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Fallout 3 is really bad at organically directing you to stuff. OWB owns and if you cant figure out how to deal with robits you a straight busta.
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Fallout 3 is a veritable smorgasbord, every possible variation of a subway tunnel with feral ghouls you could ever want to explore in every direction as far as the eye reaches. *kisses fingertips* Magnifique.
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Jun 8, 2015 17:15
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Sharkopath posted:My first run was 44 hours and i missed a bunch of questlines I read about later, what the heck. Are any of the Bethesda games all that long if you just blitz the main quest line?
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Jun 8, 2015 17:27
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frajaq posted:Well at least in Fallout 3, at the start, it's more easy to just wander in whatever direction I like after I leave the vault. People keep saying this, but my NV games start off by grabbing a shovel, climbing the left ridge to Chance's grave, then hopping down and running through the canyon. At most I get stung once before the Cazador leashes. No stealth, no Stealth Boy, no modded sprint (I only use JSawyer). If this is terrible forced railroading, Obsidian failed spectacularly.
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Jun 8, 2015 17:30
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It wasn't until my third game that I found out boulder city was a place I was supposed to go.
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Jun 8, 2015 17:37
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Yeah, never went to Boulder City before I finished the game.
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Jun 8, 2015 17:41
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derra posted:People keep saying this, but my NV games start off by grabbing a shovel, climbing the left ridge to Chance's grave, then hopping down and running through the canyon. At most I get stung once before the Cazador leashes. No stealth, no Stealth Boy, no modded sprint (I only use JSawyer). If this is terrible forced railroading, Obsidian failed spectacularly. It's easy to avoid the danger if you know where to go and that you can outrun the obstacles; it's an effective deterrent for a new player who doesn't know either of those things. It's not very strict railroading, but it pushes the player in the direction of the story quite effectively. Unlike FO3 which seems to try its best to hide Megaton from the player, instead sending him on a journey into the middle of nowhere, without a single clue.
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Jun 8, 2015 17:42
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Roaming in random direction should not be a great idea in a desolate wasteland.
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Brainamp posted:It wasn't until my third game that I found out boulder city was a place I was supposed to go. I had the same experience with the 188 trading post. I finally wandered over there about two thirds of the way through the game and there were all these interesting people I'd never talked to, including this one chick in an ugly gray robe. We were getting along great until she asked me if I'd heard of the "Brotherhood of Steel" and I had to explain that, see, actually I'd systematically slaughtered them after the fuckers put an explosive collar on me. Then she freaked out and started punching me so I had to blow her head off with a hunting revolver. Nonlinear storytelling is fantastic.
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Jun 8, 2015 18:23
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Duckbag posted:Nonlinear storytelling is fantastic.  and New Vegas is a clinic on it
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Jun 8, 2015 18:49
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Boulder city is on the main questline track if you actually follow it. The Khans there are one of the Benny breadcrumbs you are following and your favorite robot buddy is there waiting for you like at every one of the quest points. And if you follow that breadcrumb 188 is pretty hard to miss. Can't really blame ya for seeing Vegas and heading there like a moth to a flame tho.
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Jun 8, 2015 19:00
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SpookyLizard posted:Fallout 3 is really bad at organically directing you to stuff. Is the answer "plink at them forever with the bullshit sonic emitter until they overrun you and you die from having no healing items" because I tried that and it hasn't really got me anywhere
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Jun 8, 2015 19:09
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MAKE WAY NEW STARS posted:Is the answer "plink at them forever with the bullshit sonic emitter until they overrun you and you die from having no healing items" because I tried that and it hasn't really got me anywhere
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Jun 8, 2015 19:11
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MAKE WAY NEW STARS posted:Is the answer "plink at them forever with the bullshit sonic emitter until they overrun you and you die from having no healing items" because I tried that and it hasn't really got me anywhere
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MAKE WAY NEW STARS posted:Is the answer "plink at them forever with the bullshit sonic emitter until they overrun you and you die from having no healing items" because I tried that and it hasn't really got me anywhere
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Jun 8, 2015 19:17
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I have several proton axes because I pick up everything ever and they don't do poo poo because my dude has no melee skills
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Jun 8, 2015 19:21
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maybe you just suck
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Jun 8, 2015 19:22
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MAKE WAY NEW STARS posted:I have several proton axes because I pick up everything ever and they don't do poo poo because my dude has no melee skills
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Jun 8, 2015 19:24
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MAKE WAY NEW STARS posted:I have several proton axes because I pick up everything ever and they don't do poo poo because my dude has no melee skills The secret to Bethesda melee system (C) is to flail around like a loving retard 100% of the time.
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Jun 8, 2015 19:42
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Proton Axe is probably my favorite melee weapon just because it's a Wasteland reference. Any problems you have in OWB is easily solved by using that weapon.
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Jun 8, 2015 20:11
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derra posted:People keep saying this, but my NV games start off by grabbing a shovel, climbing the left ridge to Chance's grave, then hopping down and running through the canyon. At most I get stung once before the Cazador leashes. No stealth, no Stealth Boy, no modded sprint (I only use JSawyer). If this is terrible forced railroading, Obsidian failed spectacularly. I usually go Goodsprings > Sloan > Neil's Shack, then through the bear trap and Indiana Jones boulder path through Black Mountain to the north, then you end up right in front of REPCONN HQ and can hit the Strip at level 1 with enough money and the ability to pass a 50 Speech check with Mick.
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Jun 8, 2015 20:23
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Started a new play through, and went through Primm, and I don't think I did the quest "right." I talked to the NCR folks and then kind of ran around and blew up powder gangers and rescued Deputy Beagle without ever triggering a quest marker. Did I miss something or somebody to talk to? I played the game at launch but yeah, obviously that was a while ago.
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Jun 8, 2015 20:58
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frajaq posted:Well at least in Fallout 3, at the start, it's more easy to just wander in whatever direction I like after I leave the vault. There's other shortcuts, like Black Mountain and Hidden Valley. You just won't know about them on your first playthrough unless you explore off the beaten path, so you're condition to just follow the road and quest markers.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:01
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bengy81 posted:Started a new play through, and went through Primm, and I don't think I did the quest "right." Did you go into the Vikki and Vance casino across from the Bison Steve? Talking to folks in there should get the quest started. edit -- I literally did this quest over the weekend and almost forgot to head in there myself.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:03
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bengy81 posted:Started a new play through, and went through Primm, and I don't think I did the quest "right." Did you actually talk to Deputy Beagle after he left the Bison Steve?
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Jun 8, 2015 21:10
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Garrand posted:Did you actually talk to Deputy Beagle after he left the Bison Steve? I thought Johnson Nash had to inform you that Beagle knew anything in the first place.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:19
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Filthy Casual posted:I usually go Goodsprings > Sloan > Neil's Shack, then through the bear trap and Indiana Jones boulder path through Black Mountain to the north, then you end up right in front of REPCONN HQ and can hit the Strip at level 1 with enough money and the ability to pass a 50 Speech check with Mick. Don't even need the money and speech skill if you can find a dead ncr dude (not hard) and take his uniform. Then you can take the monorail right on in to Vegas.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:58
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Which is more fun, melee or unarmed? I can't decide between the two, and there's enough perk differences (especially for unarmed) that I don't really care to try using both at once. "Fun" here being such things as ragdolling enemies and general goofiness stuff.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:06
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Azhais posted:Don't even need the money and speech skill if you can find a dead ncr dude (not hard) and take his uniform. Then you can take the monorail right on in to Vegas. True, there's probably a spare armor set in McCarran. Although, I typically like to have the Naughty Nightwear early, so that has me leaning towards the forged passport route. Megadong: If you're going for goof factor, Unarmed has some cool special moves you can learn.
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I run to Freeside, gamble a bit to get the 2k caps, open up the strip but don't enter, and buy a int implant.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:22
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Melee has the protonic inversal axe, protonic inversal throwing axes, rippers, cosmic knifes, Gehenna, the katana, and the bumper sword. Unarmed has the fist of rawr, the mantis king, she's embrace.... Honestly I think melee wins out. It's more practical, it's got a bigger variety of weapons some of which are really cool, you can find good and unique ones early on in the game, also melee gives you ranged options(if limited in use because of supply) and unarmed doesn't. On the other hand unarmed lets you uppercut deathclaws and legionnaires which is awesome, but I'll say that the novelty does wear off eventually.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:25
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Filthy Casual posted:True, there's probably a spare armor set in McCarran. Although, I typically like to have the Naughty Nightwear early, so that has me leaning towards the forged passport route. isn't there a dead ncr soldier right at the base of said Indiana Jones boulder hill near Black Mountain. it's my go-to game start as well
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Jun 8, 2015 22:26
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The novelty of being in hand to hand combat with deathclaws wears off eventually too
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Jun 8, 2015 22:45
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megalodong posted:Which is more fun, melee or unarmed? I can't decide between the two, and there's enough perk differences (especially for unarmed) that I don't really care to try using both at once. level up both for Piercing Strike and Ninja
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Jun 8, 2015 22:48
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Garrand posted:Did you actually talk to Deputy Beagle after he left the Bison Steve? I talked to him and Johnson Nash after I rescued him, so I guess i did finish that quest after all!
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Jun 8, 2015 23:40
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Excelzior posted:isn't there a dead ncr soldier right at the base of said Indiana Jones boulder hill near Black Mountain. poo poo, no duh. Also worth stopping by Hoover Dam to get the Chinese Stealth Armor.
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Jun 8, 2015 23:53
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Also worth not playing the game at all at that point.
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Jun 9, 2015 00:11
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Alternatively, don't play either Fallout 3 or New Vegas and just post about it ITT
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Is JESawyer's mod genuinely fun? I mean, places like OWB and even Dead Money just seem like they're going to be loving torrid. Also being able to carry no more than 3 teaspoons.
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maev posted:Is JESawyer's mod genuinely fun? I mean, places like OWB and even Dead Money just seem like they're going to be loving torrid. Also being able to carry no more than 3 teaspoons. It was fun. It was very challenging but winning felt awesome. You want to win, don't you? Also don't lug around an automatic rifle and holorifle that you can't use because you don't have the strength and energy weapons skill for them and you'll be fine.
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