njsykora posted:

I do agree with that guy that TNA's roster isn't exactly loaded with talent and it wouldn't benefit ROH at all to do a crossover show.

Nut Bunnies posted:

The parallels between TNA Mecca and Hillary is 44 are amazing. We'll be getting "This is good news!!! For TNA!!!" any day now.

Nut Bunnies posted:

The parallels between TNA Mecca and Hillary is 44 are amazing. We'll be getting "This is good news!!! For TNA!!!" any day now.

BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:

The big difference between Hillary and TNA is that Hillary will be on TV next year.

Nut Bunnies posted:

The parallels between TNA Mecca and Hillary is 44 are amazing. We'll be getting "This is good news!!! For TNA!!!" any day now.

RZApublican posted:

epitasis posted:

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Name: BJC1990 : 2015-05-24 09:44
I'm barely a fan of this crap we call modern-day PW, I've been dirt poor all my life. I once bought into the idea that the indys were better the poo poo on the tv. Then I discover that as indy wrestlers put on much better matches, some of the storylines are still full of the same ol' crap I see on tv, that I was trying to escape from. I've discovered PW in late 2007, at the end of the ruthless aggression era. I agree that The PG Era killed has all but WWE. Thats why, in 2008, I switched to TNA the second I discovered. I seen the writing on the wall. Was nvr into ROH much as it was just a ripoff origonal ECW, but I tried. Then came The Brisco Bro's to turn me off from ROH for yrs to come. Back in early 2007, I researched the living hell out of the history of the PW industry & WWE alike. In the process I've learned every little weakness (& strength) of WWE. I know their every weakness & exactly how to take them out & take their spot. Repeal & replace. I have countless ideas how to revolutionize this industry. All I need now is afew more lessons I can't learn via the internet. Afew hand-on lessons on how to run a pro wrestling promotion, & alot of money & I'm all gd to go. The idea of creating my very own wrestling promo has been bugging me since 2007. I looked at WWE when turn I was 18 & said with surety, "I can do better then this." The idea comes & goes, & refuses to leave me be for gd. I'm dirt poor & I flat suck at social networking, but I seem to be natual at marketing & managing a bisness. I'm thinking about getting the money through crowdsourcing/funding. I think its time to bring back legitimate, timed/clocked, matches...no rounds ofcourse, I'm not going that farrr. I want the ME to truly voted for by the fans, or truly fan-made. Fans can vote for the stipulation &/or who will peticipate in the ME match. Champion's open challenge to the world? No problem. Any pro wrestler or fan on Earth, even if under WWE contract, can take the challenge. Just sign the waver that states that my company IS NOT responsible for any bodily harm, & that you wrestle on your own behalf, & not for any company. The wrestlers would be paid 40% of whatever money the fans bid on them when the when. The loser only gets $1,000-2,500. No one bids on you or your match? You get paid the defualt amount of $1,000. Camras on drones & body cam on the refferies for the best viewing experience possible. One of my ideas is to have pressure sensors under the mat to send info to the commentaters laptop to give them scientific fun facts to share with the fan a wrestler gets chokeslammed for exp. Some names I'd like on my early days roster to put my promo on the map; The Von-Eric Bro's. Ted Dibease Jr. & his brother, Jeremy Blanchard, Kid Kash, Divari, that ??? Fish guy & Richie steambout, & Samoa Joe would be nice, but thats just wishful thinking. Thats my pipedream idea that I'm really contemplating as of late. Is it worth my money to do this? Would you, as a fan, like to see this become a reallity? If so, would you get behind it? I always say, starting a wrestling promo today, is like buying a circus in 1925. Is it worth the risk/gamble? Tell me what you think, & feel free share your ideas & opinions, plz. Wrestling for the fans, by the fans.

super macho dude posted:

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SpaceWolfPurrp posted:

??? Fish Guy would be a way better name for Bobby

super macho dude posted:

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super macho dude posted:

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Beef Jerky Robot posted:

I am a marketing wunderkind who doesn't know how twitter works

Davros1 posted:

Or spell check.

epitasis posted:

when u get worked

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Chris Regal vantheman77
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I imagine Richards and Edwards are happy with the money they're making in TNA and are quite content getting a regular paycheck

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Breaking Kayfabe: Terry Brunk (Sabu) DVD Review
May 19, 2015 By: Joe Babinsack Category: WWE | Pro Wrestling

It’s easy to oversell the Breaking Kayfabe series. Unlike the “shoot” type interviews of the past two decades, we’re starting out with a more serious look at professional wrestling: by looking at the person (and not the persona), by looking at the humanity (and not the work), by looking deeply at the talent and not just the talent of telling tales.

With the seemingly 70’s style music (hearkening to a time when distinctions between work and shoot were much more distinct) and the efforts of emcee extraordinaire Sean Oliver weaving his way through potentially hostile answers, this is a completely serious effort and one of the most important projects in the history of this business.

(I mean, if the WWE continues to control 98% of the industry, this sort of reflection about wrestlers with different styles will become moot. If the WWE disintegrates into oblivion, it’s much the same. Either way, some promoter in the year 2050 may want to re-invent the sport. If that’s the case, there’s a lot of reading between the lines of these interviews to figure out how to approach it).


Professional wrestlers are often awesome (if not awfully incapable of self-reflection) at spinning things, playing a role, putting themselves at the center of attention, putting themselves out of the picture, or otherwise playing sleight-of-hand tricks that they learned in the ring to avert the eyes of the viewer from their ability to work every angle.
Yeah, I just read Conrad’s Heart of Darkness, so I’m deep in psychological reflection, and deeper still in the descent into madness that is this industry.

But SABU, more humanly known as Terry Brunk, isn’t a man with that level of problem with reality.

Even when deflecting his battle with depression (in rapid succession his losing his wife to divorce, his mother passing, as well as his dog – and having the cops and paramedics called due to being “somatose” – lends a lot of credence to the contrary) he’s riding an even keel, speaking his mind and there’s a sense of sanity here that few others reach on any of these types of interviews.

One cannot discount Oliver’s participation, though.

So many “Shoot” interviews are filled with crap, lack of focus or any semblance of industry, cultural or historical significance. The shift to the Breaking Kayfabe concept moved Kayfabe Commentaries to a vastly more legitimate format, one that avoids the drugs, sex and vulgarity, plus allowed the talent to “put their working shoes on” since the subject matter called for it.

What I’ve grown to admire from Sean Oliver is his ability to shape the direction with questions about others. This time, he elicits a lot of insight about Sabu by asking questions about the Sheik. We learn more about Sabu as a person by hearing him talk about his biggest influence, and see glimpses of personality, industry approaches, and family from this approach.

Writing about those insights to retell the interview does no one justice (not Sean, not Terry and not this writer) so I’ll leave the emotional, personal and deep details on the screen for the viewer to enjoy. For me as a reviewer, the important parts are what is said about the business, and what I can add to the overall picture, and what makes this edition of Breaking Kayfabe compelling on various levels.

The first aspect of Sabu/Terry Brunk is the love and dedication he had for his mother. It’s fascinating that I’ve written the past few years about Bruno Sammartino on Mother’s day, and bookended this past Sunday watching Sabu speak emotionally about his Mom, and later watched the Bruno Documentary, which was much more of the same. (I of course watched that from my Mom’s house, so there’s another place where I’m making myself part of the story).

That Terry took care of his Mother isn’t just surprising, it’s amazing.

Here’s a guy that was 1) one of the most hardcore of all wrestlers and 2) one of the most well-travelled guys around (especially considering the promotions he worked, across the world, and his lack of staying with any one for any length of time). That he found the time to care for his Mom for all of his adult life is a great accomplishment. While there’s a sense of distance in the details, it’s all matter-of-fact and more real than this industry could suggest.

(Wow, I found out on Mother’s Day that Sabu and Bruno Sammartino are a lot more alike than they are different!)

The opening sentiment (just to jumble things up) is that Sabu is probably the one guy that never got his due. It is pointed out that most of the ECW Moments are of Sabu, even though Rob Van Dam gets the mainstream acclaim as the high-flyer of ECW Fame, Tazz gets the acclaim as the most dangerous, Dreamer (to some) gets the Hardcore Innovator, soul of the promotion vibe.

And then there’s the other Terry, rhymes with Brunk….

Sabu gets crowded out, but Sabu ultimately never “sold out” even if he did appear in every promotion under the sun. By never selling out (in the sense of putting on a happy face and playing along, playing politics, taking the money and sticking with the mindless suggestions and career altering decisions and condescension galore) the man known as Terry Brunk never saw his Hardcore Legacy become a bankroll for his career.

But he’s not exactly whining over walking away from Bischoff or McMahon, and for that he should be cheered.

Yet now he’s hitting an age where the other Terry had his second career, and ECW isn’t around, and nothing on the horizon will come close.

Sabu never really gets his due as a pure professional wrestler, despite his influence, maybe because of his violence and his unique approach to health care, and quite frankly, because the fans who glorified him and the fans of this generation who may think he’s cool have no real conception of the working shoes Sabu earned from The Shiek, nor seem to comprehend the levels to which he … well, worked.

Terry/Sabu tells us that his mother rarely watched him, and when she did, she was concerned that he was hurt. Here’s the sister of The Shiek, watching professional wrestling like it was intended, interacting with one of its leading, under-rated and absolutely glowing examples of selling.


There are many imitators and few who can really understand what he was doing.

Every match Sabu is in had a lot of things, and being driven (internally, by audience pressure and by the undeniable influence of his uncle) to bigger, badder and dangerous things was definitely part of it. But every match ended with Sabu convincing the fans that he put his life on the line for the business, and he did not come out of it unscathed.

Compare that to the ping-pong ball approach of many Indie performers, and the utter disconnect of most mainstream talent with the fans or the complete inability of most professional wrestlers to tell a story in the ring – let along perform like they are a physical creature prone to injury, doing something dangerous and paying a price for their passion.

When you watch Sabu in the ring, you hear the tales of crazy glue, tape and broken bones… you have to wonder how much of that is worked or shoot but you watch him and you can’t figure out (if you dare think of it that way) if he’s really hurt or really an absolute master of his craft.

That’s the summation of watching this DVD, and why you need to respect Sabu.

sticklefifer posted:

But can Sabu's love for his mother top Mr. T's love for his mother?

flashy_mcflash posted:

YASSS Low Ki as ring announcer please please.

flashy_mcflash posted:

On Mother's Day I found out that Mr T and Bruno Sammartino are more alike than different, right down to their penchant for wearing hundreds of gold chains.

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