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mayodreams
Jul 4, 2003


Hello darkness,
my old friend

KillHour posted:

Boy, I sure am glad I Googled "Javascript remove leading 0" at work and clicked on the "videos" tab.

:siren:Seriously, don't do that at work.:siren:

You should totally do it at home, though.

:staredog: :staredog: :staredog:

You learn something new every day!

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Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Turns out I've been removing leading zeros wrong all this time.

Danith
May 20, 2006
I've lurked here for years
I need a new job. I like the place I work but since I've started the most I've gotten is a 1-3% raise every year, no bonuses, make less then 50k/year. Any attempts at more training is met with silence and they keep slimming down IT.

I started 10 years ago as a contractor to help out on the helpdesk, did that for 2 years then was hired full time to help the ops team (monitoring the production environment), and then became one of the 2 schedulers for the various things we run (computer programs not people schedulers). Then put back on helpdesk part of the day to help them out, and then promoted to the AIX admin when they got rid of the guy.
The scheduling program doesn't seem to be one of the really popular ones (OpCon Enterprise manager) so it's hard to find places looking for experience with that. I don't like doing helpdesk duties so that's out.

I feel like I can't use the AIX position on my resume either because even though we have one, it just kinda sits there now and runs our oracle database. No one really touches it. It will be a fun experience if it ever goes down though.

So scary looking into getting a new job when you've been at one for so long but it's looking like if I ever want to learn more and get paid more I'll have to move on.

Just sad and depressed over my job which is why I am posting this

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

thebigcow posted:

Have you tested having that many people making VoIP calls over WiFi at the same time?

Nope, but I'm about to!

Somehow I do have some faith in our Ruckus Wifi, my last company I went with Ubiquiti and those things were an incredible hassle and generally huge pieces of poo poo. Ruckus APs with two Zone Directors in high availability has been awesome and their support is great too.

lampey
Mar 27, 2012

Danith posted:


I feel like I can't use the AIX position on my resume either because even though we have one, it just kinda sits there now and runs our oracle database. No one really touches it. It will be a fun experience if it ever goes down though.

You absolutely can use this on your resume. I would look at companies you want to work at and positions you want to do and then try to get certifications or work on projects at your current position that relate. Have you updated your resume or talked to any recruiters recently?

Vintimus Prime
Apr 24, 2008

DERRRRRPPP what are picture threads for????

A week into my new job. Getting into the groove and digging it a lot.

Danith
May 20, 2006
I've lurked here for years

lampey posted:

You absolutely can use this on your resume. I would look at companies you want to work at and positions you want to do and then try to get certifications or work on projects at your current position that relate. Have you updated your resume or talked to any recruiters recently?

I've updated my resume a bit over the last year, and did talk to a recruiter like 2 years ago (Robert Haft) but they kept sending me temp gigs and keep emailing me asking if I know any SQL devs or .NET programmers at my current job looking for a new job. Been thinking about asking about projects to work on but past experience is holding me back. It always seems to be a bunch of crappy busy work that the windows admins don't want to do.

Also been tossing around getting certs but they can cost a bunch and work wouldn't pay for any of it and I've been having issues with studying (nothing seems to stick anymore).

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.

Danith posted:

I've updated my resume a bit over the last year, and did talk to a recruiter like 2 years ago (Robert Haft) but they kept sending me temp gigs and keep emailing me asking if I know any SQL devs or .NET programmers at my current job looking for a new job. Been thinking about asking about projects to work on but past experience is holding me back. It always seems to be a bunch of crappy busy work that the windows admins don't want to do.

Also been tossing around getting certs but they can cost a bunch and work wouldn't pay for any of it and I've been having issues with studying (nothing seems to stick anymore).

Just stay the hell away from Robert Half - they are some of the sleaziest recruiters in the business, and 9 times out of 10 they'll only talk to you so they can get the name and number of your boss so they can pitch your replacement at 1/2 your salary.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go

KillHour posted:

Boy, I sure am glad I Googled "Javascript remove leading 0" at work and clicked on the "videos" tab.

:siren:Seriously, don't do that at work.:siren:

You should totally do it at home, though.
Literally everything is pornography, holy poo poo.

Mammalian
Nov 9, 2011

Not just any Jesus Mammalian Jesus

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

Literally everything is pornography, holy poo poo.

I was curious enough to put my phone brightness to 0 and check it at my desk... I... I regret it.

On another note - I've been working in my current position for 16 months, but my job role has been changing and has never really been totally nailed down. Right now I'm a Trainee Developer and also a Support Engineer (helping run jira with a colleague), we have big clients and I'm sure my work here is valuable, but all I care about is coding. I wanted this to be an opportunity for me to break into the world of coding... So I'm not really sure why I accepted a position as a Webcast Engineer in the first place, but there you go.

Anyway, I sit here building projects and learning how to code preparing for in the next few months when I should be moving into more serious dev stuff - working on modules of our Live Presentation System.

I'm getting itchy feet though, I'm bored, I don't have many responsibilities, and I KNOW the reason I kept getting given new roles was because they kept realising I could do most things proficiently. I've seriously done everything you can think of here, not just small menial things either.

So do I wait to get solid dev experience or switch asap? I know it's difficult to find entry-level coding jobs and that's why I wanted to get some experience first. We do mainly PHP, MySQL, JS/jQuery here.

CloFan
Nov 6, 2004

Mammalian posted:

I was curious enough to put my phone brightness to 0 and check it at my desk... I... I regret it.

Googled it on the work PC and then forwarded it to coworkers under the guise of asking for help :getin:

Mammalian
Nov 9, 2011

Not just any Jesus Mammalian Jesus

CloFan posted:

Googled it on the work PC and then forwarded it to coworkers under the guise of asking for help :getin:

I think it's been fixed now - didn't show up when I just checked it...again...for some reason.. :dings:

Sefal
Nov 8, 2011
Fun Shoe
:yotj: A job offer came in.

24000 euro a year. commute is payed for. College and certs will be paid for. Courses for my certs will be payed for
I'm going to take it. and I'll be working where i spent my internship for the last 5 months.
it's a junior system administrator job

My 1st real job!

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.
Received confirmation that June 21st is my last day on the Messaging team, and sometime during the week (to be worked out with my new team lead) I will move into the vacated Virtualization Admin position. No more 12-hour weekend shifts, and no more switching from 1st shift to 3rd shift every 3 months. It's like Christmas has come early. I will finally be able to sit back and relax and watch college football live on the weekend, or go out with my friends and not have to worry about scheduling it.

Now I just have to worry about the position ending in either 5/14/26 months from now, but that's for another day.

Funnily enough (which wasn't funny at 9am this morning when I was just getting to sleep) a recruiter called about a virtualization position. I heard her out, but a 6 month contract with the slight possibility they may hire me as a FTE immediately soured that conversation. And trying to grab my bosses names and numbers didn't go over well. So when she asked about my salary I gave it to her, and she goes "Well that's in line with the position I have," to which I replied "Oh, you misunderstood me - that's my current pay. To get me to leave I'd need $80k."

She was quiet for a few seconds. "That's a bit high, but it might be possible."

Just to finally kill her off though I said, "Oh, that's not per year - that's just for the 6 month contract. Since it isn't a FTE gig, I have to make enough money to cover me for when I have to start looking for another job."

She hung up pretty quickly after that, and strangely enough I haven't seen the position requisition form in my email yet.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Sefal posted:

:yotj: A job offer came in.

24000 euro a year. commute is payed for. College and certs will be paid for. Courses for my certs will be payed for
I'm going to take it. and I'll be working where i spent my internship for the last 5 months.
it's a junior system administrator job

My 1st real job!

My brain refused to read 24000 and instead inserted 240000. Then I read it was your first "real" job. I'm too jaded, I think.

orange sky
May 7, 2007

KillHour posted:

My brain refused to read 24000 and instead inserted 240000. Then I read it was your first "real" job. I'm too jaded, I think.

US salaries are much bigger than Europe salaries, generally. When I hear about helpdesk people making 30-40k in the US I go crazy.

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


orange sky posted:

When I hear about helpdesk people making 30-40k in the US I go crazy.

Same, although that's because in the Bay Area 30-40k is so low that you can barely live here on that.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Heartache is powerful, but democracy is *subtle*.

orange sky posted:

US salaries are much bigger than Europe salaries, generally. When I hear about helpdesk people making 30-40k in the US I go crazy.

I was about to post that 24,000 euro is roughly equivalent to 40,000 USD but then I remembered that Greece existed.

In other words, now's the time to book a European vacation.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
Another blog post because I'm lonely and can't talk to any of my friends about this.

So I tried to do something productive infrastructure wise. Our garbage network randomly has a 172.16.25.x subnet that is handled by a cisco 3750 (that's passworded like every other device in this place with the password unknown) that contains...I also don't know. I know for sure it contained our internal lotus notes server and it's console. Preliminary solarwinds scans found a bunch of garbage in it without host names and nobody knows anything about them. I wanted to change our mail servers from this strange subnet into our primary 129.129.30.x network because our new backup system (remember we didn't have one) couldn't reach the mail servers.

I wrote up what in my opinion was actually a really solid plan. I called all the shots on what to do and was explaining the situation out loud to myself and my boss, who was my assistant for this.

Turns out our DNS server had a hardcoded record that referred LN1 (internal mail server) to it's 172. IP.

My plan was to change the network adapters to regular 129.129.30.x addresses, create dhcp reservations for them so phones don't cause problem the way they have with our other servers :downs:. Update the hardcoded DNS A record that referred LN1 to 172.16.25.6
Update the hardcoded DNS A record that referred LN1 to 172.16.25.6
Around this point I determined that it was this random switch doing the routing. I plugged all the servers into another switch that I knew to not be routing. At some point in the future when we can schedule more downtime I will password recover the 3750.
At this point after a bunch of rebooting and changing other hardcoded values in the LN1 server and it's console I got it to work internally!


Then for LN2 (the external mail server) I tried to go through a similar process (completely blind) but I realized something awful, it had two NICs, one that was WAN and one that was internal. I just assumed that the internal nic would be on the same 172.16.25.x network. It was on 172.16.26.x (??????) and connected off into an asa and a firewall in series that I never even considered. When I saw this I immediately declared the project a failure and reverted all changes and eventually had it fully functional again.


I ended up being there for 2 hours past my usual quitting time because of all the unexpected complications and then the ultimate reverting of everything. Apparently summer students don't get overtime. So instead I get to settle for going home tomorrow 2 hours early. I have a headache from it all


:(

Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.

Sefal posted:

:yotj: A job offer came in.

24000 euro a year. commute is payed for. College and certs will be paid for. Courses for my certs will be payed for
I'm going to take it. and I'll be working where i spent my internship for the last 5 months.
it's a junior system administrator job

My 1st real job!

How much is this in actual money? :911:

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Methanar posted:

Another blog post because I'm lonely and can't talk to any of my friends about this.

So I tried to do something productive infrastructure wise. Our garbage network randomly has a 172.16.25.x subnet that is handled by a cisco 3750 (that's passworded like every other device in this place with the password unknown) that contains...I also don't know. I know for sure it contained our internal lotus notes server and it's console. Preliminary solarwinds scans found a bunch of garbage in it without host names and nobody knows anything about them. I wanted to change our mail servers from this strange subnet into our primary 129.129.30.x network because our new backup system (remember we didn't have one) couldn't reach the mail servers.

I wrote up what in my opinion was actually a really solid plan. I called all the shots on what to do and was explaining the situation out loud to myself and my boss, who was my assistant for this.

Turns out our DNS server had a hardcoded record that referred LN1 (internal mail server) to it's 172. IP.

My plan was to change the network adapters to regular 129.129.30.x addresses, create dhcp reservations for them so phones don't cause problem the way they have with our other servers :downs:. Update the hardcoded DNS A record that referred LN1 to 172.16.25.6
Update the hardcoded DNS A record that referred LN1 to 172.16.25.6
Around this point I determined that it was this random switch doing the routing. I plugged all the servers into another switch that I knew to not be routing. At some point in the future when we can schedule more downtime I will password recover the 3750.
At this point after a bunch of rebooting and changing other hardcoded values in the LN1 server and it's console I got it to work internally!


Then for LN2 (the external mail server) I tried to go through a similar process (completely blind) but I realized something awful, it had two NICs, one that was WAN and one that was internal. I just assumed that the internal nic would be on the same 172.16.25.x network. It was on 172.16.26.x (??????) and connected off into an asa and a firewall in series that I never even considered. When I saw this I immediately declared the project a failure and reverted all changes and eventually had it fully functional again.


I ended up being there for 2 hours past my usual quitting time because of all the unexpected complications and then the ultimate reverting of everything. Apparently summer students don't get overtime. So instead I get to settle for going home tomorrow 2 hours early. I have a headache from it all


:(

Document and diagram. Don't do anything until you have everything documented and diagrammed. Otherwise you're just going to be bashing your head into the wall.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
I really wanted to do that but the reason I didn't know that the 3750 was even routing until I started unplugging things was because every single device in my building is passworded and the passwords were lost years and years ago.

I can't recover the passwords without taking taking everything connected to the device offline for a bit.


Solarwind's network mapper is fantastic. Until you have network devices that are so old, decrepit or misconfigured that they won't respond to snmp.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Methanar posted:

I really wanted to do that but the reason I didn't know that the 3750 was even routing until I started unplugging things was because every single device in my building is passworded and the passwords were lost years and years ago.

I can't recover the passwords without taking taking everything connected to the device offline for a bit.


Solarwind's network mapper is fantastic. Until you have network devices that are so old, decrepit or misconfigured that they won't respond to snmp.

I'm assuming you tried the vendor defaults for all of them?

You may be out of luck if you want to keep the current configurations. For a lot of devices the only recovery method available is to reset to factory default settings. If you do end up going down that route, just be aware once you start there's no turning back.

Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Jun 12, 2015

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
Former client was shot dead. He really had it coming.

Llab
Dec 28, 2011

PEPSI FOR VG BABE
I started at my new job a couple of weeks ago, and I've started some of the beginner level online training. I think it's a wee bit out of date, though

"A PC is defined as a File Server by running a server operating system, e.g. Microsoft Windows XP Professional or Novell Netware 6.5."

I'll grant you that I have already seen people running XP at one of the sites I've gone to, but I've never even heard of Netware.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

go3 posted:

Former client was shot dead. He really had it coming.

:yikes:

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Llab posted:

I've never even heard of Netware.

:negative:

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

flosofl posted:

I'm assuming you tried the vendor defaults for all of them?

You may be out of luck if you want to keep the current configurations. For a lot of devices the only recovery method available is to reset to factory default settings. If you do end up going down that route, just be aware once you start there's no turning back.

Yeah. I know for the 3750 in particular I could recover the password and keep the configurations intact if I had like 15 minutes with it being off the network.

Everything else I have no idea. They're old, old HP switches that I know nothing about and seem to only really be configurable from a web interface. Given how old most of core switches are they may very well have no real configuration possible anyway.

At one point I found a reasonably modern HP switch buried in the server room. When I plugged it in I very quickly noticed it was assigned the IP of our default gateway and panic unplugged it. I guess it means that at some point fixing the network was at least attempted.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Methanar posted:

Yeah. I know for the 3750 in particular I could recover the password and keep the configurations intact if I had like 15 minutes with it being off the network.

Everything else I have no idea. They're old, old HP switches that I know nothing about and seem to only really be configurable from a web interface. Given how old most of core switches are they may very well have no real configuration possible anyway.

At one point I found a reasonably modern HP switch buried in the server room. When I plugged it in I very quickly noticed it was assigned the IP of our default gateway and panic unplugged it. I guess it means that at some point fixing the network was at least attempted.



Dear lord , the v1910 - the Moriarity to my Holmes. It's modern(ish), but it's not part of the ProCurve line. It was originally a 3Com enterprise switch that HP folded into it's portfolio.

There is a CLI for it, but it's buried behind a super-secret engineering password. Otherwise all you can do at the console level is a menu-driven initial config. It's fairly feature rich, but the only supported UI is a craptastic web UI.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
I've never properly appreciated how much I love cisco's cli.

I like it even more than bash. Networking device UIs suck rear end.

hihifellow
Jun 17, 2005

seriously where the fuck did this genre come from

On Monday I migrate the last of the data off our Novell file servers and then I can kill the client and nobody will have to deal with having two passwords just to log in to a loving desktop. I cannot wait.

mayodreams
Jul 4, 2003


Hello darkness,
my old friend
^^ Our file server migrations are about done and the Windows 8.1 roll out is starting soon. So ready to get rid of Novell/XP.

Llab posted:

I've never even heard of Netware.

Either had I until I started this job. RUN.

mayodreams fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Jun 12, 2015

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003
I've a SBS 2003 server I'm decommissioning next week.

I'd post that in the Enterprise Windows megathread but I don't want to traumatize too many people.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


Llab posted:

I started at my new job a couple of weeks ago, and I've started some of the beginner level online training. I think it's a wee bit out of date, though

"A PC is defined as a File Server by running a server operating system, e.g. Microsoft Windows XP Professional or Novell Netware 6.5."

I'll grant you that I have already seen people running XP at one of the sites I've gone to, but I've never even heard of Netware.

My degree in 2000 had a mandatory Netware class attached to it :negative:

cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot

Llab posted:

I've never even heard of Netware.

oh, to be young

rafikki
Mar 8, 2008

I see what you did there. (It's pretty easy, since ducks have a field of vision spanning 340 degrees.)

~SMcD


Methanar posted:

I've never properly appreciated how much I love cisco's cli.

I like it even more than bash. Networking device UIs suck rear end.

In my current job, on a daily basis I regularly switch from ASAs to Juniper firewalls to Linux UTMs, with the occasional Fortigate device thrown in for good measure. I haven't really decided which I like best. I think troubleshooting on a linux box is easiest for me, while I tend to like messing with policies on a Juniper. Packet tracer on ASAs is just the best thing ever, though.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Heartache is powerful, but democracy is *subtle*.

rafikki posted:

Packet tracer on ASAs is just the best thing ever, though.

I agree with the exception that it doesn't work well for troubleshooting site to site VPNs.

Palo Alto best firewall.

rafikki
Mar 8, 2008

I see what you did there. (It's pretty easy, since ducks have a field of vision spanning 340 degrees.)

~SMcD


psydude posted:

I agree with the exception that it doesn't work well for troubleshooting site to site VPNs.

Palo Alto best firewall.

Yeah, I've noticed that, too. Glad it wasn't just me misusing it somehow.

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

rafikki posted:

In my current job, on a daily basis I regularly switch from ASAs to Juniper firewalls to Linux UTMs, with the occasional Fortigate device thrown in for good measure. I haven't really decided which I like best. I think troubleshooting on a linux box is easiest for me, while I tend to like messing with policies on a Juniper. Packet tracer on ASAs is just the best thing ever, though.

Speaking of Junipers and Fortigates, we have an overseas office with outsourced IT, and I'm like "Hey guys I have some of these Peplink routers, they're really good you should let me send you one to combine the multiple WANs you have", and the IT people reply with "No way, the Juniper router is the point of support demarcation with the ISP and they'll refuse to support anything if we put a Peplink between those, also we have Fortigates so you have to use those to load balance the WANs".

I mean, researching it I see that the Fortigates do have a robust WAN aggregation thing, but Peplink sort of has a plug-and-play site-to-site "Speedfusion" VPN where you can have one ISP go down and both sites and it'll still keep even VoIP calls up because it routes at the packet level. I'd like to enable that kind of thing to give them direct access to more of our resources like the SIP stuff I'm building and maybe some peer-to-peer video conferencing.

I'm debating whether I should hear these guys out or just put my boot up their asses for trying to pretend like it would be that much of a hassle to slot the Peplink in for me.

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Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





If they "rent" the Juniper firewalls from the ISP and they are the point of demarc, that would mean the ISPs are responsible for them. You can't just swap them out if you want the ISP to keep supporting the firewall side of things.

Also, what the gently caress is a Peplink router? I'm not a big-time networking dude but I have never heard of them before.
[Edit: Those look like gigantic pieces of poo poo and I'd tell you to get lost too.]

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