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Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Electronics kit chat, I found CircuitScribe the other day which looks pretty neat. I guess it could get expensive pretty quick though since the pens are $20 each. :stare:

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SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

Flipperwaldt posted:

Swear to god, if this is simply because your program writes to protected folders for no good reason (like temp files or settings to the folder it's in under program files), I'll slap you.

No, I'm keeping settings in AppData where they belong, and I'm only reading from and writing to a folder in my account's user directory. (It's just a dumb little program that HTMLizes text files.)

RabbitWizard's suggestion looks useful, I might try that.

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


Besesoth posted:

No, I'm keeping settings in AppData where they belong, and I'm only reading from and writing to a folder in my account's user directory. (It's just a dumb little program that HTMLizes text files.)

RabbitWizard's suggestion looks useful, I might try that.
Does your application actually need permissions, or does your manifest request elevation? If so just change the app.config to not ask. If your application does actually need permissions, then give yourself write permissions to wherever it's writing...

Give yourself the required access, or tell the app not to ask.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Is UAC bugging you about zone security settings and asking you to open internet explorer to configure them?

Because like I said, UAC is a piece of crap that warns an admin-level account about renaming a locally created .txt file on the desktop or starting up MS Paint, but doesn't give a peep when I run a .exe from c:\AnywhereElse

Given the false positive rate the popups convey literally no useful info

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Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Collateral Damage posted:

Electronics kit chat, I found CircuitScribe the other day which looks pretty neat. I guess it could get expensive pretty quick though since the pens are $20 each. :stare:

This seems like a badly thought-out idea. What do you do when you need to let two signals cross?

e: Apparently you put a "jumper sticker" on the bottom trace and draw over it. Sounds tedious.

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Zopotantor posted:

This seems like a badly thought-out idea. What do you do when you need to let two signals cross?

e: Apparently you put a "jumper sticker" on the bottom trace and draw over it. Sounds tedious.

You use the little component majiggers they have.

Tedious? Compared to what, using a breadboard and wires? Soldering everything together?

Its so little kids can rig up a couple things and make lights turn on and learn about electricity. I think its pretty nifty. But the pens being expensive is a concern.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro
Growing up my brother and I were lucky enough to have a VCR in our room and it had a remote control.

It was a wired control that carried a surprisingly large amount of current through it, which we would hide in one another's bunks to see if we could electrocute each other with it

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Tunicate posted:

Because like I said, UAC is a piece of crap that warns an admin-level account about renaming a locally created .txt file on the desktop or starting up MS Paint
It doesn't on an install that's not borked, hope that helps.

minato
Jun 7, 2004

cutty cain't hang, say 7-up.
Taco Defender
Ah, home experimentation kits, those were the days...





quote:

Yet, the Atomic Energy Lab kit produced by the American Basic Science Club came with real samples of uranium (which is radioactive) and radium (which is a million times more radioactive than uranium). Since the mere presence of radioactive material in a children's product clearly wasn't insane enough, some of the experiments detailed in the manual also required kids to handle blocks of dry ice. Dry ice, by the way, has a temperature of minus 109.3 degrees Fahrenheit, and it's recommended that it only be handled while wearing gloves (none were included).

:staredog:

Chakan
Mar 30, 2011

Zaphod42 posted:

For me it was



I've got my copy of this still packed up from my move, but I might go through and see if there are good images I can scan for the thread.

PC LOAD LETTER
May 23, 2005
WTF?!

Collateral Damage posted:

I guess it could get expensive pretty quick though since the pens are $20 each. :stare:
Rear window defogger repair kits can be used in a similar fashion to 'draw' circuits and are usually cheaper. I remember people used to use them to unlock their AthlonXP's after AMD started cutting into the package so you couldn't just draw over them with a pencil.

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

drrockso20 posted:

I've seen similar albeit more explicitly kiddy versions of this concept here in the states as well, Electronic Lab kits definitely still exist, they just tend to be packaged in a less dangerous and more child friendly package

also while we're on the topic of scientific experimentation meant for children that would be considered child endangerment by modern standards, have a gander at The Golden Book of Chemistry


nice





My theory is that with the Baby Boom & all, people were starting to feel like they had too many kids & they needed to thin the herd

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'


This is such a time capsule, it's like the track listing from K-Tel's 'Cringy poo poo a 13 year old would download" double CD/Cassette.

quote:

AOL Song, The
Bin Laden Bomb Song, The
Internet Sandman (Enter Napster) (Metallica Vs Napster)
It's Gonna Be Me (Gore Versus Bush)
Last Vote For Al Gore
Make My Boobies One More Size
Microsoft! (Bloatware)
My DNA (Bill Clinton)
My Fart Will Go On And On
Oops, I Farted Again
Oops, I'm Pregnant Again
Soft Wars: The Microsoft Empire Strikes Back
Titanic Song, The
Who Wants A Recount
Will The Real Slim Shady Please Shut Up
Windows 95 Sucks

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Dang, the Bob Rivers Comedy Corp. churned them out by the dozen.

Most baffling entry is the Dead Kennedys version of I Fought The Law though. By miles.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Chakan posted:

I've got my copy of this still packed up from my move, but I might go through and see if there are good images I can scan for the thread.

Post the image from the revised version where it explains how a CPU die is made. IIRC it was better than most internet articles on the subject.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

InediblePenguin posted:

nice





My theory is that with the Baby Boom & all, people were starting to feel like they had too many kids & they needed to thin the herd

:stonk: What the gently caress

Chlorine Gas is literally chemical warfare.

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

Zaphod42 posted:

:stonk: What the gently caress

Chlorine Gas is literally chemical warfare.

yeah they open that section with an image of a WWI soldier but then the "don't breathe the fumes" text is this tiny red warning that's literally printed smaller than the instructions for "breathe these fumes to see if you did it right" so

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


My Lovely Horse posted:

Dang, the Bob Rivers Comedy Corp. churned them out by the dozen.

Most baffling entry is the Dead Kennedys version of I Fought The Law though. By miles.

Bob Rivers and Weird Al were both tedious and unfunny but at least Weird Al's family friendly requirement imposed a minimum standard of creativity. Bob Rivers was utterly witless and stupid.

And on that note, remember the flood of racist and Islamophobic Flash cartoons with Bob Rivers-type pop song parodies that appeared after 9/11? America should be embarrassed.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

Woolie Wool posted:

And on that note, remember the flood of racist and Islamophobic Flash cartoons

Taliban Twister actually played on our local news, it was weird as hell to see it on TV

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

minato posted:

Ah, home experimentation kits, those were the days...






:staredog:

Every kid should get to play with dry ice rockets, and learn to not screw on the cap too much. :colbert:

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


People were talking about film degradation earlier in this thread, has anybody tried draining the air out of film containers and replacing it with 100% nitrogen or a similar inert gas, and sealing them to be completely airtight? Given time, oxygen will oxidize almost anything. Most microbial life would be unable to survive in 100% nitrogen either.

Also you might be wondering why I specified replacing the air with an inert gas instead of removing it and leaving a vacuum. Well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ7WFhJvQOA
You don't want this happening to your priceless film stock.

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Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy

Woolie Wool posted:

Bob Rivers and Weird Al were both tedious and unfunny but at least Weird Al's family friendly requirement imposed a minimum standard of creativity. Bob Rivers was utterly witless and stupid.

And on that note, remember the flood of racist and Islamophobic Flash cartoons with Bob Rivers-type pop song parodies that appeared after 9/11? America should be embarrassed.

The worst part is that Group X stopped making music.

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


Museums do that, and it's probably common in any industry where film preservation is ongoing.

While googling that to be sure I did find and interesting paper on using processed crab protein as an edible coating for cod preservation which may make other edible fish coatings an obsolete technology.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Woolie Wool posted:

People were talking about film degradation earlier in this thread, has anybody tried draining the air out of film containers and replacing it with 100% nitrogen or a similar inert gas, and sealing them to be completely airtight? Given time, oxygen will oxidize almost anything. Most microbial life would be unable to survive in 100% nitrogen either.

Oxidation isn’t the only way to wreck a molecule. If your film is spontaneously decomposing, all you can do is slow the process (and digitize it before it gets worse). An inert atmosphere can’t hurt, but keeping it cool and dry is the main thing.

Caedus
Sep 11, 2007

It's good to have a sense of scale.



DrBouvenstein posted:

Last Christmas, I bought something like that for my nephew.



Like you said, everything snaps into place, thick plastic everywhere ,etc...

Might not be the exact same product, but close enough.

He loves it, too. Despite being all "digital this" and "iPad that" he still loves physical toys and building poo poo. My sister hates me for always getting him things like that, Lego, etc... because it results in small pieces getting lost and stepped on.

Hey that was it! The kids are middle school age but my sister is great for using stuff like that to teach concepts to tech-head kids.

There was a school camping trip last weekend she brought the kids on. To enforce lights out, they took away all the electronics (phones, DSes, etc) and told the kids when to be up. Turns out a bunch of 14 year olds don't wear watches so nobody could actually set an alarm without a phone. I'd be all smug, "kids these days" except the alarm on my new phone failed for some reason and made me late for work today. I don't even own an alarm clock so I gambled, having no other options for a morning alarm, and I lost.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Woolie Wool posted:

People were talking about film degradation earlier in this thread, has anybody tried draining the air out of film containers and replacing it with 100% nitrogen or a similar inert gas, and sealing them to be completely airtight? Given time, oxygen will oxidize almost anything. Most microbial life would be unable to survive in 100% nitrogen either.
Oxidization isn't nearly as important in film conservation as temperature and humidity. It's been a while but I also think film will readily decay by itself, much like old books do because the paper or ink itself is acidic but faster.

That reminds me of when I toured the department of the German Film Archive where they keep the old nitrate films. Legally speaking, they're storing explosives.

Truck Stop Daddy
Apr 17, 2013

A janitor cleans the bathroom

Muldoon

My Lovely Horse posted:

Oxidization isn't nearly as important in film conservation as temperature and humidity. It's been a while but I also think film will readily decay by itself, much like old books do because the paper or ink itself is acidic but faster.

That reminds me of when I toured the department of the German Film Archive where they keep the old nitrate films. Legally speaking, they're storing explosives.

Yeah, basically. Temperature and humidity control is key here. Changes back and forth speeds up decomposition. Film really craves stability. Storage in low-oxygen environments are sought after too, but that is more of a general safety measure in regards to fires.

The last couple of years freezing film is becoming an increasingly interesting option for film. It almost slows decomposition to a complete standstill. Needless to say, being able to almost stop decomposition would be amazing. Freezing, and any other clever storage trick, however is not thought of as permanent solutions, but rather a way of buying time to save the material by either digital or analogue means. Once the processes of decomposition start, they can't be stopped.

Source: I'm writing this from a nitrate film bunker.

also, a small contribution to the thread: BAVC's video artifact atlas. it's still quite small, but a nice resource: http://avaa.bavc.org/artifactatlas/index.php/A/V_Artifact_Atlas

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Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid
Going back to the Kazaa topic: I once downloaded a documentary on the middle east. It turned out to be a video of Japanese girls eating poo poo.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Zaphod42 posted:

For me it was



For those of you that haven't read it seriously loving read this book. It's probably one of the coolest books ever written.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

ToxicSlurpee posted:

For those of you that haven't read it seriously loving read this book. It's probably one of the coolest books ever written.

Sure, if you don't know how things work :smugmrgw:

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Zaphod42 posted:

:stonk: What the gently caress

Chlorine Gas is literally chemical warfare.

At one point they tell you how to make Iron compounds, telling you to break out the Lye :gonk:

Later they tell you how to make chloroform :pervert:

There's also a shitload of experiments that are just 'burn this thing'.

DONT TOUCH THE PC
Jul 15, 2001

You should try it, it's a real buzz.

My Lovely Horse posted:

Oxidization isn't nearly as important in film conservation as temperature and humidity. It's been a while but I also think film will readily decay by itself, much like old books do because the paper or ink itself is acidic but faster.

Yeah ink corrosion is a bitch, I've seen some horrible examples over the years.

Truck Stop Daddy
Apr 17, 2013

A janitor cleans the bathroom

Muldoon
Here's some film archive horror pics i snapped a while back with my outdated phone, when I examined the condition of nitrate marked as badly decomposed. You know how film reels are supposed to be shiny and smooth and stuff? well:




That poo poo is nitrate dust. the emulsion has basically crystallized and fallen off the base. Super flamable. Added bonus: it smells absolutely vile. Acetate cellulose film smells intensely of vinegar when it begins deteriorating (vinegar syndrome), but nitrate smells pungent and grossly sweet for some reason.

bonus picture of the weird effects created by deterioration:



for more funky decay, check out the film "Decasia": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeEzb-0vf7A

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Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Atal Vataman posted:

bonus picture of the weird effects created by deterioration:

In the course of cleaning and scanning my dad's photo archives I occasionally run into this, where the emulsion has either rotted off, or cleaning the film peels it off. It does render some stuff awesomely surreal.

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli

That was one of the most popular books in my primary school's library.

When I was a little older I found the omnibus edition which had that, Cross Sections Explosions, Man-o-War, Castle and the Human Body in the one book. That was a dope book.

http://www.amazon.com/Stephen-Biest...=cross+sections

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Rev. Bleech_ posted:

In the course of cleaning and scanning my dad's photo archives I occasionally run into this, where the emulsion has either rotted off, or cleaning the film peels it off. It does render some stuff awesomely surreal.


New phone wallpaper, right there.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Atal Vataman posted:

also, a small contribution to the thread: BAVC's video artifact atlas. it's still quite small, but a nice resource: http://avaa.bavc.org/artifactatlas/index.php/A/V_Artifact_Atlas

This site is great. I love all the old analog video artifacts.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Zaphod42 posted:

Everything was either Weird Al or System of a Down.

Especially that zelda song and the sesame street parody.

I retagged that Zelda song from Weird Al to System of a Down on the recommendation of some site that kept track of stuff like that. Apparently they didn't do a terribly good job.

Woolie Wool posted:

I remember back in 2006 an Arcturus concert DVD came out and it was not available for sale in any US retailer I could find for almost a year. I pirated it on eMule or some other pre-torrents filesharing service. Only it wasn't an Arcturus concert at all.

It was German midget porn. :stonk:

I still remember one time I was looking for music and found a short low-res video of what I'm pretty sure was a 12-13 year old girl having sex with a dog, when I was around, well, 12-13. That was a very strange evening...

Zaphod42 posted:

Does this count for obsolete technology? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BonziBuddy :haw:

Man gently caress you BonziBuddy was awesome. Best malware I ever got suckered into installing. As for sheep and the like, the concept continues, it's just pony-themed these days.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
I never had Sheep.exe, but I did have Neko.exe which was a cat themed one. Apparently someone found the source and ported it to 32/64 bit Windows back in 2010, but good luck finding it.

edit: I lied, the 64 bit version is still hosted.

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Horace posted:

This is such a time capsule, it's like the track listing from K-Tel's 'Cringy poo poo a 13 year old would download" double CD/Cassette.

This here was one I loved:

quote:

YO HO
(A Pirate's Life For Me)

We decode, we transfer
We copy and crack,
Download me `arties, Yo Ho.
We DVD and MP3
Download me `arties, Yo Ho.

Yo Ho, Yo Ho, a pirates life for me.

Napster gone, But Aimster
Is here
Download me `arties Yo Ho.
With IRC with DCC
Download me `arties, Yo Ho.

Yo Ho, Yo Ho, a pirates life for me.

Cd-rom buner and soon DVD
Download me `arties, Yo Ho.
Movies and Software
and Everything else
Download me `arties, Yo Ho.

Yo Ho, Yo Ho, a pirates life for me.

Were boys and girls
at microsoft
Download me `arties, Yo Ho.
Were kids and hacker,
and Really cool guys
Download me `arties, Yo Ho.

Yo Ho, Yo Ho, a pirates life for me.

Were average joes
And record execs
Download me `arties, Yo Ho.
Were Teens doing it
For mom and dad
Download me `arties, Yo Ho.

Yo Ho, Yo Ho, a pirates life for me.

(c)2001 Mycal, Distribute Widely
https://www.mycal.net


http://www.mycal.net/old/pirates/Mycal_-_Pirates_Life_4_me.mp3

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