Canadian internet access gets shittier

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Skandranon: Sep 6, 2008; fucking stupid, dont listen to me

Siochain posted:

There's a few others that I haven't had enough coffee to remember yet, but we have produced a lot of quality TV

I wouldn't go quite so far. Most of the bad stuff has been due to lack of budget though. The well funded stuff is as good/bad as anything from the US.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 16:15

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 03:33

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

Siochain posted:

I'll stab you for not liking the Littlest Hobo.
Corner Gas was also good for a while.
Beachcombers was amazing.
Reboot (cartoon, but amazing).
There's a few others that I haven't had enough coffee to remember yet, but we have produced a lot of quality TV

Bring it. I will gladly fight to the death over the terribleness that was Canada's Lassie.

That said, yes I'm being mostly facetious.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 16:18

Shumagorath: Jun 6, 2001

Showcase has some decent original programming since Shaw bought them and killed all the obscure European soft porn.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 16:45

WaffleLove: Aug 16, 2007

Shumagorath posted:

Rogers has decent plans for landline internet but they do shady things like traffic injection (and lied to me three times before I quit back in 2007). Their cell service is still preferable to Wind where it's usually "works at your house or office but never both".

Bell's bad reputation started with their truly awful outsourced customer service and then really crashed and burned with the UBB fiasco. Even their jobs website is awful; it's the only time I decided I would rather not have the posted job than spend the required effort to complete the application.

That funny. Bell tech support was done by the same company I did rogers tech support with(alpine access) to my knowledge. Which hires people state side and Canada side only for work from home or center work.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 17:18

thexerox123: Aug 17, 2007

Shumagorath posted:

Showcase has some decent original programming since Shaw bought them and killed all the obscure European soft porn.

Yeah, Continuum has been great!
Although it's ending in a few months.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 18:07

Delsaber: Oct 1, 2013; This may or may not be correct.

I for one really miss PJ Katie's Farm.

# ? Jun 10, 2015 22:12

Bieeanshee: Aug 21, 2000; Not keen on keening.; Grimey Drawer

Snit was the best thing to happen to YTV.

# ? Jun 11, 2015 02:17

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

A talking TV screen? Really? Not the asian dude or the girl?

# ? Jun 11, 2015 02:59

John Capslocke: Jun 5, 2007

Mister Macys posted:

A talking TV screen? Really? Not the asian dude or the girl?

To make you feel really old, this is PJ Phil today:

# ? Jun 11, 2015 03:00

Bieeanshee: Aug 21, 2000; Not keen on keening.; Grimey Drawer

Mister Macys posted:

A talking TV screen? Really? Not the asian dude or the girl?

What can I say? Putting a set of dentist's demonstrator teeth on CCTV was inspired.

# ? Jun 11, 2015 03:33

JawKnee: Mar 24, 2007; You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Phil showing off his jewelry is a childhood memory

# ? Jun 11, 2015 05:26

The Dark One: Aug 19, 2005; I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!

JawKnee posted:

Phil showing off his jewelry is a childhood memory

One time he flipped his hair forward and put his sunglasses over it. :allears:

# ? Jun 11, 2015 07:15

Bloody Hedgehog: Dec 12, 2003; 💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

I was a bit old at the time for the YTV PJ's, but anyone remember Sugar? That girl with the ultra-high voice who was all sugar and spice and girly and forever young?

I worked with a guy who was dating her at the time, and he always regaled us with endless stories of his sloppy, dirty bone-down sessions with her, and she did the voice during it.

# ? Jun 11, 2015 08:01

WaffleLove: Aug 16, 2007

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

I was a bit old at the time for the YTV PJ's, but anyone remember Sugar? That girl with the ultra-high voice who was all sugar and spice and girly and forever young?

I worked with a guy who was dating her at the time, and he always regaled us with endless stories of his sloppy, dirty bone-down sessions with her, and she did the voice during it.

You friend the luckiest dude in the world (Canada/Ontario).

# ? Jun 11, 2015 15:31

Stanley Pain: Jun 16, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

I worked with a guy who was dating her at the time, and he always regaled us with endless stories of his sloppy, dirty bone-down sessions with her, and she did the voice during it.

Having sex with an Anime :thumbsup:

# ? Jun 11, 2015 17:54

EoRaptor: Sep 13, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

I was a bit old at the time for the YTV PJ's, but anyone remember Sugar? That girl with the ultra-high voice who was all sugar and spice and girly and forever young?

I worked with a guy who was dating her at the time, and he always regaled us with endless stories of his sloppy, dirty bone-down sessions with her, and she did the voice during it.

Probably true. When she was a guest at AN, she spent her nights in the 24 hour hentai room. Often with other guests...

# ? Jun 11, 2015 18:17

Kenny Logins: Jan 11, 2011; EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

I was a bit old at the time for the YTV PJ's, but anyone remember Sugar? That girl with the ultra-high voice who was all sugar and spice and girly and forever young?

I worked with a guy who was dating her at the time, and he always regaled us with endless stories of his sloppy, dirty bone-down sessions with her, and she did the voice during it.

A PJ in the streets, a squeaker in the sheets.

Given your friend's regaling, and the fact that her last name is Beard, maybe he was trying to tell you something.

# ? Jun 11, 2015 18:19

WaffleLove: Aug 16, 2007

EoRaptor posted:

Probably true. When she was a guest at AN, she spent her nights in the 24 hour hentai room. Often with other guests...

She sounds like my cup of tea

# ? Jun 11, 2015 19:18

JohnnyCanuck: May 28, 2004; Strong And/Or Free

Continuum is awesome.

# ? Jun 12, 2015 15:15

bigmandan: Sep 11, 2001; lol internet; College Slice

So I was talking with my boss today and it seems the CRTC is polling all the ISPs for their subscriber stats to determine what constitutes basic service. Right now it's considered just dialtone services but it seems the intent is to add broadband.

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2015/2015-134.htm

# ? Jun 25, 2015 15:09

unknown: Nov 16, 2002; Ain't got no stinking title yet!

And Bell Canada officially announces their Gigabit Fibe/FTTH offering is starting roll out in the fall.

http://www.stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2015/06/25/bell-gigabit-fibe-bringing-the-fastest-internet-to-toronto-residents-with-a

quote:

Bell Gigabit Fibe bringing the fastest Internet to Toronto residents with a billion-dollar+ network investment, creation of 2,400 direct jobs

The new Gigabit Fibe service from Bell will deliver the fastest Internet speeds available

Gigabit Fibe to be rolled out to 1.1 million Toronto homes and businesses; 50,000 premises will have access this summer
Bell investing $1.14 billion in Canada's biggest gigabit infrastructure project
Close cooperation with Toronto Hydro increases project speed and efficiency
Bell contributing Gigabit Fibe service to United Way Toronto's Community Hubs initiative
Other cities getting Gigabit Fibe service as soon as this summer; fibre infrastructure expansion ongoing in Ontario, Qu�bec and Atlantic Canada

TORONTO, June 25, 2015 /CNW Telbec/ - Bell Canada today announced it will deliver gigabit-per-second Internet speeds to homes and businesses across the City of Toronto with the new Gigabit Fibe service. Coupled with Bell's single largest infrastructure expansion project, creating approximately 2,400 direct jobs and significant economic and innovation benefits, Gigabit Fibe will bring North America's fastest Internet speeds to more than a million Toronto premises � starting with approximately 50,000 homes and businesses that will have first access this summer.

"Bell Canada has served Toronto since 1880, and we're proud to continue our legacy of communications leadership by bringing the fastest Internet speeds to consumers and businesses across Canada's largest city. Gigabit Fibe is a revolutionary broadband communications service that puts Toronto out front as a world-class Smart City," said George Cope, President and Chief Executive Officer of Bell Canada and BCE Inc. "Network leadership has been the bedrock of Bell's rapid transformation in recent years. Our existing high-speed fibre network is already driving fast Fibe TV and broadband Internet growth, and Canada's largest 4G LTE wireless network is supporting tremendous increases in smartphones and mobile data usage. Gigabit Fibe is key to accelerating Bell's leadership in home and business Internet services, and to supporting widespread access, innovation and economic benefits for Canadians into the future."

"As we plan for the future, we need to invest in our city and put in place the infrastructure required to keep Toronto competitive," said Mayor John Tory. "The rollout of Gigabit Fibe is a testament to Bell's commitment to investing in Toronto. This is Canada's largest gigabit Internet infrastructure project, creating 2,400 jobs for our city. I'd like to thank Bell Canada for investing in Toronto and delivering services that meet the needs of today and the future."

Part of Bell's plan to invest $20 billion in its broadband fibre and wireless networks across Canada by the end of 2020, Gigabit Fibe will ultimately be available to 1.1 million homes and businesses across the city. Bell will launch Gigabit Fibe in other cities in Ontario, Qu�bec and the Atlantic provinces as soon as this summer in some locations.

As with all other gigabit services, like the Google Fiber project in some US cities, service will initially be available at a maximum 940 Megabits per second and rise to a full 1000 Megabits per second or faster in 2016 as modem equipment suppliers catch up to gigabit speeds. To learn more about Gigabit Fibe, please visit Bell.ca/Fibe.

"Bell's existing fibre network already delivers both the best television experience anywhere with Fibe TV and fast broadband Internet. With Gigabit Fibe, we're boosting Internet speeds to blazing fast levels that open up incredible new online opportunities for consumers and business users alike," said Rizwan Jamal, President of Bell Residential Services. "Consumers can share and access the great content they want faster than ever before -- with Gigabit Fibe, you can download 100 photos or songs in 3 seconds, an entire HD movie in 7 seconds, or the whole 14 GB of Orphan Black in HD � shot right here in Toronto � in less than 2 minutes. Small businesses and major enterprises, technology innovators, manufacturers, resource companies, governments, healthcare providers, educators and utilities, all will have incredible new opportunities to share ideas and opportunities, and take full advantage of next-generation cloud data solutions such as Bell's national network of data hosting centres, including 3 state-of-the-art facilities in the City of Toronto."

A public partnership without public funding
Fully funded by Bell, Gigabit Fibe in Toronto is supported by the company's single largest infrastructure buildout. Bell's long-term agreements with Toronto Hydro to share utility poles across the city are accelerating the Gigabit Fibe project's efficiency and speeding up deployment. When the project is complete, Bell teams will have upgraded 27 Bell Central Office facilities across the city and installed over 9,000 kilometres of new fibre, both underground via more than 10,000 manholes and on approximately 80,000 Bell and Toronto Hydro poles around the city. Approximately 70% of the network will be aerial and 30% underground.

"Bell stays ahead of the game in communications by investing the capital and planning required, building the best technology teams and working with great partners, like the City of Toronto and Toronto Hydro in the Gigabit Fibe project," said Stephen Howe, Bell's Chief Technology Officer. "Our engineers, technicians and field crews are energized about this incredible undertaking and we're working cooperatively with our partners, suppliers and contractors, residents and businesses to make Toronto North America's Gigabit leader as quickly and efficiently as possible."

Bell is building Gigabit Fibe on a neighbourhood-by-neighbourhood basis and will advise residents in advance if Bell crews may need to access their property. Torontonians can visit Bell.ca/Toronto for updates and Gigabit Fibe availability. Bell will have a dedicated customer service process for Gigabit Fibe and work with Toronto's 3-1-1 information service to answer any questions about the infrastructure project.

Bell suppliers and contractors working on the Gigabit Fibe buildout in Toronto include Aecon, AGIR, Alcatel-Lucent, Asplundh, Corning, Davey Tree, Distinct Tech, Effigis, Expertech, Huawei, Infrastructel, MMM, Somerville, Sentrex, Telecon Group, Teranet and TRJ Telecom.

Bell's industry-leading capital investments in Canada's newest broadband networks have a significant positive economic effect, enabling businesses to better innovate, compete and create high value jobs with the fastest Internet access. Including 2,400 direct jobs created in Toronto, Bell estimates Gigabit Fibe Toronto will create more than 8,000 direct and indirect jobs in Ontario and $2.5 billion in economic activity over the next 2 years.

... more at URL ...

# ? Jun 25, 2015 15:56

Mr. Apollo: Nov 8, 2000

My parents neighbourhood had FTTH installed by Bell last summer. The can get 250/250 with unlimited bandwidth for $95 a month.

# ? Jun 25, 2015 16:09

bigmandan: Sep 11, 2001; lol internet; College Slice

I hate and love the "Fib" brand. I hate it because it includes non FTTH services and it's really frustrating for consumers. I like it because those frustrated customers come to us instead.

Anyways, I wonder how they will be deploying this. If it's GPON, an endpoint could technically get gigabit on it, but it is a shared circuit (16, 32 or 64 split). It really depends on the optics though.

# ? Jun 25, 2015 16:19

EngineerJoe: Aug 8, 2004; -=whore=-

What's the quote for that? Knowing bell it's probably 40gigs.

# ? Jun 25, 2015 19:36

Siochain: May 24, 2005; "can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."

EngineerJoe posted:

What's the quote for that? Knowing bell it's probably 40gigs.

10 gigabytes!

That's over one million email messages!

# ? Jun 25, 2015 19:53

The Gunslinger: Jul 24, 2004; Do not forget the face of your father.; Fun Shoe

I don't even care about speed beyond like 30Mbps, I just want decent usage packages.

# ? Jun 25, 2015 19:57

Mr. Apollo: Nov 8, 2000

EngineerJoe posted:

What's the quote for that? Knowing bell it's probably 40gigs.

if you mean me, the $95/month quote was for unlimited bandwidth at 250/250.

# ? Jun 25, 2015 20:10

Chris Knight: Jun 5, 2002; me @ ur posts; Fun Shoe

Mr. Apollo posted:

if you mean me, the $95/month quote was for unlimited bandwidth at 250/250.

Yeah, that would do nicely. *crosses fingers*

# ? Jun 26, 2015 01:14

Blue On Blue: Nov 14, 2012

Well since its free for 6 months, I ended up with Rogers FTTH

Advertised as 250/20, I'm usually averaging closer to 330/20 ... so not bad!

Not sure why the upstream is capped so low when it's obviously capable of much much more

I guess to prevent evil file sharing :spooky:

# ? Jun 26, 2015 05:56

unknown: Nov 16, 2002; Ain't got no stinking title yet!

bigmandan posted:

Anyways, I wonder how they will be deploying this. If it's GPON, an endpoint could technically get gigabit on it, but it is a shared circuit (16, 32 or 64 split). It really depends on the optics though.

Since they claim a 940mbps limit, that basically means it's EPON (due to it's like 30% overhead on 1.25gbps).

# ? Jun 26, 2015 20:17

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Here's to hoping that MTS rolls out fibre to all Winnipeg neighbours before my household loses its Shaw employee discount next year!

Is Bell horribly sick or something? Those fibre plans are actually decent.

# ? Jun 26, 2015 20:34

John Capslocke: Jun 5, 2007

DariusLikewise posted:

Is Bell horribly sick or something? Those fibre plans are actually decent.

This is what happens when there is proper competition, in the Toronto core there are a handful of small ISP's rolling out FTTP for MDU's for lower than Bell offered its 50Mbps VDSL2.

John Capslocke fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Jun 27, 2015

# ? Jun 26, 2015 23:47

Chris Knight: Jun 5, 2002; me @ ur posts; Fun Shoe

It'd actually be worth it to go back to the mother corp if the speeds are decent and usable.

# ? Jun 28, 2015 05:29

ToxicFrog: Apr 26, 2008

Bell rep came to the house the other day offering "fiber", but it was FTTN, not FTTH...so 50/10 instead of my current 25/10, but twice the price and with a 200GB cap.

:fuckoff:

# ? Jun 28, 2015 13:53

Chris Knight: Jun 5, 2002; me @ ur posts; Fun Shoe

Ahahaha.

# ? Jun 28, 2015 19:26

Bloody Hedgehog: Dec 12, 2003; 💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

I'm right at the edge of cutting my cable, and I can just imagine the bullshit that is going to flow from the retention reps mouth.

It's gonna be great!

# ? Jun 28, 2015 23:54

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

See how far you can lead him/her on until you break their Flavor-Aid poisoned heart.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 01:10

The Dark One: Aug 19, 2005; I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!

Had a scare yesterday when my internet died exactly at 5:00pm. I figured it was for sure something on their end with the timing, but the tech eventually found that the people renovating the unit below me had cut my line while trying to reroute their own. Score one for Rogers, I guess?

# ? Jun 29, 2015 02:54

Rukus: Mar 13, 2007; Hmph.

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

I'm right at the edge of cutting my cable, and I can just imagine the bullshit that is going to flow from the retention reps mouth.

It's gonna be great!

Oh yeah, it's especially great when they call you every few days trying to get you back. We switched off Bell POTS ($50 a month for a single number and voicemail) to VOIP (averaging $7 a month for all the features) and Bell hounded us for weeks. Blacklisted all the numbers their retentions used and they only recently stopped sending us flyers with terrible package deals.

Hoping the TPIAs get access to that sweet fiber they're rolling out, though. 250/250 unlimited at a fixed rate is actually a step in the right direction for them.

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 03:33

Bloody Hedgehog: Dec 12, 2003; 💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

No too worried about harassing phone calls. My phone doesn't even ring if the number isn't in my contact list. And poo poo mail goes in the recycling box right next to mailbox.

# ? Jun 29, 2015 03:31

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