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Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

InitialDave posted:

I sort of support the idea of retesting at regular intervals, but I don't have a very high opinion of the knowledge of cars and driving that resides with those who would be doing said testing. Unless it was severely beaten into people that they are checking to make sure people are generally safe and attentive, not whether they are adhering to inane minutiae. There are enough people out there who never advanced beyond what was required to pass their driving test as it is.

The problem with regular testing is that it wouldn't be much different to doing a single test. No-one drives the way they do for the test. Both hands on the wheel unless changing gear, checking mirrors in order frequently, mirror-signal-maneoueoeoueouver, etc. Even the instructors tell you they're not teaching you how to drive, they're teaching you how to pass the test.

When i did my test i drove in test-mode on the way there, did all that poo poo for the test and once i'd passed i hopped back in the car, one hand on the wheel, arm out the window, etc.

Cakefool posted:

"Drove like a proper oval office" would be the best way to fail your renewal though.

This would make an excellent driving ticket/fine.

Section 134 of the Road Traffic Act - Cuntish Driving :v:

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InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Mooseykins posted:

When i did my test i drove in test-mode on the way there, did all that poo poo for the test and once i'd passed i hopped back in the car, one hand on the wheel, arm out the window, etc.
But if you had one arm out the window, how did you hold your beer?

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

InitialDave posted:

But if you had one arm out the window, how did you hold your beer?

I don't drink, but obviously when it was time for the iced tea i just steered with my knee! :v:

ohgodwhat
Aug 6, 2005

InitialDave posted:

But if you had one arm out the window, how did you hold your beer?

He's got two hands, right?

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

ohgodwhat posted:

He's got two hands, right?

Oh yeah..



Durrr i'm a dumbass. :v:

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

FogHelmut posted:

The thing about this is that the on-ramps around Philly are only about 50ft long, and hit the highway at not quite a right angle, but at such an angle that all of the oncoming traffic is perfectly in your blind spot.

Also on the PA Turnpike.
And most of I-81.
And I-78.

gently caress PA on-ramps is what I'm saying.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Brigdh posted:

I'm not sure what part of the video you might be referring to. I'm assuming you are referring to xzzy's post.

I'd say check your local laws. Its a grey area here. If there is a bike lane, and the turning vehicle left it clear, then yes the bike has the right of way. The turning vehicle should move over and block the lane prior to making the turn, and the bike can pass on the outside to continue. If there is no bike lane, then the bike and the turning vehicle are sharing the same lane, in which case the bike should wait for the vehicle to complete its turn (ie act like a car). Even if the law is on the bike's side, its a dumb move, and the bike probably should have just waited for the truck to complete the turn.
(assuming US / Continent driving rules) The truck wants to make a right turn, so they will actually cheat over to the left away from the bike lane so that they don't hop the curb. If they block the bike lane then they will hop the curb and maybe even take out poles or signs right at the corner. Hopping the curb can cause tire damage or even a blowout.

babyeatingpsychopath posted:

I'm sorry I cut people off to get into the free lane. I'm a bad person for doing this.

You share the road with me, and I drive a beater.
Hey, are you stateside again? What kind of beater are you driving?

CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Jun 8, 2015

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

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Edward IV
Jan 15, 2006

CannonFodder posted:

Also on the PA Turnpike.
And most of I-81.
And I-78.

gently caress PA on-ramps is what I'm saying.

That bad, huh? Once a year or so, I take a road trip with my brother from central New Jersey to southwestern Virginia taking I-78 and I-81 and we never had big issues driving through Pennsylvania. Then again, we usually just blast through the state without stopping since the gas prices are so much higher than New Jersey and Virginia such that there's no point in stopping except for meals and bathroom breaks.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.
Had a guy tailgating me on the way back from Canyon Lake today in the rightmost lane (US), to the point that I couldn't see his headlights. Sometimes I gradually slow down until these guys pass me, not tonight though, I just maintained speed since it was a busy stretch of highway.

Truck in front of me kicks up a huge gator, must have been an entire tread. You don't try dodging these in a lifted jeep, you just hope it doesn't flap up and hit a brake line. Guy tailgating me immediately gets off my rear end. :feelsgood:

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:

Count Freebasie posted:

Over 65, every year.

This would get sooooooooooo many old, blind fuckers off the roads.

Count Freebasie
Jan 12, 2006

CannonFodder posted:

Also on the PA Turnpike.
And most of I-81.
And I-78.

gently caress PA on-ramps is what I'm saying.

Specifically, the on-ramp from Chester on 95 North right before you hit the 476 exit. I've seen countless rear-ends there.

Pepperoneedy
Apr 27, 2007

Rockin' it



Count Freebasie posted:

Specifically, the on-ramp from Chester on 95 North right before you hit the 476 exit. I've seen countless rear-ends there.

That's bad, but nothing compared to the insane(ly cramped) interchange at 352 and 1 in Lima..

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG

88h88 posted:

This would get sooooooooooo many old, blind fuckers off the roads.

The people who frustrate me the most really are the old farts in a BMW 3 series going 10 under the limit, unable to stay in their lane and unable to check before changing lanes. I laid on the horn for about 5 seconds when this one old lady started drifting into my lane and I don't think she noticed and only corrected once the road started curving 100 feet afterwards. If that's me I'm getting off the loving road for the rest of my life.

Count Freebasie
Jan 12, 2006

Grave $avings posted:

That's bad, but nothing compared to the insane(ly cramped) interchange at 352 and 1 in Lima..

Ah, yes...the drag race from 352 stop sign to the Media Bypass without getting sideswiped where you have a one second reaction time when the cars come flying up from the Granite Run Mall area.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Set age limits might be overkill, everyone loses their reactions/alertness at different rates. Some folks make it into their 90s and are sharper than anyone reading this thread.

What you really need is kids who actually take care of their parents and get their license revoked when the time comes. Punish the children with fines for any damages their parents inflict and boom, the streets are safer!

Also institute a mandatory public service phase before teenagers can get their permanent license. Force them to spend 6 months taxiing seniors to get groceries and suddenly the kids are much better drivers. :v:

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
Most of you will get old. I am just saying when you pass the soylent green laws you will eventually be subject to them. (Not that you could ever overcome the fact that old people have nothing better to do then vote) That said the older I get the less I care about having a valid license or insurance or traffic ordinances. Just saying what are they going to do?

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





xzzy posted:

What you really need is kids who actually take care of their parents and get their license revoked when the time comes. Punish the children with fines for any damages their parents inflict and boom, the streets are safer!

I have envisioned this future and cleverly not had any children so that there will be nobody to remove me from the road.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:

xzzy posted:

Some folks make it into their 90s and are sharper than anyone reading this thread.

Perhaps but the amount of said ancient old farts sharper than young people is far loving smaller than that of wrinkly old giffers who can't see for poo poo, have reaction times measure in minutes and memory spans of seconds.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

88h88 posted:

Perhaps but the amount of said ancient old farts sharper than young people is far loving smaller than that of wrinkly old giffers who can't see for poo poo, have reaction times measure in minutes and memory spans of seconds.

I don't disagree, I just think that if laws are going to be proposed, they should be tailored to the faculties of the individual rather than painting everyone who makes it to a specific age with the same brush.

Some people might get their license yanked at 40. Some might be 18 years old and never allowed to have a license. Others might make it to 110 and pull 8 minute lap times on the Nurburgring. The rules should allow all of that. :v:

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
This may be disrespectful, but funeral processions really have no place on the highway at the very least. Driving on 95 north just past Boston, a procession was taking up the center and right lane and no one seemed to want to pass them above one mile an hour. Also, processions running red lights on busy surface streets with no police escort seems suicidal.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Everywhere I've lived, a police escort for processions are mandatory.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Pine Cone Jones posted:

This may be disrespectful, but funeral processions really have no place on the highway at the very least. Driving on 95 north just past Boston, a procession was taking up the center and right lane and no one seemed to want to pass them above one mile an hour. Also, processions running red lights on busy surface streets with no police escort seems suicidal.

I agree. I don't know if this is possible, but I want it in my will that my earthly remains are never to impede traffic. Drive the loving hearse at 20 over the limit if you like; my corpse will not care, because it is an object at that point and is thus incapable of feeling disrespected, but it upsets me in life to think that the final effect of my body on anyone else on this earth would be to cause a traffic delay. A mockery of everything I believe, really.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
In accordance with the wishes of the deceased, the next of kin took the urn to a mall parking lot, and threw them in the face of a bro-truck driver running a smoke tune, screaming "How do you loving like it, huh, Mr I-Roll-Coal-At-Miata-Drivers'-Faces-Cuntstick?"

GramCracker
Oct 8, 2005

beauty by stroll

InitialDave posted:

In accordance with the wishes of the deceased, the next of kin took the urn to a mall parking lot, and threw them in the face of a bro-truck driver running a smoke tune, screaming "How do you loving like it, huh, Mr I-Roll-Coal-At-Miata-Drivers'-Faces-Cuntstick?"

Speaking of BroTruck douchery. I work at a bar on the weekends (ya know, for h3lla sik mod money, y0), and we have this nice outdoor patio thing with some tables and couches that happens to be on the sidewalk next to the street.

So this past Sunday there was a random car show, very eclectic grouping of vehicles and a few trucks. Show ends, and one of the BroTruckers decides to roll coal the length of our patio, while it is packed with patrons. I was about to run through the bar, out the side door, and grab this oval office at the stop sign down the street. BroTruck people are literally the loving worst. :fuckoff:

GramCracker
Oct 8, 2005

beauty by stroll
Also, fresh off imgur: People literally are retarded.

Ran the red light, better back up! :downs:


xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Saw something sort of similar on my way into work this morning. Come up on an intersection, there's some SUV stopped in the middle of it. Confused me at first and then I noticed trying to turn left and get around the roadblock. My interpretation was the driver had realized they were running a red light after they'd crossed the stop line and stood on the brakes. Then just sat there as they freaked out and tried to decide what to do about it.

To their credit, once they decided the way through was clear, they just drove through.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
last year a procession got held up trying to cross tracks because hey its a train and people were really angry that Union Pacific didn't have the train stop for some guys funeral

i hate people

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice

go3 posted:

last year a procession got held up trying to cross tracks because hey its a train and people were really angry that Union Pacific didn't have the train stop for some guys funeral

i hate people

You gotta wonder if the mortuary had an angle here, a move like that is pretty good for business.

Pixelated Dragon
Jan 22, 2007

Do you remember how we used to breathe and watch it
and feel such power and feel such joy, to be ice dragons and be so free. -Noe Venable

GramCracker posted:

Also, fresh off imgur: People literally are retarded.

Ran the red light, better back up! :downs:




"poo poo, I just backed into something. I better back up even more!"

Mooseykins posted:

The problem with regular testing is that it wouldn't be much different to doing a single test. No-one drives the way they do for the test. Both hands on the wheel unless changing gear, checking mirrors in order frequently, mirror-signal-maneoueoeoueouver, etc. Even the instructors tell you they're not teaching you how to drive, they're teaching you how to pass the test.

When i did my test i drove in test-mode on the way there, did all that poo poo for the test and once i'd passed i hopped back in the car, one hand on the wheel, arm out the window, etc.


This would make an excellent driving ticket/fine.

Section 134 of the Road Traffic Act - Cuntish Driving :v:

Let alone that road testing would get more backed up than it already is. All the DMVs are booked three months out in my neck of the woods.

xzzy posted:

Except IQ has nothing to do with driving ability.

Really all that's needed is an effective licensing system that actually tests drivers instead of rubber stamping everything. And an enforcement system that makes mistakes costly.

Mistakes are already pretty costly, when they are caught.

Pixelated Dragon fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jun 8, 2015

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG

Pixelated Dragon posted:

"poo poo, I just backed into something. I better back up even more!"

Just like the old people who slam into stores and go "I GOT MY PEDALS MIXED UP."

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I saw a big accident today! There were a few cars stopped at a red light, I hear a bang and look up (I was walking, not driving), and I see a Mistubishi on its side skidding down the road. He clipped the corner of a stopped SUV, having made no attempt to slow down, it would seem, at such a speed that it tipped him onto his side. The driver did not speak English and there was no one around who did speak that language (I leave the determination of the language as an exercise for the reader, lest I be accused of racism), but from what I can tell he just wasn't paying attention and plowed straight into a stopped car.

Unfortunately, he was alive and (apparently) well, so he'll probably get a new piece of poo poo SUV and continue to wreak havoc all over our streets. Luckily, he didn't injure anyone this time around, but who knows if we'll be so lucky next time -- if it'd had been an motorcycle instead of a Lexus, or if the incident had been one lane over and the car had skidded to a stop on the sidewalk instead of the curb lane, there would've been fatalities.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


A lot of the recent migrants from africa speak fluent french, as it's the official language in a lot of their countries, but won't settle in quebec because they're super fuckin racist there. Not the casual alberta redneck racism, either. The "follow the black guy around the store at arms length" kind of racist. I talked BMWs with a guy from senegal the other day, and he said his family gives him a hard time because he only drives a BMW and not a mercedes. He was a brick layer in senegal and is doing house framing here, and says the buildings he built there cost half as much and will still be standing 100 years after the houses here fall down.

He came here without a license, and instead of having to have a class 7 for a year, then go through the GDL for a year, he paid $800 for a service that got him a drivers license from rwanda, a country he never set foot in, 3 days of driver training on how to pass the test, and a test with a tester who he said didn't even pay attention to his driving. He said he was ok with it because he was trained in gran turismo, but says if he sees an older mercedes on the road he stays as far away as possible because it's probably one of his family.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Powershift posted:

A lot of the recent migrants from africa speak fluent french, as it's the official language in a lot of their countries, but won't settle in quebec because they're super fuckin racist there. Not the casual alberta redneck racism, either. The "follow the black guy around the store at arms length" kind of racist. I talked BMWs with a guy from senegal the other day, and he said his family gives him a hard time because he only drives a BMW and not a mercedes. He was a brick layer in senegal and is doing house framing here, and says the buildings he built there cost half as much and will still be standing 100 years after the houses here fall down.

He came here without a license, and instead of having to have a class 7 for a year, then go through the GDL for a year, he paid $800 for a service that got him a drivers license from rwanda, a country he never set foot in, 3 days of driver training on how to pass the test, and a test with a tester who he said didn't even pay attention to his driving. He said he was ok with it because he was trained in gran turismo, but says if he sees an older mercedes on the road he stays as far away as possible because it's probably one of his family.

I'm guessing the same poo poo goes on all over the world, which is probably why most "immigrants" (read: visible minority immigrants from third-world countries) have a reputation as poo poo drivers. I think there's a good reason why Canadian licenses don't count for poo poo in Europe (seriously, you have to start from the ground up, at least in Spain).

PT6A fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Jun 8, 2015

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Powershift posted:

but says if he sees an older mercedes on the road he stays as far away as possible because

a wise man

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


PT6A posted:

I'm guessing the same poo poo goes on all over the world. I think there's a good reason why Canadian licenses don't count for poo poo in Europe (seriously, you have to start from the ground up, at least in Spain).

we have reciprocal agreements with some of the more difficult countries like japan and korea. there's probably no agreement with spain because gently caress spain, nobody gives a poo poo about spain.

Germany, france, uk, us, australia, japan, korea. all the big ones are covered. Although Uk only gets you an automatic license, and you have to do a road test to drive a standard because they're commie pinko bastards.

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003

PT6A posted:

The driver did not speak English and there was no one around who did speak that language (I leave the determination of the language as an exercise for the reader, lest I be accused of racism)

It's amazing how much more racist this sounds than "The driver only spoke $language and nobody else did", no matter what language it was

superdylan
Oct 13, 2005
not 100% stupid
Do we have time for another pair of Portland cyclists?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHPeGuufW0g

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Powershift posted:

A lot of the recent migrants from africa speak fluent french, as it's the official language in a lot of their countries, but won't settle in quebec because they're super fuckin racist there.

They might not even be able to communicate with Quebecois, at least not easily. I work with a guy who grew up in France, speaks it natively, but can has trouble understanding French Canadians. Either accent or the words have shifted, I'm not 100% sure.

In his words, "they talk stupid." :v:

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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

xzzy posted:

They might not even be able to communicate with Quebecois, at least not easily. I work with a guy who grew up in France, speaks it natively, but can has trouble understanding French Canadians. Either accent or the words have shifted, I'm not 100% sure.

In his words, "they talk stupid." :v:

Your co-worker is very correct.

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