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Episode was hilarious and delete key scene was a great subversion of the "we're getting hacked!" TV trope and shut up
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SlipkPIe posted:Episode was hilarious and delete key scene was a great subversion of the "we're getting hacked!" TV trope and shut up Besides, for all you guys know, the delete key was mapped to a script that more realistically deleted things on the server.
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Jun 1, 2015 22:56
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So... can't Pied Piper and/or the porn people sue the lovely metal chunk pants off of Russ?
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Jun 1, 2015 23:44
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Yes, just as soon as he gives them the money to pay their lawyers.
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Jun 1, 2015 23:47
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gret posted:Supposedly Mark Cuban played an investor for a tequila brand in Entourage. SnatchRabbit posted:He played himself and just happened to be investing in a Tequila company with Turtle and I think ended up screwing the deal and starting his own tequila company. Mark Cuban is an actual investor in Avion, the tequila company they used in Entourage.
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Jun 2, 2015 00:11
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What a bad episode. This last episode was even worse than when they had the kid delete their code because they had no repository. This show is so genius for 9/10ths, but so retarded for the remaining 1/10th. It's like 9 episodes are written by actual intelligent, experienced people, and one episode per year is written by my grandpa.
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Jun 2, 2015 01:51
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My disappointment with the delete key bit is that it was so non-specific. Like, is the joke on Russ for putting the bottle down, whoever coded the moronic delete function, or the porn company for exposing massive amounts of content to permanent erasure by a third-party they could never recover damages from? It didn't cleanly land on any of these, or some madcap combination of them, so the bit only went anywhere once Richard got into the meeting and started bragging about how fast they could delete, which was finally something specific to a character's nature.
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Jun 2, 2015 02:04
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FYTc55nGEI
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Jun 2, 2015 02:06
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That bus that is going to run over anyone who didn't like the delete key gag can't come soon enough.
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Jun 2, 2015 02:11
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There has never been a nitpick sillier than the people who can't just scroll past a conversation they're not interested in.
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Jun 2, 2015 02:15
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More Jin Yang please.
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Jun 2, 2015 02:15
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It's OK, the writers were drunk on Tres Commas tequila when they wrote that episode.
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Jun 2, 2015 02:16
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Sir Kodiak posted:My disappointment with the delete key bit is that it was so non-specific. Like, is the joke on Russ for putting the bottle down, whoever coded the moronic delete function, or the porn company for exposing massive amounts of content to permanent erasure by a third-party they could never recover damages from? It didn't cleanly land on any of these, or some madcap combination of them, so the bit only went anywhere once Richard got into the meeting and started bragging about how fast they could delete, which was finally something specific to a character's nature. Dude, the joke is clearly on Russ with his self-branded tequila.
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Jun 2, 2015 02:16
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teagone posted:Dude, the joke is clearly on Russ with his self-branded tequila. That's how the show frames it, but it's basically just a joke that Russ sucks. It's not specific to anything more about the character in the way that the show usually is. So the grinding of the plot gears are more apparent.
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Jun 2, 2015 02:24
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Moving closer and closer to my prediction, Gavin licensing Pied Piper.
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Jun 2, 2015 02:25
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I love that the most animated response we've gotten out of Laurie all season, moreso than learning she was co-invested with Hanneman, was her response to Erlich parroting the "no one died of second-hand heroin" line.
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Jun 2, 2015 02:26
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Holyshoot posted:More Jin Yang please. I've been wondering for ages what he was working on, and the reveal that he's inadvertently created an app that helps pedophiles find kids was hilarious.
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Jun 2, 2015 02:38
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Arbite posted:So... can't Pied Piper and/or the porn people sue the lovely metal chunk pants off of Russ?
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Jun 2, 2015 03:10
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kdrudy posted:Moving closer and closer to my prediction, Gavin licensing Pied Piper. This seems to be the only logical endgame for this season Hooli (Nucleus at least) and Pied Piper are both massive fuckups at the moment and they need each other to survive
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Jun 2, 2015 03:34
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Realistically, the porn company would have given Pied Piper a read-only account to download the files over FTP, but the show wants us to believe they were given the admin credentials. This is clearly the most unrealistic thing the show has ever depicted. Clearly.
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Jun 2, 2015 04:09
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I thought this episode was great. I loved that Richard kept loving up so badly and yet he somehow managed to keep surprising me with more fuckups
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Jun 2, 2015 04:14
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Josh Lyman posted:This is clearly the most unrealistic thing the show has ever depicted. Clearly. The issue is not realism but that the lack of realism is the premise of the joke and not the punchline. Erlich screaming at a child in the street isn't "realistic", but it's funny. But here they're having us assume unrealistic software behavior just to make a lame joke that Russ sucks.
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Jun 2, 2015 04:14
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I think the real tech nitpick we need to examine is the actual delete speed and if Richard was totally bullshitting about how Pied Piper would delete those files faster than anyone else. Has anyone figured out how fast they deleted the porn files? They cited about 9000 hours of premium video, 9k hours of 1080p MP4 (or WMV or whatever) so we could come up with an estimate of the total size of the files. The conversation between Russ and everyone outside the house takes place in pretty much real time so we can get an accurate estimate of the amount of time the delete key was pressed down. I don't know how we would get an estimate of the delete speed of a non-Pied Piper conversion process (whatever they were doing to the data as they were downloading it).
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Jun 2, 2015 04:35
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I don't know poo poo about codey things and visual basics and I thought it was pretty contrived. Episode was definitely a weaker one. The Erlich story had a few funny moments at least, but there was no real arc or big laughs in the A-plot. I also kinda hate Richard being awkward as a punchline. They've done it already, it just grates and Office-style awkward humour is not why I watch this show.
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Jun 2, 2015 05:17
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I got bored and wasn't paying too close attention but it looked like they were rsyncing anyway.
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Jun 2, 2015 06:51
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Richard calling Russ out for being an rear end in a top hat made me ignore all the inaccuracies of the whole delete key thing. It was terribly inaccurate on every level, but technical accuracy, even if the show is really good at it, is not the reason I keep watching. The only thing I didn't like about it is that it puts a lid on PP working with a porn mega-corp plot, which could have been mined a bit more. Seriously, why aren't more people talking about Richard growing an enormous pair for once? It's much more interesting than intricacies of FTP.
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Jun 2, 2015 10:53
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Because Richard already called out the Homicide Double rear end in a top hat once before. It seems that he can snap at people, but not actually be professionally assertive. I can call people assholes all day long, but it's not going to get me anywhere. My problem with the delete joke is that, yes, the show usually has a higher standard and manages to make jokes that both make sense and are understandable to Joe Blow. Like using the buttcoin rigs - sure, FP performance might not be the most important for lossless compression, but it's still funny for most people who don't live under a rock. The hacking subversion was great, but that's about it. It's frustrating because the only thing they needed to change there is make them delete only their local copies, loving them over an hour before the demo evaluation or something. Still I was ok with it up until Richard's spin at the porn lady's office. What the hell does their compression rate have to do with how fast files can be deleted over the network? Are we supposed to think that Richard is bullshitting, or really tries to spin their situation into a positive?
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Jun 2, 2015 12:16
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Holyshoot posted:More Jin Yang please. "Yes."
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Jun 2, 2015 12:39
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Jian Yang really is the best character. I think my favorite part with him is when the original Pied Piper guy comes to their house and when everyone starts saying their names he just joins in like "I guess this is how we're introducing ourselves."
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Jun 2, 2015 15:44
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It's not that the deleting was inaccurate, it's that it felt like a cheat. The dumb guy wasn't dumber than one person, he was dumber than all the smart people were smart put together. We saw the professor -immediately- figure out nucleus was a POS, but since we established he was smart (he had an MIT offer), it made sense. Russ buying himself a car made sense, and using Pied Piper money for his other businesses made sense, but he doesn't seem like the kind of maroon who would ruin three companies bids with one move. It felt Homer Simpsony.
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Jun 2, 2015 16:01
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What they should've done is educated the 95% non tech audience on exactly how such a disaster could've happened from tech plausibly and then that could've taken two or three weeks to do that and once we were all up to speed we could've done the gag in a realistic way. Or they just could've done what they did for a hilarious gag in a way that the audience could've understood and not pander to the fractional sliver of their audience that cares about bullshit like that. Or maybe it's a meta gag in the sense that the types of people this show makes brutal fun of are the only ones who would drat an episode of TV wholly for not maintaining 100% correct fidelity to coding reality.
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Jun 2, 2015 17:39
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zoux posted:Or they just could've done what they did for a hilarious gag in a way that the audience could've understood and not pander to the fractional sliver of their audience that cares about bullshit like that. The clumsiness of it is that it wasn't a gag. The delete key being able to take down two different server systems could have been a gag, but wasn't. Sir Kodiak fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Jun 2, 2015 |
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Jun 2, 2015 18:06
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The point of that scene was to deliver a lot of payoffs at once, not to demonstrate some realistic way that poo poo goes haywire. The delete key was a device. A clumsy device, sure, but that's all it was. I feel like the same people who nitpick the really insignificant stuff in this show are the same people complaining that only bad stuff happens to Pied Piper. That's kind of the point of the show, isn't it? That these guys have loads of tech talent, but lack literally every other thing you need to succeed. We've seen four billionaires so far with no real talent or much brains for that matter: a charismatic douche who fell rear end backwards into money, a likely mentally ill man-child, a narcissist, and -- assuming the porn woman is a billionaire -- someone with questionable enough morality to make money the easy way. They have charm, confidence, money, connections - everything but talent and are wildly successful. Pied Piper has solid technology but nothing else, so naturally they are going to get hosed at every turn. The bake off didn't fail because the system had some nonsense delete key vulnerability. It failed because they had to turn to Russ for funding, because Richard's awkwardness incited Seth, which triggered his paranoia, and because they are so underfunded and overworked they were competing using a system held together with duct tape. The satire of this show is pointing out that Silicon Valley is full of giant assholes making loads of money and taking credit for great things that other people do, and that most of this industry is based on total and complete bullshit. That's why were on, what, the third or fourth bubble right now? That all goes right down the shitter if Pied Piper actually manages to succeed. Jake Armitage fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Jun 2, 2015 |
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Jun 2, 2015 18:30
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Jake Armitage posted:The point of that scene was to deliver a lot of payoffs at once, not to demonstrate some realistic way that poo poo goes haywire. The delete key was a device. A clumsy device, sure, but that's all it was. Cool, so we agree. I was responding to someone who was claiming it was a "hilarious gag." Jake Armitage posted:I feel like the same people who nitpick the really insignificant stuff in this show are the same people complaining that only bad stuff happens to Pied Piper. You should stop feeling this way because I've never done the latter.
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Jun 2, 2015 18:32
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This show has been consistently funny. I really enjoyed the last episode.
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Jun 2, 2015 18:56
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OH MY GOD SHUT UP ABOUT THE DELETE KEY
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Jun 2, 2015 19:32
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I love the show but am getting a bit down on how there is never a single victory for the main characters
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Jun 2, 2015 23:56
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OldSenileGuy posted:OH MY GOD SHUT UP ABOUT THE DELETE KEY No. If I want a delete key to be a major plot point I'd watch NCIS ISIS: CYBER on CBS.
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Jun 2, 2015 23:58
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I was under the assumption that we'd be following a corporation's growth but so far it's still stuck in that stupid house. I was drat near depressed when they moved that stuff back off the truck, it was like going backwards. I get it, you don't want to do the Office so now we have to watch as this company gets hamstrung at every opportunity for growth.
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Every time someone complains about the delete key I like this show even more just to loving spite you.
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Jun 3, 2015 00:03
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