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El Hefe posted:I hope the US DOJ puts Bernie and Jean Toad in prison and F1 ceases to exist
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Well that was 2 hours of my life I'm not getting back
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Jun 7, 2015 20:59
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Glad I didn't watch the race until the end. Although it's nice to see Bottas on the stage.
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Jun 7, 2015 21:10
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mrfart posted:I thought Hamilton was kidding when he said you somethings see beavers on the track. But nope, that was a beaver. Glad nobody hit it. I thought it was a gopher. Stupid thing was blocking the racing line anyway, they should have given it waved blues.
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Jun 7, 2015 21:26
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lmao alonso: https://twitter.com/alo_oficial/status/607641858395787265 they must have some brawn rear end poo poo planned for 2016, otherwise i don't understand how both of them can be so chill about this
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Jun 7, 2015 21:29
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be nice wicka posted:lmao alonso: https://twitter.com/alo_oficial/status/607641858395787265 he's not chill at all over the radio he screamed at his engineer when asked to save fuel
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Jun 7, 2015 21:33
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El Hefe posted:he's not chill at all so did p much everyone who was told to save fuel
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Jun 7, 2015 21:37
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be nice wicka posted:so did p much everyone who was told to save fuel he literally said "I don't want to keep driving like this, I look like an amateur"
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Jun 7, 2015 21:42
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That wasn't screaming, come on.
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Jun 7, 2015 21:42
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I was excited to watch Vettel go through the field to finish 5th. What's wrong with me?
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Jun 7, 2015 21:43
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krushgroove posted:That wasn't screaming, come on. right, he said "I DON'T WANT TO KEEP DRIVING LIKE THIS, I LOOK LIKE AN AMATEUR!"
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Jun 7, 2015 21:46
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Really, you should be happy there's signs of life in the old boy still. Residency Evil posted:I was excited to watch Vettel go through the field to finish 5th. What's wrong with me? Nothing, it was great to watch and he's a great driver.
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Jun 7, 2015 21:57
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Residency Evil posted:I was excited to watch Vettel go through the field to finish 5th. What's wrong with me? krushgroove posted:Nothing, it was great to watch and he's a great driver. Likewise, Vettel was probably the highlight of the race for me. I feel dirty admitting that but my tolerance for drivers changes from season to season. I got enough schadenfreude from Vettel's 2014 season, certainly enough to give him a clean slate this year.
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Jun 7, 2015 22:05
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El Hefe posted:I hope the US DOJ puts Bernie and Jean Toad in prison and F1 ceases to exist Not going to happen, Blatter drives like an amateur compared to Bernie
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Jun 7, 2015 22:07
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The Canadian GP can be boring as heck. Who knew?!? This time last year we had already had two really good races in Bahrain and Canada. This year only Malaysia was surprising (and not especially good) and it was loving Vettel who won it.
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Jun 7, 2015 22:09
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El Hefe posted:he's not chill at all To be fair he's put up with consistently poo poo cars since the beginning of 2012 with minimal complaining. I'm sure pretty much anything would've made him snap at that point.
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Jun 7, 2015 22:22
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1500quidporsche posted:To be fair he's put up with consistently poo poo cars since the beginning of 2012 with minimal complaining. I'm sure pretty much anything would've made him snap at that point. Doesn't even sound like he snapped, it was more a cleverly phrased response that he knew would be aired, he's pretty good at it
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Jun 7, 2015 22:24
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really if you think Alonso is "chill" with hanging out at the back of the grid and retiring every race right on the prime of his career then you really don't understand the mentality of an F1 champion he's just putting up a face so this doesn't turn into a repeat of 2007
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Jun 7, 2015 22:30
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I want Honda to actually deliver soon on a real car, but that doesn't seem very likely. I have no idea how much off season development will be able to do, but next season maybe they can at least finish races.
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Jun 7, 2015 22:35
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El Hefe posted:really if you think Alonso is "chill" with hanging out at the back of the grid and retiring every race right on the prime of his career then you really don't understand the mentality of an F1 champion He is seeing the bigger picture, there was never any instawin going to McLaren
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Jun 7, 2015 22:38
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ATP_Power posted:I want Honda to actually deliver soon on a real car, but that doesn't seem very likely. I have no idea how much off season development will be able to do, but next season maybe they can at least finish races. at most they can hope to get consistently in the points in 2017 with a few podiums if they are lucky but unless there's another change in the regulations Mercedes are going to keep dominating
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Jun 7, 2015 22:39
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djssniper posted:He is seeing the bigger picture, there was never any instawin going to McLaren what big picture? he'll be 36-37 by the time McLaren might give him a somewhat good car they are definitely not going to be anywhere near Mercedes next season either
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Jun 7, 2015 22:40
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El Hefe posted:what big picture? he'll be 36-37 by the time McLaren might give him a somewhat good car Yeah, why bother.. might as well pack up and go home
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Jun 7, 2015 22:47
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the big picture is that no one but mercedes can offer him a title-winning car and they're not going to have an open seat any time soon. he's literally ricky bobby at this stage of his career, nothing but winning matters. he burned all his bridges at ferrari and mclaren are clearly the next best option in the long term. they have more money and better facilities than williams or red bull, even considering their almost complete lack of sponsorship. i really don't know what is confusing about this
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Jun 7, 2015 22:48
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be nice wicka posted:the big picture is that no one but mercedes can offer him a title-winning car and they're not going to have an open seat any time soon. he's literally ricky bobby at this stage of his career, nothing but winning matters. he burned all his bridges at ferrari and mclaren are clearly the next best option in the long term. they have more money and better facilities than williams or red bull, even considering their almost complete lack of sponsorship. Nothing confusing, just a differance of opinion if you can grasp that
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Jun 7, 2015 22:53
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I honestly think it was more Ferrari firing him than him quitting
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Jun 7, 2015 22:53
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@F1Racing_mag: Maldonado's seventh place in #CanadianGP means only three full-time drivers have yet to score in 2015: Merhi, Stevens... and Alonso #F1
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Jun 7, 2015 22:55
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El Hefe posted:I honestly think it was more Ferrari firing him than him quitting I don't think it's a big secret that Vettle had a contract and he (alonso) wanted to move, Ferrari cost him that 3rd WDC, and I think he's been pissed since
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Jun 7, 2015 22:58
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djssniper posted:Nothing confusing, just a differance of opinion if you can grasp that but how? you literally cannot disagree if we live in the same objective reality. mclaren was the only option for him in F1.
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Jun 7, 2015 23:01
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McLaren was the only option if all he wanted was getting a paycheck he's never ever going to win a WDC with McLaren of that I'm sure
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Jun 7, 2015 23:02
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be nice wicka posted:but how? you literally cannot disagree if we live in the same objective reality. mclaren was the only option for him in F1. I really don't know, if you were an acclompished driver as Alonso why would you go without his knowledge of what's going on there? You're implying he's an idiot for doing so
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Jun 7, 2015 23:04
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djssniper posted:I really don't know, if you were an acclompished driver as Alonso why would you go without his knowledge of what's going on there? You're implying he's an idiot for doing so he knew it was a project, dude. i'm not implying anything. maybe he didn't expect it would be quite this bad, but he knew full well he wouldn't be winning 2015. that, again, has been made clear many times. you're just not paying attention. it's almost as if you don't even watch f1.
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Jun 7, 2015 23:07
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El Hefe posted:McLaren was the only option if all he wanted was getting a paycheck well he couldn't go to mercedes, he couldn't stay at ferrari, and no one else looks close to winning races anytime soon. mclaren have the most money and the most talent behind them. again, i just don't see where the confusion is. if you think williams are going to win a title you're kidding yourself. red bull haven't hired someone from outside of their young driver program since webber. there's really only one option, and that's to hope mclaren can turn it around within like five years, and the only person who would say that's outright impossible is a person who has never watched F1.
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Jun 7, 2015 23:10
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be nice wicka posted:he knew it was a project, dude. i'm not implying anything. maybe he didn't expect it would be quite this bad, but he knew full well he wouldn't be winning 2015. that, again, has been made clear many times. you're just not paying attention. it's almost as if you don't even watch f1. Ok you're not seeing the point, lets drop it
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Jun 7, 2015 23:11
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djssniper posted:Ok you're not seeing the point, lets drop it no thanks, tell me what the point is
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Jun 7, 2015 23:13
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be nice wicka posted:well he couldn't go to mercedes, he couldn't stay at ferrari, and no one else looks close to winning races anytime soon. mclaren have the most money and the most talent behind them. again, i just don't see where the confusion is. if you think williams are going to win a title you're kidding yourself. red bull haven't hired someone from outside of their young driver program since webber. there's really only one option, and that's to hope mclaren can turn it around within like five years, and the only person who would say that's outright impossible is a person who has never watched F1. yes that's all true but the only reason he's driving for McLaren is because they were willing to pay him #megabucks and to stay in F1 for the ridiculously small chance of getting a Mercedes drive in the near future
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Jun 7, 2015 23:16
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be nice wicka posted:no thanks, tell me what the point is Really? if you don't see my point, what the hell are you countering?
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Jun 7, 2015 23:19
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be nice wicka posted:well he couldn't go to mercedes, he couldn't stay at ferrari, and no one else looks close to winning races anytime soon. mclaren have the most money and the most talent behind them. again, i just don't see where the confusion is. if you think williams are going to win a title you're kidding yourself. red bull haven't hired someone from outside of their young driver program since webber. there's really only one option, and that's to hope mclaren can turn it around within like five years, and the only person who would say that's outright impossible is a person who has never watched F1. Mclaren was a long shot but I don't get why he didn't go to Mercedes in 2012, that was the watershed moment where it was pretty loving clear that his relationship with the team deteriorated and they weren't able to deliver a competitive car. He must've been the only one who didn't realize Ferrari wouldn't allow the perception of a driver hauling their shitbox close to championship wins wasn't sustainable.
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Jun 7, 2015 23:23
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be nice wicka posted:no thanks, tell me what the point is be nice wicka
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He couldnt have gone to mercedes, not with Lewis there. Theres no way he'd want a repeat of 2007. Alonso had one choice and that was Mclaren or not be in F1 this season.
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