[Mafia] Hip-Hopfia 1.5

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Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

Don't be a drama queen.

##vote pmach artificial af aggressive non-engagement

# ? Jun 10, 2015 16:11

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# ? Apr 24, 2024 11:39

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Tremendous Taste posted:

Action Bronson has had a pretty good year. Aside from his continuing youtube cooking/eating series with Vice, his first major label album, Mr. Wonderful, was released to decent sales and positive critical reception. I'd hardly consider it his best work, but it's a nice milestone for a guy who's only been rapping seriously for half a decade. A former gourmet chef and continual libertine, his lyrics revolve around real and imagined day-to-day adventures in drugs, sex, and cuisine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPCQgzA1cnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m5n8_VS_Ho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weAPJCAmDRU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVP_w1rQweE

In honor of Bronson, you have the option of making a rap related to your favorite food, sexual encounter, or drug. Submit your raps by lynch deadline, and I'll post them all at the flip. You'll then be able to discuss which is best. When you've reached a decision, or a deadlock requiring a vote, we'll conclude the challenge and the winner will receive a prize.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 16:18

Propaganda Machine: Jan 2, 2005; Truthiness!

Pinterest Mom posted:

Don't be a drama queen.

##vote pmach artificial af aggressive non-engagement

I'd rather have that on d1 than five pages of arguing about confirmation post vt claims.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 20:41

Diqnol: May 10, 2010

Taste, does it matter how long it is? I don't know how much I can really talk about weed.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 20:47

t a s t e: Sep 6, 2010

Quality over quantity

# ? Jun 10, 2015 20:48

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

Preface:
I re-read the thread quoting posts that pinged me as I went along, then I determined who I would vote based upon plurality of pinging posts or a lack of quality posts. I have a few cases inbound. My first and largest is against Captain Foo.

Captain Foo

Captain Foo posted:

hahahahaha voting someone for an early case, calling anything at all going hard

Would you explain to me why voting someone for their early case is bad? or Hilarious as it clearly sent you into hysterics.

Captain Foo posted:

imo i find people jumping on early d1 vt claims scummier than actually doing it, but doing it in the first place is white noise at best

Then why do you disagree with me on my feelings about G PP?

Captain Foo posted:

pizzapie seems fine2me so far

This logic contradicts your post about people who jump on early d1 vt claims as scummier.

Captain Foo posted:

because you're trying to dictate how people think about a certain case by providing logic that can't be determined from the thread, and only exists in your head.

who i think is scum at the moment should be evident given my vote

Isn't trying to persuade how people think about cases an integral part to the game?

Captain Foo posted:

it's a miserable pile of shitposts

Your statements up to this point in the game had only been negative and not at all indicative of intent to actually hunt scum. Your shitpost post is a miserable poo poo post? :ironicat:

Captain Foo posted:

this is a piss bad vote and also contains what seems to be an attempt to distract from real discussion, along w/ the surrounding posts

I'm beginning to notice a trend where you're negative towards everyone's casing or votes while actually providing a limited amount yourself. While this vote may not have been the best, you weren't even the first person to call it out and it feels like you're doing so in part to discredit any possible work that could identify scum, and you seem pretty confident about G PP's alignment even though his actions contradict one of your first statements in the game.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 21:28

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

Hal Incandenza

Hal Incandenza posted:

Yeah this is the way to go ##vote Ghostly Gangsta

Would you please elaborate on this vote? Or actually try to provide some content in your posting? Your posts in this thread have been brief, nonconstructive statements that ride on momentum generated by others or slink into the background as noise.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 21:31

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

Pinterest Mom
This isn't a case against you, instead I think you're looking at the statement in Roydrowsy's argument in a weird way.
Roydrowsy's second point that you quoted wasn't at all weird. It's a valid point, what does G PP gain by taking credit for getting the game started, regardless of who goaded who. It's pointless and only serves to fluff his own ego. How does it make him more credible as a player in this game? Wouldn't scum, playing a game also want the game to go?

# ? Jun 10, 2015 21:33

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

GIUSSEPPE PIZZAPIE

GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:

Bad post, compadre. You're completely riding on the back of things other people said and did the classic faux +1 to content thing that scum tend to do. You're also framing this argument from an emotional perspective, basically saying without saying it that you find my mannerisms irritating rather than finding me scummy.

From his post and vote, it would seem that he actually found your mannerisms scummy, not just irritating. You're using irritating mannerisms in a negative way to impact town. OR at least that's how it feels to me. The entirety of your posting feels this way to me.

GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:

Certainty about what? That I am town? I can post my PM if you want, haha.

Certainty that scum is voting for me? No, theres no true certainty there I suppose, it just seems more likely than not, especially given the speed at which my votes piled up and the generally weak reasons behind them.

As if you would actually post it. :rolleyes:

If you did, and weren't modkilled, wouldn't we also know that you're a liar?

# ? Jun 10, 2015 21:34

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

I forgot to vote.

##vote Captain Foo

I'm not scum y'all. I'm just a young MC coming up in the game.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 21:35

Diqnol: May 10, 2010

None of those are cases. They are you asking a lot of questions directed at specific people. In the case of Foo, it boils down to the fact that he isn't voting me for being mad at Pmom (I will direct you to the fact, again, that I never voted for Pint) and for stifling content. You also seem to blame me for the latter. With Hal, you just called him a lurker.

I'm pretty confident he's scum.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:07

Diqnol: May 10, 2010

Also, get your stuff in for the contest guys, I submitted mine.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:10

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:

Also, get your stuff in for the contest guys, I submitted mine.

same

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:23

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Ghastly Gangsta posted:

Preface:
I re-read the thread quoting posts that pinged me as I went along, then I determined who I would vote based upon plurality of pinging posts or a lack of quality posts. I have a few cases inbound. My first and largest is against Captain Foo.

Captain Foo

Would you explain to me why voting someone for their early case is bad? or Hilarious as it clearly sent you into hysterics.

Then why do you disagree with me on my feelings about G PP?

This logic contradicts your post about people who jump on early d1 vt claims as scummier.

Isn't trying to persuade how people think about cases an integral part to the game?

Your statements up to this point in the game had only been negative and not at all indicative of intent to actually hunt scum. Your shitpost post is a miserable poo poo post?

I'm beginning to notice a trend where you're negative towards everyone's casing or votes while actually providing a limited amount yourself. While this vote may not have been the best, you weren't even the first person to call it out and it feels like you're doing so in part to discredit any possible work that could identify scum, and you seem pretty confident about G PP's alignment even though his actions contradict one of your first statements in the game.

okay let's address points here:
first and foremost i will admit it's easier to poke holes in other people's posts than build strong cases yourself and i might be a little cavalier about doing it HOWEVUH

this is the definition of cherrypicking. you emphasize that i'm providing a limited amount of content, casing, or votes while quoting all things you find scummy. the problem here is that you're letting my posting style dictate your feel towards me; i post a lot of one-thought posts. if you don't like my style that's gonna make me look really bad in your eyes without actually being scummy very much at all. basically your premise lead you to a predetermined conclusion

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:29

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:

None of those are cases. They are you asking a lot of questions directed at specific people. In the case of Foo, it boils down to the fact that he isn't voting me for being mad at Pmom (I will direct you to the fact, again, that I never voted for Pint) and for stifling content. You also seem to blame me for the latter. With Hal, you just called him a lurker.

I'm pretty confident he's scum.

There are a lot of questions there, but some are rhetorical statements. There is a section that definitely details why I think Foo's posts are bad, but you fail to actually cite it hoping that people will instead defer to your succinct, innacurate summary.

The case for Foo boils down that he hasn't actually contributed to the content value of this game and instead has done a good job dismantling other peoples opinions, not just mine. Also I'm not blaming you for anything or trying to blame you at all. That actually confused me a good deal. I stated that I found your early jumping on P Mom to be scummy. I don't care if you actually voted them, and to make the fuss you did without placing a vote is still suspicious.

Hal isn't lurking. He's just making real brief poo poo posts, but clearly following the game.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:29

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

it seems like you're deliberately not reading my explanation as to how bottle's attempt at persuasion was scummy; i went into it in pretty good detail and you instead glossed it over with 'trying to persuade people is the name of the game!!'

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:31

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Ghastly Gangsta posted:

The case for Foo boils down that he hasn't actually contributed to the content value of this game and instead has done a good job dismantling other peoples opinions, not just mine.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:32

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

Captain Foo posted:

okay let's address points here:
first and foremost i will admit it's easier to poke holes in other people's posts than build strong cases yourself and i might be a little cavalier about doing it HOWEVUH

this is the definition of cherrypicking. you emphasize that i'm providing a limited amount of content, casing, or votes while quoting all things you find scummy. the problem here is that you're letting my posting style dictate your feel towards me; i post a lot of one-thought posts. if you don't like my style that's gonna make me look really bad in your eyes without actually being scummy very much at all. basically your premise lead you to a predetermined conclusion

It's not your style that I'm against, I'm against your actions in this game and your contradiction that you still haven't addressed. Actually attempt at answering the questions I've asked, I'll gladly do the same of you and anyone else in this thread.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:32

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Ghastly Gangsta posted:

Preface:
I re-read the thread quoting posts that pinged me as I went along, then I determined who I would vote based upon plurality of pinging posts or a lack of quality posts. I have a few cases inbound. My first and largest is against Captain Foo.

Captain Foo
I'm beginning to notice a trend where you're negative towards everyone's casing or votes while actually providing a limited amount yourself. While this vote may not have been the best, you weren't even the first person to call it out and it feels like you're doing so in part to discredit any possible work that could identify scum, and you seem pretty confident about G PP's alignment even though his actions contradict one of your first statements in the game.

calling out votes that appear to be scummy votes is not itself scummy, even if someone else had done it first. I don't rely a ton on what other people are doing D1 because there's no way to really judge any sort of relationships between players (or lack thereof) until there's a piece or two of evidence i.e. the lynch and the nk

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:34

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Captain Foo posted:

hahahahaha voting someone for an early case, calling anything at all going hard

iirc my logic here was more in the second part? za really wasn't casing as he went on to explain clearly, and you tried to jump down his throat for it.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:37

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Captain Foo posted:

iirc my logic here was more in the second part? za really wasn't casing as he went on to explain clearly, and you tried to jump down his throat for it.

mafia edit: "you" == GG

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:37

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

Captain Foo posted:

it seems like you're deliberately not reading my explanation as to how bottle's attempt at persuasion was scummy; i went into it in pretty good detail and you instead glossed it over with 'trying to persuade people is the name of the game!!'

Well let's look at that explanation that you went into pretty good detail on:

BottleKnight posted:

This is a bad post. A very lovely attempt to discredit a vote on you, with no alignment calls, which you clearly have only posted as a setup for an OMGUS later on.

You're not trying to scum hunt, you're just trying to push heat off you in the easiest way you could find.

I'm sorry if you're irritable but you normally are very cool-headed so something is wrong.

##vote diqnol

Captain Foo posted:

lmao at calling anything "clear" early d1 or really in mafia at all

##vote bottlerocket

BottleKnight posted:

Are you disagreeing with my reads or specifically just calling out my play? What do you think of Diqnol?

Captain Foo posted:

i'm specifically calling you on doing people's thinking for them, i.e. "he did x because clearly p and q"

BottleKnight posted:

Why would that make me scummy? Who do you think is scum in this game so far?

Captain Foo posted:

because you're trying to dictate how people think about a certain case by providing logic that can't be determined from the thread, and only exists in your head.

who i think is scum at the moment should be evident given my vote

You make accusations and deflect the entire time!

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:40

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

yeah ok i see what you're trying to build here, GG.

i explained a general read of mine, that about people jumping on D1 claims as being scummy
za jumped on a D1 claim
I don't find za scummy
:siren:

CONTRADICTION :siren:

problem is as follows - everyhing za actually did after calling out the D1 claim, most notably calmly explaining his position as well as also not really going hard on the case, as you seem to think he did.
THEREFORE za's behavior doesn't actually fit my general read any longer

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:41

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Ghastly Gangsta posted:

Well let's look at that explanation that you went into pretty good detail on:

You make accusations and deflect the entire time!

did you even read what you quoted
also you left out a post of mine where i said za is playing fine, which you're trying to use against me a few posts upthread

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:42

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

idk how much more clear i can be, i think bottle is scummy because he's creating a narrative that doesn't exist outside of his post, and using it to justify calling someone else scummy.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:45

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

Frankly I think I've made some of the best posts in this game

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:50

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

Captain Foo posted:

i'm specifically calling you on doing people's thinking for them, i.e. "he did x because clearly p and q"

Captain Foo posted:

because you're trying to dictate how people think about a certain case by providing logic that can't be determined from the thread, and only exists in your head.

who i think is scum at the moment should be evident given my vote

OMG, you're doing the same thing you peg him for!

Everyone does this, especially so on day 1! It feels like you're being intentionally dense about that and that's twice now that you've established a contradiction in your thoughts.

First with the G PP stance, that he did not at all calmly explain. He was acting panicky especially as heat built on him.

Now with this logic that justifying your stances from D1 reads is scummy. When your original stance was that telling people what to think was scummy.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:51

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

Hal Incandenza posted:

Frankly I think I've made some of the best posts in this game

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:53

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

Ghastly Gangsta posted:

Ghastly Gangstas just don't understand

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:59

death cob for cutie: Dec 30, 2006; dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4

GG, you could probably do with some calming down.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:59

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

Epsilon Plus posted:

GG, you could probably do with some calming down.

I'm not being rude or anything, I said I was going to be back to make some cases and I did, and now I have to stand in defense of them. What am I doing wrong? :shrug:

# ? Jun 10, 2015 23:01

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

Deadline is about 4 hours away, is anyone going to be around?

# ? Jun 10, 2015 23:04

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

I don't think you are doing anything wrong GG, it's not your fault that you're scum.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 23:10

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

Captain Foo posted:

idk how much more clear i can be, i think bottle is scummy because he's creating a narrative that doesn't exist outside of his post, and using it to justify calling someone else scummy.

I just want to be clear, since you never asked me about it, just accused me of it, I said Diqnol set up an OMGUS because he posted an OMGUS half an hour later, and my read was that he setup that. I wasn't making that up out of thin air. He responded to my questions and then I suspected him less. If you have any questions for me, I'll be happy to answer them.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 23:19

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

Ghastly Gangsta posted:

I forgot to vote.

##vote Captain Foo

I'm not scum y'all. I'm just a young MC coming up in the game.

Are you breadcrumbing your rapper? Isn't alignment random?

# ? Jun 10, 2015 23:20

HiipFire: Sep 1, 2013; JENNY DEATH LIVES

young mc isnt a new act

how dare you lie to us

# ? Jun 10, 2015 23:20

HiipFire: Sep 1, 2013; JENNY DEATH LIVES

oh nevermind im dumb DONT MIND ME

# ? Jun 10, 2015 23:21

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

BottleKnight posted:

Are you breadcrumbing your rapper? Isn't alignment random?

Yeah, I guess breadcrumbing my rapper is dumb, but I didn't post my vote for Foo in my case on him so I just decided to spice up the post where I actually did.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 23:23

death cob for cutie: Dec 30, 2006; dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4

Ghastly Gangsta posted:

Yeah, I guess breadcrumbing my rapper is dumb, but I didn't post my vote for Foo in my case on him so I just decided to spice up the post where I actually did.

##vote Ghastly Gangsta

# ? Jun 10, 2015 23:25

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# ? Apr 24, 2024 11:39

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

Epsilon Plus posted:

##vote Ghastly Gangsta

Any reason why??? Also you didn't answer the post about calming down?

# ? Jun 10, 2015 23:27

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