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Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

Keiya posted:

And then we'll rickroll Goatse them and they'll just stare at us like we're mad and we'll just nod and say that's what it was like.

FTFY

(In a way Goatse, Tubgirl, LemonParty... made more sense though. "I tricked you into looking at something you wouldn't want to" is easier to explain than "Here's the music video for a decent song you weren't expecting")

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Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013



Cat Hatter posted:

FTFY

(In a way Goatse, Tubgirl, LemonParty... made more sense though. "I tricked you into looking at something you wouldn't want to" is easier to explain than "Here's the music video for a decent song you weren't expecting")

That's one of the most :3: things about Rickrolling to me. "OHo, you thought it'd be something you wanted, but it's harmless, decent song hahaaaaaa gotcha!", it's 100% benevolent in that sense, no sense of malice or anything 'dangerous' like that. Not that people have died by seeing Goatse or whatever, but I wouldn't want to explain to a boss why it appeared in my history, for example.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

WebDog posted:

The cost of buying a reader is $3,695.00. And you know it's bad when the National Sound and Film Archive doesn't have one.

:raise:

There's a Sony PDW-1500 on eBay for $85. Where the hell are you looking?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Aristophanes posted:

At my work we sell receipt-based Xbox Live codes that are generated from some dial-up thing. It takes about 2 mins to print off a code, and heaven forbid if somebody tries to ring you or you accidentally use it while a coworker is on the phone. Just the most godawful screeching. Then it causes the code generation to fail and you have to do it all again anyway.

Plus, while processing trades, you can't use the mouse. If you do, it crashes both register computers and the POS system. Everything has to be rebooted and the tills reopened, a process that takes around 10 minutes. Hope the store isn't busy! :suicide:

Where I used to work was a store kind of like Radio Shack, and they only upgraded from CRTs this year on the POS's

Lowen SoDium posted:

No discussion of Basic is complete without mentioning uNESsential: and NES emulator written in QBASIC.

no$gmb emulator was my choice, the dev site says it was assembler, but I'm sure I remember it as BASIC.
http://problemkaputt.de/gmb.htm

WebDog posted:

Working in media you get a nice dose of things that go obsolete within decades. Today's joy was being told that "hey we shot everything on Professional Disc, for archiving! :v:"
The cost of buying a reader is $3,695.00. And you know it's bad when the National Sound and Film Archive doesn't have one.

I once had the task of digitizing my old production company's archived raw footage tapes, there was a mix of BETA, Video8, Hi8, DV, MiniDV, HD MiniDV, VHS, and even some DVDs and Bluray caddy style carts. Lucky no one had emptied the e-waste room for a few decades so all the decks were there and through SDI or other methods managed to get most. I do really hate timecode breaks though, and like a kettle that doesn't boil when watched, a timecode WILL break when you leave the room for even a minute.

DrBouvenstein posted:

A flash storage medium that costs 2-3x as much as an SD/mSD card, and has so many variants I sure as Hell could never keep up...Pro, Duo, XC...? I'm not even sure which one is the "current" one that you'd go out and buy.

Does anything other than a Vita still use exclusively Memory Sticks? I'm pretty sure most (all?) of their cameras use either SD or an SD/MS combo slot.

I remember gladly paying $500AUD for a 1GB MS Pro Duo back in the early 2000s. I hated money it seems.

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

:stonklol:

And I thought I had it rough last month when a co-worker gave me his raw voice tracks on MiniDisc.

Had a radio station client ask me last week if we sold Minidiscs. I had only just thrown out my old NetMD player last year when I moved house. Coulda sold it to her for a kings ransom.


Yoink!

Edit:
Dammit, doesn't ship to Australia...

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Humphreys posted:

Yoink!

Edit:
Dammit, doesn't ship to Australia...

I'd say contact the seller and ask if they'd enable GSP (ebay's global shipping program wherein seller ships it to their shipping center and they send it overseas) just for the one item, as you're in Australia and in desperate need of a PD reader. a lot of sellers are reasonable and if you talk to them they'll do stuff like that if they're reasonably sure you're not a scammer.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


atomicthumbs posted:

I'd say contact the seller and ask if they'd enable GSP (ebay's global shipping program wherein seller ships it to their shipping center and they send it overseas) just for the one item, as you're in Australia and in desperate need of a PD reader. a lot of sellers are sympathetic and if you talk to them they'll do stuff like that if they're reasonably sure you're not a scammer.
Cheers, I don't really want or need it, but find this gear interesting. Might send the seller a message, but shipping to Aus is painfully slow and expensive from the US.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Humphreys posted:

Cheers, I don't really want or need it, but find this gear interesting. Might send the seller a message, but shipping to Aus is painfully slow and expensive from the US.

media digitization is a hobby/art materials source of mine, but I really don't need to be buying used Professional Disks on ebay when I already have so many video tapes...

:getin:

Nuclear War
Nov 7, 2012

You're a pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty girl

atomicthumbs posted:

I'd say contact the seller and ask if they'd enable GSP (ebay's global shipping program wherein seller ships it to their shipping center and they send it overseas) just for the one item, as you're in Australia and in desperate need of a PD reader. a lot of sellers are reasonable and if you talk to them they'll do stuff like that if they're reasonably sure you're not a scammer.

https://www.myus.com is pretty decent for this poo poo

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

Antifreeze Head posted:

My station's automation software is from a company that went out of business ten years ago. It mostly works, but it does give out from time to time, meaning there is occasionally a stretch of like 40 minutes overnight where we go silent. It will reset at the top of every hour, which I guess is better than waiting for me to get in at 5:30 to reset the system. It would have to wait until then because naturally we don't have a system set up to notify anyone of extended dead air, or even a backup unit that will kick in.

Our radio group's antiquated automation program does the same thing, and I happen to live just a three-minute jog from the studios. Guess who gets to go put us back on-air in the middle of the night or on the weekend?

If the classic rock station's the one that's gone down, I switch to manual and play "The Ladder" by Yes--it's 9:30 long, and it takes just over nine minutes to shut down and restart their automation system. I've been using that song as a timer for so long that now whenever "The Ladder" finds its way into actual rotation I get a bunch of texts and emails asking what's wrong :laugh:

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Pham Nuwen posted:

People nostalgic for the 50s are getting thinner on the ground and who the hell listens to AM anymore now that every lovely smartphone charger ruins your reception?

A friend of mine once did session work for Elvis. Looking for the photo from the set I found that he died a couple of weeks ago, so I'm feeling pretty nostalgic for the 50s right now. :(

KERNOD WEL
Oct 10, 2012

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

If the classic rock station's the one that's gone down, I switch to manual and play "The Ladder" by Yes--it's 9:30 long, and it takes just over nine minutes to shut down and restart their automation system. I've been using that song as a timer for so long that now whenever "The Ladder" finds its way into actual rotation I get a bunch of texts and emails asking what's wrong :laugh:

Dunno if its just an urban legend but supposedly that back before radio got computerized and automated, if you heard the full version of Won't Get Fooled Again or Kashmir there's a good chance the DJ was off taking a dump.

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug

KERNOD WEL posted:

Dunno if its just an urban legend but supposedly that back before radio got computerized and automated, if you heard the full version of Won't Get Fooled Again or Kashmir there's a good chance the DJ was off taking a dump.

Not urban legend at all. You really knew something was up if you heard In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, Whipping Post or Alice's Restaurant on any day that wasn't Thanksgiving.

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

Our radio group's antiquated automation program does the same thing, and I happen to live just a three-minute jog from the studios. Guess who gets to go put us back on-air in the middle of the night or on the weekend?

If the classic rock station's the one that's gone down, I switch to manual and play "The Ladder" by Yes--it's 9:30 long, and it takes just over nine minutes to shut down and restart their automation system. I've been using that song as a timer for so long that now whenever "The Ladder" finds its way into actual rotation I get a bunch of texts and emails asking what's wrong :laugh:

We have a few backup CDs we just toss in with IDs and stuff, keeps things going until everything is working again. Assuming someone is in the building to put it on which there may not be since we have only nine hours total of live programming each day. A bit sad really, especially as there is, like someone else said, no training ground in the overnight shifts.

robodex
Jun 6, 2007

They're what's for dinner
I missed the bulk of radio chat but I used to work at a station that played 100% Cancon. Technically it was a college station, but they ran it like an actual radio station would (unlike a lot of college stations, which just sort of let people do whatever.) It was a very interesting format to work in but gently caress finding out if something is actually cancon because most commercial artists don't bother with MAPL listings.

Fun fact: some of the biggest Canadian artists out there don't qualify as Canadian Content, or only part of their catalogue is. Justin Bieber is a big example, as is Celine Dion.

Antifreeze Head posted:

My station's automation software is from a company that went out of business ten years ago. It mostly works, but it does give out from time to time, meaning there is occasionally a stretch of like 40 minutes overnight where we go silent. It will reset at the top of every hour, which I guess is better than waiting for me to get in at 5:30 to reset the system. It would have to wait until then because naturally we don't have a system set up to notify anyone of extended dead air, or even a backup unit that will kick in.

Our resistance to change was driven by finances rather than curmudgeons though. Thankfully we should be upgrading this year to iMediaTouch. I will miss some of the comical things that could happen, like when ELO started playing when I meant to insert the Eli Young Band.

This is crazy far back but we had the same problem once, turns out someone had mis-entered a track in selector as being 51:30 minutes long rather than 5:13. Took me a few days to figure out why I'd come in and the automation was an hour ahead.

I don't work in the radio industry anymore because I wanted a stable career, but I really enjoyed it at the time.

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug

robodex posted:

(unlike a lot of college stations, which just sort of let people do whatever.)

I purposefully avoided getting a show at my college station because it was, as best described by Strong Bad, "utter misery"

For any who were interested: http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail120.html

Do flash cartoons qualify yet as obsolete technology? Or at least Home Star Runner?

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli

robodex posted:

Fun fact: some of the biggest Canadian artists out there don't qualify as Canadian Content, or only part of their catalogue is. Justin Bieber is a big example, as is Celine Dion.

Can you explain why? Is it something to do with the record companies rather than the artists themselves?

Collateral Damage posted:

Not to turn this into a four yorkshiremen derail, but.. In Sweden we had a grand total of two channels when I grew up. TV1 and TV2, both of which were state owned channels and as expected mostly showed a bunch of lovely "entertainment", educational programs and politically colored news. My parents lived pretty close to the Danish border however, so with a bigger antenna we could receive two Danish channels as well. If you wanted more you had to get a satellite dish. Cable TV didn't really exist in Sweden until the late 80s.

It was similar in New Zealand where I'm from. Until 1989 there were two state-owned channels, then there was a third privately-owned channel until 1997 when a fourth one was launched. Now we have a lot more, but I still think it's funny when people in other countries complain about growing up with only six channels or whatever.

We have a cable equivalent (Sky TV), but I've never had that. It's too expensive.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

KERNOD WEL posted:

Dunno if its just an urban legend but supposedly that back before radio got computerized and automated, if you heard the full version of Won't Get Fooled Again or Kashmir there's a good chance the DJ was off taking a dump.

Antifreeze Head posted:

Not urban legend at all.

Yep. When I first started interning at our classic rock station, I asked my supervisor what happened if I had to go take a dump or wanted a smoke or whatever. I'll never forget the grin on his face when he pointed at a laminated sheet of paper taped to the wall: "That's what this list is for!" It was essentially songs_longer_than_ten_minutes.txt.

Also, I'm legitimately concerned that the fire will finally die out before local/regional stations realize that the only way to spark interest in broadcast radio these days is to put living, breathing people back behind the mics :smith:

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

KERNOD WEL posted:

Dunno if its just an urban legend but supposedly that back before radio got computerized and automated, if you heard the full version of Won't Get Fooled Again or Kashmir there's a good chance the DJ was off taking a dump.
As someone who was a DJ years ago, I can add to the comments confirming this poo poo happened. So to speak.

The need for, ah, long-rear end tracks was made greater by the fact that the booth was literally a converted janitor's closet. In a converted livestock barn. So the nearest john was a couple hundred feet away and on another floor. So you had to have a combination of sorta long tracks for when you showed up for your show drunk and suddenly had to take a leak like crazy, and really long tracks for when you needed to take a dump.

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp
Unfortunately, what's best for customers isn't always what's profitable. See also: print journalism.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

Antifreeze Head posted:

I purposefully avoided getting a show at my college station because it was, as best described by Strong Bad, "utter misery"

For any who were interested: http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail120.html

Do flash cartoons qualify yet as obsolete technology? Or at least Home Star Runner?

...they're....still making these? Good lord, I thought they'd quit in the mid 00s.

College radio is horrible to listen to but good for helping you, as a student, figure out if you've chosen correctly. If you spend two semesters behind that mic and haven't found your voice yet and your show is "Dead air, um, dead air," you need to seriously consider changing your major, or, at the very least, your specialization.

PhotoKirk
Jul 2, 2007

insert witty text here

KERNOD WEL posted:

Dunno if its just an urban legend but supposedly that back before radio got computerized and automated, if you heard the full version of Won't Get Fooled Again or Kashmir there's a good chance the DJ was off taking a dump.

Guilty. College radio station, late night shift, no one else at the station. I had a live version of Edgar Winter's Frankenstein that ran about 15 minutes.

Found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n67O8OjJr04

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

...they're....still making these? Good lord, I thought they'd quit in the mid 00s.

College radio is horrible to listen to but good for helping you, as a student, figure out if you've chosen correctly. If you spend two semesters behind that mic and haven't found your voice yet and your show is "Dead air, um, dead air," you need to seriously consider changing your major, or, at the very least, your specialization.

Homestar Runner went on hiatus around '08 but they've been putting out a couple toons a year since like 2013.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

PhotoKirk posted:

Guilty. College radio station, late night shift, no one else at the station. I had a live version of Edgar Winter's Frankenstein that ran about 15 minutes.

Found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n67O8OjJr04
Playing jazz made this easy as hell. Mingus' Orange Was the Color of Her Dress, then Silk Blue is like 15 minutes in any version and there are a bunch of different live recordings. Miles Davis' Bitches Brew is nothing but long-rear end tracks, like Spanish Key at over 17 minutes.

But gently caress if you were playing punk, land of the two minute track. In that case it was all Sister Ray all the time.

robodex
Jun 6, 2007

They're what's for dinner

Antifreeze Head posted:

I purposefully avoided getting a show at my college station because it was, as best described by Strong Bad, "utter misery"

Without getting into too much detail, a lot of college stations are really bad for actually training you to do "real" radio, since they basically involve sitting someone down at a board, giving them a rundown, and saying "have fun." The school I worked at actually ran it like a real radio station, so when you graduated you actually knew what the gently caress you were doing :v:

(It boggles my mind that there are so many college radio programs that don't run their stations this way.)

1000 Brown M and Ms posted:

Can you explain why? Is it something to do with the record companies rather than the artists themselves?

Without getting into too much detail (just on lunch break so don't have a ton of time,) a song has to meet at least 2/4 of the "MAPL" requirements to be considered Cancon:

M: Music has to be written by a Canadian
A: Artist has to be Canadian
P: Production needs to be done in Canada
L: Lyrics need to be written by a Canadian

In the case of the Biebs, the vast majority of his stuff only fulfills the artist requirement since his songs are generally written by Americans and produced in the States. Same with Celine.

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!

SubG posted:

Playing jazz made this easy as hell. Mingus' Orange Was the Color of Her Dress, then Silk Blue is like 15 minutes in any version and there are a bunch of different live recordings. Miles Davis' Bitches Brew is nothing but long-rear end tracks, like Spanish Key at over 17 minutes.

But gently caress if you were playing punk, land of the two minute track. In that case it was all Sister Ray all the time.

Or The Decline :v:

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.
Oh, there were a couple other options. Like Pere Ubu's Sentimental Journey (only a mere 7 minutes), playing which got multiple calls to the station saying something was wrong with the broadcast, or the Residents' The Third Reich and Roll, which got me a call from a guy who just screamed repeatedly into the phone.

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug

robodex posted:

Without getting into too much detail, a lot of college stations are really bad for actually training you to do "real" radio, since they basically involve sitting someone down at a board, giving them a rundown, and saying "have fun." The school I worked at actually ran it like a real radio station, so when you graduated you actually knew what the gently caress you were doing :v:

(It boggles my mind that there are so many college radio programs that don't run their stations this way.)

At mine, we had classes that taught you how to run it like a real station, but the license was actually for a community station, so technically we'd have to give any Joe Blow the chance to sit in and run his own show. Just like cable access TV. Or something... They did away with that class and the station folded a couple months after I graduated and is on-line only now.

The bits that were instructor led were generally fine and about as polished as a group of people with only theoretical instruction in the creation of radio could manage. The rest was exactly: "um.... [dead air] so yeah.... [dead air] here's Weezer.... [song by .38 Special]"

Oddly, both of the stations headquartered at one of the city's universities are much better run even though neither has a program specifically designed to graduate people to work in the media.

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

Also, I'm legitimately concerned that the fire will finally die out before local/regional stations realize that the only way to spark interest in broadcast radio these days is to put living, breathing people back behind the mics :smith:

BUT MORE MUSIC LESS TALK WEEKDAYS!!!

You are right though. Aside from the people that can't access anything else, talk (be it information or entertainment) is why people want to listen to the radio. There will never be a local weather forecast on Spotify and you will never find out what is happening in your city (assuming you don't live in New York, L-A or Chicago, maybe Nashville if you like country) on Sirius X-M.

bigtom
May 7, 2007

Playing the solid gold hits and moving my liquid lips...

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

Our radio group's antiquated automation program does the same thing, and I happen to live just a three-minute jog from the studios. Guess who gets to go put us back on-air in the middle of the night or on the weekend?

If the classic rock station's the one that's gone down, I switch to manual and play "The Ladder" by Yes--it's 9:30 long, and it takes just over nine minutes to shut down and restart their automation system. I've been using that song as a timer for so long that now whenever "The Ladder" finds its way into actual rotation I get a bunch of texts and emails asking what's wrong :laugh:

American Pie gets thrown on whenever I need to work on the automation system (thankfully, not too much anymore since I upgraded all the machines in the place).

And that was only because we found a shop that would do trade - if that hadn't happened,. my main on air machine would be a 2003 PD Dell Optiplex running XP Home.

I love radio - but hate horrible operators...

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Nuclear War posted:

https://www.myus.com is pretty decent for this poo poo

I wonder if there's an equivalent of this that'll ship from Sweden to the US. I need some Volvo parts.

BuddyChrist
Apr 29, 2008

Code Jockey posted:

Speaking of satellite dishes, my friend growing up had one of those enormous international satellite dishes and it was awesome watching all the weird foreign TV it picked up.

I would kill to get one of those now, but I don't have enough property to put it on, if they even still work.

When I was a kid my parents bought one of those large moving satellite dishes (C-band). That thing was great at the time. I grew up on a dead end road that didn't have cable-TV running up it, so all my friends had cable and I was stuck with only local channels before we got satellite. I should mention here that we had some sort of descrambler that I'm sure is a bit underhanded.

The satellite was great because you could find all sorts of odd things or get glimpses behind the scenes. For instance when a channel went to commercial there would just be a blank section for local commercials to be inserted. You could find news feeds too, I remember watching a soundless live feed from somewhere in Central or South America where they were having a hostage crisis and people with high-powered rifles were storming the place.

Also you'd find channels that cable providers didn't carry, I was watching MTV2 when it only played videos and they would break for commercial and only show commercials for MTV because they hadn't sold any air time yet. HBO segmented of into 4 channels about that time (originally just named 1, 2, 3, and 4) and you'd still get a west coast and east coast feed for each one. Don't like what's on now? Change the channel and see what's on in three hours!

After awhile they started scrambling the major channels and codes were needed to get them back. Then they would periodically change the codes so you had to get new ones, and after that it was too much work to maintain. Last time I used the thing it didn't work too well anymore and really probably needed some sort of calibration to find the satellites correctly. I think since then my parents have cut and pulled the cable that connected the dish to our descrambler so now it's just a yard ornament. I was about to head to college anyway so it didn't matter to me. My parents still only get the local channels and have to move an antenna around each time they change a channel to get the picture right.

Also I think my computer monitor may be bigger than the TV they have in their living room. :shrug:

Edit: Not to be creepy or anything, but also you could find some pretty graphic porn channels on there too and pre-internet that was something to covet.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Antifreeze Head posted:

You are right though. Aside from the people that can't access anything else, talk (be it information or entertainment) is why people want to listen to the radio. There will never be a local weather forecast on Spotify and you will never find out what is happening in your city (assuming you don't live in New York, L-A or Chicago, maybe Nashville if you like country) on Sirius X-M.

I dunno, I bet you could do the weather at least... get someone in each market with a half-decent voice to read the local forecast and insert it in between a couple songs. But faking it being possible doesn't mean the real thing is worthless.

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


Keiya posted:

I dunno, I bet you could do the weather at least... get someone in each market with a half-decent voice to read the local forecast and insert it in between a couple songs. But faking it being possible doesn't mean the real thing is worthless.

Sirius XM has a number of regional weather channels that hit most/all of the major cities in the US.

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'

The UK's digital radio deserves a place in this thread. It has been such a disappointment. DAB launched 20 years ago promising more and varied stations, crystal clear reception, car radio which didn't cut out in tunnels and easy tuning! Well, here's the sort of sound quality you can expect from your homogenised commercial shite varied music stations:



That's right, 80kbps MP2. In mono. This is what they want to shut down FM for. Surely everyone has noticed their favourite stations halve their bitrate and switch from stereo to mono?

Pure, a large DAB radio manufacturer posted:

Although a small minority prefer the sound of FM, every poll of digital radio listeners has indicated that the vast majority of listeners are more than happy with digital radio sound quality.

Talk about damning with faint praise.

I don't know if it cuts out in tunnels because in car DAB is still incredibly rare. A couple of years ago car accessory giant Halfords claimed they would stop selling analogue car radios by 2015. Unless they're planning on culling their entire radio section on Dec 31st (they aren't) that is not going to happen. 2015 was also the first date for the supposed FM switch off. Since by 2013 DAB only accounted for 36% of radio listeners, this date was pushed back to the more realistic "dunno, probably not ever".

Aristophanes
Aug 11, 2012

Quickly, bring me a beaker of wine, so that I may wet my mind and say something clever!

1000 Brown M and Ms posted:

Can you explain why? Is it something to do with the record companies rather than the artists themselves?


It was similar in New Zealand where I'm from. Until 1989 there were two state-owned channels, then there was a third privately-owned channel until 1997 when a fourth one was launched. Now we have a lot more, but I still think it's funny when people in other countries complain about growing up with only six channels or whatever.

We have a cable equivalent (Sky TV), but I've never had that. It's too expensive.

Sky is absolutely 100% not worth it. My parents love it though because you can record TV, but I'm sure they would love it just as much if Freeview had a record function and we could do away with Sky. I'm sad they shut down Heartland channel though :(

Cracked_Gear
Nov 4, 2013

can we say Adobe Flash at this point?

I think Flash's last big hurrah was being used for youtube but now youtube has its own built in player. I keep it around for some old flash websites that I rarely visit and each update keeps getting bigger and bigger and it does nothing new that I can see. Its like it used to be young and hip 15 years ago and now its getting older and fatter

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

Horace posted:

The UK's digital radio deserves a place in this thread. It has been such a disappointment. DAB launched 20 years ago promising more and varied stations, crystal clear reception, car radio which didn't cut out in tunnels and easy tuning! Well, here's the sort of sound quality you can expect from your homogenised commercial shite varied music stations:



That's right, 80kbps MP2. In mono. This is what they want to shut down FM for. Surely everyone has noticed their favourite stations halve their bitrate and switch from stereo to mono?


Talk about damning with faint praise.

I don't know if it cuts out in tunnels because in car DAB is still incredibly rare. A couple of years ago car accessory giant Halfords claimed they would stop selling analogue car radios by 2015. Unless they're planning on culling their entire radio section on Dec 31st (they aren't) that is not going to happen. 2015 was also the first date for the supposed FM switch off. Since by 2013 DAB only accounted for 36% of radio listeners, this date was pushed back to the more realistic "dunno, probably not ever".

HD Radio is the US is incredible. Whenever I'm listening to OPB Music with a friend in the car, they freak out when they realize it's the radio. It sounds exactly like a CD. But it's an all-or-nothing kind of thing; I'm too far from the station now and it cuts out (when it cuts, it cuts 100%) too much to enjoy. But the FM+HD simulcast (not available for LITERALLY THE ONLY GOOD MUSIC STATION IN THE AREA) works great as a compromise as long as the station isn't having any synching issues. Big drawback: there's no way on my tuner to browse through all stations including HD. You have to look up on the internet which stations have an HD channel attached to them. Or else press "next -> up" ad infinitum through the whole band.

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli

robodex posted:

Without getting into too much detail (just on lunch break so don't have a ton of time,) a song has to meet at least 2/4 of the "MAPL" requirements to be considered Cancon:

M: Music has to be written by a Canadian
A: Artist has to be Canadian
P: Production needs to be done in Canada
L: Lyrics need to be written by a Canadian

In the case of the Biebs, the vast majority of his stuff only fulfills the artist requirement since his songs are generally written by Americans and produced in the States. Same with Celine.

Makes sense I guess. Thanks for the info.

Aristophanes posted:

Sky is absolutely 100% not worth it. My parents love it though because you can record TV, but I'm sure they would love it just as much if Freeview had a record function and we could do away with Sky. I'm sad they shut down Heartland channel though :(

That's why we never got it, way too expensive for what you get. About the only thing I like Sky for is sports, cos sports on Freeview sucks, but these days there's better options on the internet.

bigtom
May 7, 2007

Playing the solid gold hits and moving my liquid lips...

Mescal posted:

HD Radio is the US is incredible. Whenever I'm listening to OPB Music with a friend in the car, they freak out when they realize it's the radio. It sounds exactly like a CD. But it's an all-or-nothing kind of thing; I'm too far from the station now and it cuts out (when it cuts, it cuts 100%) too much to enjoy. But the FM+HD simulcast (not available for LITERALLY THE ONLY GOOD MUSIC STATION IN THE AREA) works great as a compromise as long as the station isn't having any synching issues. Big drawback: there's no way on my tuner to browse through all stations including HD. You have to look up on the internet which stations have an HD channel attached to them. Or else press "next -> up" ad infinitum through the whole band.

HD Radio works well in areas that aren't the Northeast and don't have lots of mountains - the short spacing issues from DC to Boston really put the FM HD stations at a disadvantage, as well as shadowing in mountain ranges. I was literally looking at the transmitter site for a HD station in Connecticut and the HD-2 kept cutting out in a moving car because they were running the power level at -20 dbc rather than -14.

HD Radio uses a proprietary version of AAC+ called HDC - the bitrate is 96k, and the main channel is a minimum of 64k - you can throw up some extra carriers in MP3 mode to get some more bandwidth for a HD-3 channel, letting the main & HD-2 eek out a bit better sound quality.

I wish that IBOC was better implemented - but it's been 10 years, and I only know other radio engineers who have HD Radios...so I'm ready to call it a failure. But the fact it powers live traffic to certain GPS units helps make it less useless.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

Cracked_Gear posted:

Can we say Adobe Flash at this point?
It's death knell was when Apple refused to support it on ipads and phones and even though Android had a player, it was woefully clunky and there's very poor user accessibility for flash content on a touch screen.

Flash was my bread and butter for a good decade, right from the very start when it began to be used as websites and it was interesting seeing it's rise and fall through the multimedia boom of the 2000's.

My development time was around the 56k days in Australia where painfully inconsistent ADSL rollout meant the idea of loading 500kb of data was a good five minute wait and the idea of having to download a 10mb plugin was at least close to an hour.

So you had to find a way to cleverly load websites in a way that would not break things but keep them going as smooth as possible - like using flash's habit of loading data top layer down and staggering areas of the website so the key info would load and things like images would be streamed in. It was assembling a byzantine jigsaw puzzle at times as content became more dynamic and people wanted their own content management systems.

It's main issue was that it was presentation focused over information focus and this was fine if you wanted some sort of fancy design where bells and whistles were abound, but pretty quickly people got sick of elaborate transitions between pages or the dreaded "boxes within boxes" design trap where your limit of 800x640 made space a painful commodity or it would scale oddly.
And then the common issue of "can we use the back button?", I noticed some websites towards the end started working in javascript calls to try and work around this issue.

And then there was the endless fight with getting it to work smoothly on Apple Macs which always struggled to smoothly run, made even harder with the advent of video content.
I recall running timer scripts to detect how slow a computer was and dynamically switch off the quality settings on things. We had an emac that was used as a testbed.

It's video support was the only thing that kept it up as before that you only had Quicktime which was a massive chore to download and use or RealVideo which was infamous with "buffering" and complete taking over your file associations.

Nowadays it's sort of in an identity crisis as it's been pitched as a mobile development platform or a WebGL animation package. The idea of it being an interface for the web is long gone, in part superseded by stuff like Muse which runs off HTML5.

Given you now just go
code:
<video src="http://v2v.cc/~j/theora_testsuite/320x240.ogg" controls>
  Your browser does not support the <code>video</code> element.
</video>
I really don't miss it.

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

Cracked_Gear posted:

can we say Adobe Flash at this point?

I think Flash's last big hurrah was being used for youtube but now youtube has its own built in player. I keep it around for some old flash websites that I rarely visit and each update keeps getting bigger and bigger and it does nothing new that I can see. Its like it used to be young and hip 15 years ago and now its getting older and fatter

You probably shouldn't. IIRC the newer cryptolocker ransomwares use flash as an attack vector.

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axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

isn't flash still used as middleware for making menus and inteface things in games?

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