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Aside from watching Arumba's modpack video again, is there a list of what keyboard shortcuts his keyboard shortcut mod adds?
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Fister Roboto posted:Expansion is easier in terms of AE, but the monarch point cost is a lot more expensive. 10 ADM/DIP per development point is pretty high, and also the discount for having a claim is now only -10%. I'm starting to wonder if this change didn't tip things too far in favor of vertical growth. Right now it feels a lot easier to just take provinces without anyone caring. Edit: And that is a little worrisome, feels way easier. Pooned fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Jun 9, 2015 |
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Jun 9, 2015 21:43
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Last Emperor posted:Nope. Heroes and inspirations to us all.
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Spiderfist Island posted:Yeah, I'm also having these trackpad issues as well, and to top it off the built-in keyboard shortcuts don't even work anymore. Plugging in a mouse makes zooming take forever now, and the game seems to be burning up my computer considerably more than it did previously. These are basically my issues, hope its all sortable.
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Jun 9, 2015 21:53
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Started a game as burgundy and it's going quite well. The four vassals really help since you in taking France down, and if you're lucky you can attack while they fight Provence. I can't really figure out the development changes though; is it better to specialize your provinces or try to keep them all fairly developed?
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Pooned posted:Right now it feels a lot easier to just take provinces without anyone caring. Easier to take, harder to core, from my understandings. Also anyone recommend a good non-euro country to play? I've never played outside of europe. I think I tried once as Japan, looked at the Daimo system, got confused, and went back to europe. Is south america fun now with el dorado ? How is China and asia now?
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So what are the baselines I need/need to get used to to be prepared for goon multiplayer? Having only played some EU3 multiplayer briefly across a couple quickly-dead games, I don't really know the etiquette that you fellas have developed regarding gamespeed, pausing, diplomacy amongst players/peacedeals, etc. Any pointers, as I'd like to not being going in blind when I (eventually) get involved.
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Jun 9, 2015 21:55
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Baronjutter posted:Easier to take, harder to core, from my understandings. I had a lot of fun playing as the Aztec with El Dorado. The early game with them is basically a whole different beast. It is a never ending cycle of war, taking vassals, and then releasing those vassals to get religious reforms all while balancing the Doom meter. When I finally removed the last independent country in Central America, I had an aggressive expansion penalty of somewhere north of 800 points. It really is a lot of fun.
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Jun 9, 2015 21:59
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I'm loving the meltdown the Paradox Forums are having about this right now. One guy is complaining that they added a diplo point cost to annex vassals. Which they added something like 4 patches ago. This is glorious  edit: And then Wiz came in to the "For the Love of God, Lower the Coring Cost" thread and left a great reply that just got them angrier: Wiz posted:no axeil fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jun 9, 2015 |
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Jun 9, 2015 22:07
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Arzakon posted:From last thread - That's probably what happened. Everything turned out alright though.  Might be the luckiest i've ever been in this game.
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Jun 9, 2015 22:09
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Baronjutter posted:Easier to take, harder to core, from my understandings.
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Jun 9, 2015 22:10
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England's probably the easiest I've seen it be. In my game France got dogpiled and I've been able to take the entirety of Brittany and all my continental cores, as well as Ireland and the best parts of Scotland, and it's not even 1500 yet.
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Jun 9, 2015 22:11
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Baronjutter posted:Also anyone recommend a good non-euro country to play? I've never played outside of europe. I think I tried once as Japan, looked at the Daimo system, got confused, and went back to europe. Is south america fun now with el dorado ? How is China and asia now? Last Emperor posted:Dibujante and I will be taking over Europa Gooniversalis development now and basically rebuilding it from the ground up. 
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Jun 9, 2015 22:17
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Growing wide is terribly expensive and growing tall is terribly expensive, not to mention peace deal costs that've shot through the roof. I'm not liking this at all so far. Hopefully a fresh start tomorrow will change my outlook, but I fear it's just too many changes at once for an old guy like me.
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Jun 9, 2015 22:20
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Jolan posted:Growing wide is terribly expensive and growing tall is terribly expensive, not to mention peace deal costs that've shot through the roof. I'm not liking this at all so far. Hopefully a fresh start tomorrow will change my outlook, but I fear it's just too many changes at once for an old guy like me. I suspect they intended to force some actual tough decisions, although maybe they went farther than planned.
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Jun 9, 2015 22:29
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My plan for an Italy game became less fun seeming when I realised that North Italy has an obscene amount of super expensive (to core) provinces. I might try another Mughal game or maybe Manchu or a Turkish minor just for core cost reduction. Also now my game won't start  Jolan posted:Growing wide is terribly expensive and growing tall is terribly expensive, not to mention peace deal costs that've shot through the roof. I'm not liking this at all so far. Hopefully a fresh start tomorrow will change my outlook, but I fear it's just too many changes at once for an old guy like me. I'm ok with it in theory, my main caveats are that 1. AI development spam is going to make the mid game terrible 2. Non-Westerners are going to have a worse time due to generally having fewer discretionary monarch points and 3. Administrative and Development Efficiency are too backloaded to have any impact on most games.
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Jun 9, 2015 22:30
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I found it, I found the bug in this DLC Separatists of your country inherit you when they enforce demands. I just became a Feudal Monarchy with a new king/lovely ideas thanks to Cyprus revolting form the Mamluks. What the gently caress happened to patriot rebels
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Jun 9, 2015 22:35
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Trujillo posted:That's probably what happened. Everything turned out alright though. I closed my laptop and went to work as soon as I got stackwiped with all of my provinces hanging out with rebels on it. I did think the Madurain separatists would wander over to Viji which is pretty funny especially if one of the Madurain cores has a fort on it, the one that is sieged own already in their land? Any reason you took the inland province instead of the CoT on the coast? I noticed the AE is pretty beefy up there but took it anyways and got coalitioned. Going to need to start improving relations if I want to try and grab all three. Why did my boss schedule a 4-6PM meeting today...
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Jun 9, 2015 22:36
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like what the gently caress lol
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Jun 9, 2015 22:39
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Hmm, France forced Burgundy to release some stuff, including province of Cambray (uhh, Hainaut maybe? I forget, they were purple, not sure it matters) and they started out as a junior partner in a PU under nobody. Mousing over their ruler gave me a CTD.
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Jun 9, 2015 22:40
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Average Bear posted:like what the gently caress lol  This is a good bug.
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Jun 9, 2015 22:47
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How, I have to respend monarch points to get my good idea sets back and have no legitimacy edit: didn't even notice my monarch points getting drained. Great waste of 4 hours by ruining this ironman save Average Bear fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jun 9, 2015 |
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Jun 9, 2015 22:55
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reL posted:So what are the baselines I need/need to get used to to be prepared for goon multiplayer? Having only played some EU3 multiplayer briefly across a couple quickly-dead games, I don't really know the etiquette that you fellas have developed regarding gamespeed, pausing, diplomacy amongst players/peacedeals, etc. Any pointers, as I'd like to not being going in blind when I (eventually) get involved. Might get a better response in the PGS thread here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3577057&pagenumber=109#lastpost To answer your questions though basically Gamespeed is 2 pretty much all the time, there's no pausing either so you learn to make snap decisions. Diplomacy is pretty much a free-for-all with a lot of players discussing things in the time between our weekly sessions. Our current game is almost to the end-date and we'll be recruiting for a new one soon so keep an eye out. It's one of those things that you just learn as you stick with it. Also, when you lose your first war against a Player/suffer your first traitorous backstab.
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Jun 9, 2015 22:59
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Starting a game as Austria and it basically sends me a warning that if all Kingdom of Italy provinces are not brought into the Empire until 1490 and kept there until 1550, they're going to leave for good. Seems like a rather harsh way to direct your aggression, as I was hoping to take Bohemia down a peg or two first.
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Jun 9, 2015 23:07
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Something is definitely wonky with forts - do they only stop movement if they're fully garrisoned? Just watched Poland march across a hostile Brandenburg to Holstein, passing right through Berlin without stopping to siege the capitol or the castle that is built there, which as far as I know isn't a thing that should be possible now.
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Jun 9, 2015 23:10
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Average Bear posted:How, I have to respend monarch points to get my good idea sets back and have no legitimacy Well, other than the part where it's save-ruining.
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This is going to take some adjusting to. Initial impressions- Vassalisations take significantly longer - playing Granada and the standard eat Tlemcen start involves a 9 year diplo annex and some truly insane monarch point investments. Rebellions smashing provinces in one tick is rough, particularly at the beginning of the game as a small power. Harsh treatment is a real consideration now when the rebel stacks are strong and are likely to force more seperatism on you before you can adequately deal with them. Monarch points are like gold dust now. Coring costs up, annexing costs up and now monarch point expenditure on province development means you have to be really careful with what you spend them on. I feel like a string of low tier rules will absolutely crush your ability to do anything. I get the impression the game wants you to take it much slower now, but when nothing you can do in the slow periods really allows you to ever go much faster it feels like a bit of a drag. I'll get used to it as always but the change is definitely a bit jarring.
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Sheep posted:Something is definitely wonky with forts - do they only stop movement if they're fully garrisoned? Just watched Poland march across a hostile Brandenburg to Holstein, passing right through Berlin without stopping to siege the capitol or the castle that is built there, which as far as I know isn't a thing that should be possible now. IIRC, the free fort you get in your capital does not have any zone of control.
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As the Papal States (and joined in the HRE), Aragon just made a coalition declaration of war on me, pulling in a bunch of OPMs and minors... ...but I'm allied to both Austria and France and they joined on my side, and Austria pulled in Hungary too. I don't think Aragon really thought this through properly.  Edit: There are few things in EU4 as delightful as seeing as a combined Austria-France 60-stack smash anyone who looks at you funny. Roadie fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Jun 9, 2015 |
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Jun 9, 2015 23:13
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Wilekat posted:Rebellions smashing provinces in one tick is rough, particularly at the beginning of the game as a small power. This is really annoying, especially with the ten years of separatism. Forts stop them but this also means you have to build forts literally everywhere. It would be a lot better if separatism ramped up based on how long the province is occupied by rebels instead of just "occupied for 1 day, eat 10 years of separatism!" like it is now. CaptCommy posted:IIRC, the free fort you get in your capital does not have any zone of control. Brandenburg starts with a castle in Berlin as well, which is why I said the capitol and castle. It's 3k total garrison (1k capitol + 2k castle), so as far as I know people marching straight through it shouldn't be possible but I definitely just watched it happen. Edit: I'm guessing what happened is that zones of control don't go into effect until the month ticks over after having checked the button to maintain your forts (even if said fort is also your capitol and has a default 1/3 of its garrison at all times, which is unintuitive but understandable from a gameplay perspective). So it looks like if you rush enemy forts on day 1 of a war you have 27-30 days to instasiege them if they were not being maintained. Kinda silly. Sheep fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jun 10, 2015 |
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Mans posted:Tunisia, Oman, Ethiopia, Mali, Timurids, Vijayanagar, Dai Viet and Brunei own, try them out. This is a good list. Vijay is kinda easy though, I would suggest Orissa instead. Majapahit is interesting since you're Hindu but in mostly-Sunni Indonesia. Kilwa is rich and good.
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Baronjutter posted:Easier to take, harder to core, from my understandings. Some of my most fun games have been as Malacca (though you can substitute this for Brunei or Majapahit), Bengal, and Iroquois.
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Jun 9, 2015 23:25
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Ah, new EUIV DLC. This means I can continue my strategy of waiting for a new add-on to go on sale before buying the older ones on sale. Finally I can try Art of War!
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Wilekat posted:Monarch points are like gold dust now. Coring costs up, annexing costs up and now monarch point expenditure on province development means you have to be really careful with what you spend them on. I feel like a string of low tier rules will absolutely crush your ability to do anything. This is why monarch points are the worst idea Paradox has ever had. "Hey let's make a resource that's required for literally everything and can only be obtained through random die rolls the player has no ability to influence! They'll love it!"
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So the first big dumb exploit with CS has been found. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/how-to-not-get-eaten-by-austria-as-ravensburg-wad.860854/ i love it e; for anyone who can't tell what happened, the player as an OPM joined a coalition against Burgundy and declared the war, let themselves get sieged, and then in the peace deal gave ALL of Austria's land away
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Jun 9, 2015 23:43
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Jabarto posted:"Hey let's make a resource that's required for literally everything and can only be obtained through random die rolls the player has no ability to influence! They'll love it!" Well, you can just let your lovely heirs get killed in sieges until you roll a good one
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Another Person posted:So the first big dumb exploit with CS has been found.
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Another Person posted:So the first big dumb exploit with CS has been found. This is the best Day 1 Paradox DLC bug ever.I'm guessing the "rebels taking land without forts in 1 month causing 10 years of nationalism" is an unintended consequence. Unless Wiz wanted to really buff up the rebels?
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Oh man I forgot how tiny the UI is in the vanilla game. Hurry up and update UI mod  I also forgot how much analysis paralysis this game generates. I was psyched to play Common Sense and the second I load up a Muscovy game I'm immediately terrified to do anything. \/\/ Awesome, good looking out.
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VDay posted:Oh man I forgot how tiny the UI is in the vanilla game. Hurry up and update UI mod If you have a Paradox forums account you can download it from there. Apparently the Steam Workshop poo poo itself and every mod that updated today (all the UI ones) are messed up despite actually working on the developer's system. For now just do a manual install until it gets working again.
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