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Beef Waifu posted:purple hair is gross
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What happens when red and purple mix together? Is that like magenta or fuschia?
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May 25, 2015 19:06
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Beef Waifu posted:What happens when red and purple mix together? Is that like magenta or fuschia? 
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May 25, 2015 19:08
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Sakura's hair was black before she started living with the Matous. The purple hair is from the worms, one of the few times anime hair color is actually explained by the story.
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May 25, 2015 19:09
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No that's what you'd think, but apparently it's actually still black. It's why nobody questions Sakura as to why her hair is bright purple.
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May 25, 2015 19:10
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Where did Shinji's blue hair come from then?
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May 25, 2015 19:10
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Beef Waifu posted:Where did Shinji's blue hair come from then? Zouken
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May 25, 2015 19:12
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Blue seaweed
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May 25, 2015 19:13
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Do not overthink anime hair
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May 25, 2015 19:13
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Beef Waifu posted:Where did Shinji's blue hair come from then? 
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May 25, 2015 19:14
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Zouken looks like lancer
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May 25, 2015 19:14
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takeuchi only knows five different hairstyles
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May 25, 2015 19:16
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You're right otherwise Saber shoulda had a ponytail
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May 25, 2015 19:16
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Saber Lily does.
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May 25, 2015 19:17
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That's why Saber Lily was the best design until the UBW anime.
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May 25, 2015 19:18
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Rodyle posted:I don't understand exactly what more you want it to show. Unless you want all three routes to just do the Heaven's Feel Paladin Breaks Vows thing I want it to to show some sort of concrete effect that renewing his ideals has on his life. How is he a different person after his encounter with Archer? What does this mean to him, or anyone else in his life? This is not a thing the story showed. For example, it could show him dying happy, like Fate showed Saber dying happy. This would indicate that he changed his life in such a way that he died happy. Instead it just ends up with him having sex with Rin forever and no mention of his ideals.
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May 25, 2015 19:18
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Beef Waifu posted:You're right otherwise Saber shoulda had a ponytail 
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May 25, 2015 19:18
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Beef Waifu posted:That's why Saber Lily was the best design until the UBW anime. Finally, something we can agree on. I got a big statue of Lily when I was in Tokyo last year for 200,000 yen. Worth every bit.
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May 25, 2015 19:20
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I can't believe there's been a Len sentai team but not a Saber one.
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May 25, 2015 19:22
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Saber's great and I will have no one tell me otherwise.
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May 25, 2015 19:22
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Clarste posted:Instead it just ends up with him having sex with Rin forever Living his life by my ideals
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May 25, 2015 19:23
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Endorph posted:here's zouken in his early years: For some reason I can imagine him voice by Kaiki from 'Gatari. I want more of this.
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May 25, 2015 19:26
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Raenir Salazar posted:For some reason I can imagine him voice by Kaiki from 'Gatari. Raenir Salazar posted:I want more of this. 
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May 25, 2015 19:28
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cute
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May 25, 2015 19:29
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Pony tail saber is good. I want an av of her instead of bazett now.
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May 25, 2015 19:33
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her name is heroine x and she's from the 2013 april fool's joke
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May 25, 2015 19:34
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Move over Rin...
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May 25, 2015 19:47
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Sylphid posted:Nonsense. The best hair color. Does Rider count as pink or purple? Cause whatever that is, it's the best.
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May 25, 2015 20:22
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Beef Waifu posted:Zouken looks like lancer Would certainly explain his tragic as hell ending
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May 25, 2015 20:42
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Having blue hair in type moon is a marker for failure or being reduced to a joke
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May 25, 2015 21:44
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Hivac posted:Having blue hair in type moon is a marker for failure or being reduced to a joke
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May 25, 2015 22:01
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shinji is the only character who benefits from having his character reduced to it's archetype
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May 25, 2015 22:18
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Beef Waifu posted:shinji is the only character who benefits from having his character reduced to it's archetype Not so, True Assassin benefits immensely from never being seen or heard from
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May 25, 2015 22:23
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The best part of this is that her hat has a little hole for her ahoge to stick out.
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May 25, 2015 22:27
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Clarste posted:I want it to to show some sort of concrete effect that renewing his ideals has on his life. How is he a different person after his encounter with Archer? What does this mean to him, or anyone else in his life? This is not a thing the story showed. For example, it could show him dying happy, like Fate showed Saber dying happy. This would indicate that he changed his life in such a way that he died happy. Instead it just ends up with him having sex with Rin forever and no mention of his ideals.
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Twiddy posted:I can understand why you want, (no, demand) a concrete example of it working out but that, in general, is not how stories work. A dragon is never actually a dragon in a story, and Gilgamesh is no different. Gilgamesh and his fight is the exact thing you're looking for, and just because it's done in metaphor doesn't make it any less real. In the story, Shirou's resolve is tested and he wins, he is going to die happy, fully accepting his ideal. The story did its job, even if you want more. Who wrote the ten pages during the F/Z thread about the meaning behind the fight between Gilgamesh and Iskandar? Regarding the Horizon and Dreams and so on? UBW is supposed to be looked at with the same lens.
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May 26, 2015 02:52
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Rodyle posted:Not so, True Assassin benefits immensely from never being seen or heard from
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Clarste posted:To be honest, my favorite scene in UBW is the one where Rin yells at him about how broken he is, right after Berserker dies. I found that far more satisfying and emotionally cathartic than the Archer scenes. Because he realizes that something's wrong with him, and that he's desperately clinging to this ideal for dear life. Going "yeah, but that's cool" afterward doesn't actually convince me that it's cool. It's not my absolute favorite, but that's a really good scene, yeah. It establishes that Shirou's philosophy isn't even anything he's actively reasoned to himself, but instead sort of an unexamined obsession he's allowed to consume him without even realizing what he's losing in the process. I'm not sure why you're assuming that UBW completely agrees with Shirou's philosophy however when Rin is not only never proved wrong, but is infact the primary heroine of the arc for that exact reason. UBW goes out of its way to say that Shirou's reckless heroism is a childish, impossible goal that will lead to a ludicrous amount of pain for him personally... but it's also a beautiful ideal that enriches the world by existing. Rin goes as far as to agree with that, even if she thinks living that way is twisted and he needs to be protected from himself. Think of it as a companion piece to Saber in Fate route. Saber gave up her humanity for the sake of her kingship, and as a result accomplished only a fraction of what she wanted and bore unimaginable agony in the process. She would have been personally better off leaving the sword in the stone and staying a human girl, experiencing a human life. On the other hand, the ideal she represents is beautiful, and her legacy enriched the world around her even through failure. Ultimately, she decides that pain was worth it, and decides against removing a hero from history even if it means giving up any potential to be human. The hero/human dichotomy and why neither choice is incorrect is a central theme of every route in Fate/Stay (even the mechanics of the Grail War invoke it: 1 selfish human, 1 selfless hero per pair). Hell, even in HF Shirou has to symbolically kill the hero him before he can settle down as a normal person. UBW is about reaffirming the importance of high ideals, but then it ends with Archer asking Rin to look after Shirou's humanity for him. Twiddy posted:I can understand why you want, (no, demand) a concrete example of it working out but that, in general, is not how stories work. A dragon is never actually a dragon in a story, and Gilgamesh is no different. Gilgamesh and his fight is the exact thing you're looking for, and just because it's done in metaphor doesn't make it any less real. In the story, Shirou's resolve is tested and he wins, he is going to die happy, fully accepting his ideal. The story did its job, even if you want more. This is in fact pretty much outright stated by Archer at the end of the True End. His final conversation with Rin serves the same narrative purpose as Saber's death scene and the epilogue of Heaven's Feel. It reiterates the themes, makes clear the consequences of Shirou (or Saber in the case of Fate)'s choice, and lays to rest the demons they've been metaphorically struggling with throughout the story. Archer finally coming to peace with himself (literally) represents Shirou's understanding of what he'll end up doing to himself, and his decision that it's worth it to keep going even knowing that. Classy Hydra fucked around with this message at 06:36 on May 26, 2015 |
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Continued from the anime thread:Surprisingly Dope posted:What's up with people in this thread hating Kiritsugu? He was much better then Shirou. His methods absolutely did work. The only reason he failed was because the true nature of the grail was hidden from him. He was badads, effective, and a much more compelling protagonist. Kiritsugu could probably have done better if he'd been nicer to Saber, if nothing else. With Avalon and Command Spells, she could have taken out Kirei and Gil, and they wouldn't have wiped out most of humanity in so many of the Bad Ends. By his own utilitarian metrics, his methods are a failure. Edit: One question that isn't really discussed in Zero: If Kiritsugu wished for world peace on an uncorrupted Grail, what would happen, and would it actually be a good thing? After all, wars and other forms of violence aren't like natural disasters; they exist as the result of human choices. It seems like the conflict in Apocrypha is going to revolve around an issue like that. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 03:10 on May 28, 2015 |
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please don't crosspost the trap post
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