heard about people in parties having their progress wiped. I've been working on Blightfall with Talonos and that's certainly a thing. HQM is a garbage fire with disinterested devs, so I had to make this to fix that bug with coremod fuckery. https://github.com/CannibalVox/NoTimeFix/releases/tag/2.0.2 Share and enjoy.
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30.5 Days posted:Unrelated note: if you're playing an HQM pack on anything approaching a large server, you've probably heard about people in parties having their progress wiped. I've been working on Blightfall with Talonos and that's certainly a thing. HQM is a garbage fire with disinterested devs, so I had to make this to fix that bug with coremod fuckery. https://github.com/CannibalVox/NoTimeFix/releases/tag/2.0.2 You're a goddamn saint. This bug completely stopped my group's progress on blightfall, and we were having a lot of fun with it aside from that. We noticed it only happened on shutdown-- was having a pending invite really the cause? How does that even work?
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ptroll posted:You're a goddamn saint. This bug completely stopped my group's progress on blightfall, and we were having a lot of fun with it aside from that. We noticed it only happened on shutdown-- was having a pending invite really the cause? How does that even work? No, the pending invite thing was me fixing a bug in the fix. The issue is uh, the word I used in IRC was "Seussian". Let's say you have a completed quest in your book. The quest completion is marked separately for each player for some reason. I'm not sure whether it always marks it under the group owner or for whoever looks at it or what. But let's say you have a quest that's completed but not marked as completed for one or more team members, for some reason. This is a real situation that can occur. For some reason. Then you shut down the server, start it back up, and it tries to read in the player data. So it reads in a member of the team who doesn't have the quest marked completed for them. For some reason, after loading this player it goes through the quests in their book to see if any of them should be marked as completed, but aren't. For some reason. So it sees this quest that another team member completed but rewards haven't been claimed for and it says "oh this thing's ready to be marked completed, but it isn't, so let's mark it completed!" So then it chooses right then to save the team data back out. For some reason. But rather than just fail because the file's locked, first it has to grab all the team data, including the total number of lives of all team members. It has to get this from the team members themselves. It saves and loads the total number of lives on the team to the file, but when it wants to know the number of lives on the team it looks at the players. For some reason. So it's iterating all the players on the team to get their lives except we're halfway through loading the file so some of those players aren't there. That's okay, when you try and get questing data for a player who isn't stored yet, it just creates a blank player without any data and puts them in the registry and then gets the number of lives from them, which is wrong, because we just made this data up, it didn't come from anywhere. So then we finally get to loading the teammates and it loads all their data from the file and then goes "oh they're already here in the player registry, I guess we'll just THROW ALL THIS DATA OUT AND LEAVE THEM WITH THE DEFAULT DATA FOR SOME REASON". And then multiply all this poo poo by the fact that I'm looking at it in the form of lovely decompiled code because these assholes refuse to open their source to anyone HOLY poo poo I loving HATE HQM
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Winners use NPC quest mods instead.  Seriously, I'm drat impressed you went to all the effort trudging through that garbage code just to work out a bug they couldn't be bothered to fix in their own mod. Sounds like, in short, that on top of lots of really poorly handled checks, the main problem is that it creates dummy placeholders, treats those as actual players, and then refuses to let the actual players take their place later. This is some mind-bending logic, so it's pretty incredible you managed to make sense of it at all.
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May 22, 2015 08:59
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That sounds like some truly, truly awful code. I've done enough programming to know the jist of what's going on with it. Like 10 completely backwards things are happening. I'm betting ALL of the code is like that. It would sure explain the severe lag from looking at the questbook sometimes, and why it will freeze you or lose all your progress when converting old HQM data to an updated questbook. McFrugal fucked around with this message at 09:51 on May 22, 2015 |
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May 22, 2015 09:48
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Grey Elephants posted:For some reason, the Technic launcher is recognizing my java as 32 bit (I have 64 bit installed). Reinstalling java didn't fix it, and I can't update OMP-i only being able to allocate 1 GB max. I had to go in the launcher settings and switch that all around again to make it stick, have you fiddled with which it uses and how much memory it gets?
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May 22, 2015 10:27
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Hi All, I've seen a few people mention the starting tool level system in OMP-i, and how use tools more to level up, start with flint, etc. However, I just want my normal starting progress back. Which mod does this so I can disable/Delete it? Cheers
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May 22, 2015 10:42
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Iguana Tweaks.
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TrenceJ posted:Hi All, Kind of pointless given the normal vanilla tools are working in the later versions now, but yeah, Iguana Tweaks.
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StealthArcher posted:Kind of pointless given the normal vanilla tools are working in the later versions now, but yeah, Iguana Tweaks. Thanks for that, However, I had only downloaded the pack about a hour before I posted, (2.0.0_3_1) so slightly confused why my Vanilla stone pick could not mine Iron. But oh well, I'll fiddle with the configs. Next question is this. This is my first experience with 1.7, and the fact I now no longer have to mess around with ID conflicts is quite nice. However, i'm guessing there is some kind of internal list correct? I only say this as I took the pack and dumped it into MultiMC, as I always do, And it all played fine (thats when I noticed the tool issue) However, After adding a couple of mods (Ancient Warfare and RemoteIO) upon creating a new world, I had soul sand for grass/dirt, Netherrack trees (and mushrooms) with lava leaves, and enderstone replacing stone. However, you could see very small parts (maybe an 8th of a chunk) that were generating normally randomly all over the place. Is there something I need to reset to get things to generate correctly in 1.7?
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May 22, 2015 13:16
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man i wish iguana tweaks wasn't so insanely imbalanced for progression because it has so many other useful features
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May 22, 2015 13:35
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Also is there any launcher that gives a way to search modpacks that isn't hot garbage?
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May 22, 2015 13:41
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Alejandro Sanchez posted:man i wish iguana tweaks wasn't so insanely imbalanced for progression because it has so many other useful features
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May 22, 2015 13:42
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Yeah but very few modpacks take advantage of that, and lord knows how I'd get 10+ people to do something more complex than "download this launcher and click on this pack".
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Alejandro Sanchez posted:man i wish iguana tweaks wasn't so insanely imbalanced for progression because it has so many other useful features I was so angry at a mod pack that used IguanaTweaks, mostly because I didn't know how to use Tinkers' Construct. Baby's First Space Race changed that. I was still annoyed at it in OMPi because even though it was fun to build up my tools, I got frustrated with there being just so damned many tiers. That is, until someone in this thread posted that you can cook iron in a furnace and get steel, thereby skipping to near the top of the tech tree. In OMPi, is there anything that lets me build faster? Man it would be sweet to build a wall with one click. Also, what's the easiest way to be able to fly?
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BJPaskoff posted:Also, what's the easiest way to be able to fly? My personal favourite is with morph. Set early flight to be enabled in the config, then go kill a bat. Not only flight, but being able to fit in 1x1 holes is quite handy when fiddling with hidden pipe systems in your base.
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Hell making a hidden hamster run to your *real* base should be your utmost priority.
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where are hamsters in omp-i, i've never seen one E: Also is there any way to place lava in the world automatically besides dispensors in omp-i? What's the simplest way to automate a Thermalily farm? Hemingway To Go! fucked around with this message at 15:27 on May 22, 2015 |
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May 22, 2015 14:19
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30.5 Days posted:HOLY Bummer the mod is such a mess, because IMO the idea behind it has the potential to be a foundational change in modded MC. (Is there a central repository of HQM mod tutorials yet? Because there should be.)
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Acne Rain posted:where are hamsters in omp-i, i've never seen one MFR fountains can do it, as can Thaumcraft arcane spas. Both can have liquids pumped directly into them. Speaking of pumping liquids, there's a recipe conflict in the latest OMP where trying to make temperate fluiducts makes Magneticraft copper pipes instead.
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BJPaskoff posted:I was so angry at a mod pack that used IguanaTweaks, mostly because I didn't know how to use Tinkers' Construct. Baby's First Space Race changed that. I was still annoyed at it in OMPi because even though it was fun to build up my tools, I got frustrated with there being just so damned many tiers. That is, until someone in this thread posted that you can cook iron in a furnace and get steel, thereby skipping to near the top of the tech tree. For faster building, try the builder's wand. It requires some materials that are a bit...exotic though. Or cheat one in, in which case there is a second, better creative one to cheat in for yourself.
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30.5 Days posted:HOLY  Seussian is right, my god. So many baffling decisions along the way-- I can't believe the devs wouldn't fix this. That's consistent with what we saw, though-- me and a teammate who played the most were locked out of the original team (that I created), while another player who left midway through and came back was still in the original team. The dummy data explains why it looked like I was still in the original team, despite being orphaned. Jeez! In any case, thanks again for the fix-- I don't usually ragequit stuff but trying to figure out what the hell was happening to our quest progress put me in a bad place. I'll test it out and see if it can salvage our game!
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:How did you do this? I suspect I should probably do this for the BFSR release. There's a config file named splash.properties, open that up and change enabled=true to false. That should do it.
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I'm looking to run a minecraft server for me and some friends. I have spigot to make it run better, are there any simple must-have mods to enhance but not really overhaul the game?
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Must-Haves that add no new items or game abilities at all: - NEI (Not Enough Items) is a big one to save you the hassle of having to remember recipes. - Mousetweaks and Inventorytweaks add control shortcuts and sorting options that make basic crafting and item management much faster and less click-intensive. - WAILA (What Am I Looking At) is a highly customizable mod that adds a little pop-up tooltip whenever you mouse over a block, giving you lots of useful info about it, such as whether the tool you are currently holding can mine that block effectively, and is super super interactive with other mods. Mods that add a few new things but nothing revolutionary: - IronChests, which just lets you sink your excess metals into making chests with larger inventories. - Journeymap or Voxelmap will add a nice minimap to the corner, remember mapped terrain as you explore, and allow you to add waypoints to it, either is very nice. - EnderStorage lets you color-code your ender chests so you can have a variety of linked inventories. This is the mod that inspired Mojang to add Ender Chests to the base game. Mods with somewhat larger impact but still don't change the basic nature of the game: - Tinker's Construct, a mod that allows you to mix-and-match parts to make customized tools, so you could have a pickaxe with an iron tool rod, a steel head, and an obsidian binding. Different part materials all have different properties, and there's tradeoffs you can make between durability, mining speed, etc. It's very cool. - Pam's Harvestcraft adds new plants to farm and new foods to cook. They don't add any special abilities, but now you can adventure into the nether stocked up on PBJ sandwiches or pizzas instead of a sack of steaks. Also adds some fruit trees so you can grow an orchard. Those are just off the top of my head. I'm sure others will come up with many I missed.
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Alejandro Sanchez posted:man i wish iguana tweaks wasn't so insanely imbalanced for progression because it has so many other useful features
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In OMP-i what's a black liquid you can't swim or drown in? I've found it twice now, and have no idea how to get rid of it, because you can't use a bucket on it. The only way seems to just cobblestone it in, but that's a lot of work. vvv: Thanks! e: It's galacticraft crude oil. Truga fucked around with this message at 19:59 on May 22, 2015 |
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Truga posted:In OMP-i what's a black liquid you can't swim or drown in? I've found it twice now, and have no idea how to get rid of it, because you can't use a bucket on it. The only way seems to just cobblestone it in, but that's a lot of work. Walia has a hotkey for a config menu that gives you the option to ID liquids. Try pressing numpad 0, that's the default button for it.
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30.5 Days posted:And then multiply all this poo poo by the fact that I'm looking at it in the form of lovely decompiled code because these assholes refuse to open their source to anyone I had second thoughts about HQM after I have pretty much had invested all this time into making a quest book. I looked up the project site to see what it would take to turn the quest book format into something like JSON so I could edit all the text externally. The in-game editor is fine enough for adding things, but it's quite tedious to make changes. It is also tedious to review everything and make sure I was using "there" instead of "their" like I seem to be doing now. Then I saw it was closed source, and they were rejecting suggestions that I would have been down with. With what you're saying, now I just assume they just serialize some crap to disk and aren't putting much thought into the data format at all.
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Haha you would be WRONG, my friend! No one can accuse HQM's data format of being UNDER-engineered. No, HQM's format is binary, but as I learned while chasing this issue, it is extensively bit-packed. This means that a Boolean (true/false) value doesn't occupy 8 bits as it does in memory, it occupies 1 bit. And it doesn't add padding to get realigned when it hits an 8bit value like old timey sub-byte data did, SO YOU CAN'T EVEN READ THE TEXT IN THE FILE WITH A HEX EDITOR BECAUSE NINETY PERCENT OF IT IS NOT BYTE ALIGNED. I really can't express how much I hate this mod. That said, a rewrite is supposedly in the works that has json format data, fixes all problems, shits rainbows. An early prerelease is being used for the latest AS beta and jaded cat says it's real good, but I also know that jaded has accepted the (false) explanation that this progress wiping bug and various performance issues are only a problem for large servers. To be honest, after dealing with lorddusk, who's the only HQM Dev who even contributes anymore,I don't believe it's possible to fix HQM without open sourcing it.
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30.5 Days posted:To be honest, after dealing with lorddusk, who's the only HQM Dev who even contributes anymore,I don't believe it's possible to fix HQM without open sourcing it. I wonder if it's a thing where people who know that they would be left in the dust if they open sourced their stuff are the one that badly needs to have their stuff open sourced.
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30.5 Days posted:Haha you would be WRONG, my friend! No one can accuse HQM's data format of being UNDER-engineered. No, HQM's format is binary, but as I learned while chasing this issue, it is extensively bit-packed.  What is this 1980 and we're trying to save bits to get more data on our punched tape?
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30.5 Days posted:Haha you would be WRONG, my friend! No one can accuse HQM's data format of being UNDER-engineered. No, HQM's format is binary, but as I learned while chasing this issue, it is extensively bit-packed. Hardcore Questing Mode: Coming to a demoscene near you!
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Sistergodiva posted:I wonder if it's a thing where people who know that they would be left in the dust if they open sourced their stuff are the one that badly needs to have their stuff open sourced. I don't think it's anything so calculated, I think they're just afraid to expose a job badly done to other developers out of embarrassment. What I wish I could explain is that that exposure and the advice and collaboration that follows is how you get better and your defensiveness is why you're loving up to begin with.
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30.5 Days posted:I don't think it's anything so calculated, I think they're just afraid to expose a job badly done to other developers out of embarrassment. What I wish I could explain is that that exposure and the advice and collaboration that follows is how you get better and your defensiveness is why you're loving up to begin with. I kind of reminds me of when I was running a telnet BBS and was in to that scene a little. People were trying to get door game authors to release source to their stuff so they could get updated for TCP. They all were terrified because it was some poo poo code they wrote as teenager.
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Truga posted:In OMP-i what's a black liquid you can't swim or drown in? I've found it twice now, and have no idea how to get rid of it, because you can't use a bucket on it. The only way seems to just cobblestone it in, but that's a lot of work. I hate it with a passion, and I've no idea how much gravel I've spent to get rid of it. It helps having the builder's wand, of course, but still.
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Holy dicks whyyyyy does VoxelMap for 1.8 require Liteloader? I can't get the drat thing to run with my multiMC instance because with it enabled, it doesn't pop up the multimc crash report, but does have this at the end of the forge log: http://pastebin.com/V9Yn9ibM If I disable liteloader, everything starts fine. JourneyMap hasn't updated for 1.8 apparently, and from what I can find it looks like Rei's isn't getting updated at all anymore. Oh wait, if I dig through the end of the Mapwriter thread, there's a sort of beta update for 1.8. I'll give that a shot.
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Is there any way to prevent Railcrafts lovely water spawners from generating, short of removing the mod itself?
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CrazyTolradi posted:Is there any way to prevent Railcrafts lovely water spawners from generating, short of removing the mod itself?
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Somebody earlier in the thread suggested I mention oil fabricators in BFSR to fuel the rocket. I guess they didn't manage to run into any of the oil laying around. I never heard of it before, but I was about to punch it in to the quest book. I see it online, but it doesn't come up in NEI nor in the MFR configuration. Was it recently removed?
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