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pram
Jun 10, 2001
the handsome elite w/ impeccable taste

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Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

celeron 300a posted:

it always takes me a half minute to think about what that means

I hate the fact that this metaphor is so popular, because it doesn't intuitively make sense to me

I'm just going to say "free as in adobe flash" vs "free as in mozilla firefox" and those who actually care will understand what I mean

arguing about copyright metaphors in the desktop linux thread

Yeah, what is it with this "not free as in beer" bullshit. I want the free beer.

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge
free beer is always terrible though

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

Phoenixan posted:

free beer is always terrible though

what if you DIY it

pram
Jun 10, 2001
uhh is that full of open source beer

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

pram posted:

uhh is that full of open source beer

i suspect it's onyl free as in beer

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Mr Dog posted:

Use vmware player instead, it's not linux's fault that virtualbox is shite

yeah, I should just buy a license and do that, if it has better 3D support

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

Suspicious Dish posted:

Yeah, what is it with this "not free as in beer" bullshit. I want the free beer.

what if I gave you free beer but in return I get to sell your browsing history to advertisers?

Captain Pike
Jul 29, 2003

Suspicious Dish posted:

Yeah, what is it with this "not free as in beer" bullshit. I want the free beer.

open source weirdos should just drop the "free" bullshit. Its confusing to normal people and no one gives a poo poo about the "freedom" of the user or whatever that garbage means

pram
Jun 10, 2001
open source is good enough imo

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

pram posted:

open source is good enough imo

and it's free, so, i dont see the issue here.

you download it, run it, never pay for it, it's free

no reason to double-emphasize the obvious

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



just say gratis instead

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.

Subjunctive posted:

yeah, I should just buy a license and do that, if it has better 3D support

player is free

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

Snapchat A Titty posted:

just say gratis instead

or just say 'free'

pram
Jun 10, 2001
open like the english commons, not open like beer

nosl
Jan 17, 2015

CHIM, bitch!
lol we are still having this argument in 2015

cowboy beepboop
Feb 24, 2001

beer makes you rly fat

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
sorry for your floss

k-zed
Dec 1, 2008

Fallen Rib
beer can be free, but there's no such thing as "freedom" or "liberty"

those are bourgeois concepts that don't actually make sense

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

Sniep posted:

and it's free, so, i dont see the issue here.

you download it, run it, never pay for it, it's free

no reason to double-emphasize the obvious

rms is spinning in his grave

which is his spider plant free dorm room or something

oh no blimp issue
Feb 23, 2011

lol if you actually care about software freedom

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

triple sulk posted:

does anyone still use slackware, i'm not really asking this sarcastically. i know it is still in development (albeit probably really slow release cycles) but i can't picture more than like three people running it in 2015

slackware was my first distro, and i still have fond memories :allears:

Maximum Leader
Dec 5, 2014

Forums Terrorist posted:

what about mac os x, the shittiest of unixes

stick to your loving primitive Linux, rear end in a top hat. gently caress you

Maximum Leader
Dec 5, 2014
free as in bullshit trash for poors.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



free as in worthless

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Snapchat A Titty posted:

free as in worthless

well yes this is the linux thread

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?
free as in dumpster

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Wild EEPROM posted:

player is free

not for commercial use, as I read the license.

Valeyard
Mar 30, 2012


Grimey Drawer
i need a smallish netbook that has an ok battery and doesnt need to be very powerful, im ok with having a linux and im guessing this is a usecase for the chomebook but idk

http://www.johnlewis.com/toshiba-cb30-b-104-chromebook-intel-celeron-4gb-ram-16gb-ssd-13-3-silver/

is there anything else in that range that would be better

eric
Apr 27, 2004
Lipstick Apathy
Netflix offers native Linux support when using Google Chrome. I don't have to trick Netflix into thinking I'm using Windows or Mac, nor do I need to play 'whack-a-mole" regarding that.

My Grandpa (he's 97) now uses Linux, as does my mother (she's 58), as does my nieces (15, 12, 6) and of course that means my sister and her husband (31, 35). And they're not alone.

Linux plays games (Steam) and can open any Microsoft Office document, including Apple documents too. Hardware support is just as competitive... Long gone are the days when I needed to hunt for a driver. So like it or not, there is a new game in town.

A lot of people I know left Windows when Windows Vista came out. Even more left after the release of Windows 8 / 8.1. And with Windows 10 all but requiring a Microsoft Account to benefit almost anything it offers, plus the the complete layout change again..... Linux is what I've been installing on people's NEW and OLD PC's.

Usually Debian flavored (Debian / Ubuntu / Mint), but OpenSuSe is also something that I'm finding people wanting.

Like it or not... Linux is gaining ground. The last time someone needed help with Windows was December 2014.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

eric posted:

Netflix offers native Linux support when using Google Chrome. I don't have to trick Netflix into thinking I'm using Windows or Mac, nor do I need to play 'whack-a-mole" regarding that.

My Grandpa (he's 97) now uses Linux, as does my mother (she's 58), as does my nieces (15, 12, 6) and of course that means my sister and her husband (31, 35). And they're not alone.

Linux plays games (Steam) and can open any Microsoft Office document, including Apple documents too. Hardware support is just as competitive... Long gone are the days when I needed to hunt for a driver. So like it or not, there is a new game in town.

A lot of people I know left Windows when Windows Vista came out. Even more left after the release of Windows 8 / 8.1. And with Windows 10 all but requiring a Microsoft Account to benefit almost anything it offers, plus the the complete layout change again..... Linux is what I've been installing on people's NEW and OLD PC's.

Usually Debian flavored (Debian / Ubuntu / Mint), but OpenSuSe is also something that I'm finding people wanting.

Like it or not... Linux is gaining ground. The last time someone needed help with Windows was December 2014.

source you are quotes

Perplx
Jun 26, 2004


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Lipstick Apathy

eric posted:

....

Linux plays games (Steam) and can open any Microsoft Office document, including Apple documents too.
....

i haven't been able to open my company's monstrous activex macro enabled .xlsx on anything but Office on x86 Windows

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

I've seen macro OpenXML files normally with the odd .xlsm extension that Google Docs seems to completely hate. I guess it is classic Microsoft coming up with all theses different retarded file types.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Perplx posted:

i haven't been able to open my company's monstrous activex macro enabled .xlsx on anything but Office on x86 Windows

does it even work on anything post xp/ie6?

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

Perplx posted:

i haven't been able to open my company's monstrous activex macro enabled .xlsx on anything but Office on x86 Windows

why haven't you packaged the spreadsheet up in a Docker VM yet?

Perplx
Jun 26, 2004


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Lipstick Apathy

The_Franz posted:

does it even work on anything post xp/ie6?

it works on office 2007 on xp to office 2016 on windows 10

but it doesn't work on any mac version of office, or wine
i doubt it would work on Office RT

it should be rewritten as a web app but thats not my job

pram
Jun 10, 2001

pseudorandom name posted:

why haven't you packaged the spreadsheet up in a Docker VM yet?

lol

cowboy beepboop
Feb 24, 2001

pseudorandom name posted:

why haven't you packaged the spreadsheet up in a Docker VM yet?

use xenapp to push real excel to your linux desktop

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

my stepdads beer posted:

use xenapp to push real excel to your linux desktop

use sccm and pxe to push windows to your linux desktop

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Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
accidentally corrupt all copies of it in existence so they have to pay someone to rewrite it as a web app

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