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DGK2000 posted:I think she said the word IF. I don't see an implication of 4 scum. If gridlock was the only scum, he couldn't just hammer right now and win the game because then we'd just go to the next day.
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DGK2000 posted:Oh, no. Her views happen to coincide with mine, and I'll take it. This too, I was the first to see Bowmore being a huge loving liar
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:06 |
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Quandary posted:If gridlock was the only scum, he couldn't just hammer right now and win the game because then we'd just go to the next day. If you're not scum, than your vote would be on gridlock. You know me, you've played with me, you know I'm not good enough to be the last scum alive.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:07 |
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Quandary posted:If gridlock was the only scum, he couldn't just hammer right now and win the game because then we'd just go to the next day. This is actually false. If you were the last copping role and I hammered now I'd just win. No way is there one more cop.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:07 |
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Seriously though - go look at DC and bowmore's interactions day 1. They spend a lot of time bickering and arguing and calling each other scummy, but its all so forced. I commented way earlier in the game that I didn't understand why DC was all over bowmore for lying about a joke vote and I thought it was a weirdly terrible case at the time, but looking back I'm pretty sure it was forced distancing between two scum buddies.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:09 |
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Quandary posted:Seriously though - go look at DC and bowmore's interactions day 1. They spend a lot of time bickering and arguing and calling each other scummy, but its all so forced. I commented way earlier in the game that I didn't understand why DC was all over bowmore for lying about a joke vote and I thought it was a weirdly terrible case at the time, but looking back I'm pretty sure it was forced distancing between two scum buddies. If that was true then I would have been lynched day 1. gently caress you
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:09 |
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Quandary posted:Seriously though - go look at DC and bowmore's interactions day 1. They spend a lot of time bickering and arguing and calling each other scummy, but its all so forced. I commented way earlier in the game that I didn't understand why DC was all over bowmore for lying about a joke vote and I thought it was a weirdly terrible case at the time, but looking back I'm pretty sure it was forced distancing between two scum buddies. gently caress you and everything you stand for.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:10 |
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I am feeling a lot of pressure from DGK and DC to just hammer Quandary. That makes me feel off about it, I really wanna see what QPQ has to say first. That way if QPQ is undecided as well at least I know my issues are not unfounded, and if QPQ drops the hammer and he is wrong at least I don't feel guilty for falling into a trap.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:10 |
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Gridlocked posted:This is actually false. If you were the last copping role and I hammered now I'd just win. No way is there one more cop. It's possible I'm being dumb - if you are the scum and lynched me right now, then killed one QPQ or something, then the next day it would be 3 alive with 1 scum and the game wouldn't be over? I'm not sure how a copping role has any relevance here, especially since ecco made all the cops in the gameworthless.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:10 |
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Dead Cow posted:gently caress you and everything you stand for. Just a game, buddy.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:11 |
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Quandary posted:Seriously though - go look at DC and bowmore's interactions day 1. They spend a lot of time bickering and arguing and calling each other scummy, but its all so forced. I commented way earlier in the game that I didn't understand why DC was all over bowmore for lying about a joke vote and I thought it was a weirdly terrible case at the time, but looking back I'm pretty sure it was forced distancing between two scum buddies. I figured that poo poo out from the very beginning of his comments on Kleedrac, don't you take that poo poo away from me rear end in a top hat. I DID A GOOD MAFIA THING. I FOUND THE BAD GUY.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:11 |
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Dead Cow posted:I figured that poo poo out from the very beginning of his comments on Kleedrac, don't you take that poo poo away from me rear end in a top hat. I DID A GOOD MAFIA THING. I FOUND THE BAD GUY. His comments on Kleedrac weren't scummy though, regardless of him flipping scum. You attacked him on a really bad case to distance yourself if one you did flip.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:12 |
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Gridlocked posted:I am feeling a lot of pressure from DGK and DC to just hammer Quandary. That makes me feel off about it, I really wanna see what QPQ has to say first. The pressure is on because if you hammer Quandary and he flips scum, we win.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:12 |
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Quandary posted:His comments on Kleedrac weren't scummy though, regardless of him flipping scum. You attacked him on a really bad case to distance yourself if one you did flip. No, it was extremely scummy and I stuck by it through MULTIPLE GAME DAYS. How is that distancing?
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:12 |
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Quandary posted:It's possible I'm being dumb - if you are the scum and lynched me right now, then killed one QPQ or something, then the next day it would be 3 alive with 1 scum and the game wouldn't be over? I'm not sure how a copping role has any relevance here, especially since ecco made all the cops in the gameworthless. If I lynched you now, you flip Cop aren't you the last cop role and ergo I'd win? I thought scum win when all cop roles are dead? Or am I totally wrong about the rules?
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:13 |
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Gridlocked posted:If I lynched you now, you flip Cop aren't you the last cop role and ergo I'd win? I thought scum win when all cop roles are dead? Or am I totally wrong about the rules? Scum win when they control the vote, I was wrong about the count if there's one scum left.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:14 |
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Dead Cow posted:No, it was extremely scummy and I stuck by it through MULTIPLE GAME DAYS. How is that distancing? Thats exactly distancing. Putting constant pressure on someone but never enough to get them lynched. Gridlocked posted:If I lynched you now, you flip Cop aren't you the last cop role and ergo I'd win? I thought scum win when all cop roles are dead? Or am I totally wrong about the rules? Scum win when they outnumber the town . Roles are irrelevant to win conditions.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:14 |
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Quandary posted:Thats exactly distancing. Putting constant pressure on someone but never enough to get them lynched. Because no one would believe me!
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:15 |
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Quandary posted:Scum win when they outnumber the town . Roles are irrelevant to win conditions. Ah, that makes more sense. Am kinda tempted to hammer you now just because it could force a win; but if I'm wrong I know for sure DC is gonna go "IT WAS GRIDLOKED THE WHOLE TIME!" and so will DGK.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:16 |
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Gridlocked posted:Ah, that makes more sense. Am kinda tempted to hammer you now just because it could force a win; but if I'm wrong I know for sure DC is gonna go "IT WAS GRIDLOKED THE WHOLE TIME!" and so will DGK. I am also just as happy to vote for DC and leave it up to QPQ to decide. That absolves both my conscience and takes the pressure off.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:17 |
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Quandary posted:Would also vote DGK. Lots of posting but very little substance. He tried to get involved in that dumb loving 'gotcha' on bowmore, and looked to characterize the vote on dead cow as a policy lynch when there was a lot of evidence behind it. Lots of white noise posting. Defense of bowmore, heavily trying to mischaracterize my posts. Throws shade on DC as well for suspicion of Bowmore. This is pretty heavily defensive posting. Quandary posted:1. Meta is a pretty bad argument and I don't agree with it, and moreover it's one of the easier arguments to make to characterize a case. I don't like that you also added a conditional "unless its changed" in there as an out as well. More bowmore defense and mischaracterization of my posts. Quandary posted:Rereading over bowmore and a few of the votes on him, j really do not see it. It strikes me as bowmore was being lazy d1 but didn't read as particularly scummy, and most of the votes on him are based on joke vote stuff or his reaction to calls out on his joke vote stuff and I really disagree with them. Would not vote. Look, even more Bowmore defense. Quandary posted:I could see a meinberg vote, but I think Shanakin and DGK are much better votes. Go look at Shanakin for me please Starts defending Meinberg here. Quandary posted:Yeah posts like these are newbie scum 101. Very happy with my vote on shanakin, though I'd switch to dgk or meinberg or DC I guess if that's the way the wind pushes. Not pictured: Calling Shanakin scum for wanting to lynch Bowmore. Quandary posted:Bowmore how do you feel about dgk and shanakin? Gives his buddy a chance to put down opinions on him calling me scummy. Quandary posted:We're -1 to lynching DGK. Someone unvote so we dont lynch and waste a ton of good discussion time. Scum say this poo poo all the time for town cred. Quandary posted:I feel extraordinarly strongly about Shanakin being newbie scum. A lot of this is basically pushing on Shanakin. Quandary posted:It would be extremely silly at this point to distrust the cop claim or assume a godfather role. They're both possibilities, but far less likely than the most likely suggestion which is that grandi is telling the truth and that DGK is town This, when Grandi claimed. There is no loving way he would say this if he was indeed a paranoid cop, as it incredibly undermines his later claim by showing that he has no knowledge of sanity.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:17 |
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Gridlocked posted:I am also just as happy to vote for DC and leave it up to QPQ to decide. That absolves both my conscience and takes the pressure off. Please, hammer Quandary and have the town win.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:19 |
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Quandary posted:It's possible I'm being dumb - if you are the scum and lynched me right now, then killed one QPQ or something, then the next day it would be 3 alive with 1 scum and the game wouldn't be over? I'm not sure how a copping role has any relevance here, especially since ecco made all the cops in the gameworthless. This is pure bullshit because of my last point. You had zero knowledge of any sanity variations when Grandi claimed.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:19 |
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Quandary posted:Thats exactly distancing. Putting constant pressure on someone but never enough to get them lynched. No, it's not. Distancing is when you make a few points on them and drop it. It's like you have no idea what the word means.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:20 |
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DGK2000 posted:This is pure bullshit because of my last point. You had zero knowledge of any sanity variations when Grandi claimed. I didn't have any knowledge when Grandi claimed. I only realized sanity was an issue when I got a scum read on him and he flipped naive and town when I put it together. I have no idea what lie you're trying to catch me in here.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:20 |
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Quandary posted:I didn't have any knowledge when Grandi claimed. I only realized sanity was an issue when I got a scum read on him and he flipped naive and town when I put it together. I have no idea what lie you're trying to catch me in here. Im saying that if you were actually a paranoid cop, you would have counter claimed Grandicap, because your role PM said YOU were the cop.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:22 |
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DGK2000 posted:Im saying that if you were actually a paranoid cop, you would have counter claimed Grandicap, because your role PM said YOU were the cop. Oh yeah, especially if he got a scum on Grandi
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:23 |
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Dead Cow posted:Oh yeah, especially if he got a scum on Grandi So, give up?
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:24 |
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Dead Cow posted:Please, hammer Quandary and have the town win. Now see this is where I am stumped. If I vote for you and QPQ votes as DGK reckons he will then you get the lynch you want anyway. If I vote for Quandary and he flips good, then you just got a lynch without QPQ's involvement. It seems like you are trying to do this. Why?
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:25 |
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Might help you guys to read a bit as well.Quandary posted:Alright, might as well claim since I'm pretty sure my role is worthless. My flavor name is Ezra Noor, and I'm a cop, though I'm fairly confident I'm a paranoid cop. My role pm also mentions that I grew up with a brother who I learned all my detective skills with so there may be other cops in the game, which is why I wasn't jumping up and down to attack Grandi day 2 when he claimed. Also I investigated Grandi N2 in response to his claim, I hadn't gotten a scum result on him at the point where he claimed.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:25 |
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##unvote
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:26 |
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Im assuming Grandi got the same message about there being other cops, but obviously didn't mention it. I'm assuming this also played a role in him claiming so early as he figured he wasn't the only cop.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:27 |
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Quandary posted:Might help you guys to read a bit as well. Then it's gridlock
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:28 |
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Dead Cow posted:Oh yeah, especially if he got a scum on Grandi Quandary claimed he investigated Grandi on night 2. He had no way of knowing he was the paranoid cop before that. He was able to deduce that from the fact the returned scum results on both investigations, the guy he investigated was in fact a cop and that that cop was a naive cop which let him deduce that he must be the paranoid opposite. Also DGK2000 posted:Im saying that if you were actually a paranoid cop, you would have counter claimed Grandicap, because your role PM said YOU were the cop. It would have said he was A cop role not THE cop role. Unless cops get to know each other at the start? Or unless Ecco played set this up slightly differently to what I have been lead to believe is the norm.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:28 |
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Quandary posted:Might help you guys to read a bit as well. I'm assuming you're bullshitting, because it's pretty easy to add that well after a cop flip.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:29 |
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I went back and saw that Quandary cased Shan right after day 2 opened, that's why I unvoted.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:29 |
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Dead Cow posted:Then it's gridlock It's not meeeeee.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:29 |
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Gridlocked posted:It's not meeeeee. And it's not me
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:30 |
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Grandicap posted:It is still holiday weekend and I am only reading in the barest of senses, but there are more votes than I am comfortable with flying at DGK. This is a terrible idea with a flipped doc already, but. No, he wasn't going to be around much.
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# ? May 28, 2015 06:30 |
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Dead Cow posted:And it's not me Cooooooould be QPQ?
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