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Does anyone else have this feeling that the game will be underwhelming? I'm asking as a big fan of Asylum and City, got the game with 970. The previews look like it's more of the same but with the Batmobile which doesn't look that fun to begin with. And the game has like 5 preorder DLC packs already because WB is a poo poo publisher.
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# ? May 27, 2015 21:49 |
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I'll admit I'm a bit worried. The game's got a lot of hype to live up to, and the $40 season pass isn't making it look better. Still going to play the poo poo out of it, more than likely.
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# ? May 27, 2015 21:54 |
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Terminally Bored posted:Does anyone else have this feeling that the game will be underwhelming? I'm asking as a big fan of Asylum and City, got the game with 970. The previews look like it's more of the same but with the Batmobile which doesn't look that fun to begin with. And the game has like 5 preorder DLC packs already because WB is a poo poo publisher. WB actually has a really good track record recently. They published Witcher 3, Shadow of Mordor, Mortal Kombat X, Dying Light and so-on. They've had some lovely PC ports but they seem to be trying to maintain a fairly strong brand. I doubt it'll have the same wow factor as Asylum or City but I'm pretty sure it'll be a good game. The hype might work against it but that's more a result of the long delay than anything else.
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# ? May 27, 2015 21:55 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4n8RWflTew There won't be any trailer, info or whatever for the Red Hood DLC isn't it?
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# ? May 27, 2015 21:55 |
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Terminally Bored posted:Does anyone else have this feeling that the game will be underwhelming? I'm asking as a big fan of Asylum and City, got the game with 970. The previews look like it's more of the same but with the Batmobile which doesn't look that fun to begin with. And the game has like 5 preorder DLC packs already because WB is a poo poo publisher. I'm expecting the game to be better than Asylum or City if anything. Origins being janky made sense on account of it being a different studio picking up the framework that was already there, but Rocksteady should be more than comfortable with the franchise by now. They don't have to worry about putting out a good first product, they already have an established formula that works and they can go crazy with it now that this is (presumably) the final game in the series.
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# ? May 27, 2015 21:56 |
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Terminally Bored posted:Does anyone else have this feeling that the game will be underwhelming? I'm asking as a big fan of Asylum and City, got the game with 970. The previews look like it's more of the same but with the Batmobile which doesn't look that fun to begin with. And the game has like 5 preorder DLC packs already because WB is a poo poo publisher. I've decided to just think of it as Arkham City, Version 2 or something. Thinking that it's going to be God's gift to Batman is just silly, honestly. To be honest, the Batmobile thing is feeling more like a gimmick the more they constantly remind us that it's in the game... I got sick of the behind the scenes videos since all that annoying guy in the first one did was overhype the gently caress out of it as if people were THAT excited. It'll be, at the very worst, a decent game. At it's best, it'll be a drat good superhero game (but it's not hard to be a good superhero video game anyway...there really aren't many good ones to begin with). I'll just think of it as a 1080p version of Arkham City but replace Joker with Scarecrow and Ra's al Ghoul with Arkham Knight. It'll be alright. At least there's no multiplayer...glad it's not shoehorned in.
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# ? May 27, 2015 21:56 |
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Terminally Bored posted:Does anyone else have this feeling that the game will be underwhelming? I'm asking as a big fan of Asylum and City, got the game with 970. The previews look like it's more of the same but with the Batmobile which doesn't look that fun to begin with. And the game has like 5 preorder DLC packs already because WB is a poo poo publisher. At this point the game would have to cure AIDS to live up to the hype, but that doesn't mean that it'll be a bad game if it doesn't. Even if it's "only" as good as City or Asylum, that's still a pretty good game.
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# ? May 27, 2015 22:13 |
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The one thing I don't like of what I know about Arkham Knight is all the preorder bonus poo poo, but that's just how every other big game works these days.
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# ? May 27, 2015 22:18 |
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I'm paying 40 extra dollars for a full price game, i don't give a gently caress if it's over or underwhelming
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# ? May 27, 2015 22:25 |
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ThermoPhysical posted:At least there's no multiplayer...glad it's not shoehorned in. The multiplayer was by far the best part of Origins, and I would have loved to see it polished and iterated on.
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# ? May 28, 2015 00:17 |
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I would say just buy the base game. The whole game itself should stand alone and any extra DLC on top is, well, extra. You can maybe make the argument if it's really well integrated into the base game that it might've been cut out but there's no Catwoman-level stuff on display this time around. Looks a lot like extra Batman skins and a few mission packs or challenge map stuff. I have no faith in the season pass amounting to much unless I start seeing something like even a rudimentary release schedule like DICE does with Battlefield's. 6 months of content might as well mean 4 skins everyone 2 months and then a story DLC at the very end. The season pass as it stands isn't worth it until more information comes up or they start rolling out stuff worth buying from it. Was Deathstroke a pre-order only thing for Origins? Cause it's not a separate entry on Steam even in my listed DLC, so I assume everyone eventually got it? Wouldn't be surprised if they eventually rolled up all the pre-order skins into packs later into release. I think that's what mostly happened with Origins anyway.
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# ? May 28, 2015 01:45 |
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I'm worried that Red Hood will just have a loving retractable stick just like robin, and his batarang attack is actually replaced by Joker's quick Gunshot. So basically almost like Origin's Deathstroke, except lazier. I'm worried Rocksteady will pull a Montreal on this one, that's how worried i am about putting down 60 bucks for this poo poo.
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# ? May 28, 2015 01:50 |
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i think this game is going to be good and also fun
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# ? May 28, 2015 01:56 |
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im gonna run over a dude with the Batmobile non-lethally of course
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# ? May 28, 2015 04:16 |
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CharlestonJew posted:im gonna run over a dude with the Batmobile So long as you pepper that motherfucker with rubber bullets BEFORE you run him over with 15 tons of flashy carbon fiber.
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# ? May 28, 2015 05:29 |
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Fargin Icehole posted:I'm worried that Red Hood will just have a loving retractable stick just like robin, and his batarang attack is actually replaced by Joker's quick Gunshot. So basically almost like Origin's Deathstroke, except lazier. I only preordered because of an awesome NZ/Aus deal that some rad dude linked in this thread. If are worried then don't preorder and just wait for the reviews/goon opinions. If you're worried about missing out on the preorder bonuses I'm pretty sure there are a lot of websites these days that sell packs with preorder bonuses as well. I have to admit the god-awful animation in the batman/robin coop video made me a bit weary.
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# ? May 28, 2015 05:33 |
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Terminally Bored posted:Does anyone else have this feeling that the game will be underwhelming? I'm asking as a big fan of Asylum and City, got the game with 970. The previews look like it's more of the same but with the Batmobile which doesn't look that fun to begin with. And the game has like 5 preorder DLC packs already because WB is a poo poo publisher. Yes and no. There's not so much to the formula that can be changed. I like some of the new combat features like environmental takedowns, Batmobile takedowns, and being to glide directly into vents. It's all polishing to make a better product, rather than make radical changes to it.
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# ? May 28, 2015 05:51 |
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For me, the bigger open world of City and Origins was not an improvement over the tight well paced setting of asylum. So the major new hook this game has of bigger city + bat mobile doesn't necessarily have me that excited. However, a huge draw with these games is how well they integrate and and use the characters from the batman universe in the gameplay and setting. I am talking about stuff like the scarecrow moments in the first game, and clayface being in that one cell etc. If there are a bunch of cool moments like these in Arkham Knight then I think I am onboard.
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# ? May 28, 2015 05:52 |
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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/batman-arkham-knight-preorder-bonuses/1100-6427627/ Want to preorder....well there are at least 8 versions you can pick from. I seriously hope the Best Buy preorder is just early unlocks or something. Basically, unless you preordered at Best Buy, you lose out on some abilities. Apparently, you can't set explosive traps anymore unless you got it from BB. The gently caress? I'm kind of glad this is the last Arkham game now if WB is going to do poo poo like this..
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:15 |
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ThermoPhysical posted:Apparently, you can't set explosive traps anymore unless you got it from BB. The gently caress? I'm 99% certain it's just an early unlock of an upgrade you would otherwise have to earn with experience points in game. Tomb Raider also had preorder packs that featured early skill unlocks.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:24 |
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I didn't realize Steam had an exclusive skin pack. That's nice I guess, even if it's not actual missions like the PS4.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:27 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm-6kYvPEdM new gameplay video. and gameinformer did a handson. http://www.arkhamverse.com/news/2015/05/crime-scene-detailed-in-gameinformer-hands-on/
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# ? May 28, 2015 16:53 |
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The tank sections look unfun.
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# ? May 28, 2015 16:57 |
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this is one of the games I won't think twice about preordering because Rocksteady. I doubt it will be a bust or anything of the sort. They know Origins was a crapshoot and they'd really have to try hard to gently caress this up. I am wondering whether or not to get it on PC or PS4 though. I can run Witcher 3 at 40FPS with everything on High so I figure this would run ok as well.
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# ? May 28, 2015 17:03 |
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I'll continue to trust Rocksteady- whatever small missteps were made in AC, the reality is they have really excellent high-level workflow and design, and equally excellent detail work. That's a very rare combination. This could be the game that demonstrates my trust was unfounded, but so far their record is spotless. I don't know of any other present companies (maybe Retro?) who I can say that about. edit: that said, there's one obstacle preventing me from getting the whole 90 dollar season pass thing- I'd also need a completely new computer to run the game. Bad generation timing. edit 2: Idea: what if Adam West Batman had sound effect titles in combat? BAM WOOSH CRUNCH OOF Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 17:37 on May 28, 2015 |
# ? May 28, 2015 17:34 |
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The trust in Rocksteady is unfounded. They've made two Arkham games and Urban Chaos: Riot Response for the PS2 and XBox. This is their first game on new hardware (Ubisoft with 1000+ person teams couldn't make the jump effectively as shown with Assassin's Creed Unity). Arkham City was already suffering from some minor feature creep in the open world littered with loving ugly Riddler trophies; feature creep that could be made much worse with the inclusion of the Batmobile and racing challenges and tank modes.
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# ? May 28, 2015 17:45 |
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The Riddler Trophy are like the only open-world collectable I've ever enjoyed. I'm not clear why people dislike them so much. They make exploring worthwhile and are fun minor puzzles for the most part.
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# ? May 28, 2015 17:50 |
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I liked collecting Riddler trophies too, so I dunno, different strokes man. As for Ubisoft, they're constant gently caress ups and I don't ever trust them to do anything right. Rocksteady has yet to fail me and I'll trust them til they do.
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# ? May 28, 2015 17:54 |
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AngryBooch posted:The trust in Rocksteady is unfounded. They've made two Arkham games and Urban Chaos: Riot Response for the PS2 and XBox. This is their first game on new hardware (Ubisoft with 1000+ person teams couldn't make the jump effectively as shown with Assassin's Creed Unity). Arkham City was already suffering from some minor feature creep in the open world littered with loving ugly Riddler trophies; feature creep that could be made much worse with the inclusion of the Batmobile and racing challenges and tank modes. how you can compare this to Ubisoft is loving beyond me because they just suck at their jobs entirely and Unity was garbage. Studios like Klei, Next Level, or (for a time) Retro all had relatively small resumes for games but none of that matters if you've proven to be competent. This game is still in the same Unreal 3 engine, why on earth would it suddenly melt this time.
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# ? May 28, 2015 17:54 |
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And the Riddler trophies were ugly as gently caress. I remember the first time Arkham City kicked Batman out into the open world and thinking how ugly all these neon green question marks every hundred yards was. In Asylum they were actually, you know, hidden. MinibarMatchman posted:how you can compare this to Ubisoft is loving beyond me because they just suck at their jobs entirely and Unity was garbage. Studios like Klei, Next Level, or (for a time) Retro all had relatively small resumes for games but none of that matters if you've proven to be competent. This game is still in the same Unreal 3 engine, why on earth would it suddenly melt this time. Assassin's Creed Unity was on Anvil Next just like AC3 and AC4 and somehow surpassed those two in terms of technical hiccups. Two games does not a reputation make is all I'm saying.
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# ? May 28, 2015 18:00 |
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The riddler trophies were great. They sucked in Origins but I enjoyed them in Asylum and City. Asylum was great because it made you focus on things that weren't there or provided little easter eggs. Like how Firefly was mentioned in Asylum. City had some pretty great ones too. It's not just oh hey go here and here to get them. It was pretty cool having a puzzle to unlock them. Also, you are comparing them to Ubisoft who has been milking rear end Creed for years. This is what? The third title for these guys? I have more trust they can do a way better job than Ubisoft because at least Rocksteady hasn't milked Batman to death. (I mean WB is) Two titles is more than enough because both were good games. Asylum was goddamn great and so was City. Shindragon fucked around with this message at 18:03 on May 28, 2015 |
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Shindragon posted:The riddler trophies were great. They sucked in Origins but I enjoyed them in Asylum and City. Asylum was great because it made you focus on things that weren't there or provided little easter eggs. Like how Firefly was mentioned in Asylum. City had some pretty great ones too. It's not just oh hey go here and here to get them. It was pretty cool having a puzzle to unlock them. it's actually for the best that this is the last batman game, gives it a reason to aim high and go out on a good note
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# ? May 28, 2015 18:09 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm-6kYvPEdM The game seems really dark. It could just be my monitor but I had a hard time seeing what was going on in that fight from the video. Ditto for the driving. Also, from the fight, I'm not a fan of the hit special effects. They seem excessively flashy especially when they are colored blue and red.
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# ? May 28, 2015 18:18 |
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MinibarMatchman posted:it's actually for the best that this is the last batman game, gives it a reason to aim high and go out on a good note Oh I agree, I would like to see Rocksteady tackle another super hero series. The third title should hopefully go out with a bang.
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# ? May 28, 2015 18:29 |
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Discendo Vox posted:edit 2: Idea: what if Adam West Batman had sound effect titles in combat? BAM WOOSH CRUNCH OOF
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# ? May 28, 2015 18:30 |
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If wanting Adam West to come into the studio and record a few interrogation lines is wrong, I don't wanna be right redbackground.
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# ? May 28, 2015 19:03 |
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It's a shame having a passenger doesn't seem to matter to the gameplay with the tank. It'd be nice if you could hear Ivy or whoever making sarcastic commentary or backseat driving. There also better be more to Ivy in the game than that. Brutakas posted:The game seems really dark. It could just be my monitor but I had a hard time seeing what was going on in that fight from the video. Ditto for the driving. Also, from the fight, I'm not a fan of the hit special effects. They seem excessively flashy especially when they are colored blue and red. It's your monitor, it was perfectly clear for me.
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# ? May 28, 2015 19:07 |
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ThermoPhysical posted:http://www.gamespot.com/articles/batman-arkham-knight-preorder-bonuses/1100-6427627/ They've already stated that those are early unlocks. Quit freaking out.
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# ? May 28, 2015 19:09 |
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hard counter posted:If wanting Adam West to come into the studio and record a few interrogation lines is wrong, I don't wanna be right redbackground. I was also happy to see that my early guess as to what the Breakout counter would look like was correct:
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# ? May 28, 2015 19:13 |
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What if the Arkham Knight is a hallucination and the whole game is a dream
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