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Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

SunAndSpring posted:

I thought it was pretty good. I hope the roleplaying and story will be good, but at the very least it might be a fun game to gently caress around in. Don't like that the protagonist is voiced. Feels like a weird choice and the voice actor is bland.

Mod makers are going to have an even tougher time with dialogue. :( Gonna be like Oblivion when the beggars sound like old men and then suddenly have that strong nordic voice.

Edit: I could have sworn there was a dialogue option with more than 4 choices. Somebody look for it for me, I'll be busying counting money from my Zenimax shares.

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crawlkill
Feb 20, 2014

frajaq posted:

That's because the game looks excellent

all Bethesda games since Oblivion have looked good in previews. we've been burned three times before.

Orv
May 4, 2011

crawlkill posted:

it wouldn't be a big deal if I didn't have to hear the entire internet wailing about how wonderful it was the whole goddamn time. it makes it impossible to ignore.

You can't rape a video game series, hygh.

J-Spot
May 7, 2002

I'm still not sure how I feel about the voiced protagonist, but it will be nice to have the camera switch to your character when speaking. I usually spend a stupid amount of time in the character creator and then spend the rest of the game in first person mode, so I like getting the chance to actually see my character.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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chitoryu12 posted:

A lot of that is actually not dissimilar to how real scratch-built stuff made from scavenging the apocalypse would go. Watch season 2 of The Colony (a post-apocalypse reality TV show) and you'll see how people forced to scavenge an abandoned urban wasteland will build poo poo when pressed.

To be fair this is 200 years after the bombs fell so some semblance of civilization should have returned if they were playing this straight.

(Note: They aren't playing it straight this is a game series where China invaded Alaska and the US annexed Canada and built Optimus Prime)

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

crawlkill posted:

hey, I used the words "low standards" to describe a Fallout 3 fan while the stream was going out, too. object of my scorn thought that was really offensive, not realizing it was the least offensive possible way to describe a fan of Bethesda games.

this is legitimately the only place I've ever found where there are at least some people who understand my loathing for Bethesda and their rape of what was my favorite IP growing up. expressing any kind of criticism, no matter how clear and specific, of any Bethesda game since Oblivion is essentially an ostracizing act. people just don't wanna hear it. BUT IT HAS AN BIG LEVEL.

Saying someone raped a consumer IP isn't criticism it's just you being a huge loving weirdo.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
what was the song from the gameplay part?

:edit found it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR4Uri9H_Ds

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
Wait a minute. Looked through the stream archives. Why are there no skills?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Saying someone raped a consumer IP isn't criticism it's just you being a huge loving weirdo.

george lucas retroactively ruined my childhood

Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

SunAndSpring posted:

Wait a minute. Looked through the stream archives. Why are there no skills?

They are in there, they just didn't show them, just like perks.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Dapper_Swindler posted:

what was the song from the gameplay part?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXSUEU7ISfQ

Back Hack
Jan 17, 2010


I honestly don't know what to think about that Fallout demo. I liked certain things about it (customization, new crafting, voice acting, and the none putty faces), but hated hated other aspects of it (gunplay, that conversation wheel, and the base building). The only honest opinion I can say about it :shrug: and the fact they didn't mention anything story wise outside the scripted intro has me worried.

Generic Monk
Oct 31, 2011

Skeezy posted:

So Fallout Shelter isn't getting an Android release?

I mean come on Bethesda aren't the Androids made in Boston where the new game takes place :colbert:

no one makes tablet exclusive games for anything except the ipad. combine the low level of interest for android tablets (barring super cheap nexus 7 style poo poo that likely isn't gonna attract the kind of person who spends money on apps) with the fairly rampant piracy and the headache of getting native game code running on all the different weird chipsets and it's just an unprofitable headache.

Flaky
Feb 14, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
I hope they don't go too overboard with the zany colours ala. SR3, GTA5 but it looks like we are in safe hands. I am sure there will be weather and lighting mods for this to tone things down a bit.

Also glad they pre-emptively poo poo on the gun-nut realism spergs by forcing them use junk items as ingredients loving lmao

Flaky fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Jun 15, 2015

Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

Back Hack posted:

I honestly don't know what to think about that Fallout demo. I liked certain things about it (customization, new crafting, voice acting, and the none putty faces), but hated hated other aspects of it (gunplay, that conversation wheel, and the base building). The only honest opinion I can say about it :shrug: and the fact they didn't mention anything story wise outside the scripted intro has me worried.

The gunplay looks a million times better than Fallout 3. With the conversation wheel I could have sworn one of them had more than 4 options. Base building will own my bones.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

crawlkill posted:

hey, I used the words "low standards" to describe a Fallout 3 fan while the stream was going out, too. object of my scorn thought that was really offensive, not realizing it was the least offensive possible way to describe a fan of Bethesda games.

this is legitimately the only place I've ever found where there are at least some people who understand my loathing for Bethesda and their rape of what was my favorite IP growing up. expressing any kind of criticism, no matter how clear and specific, of any Bethesda game since Oblivion is essentially an ostracizing act. people just don't wanna hear it. BUT IT HAS AN BIG LEVEL.

Lol you compared artistic liberty to rape

Turds in magma
Sep 17, 2007
can i get a transform out of here?

Flaky posted:

I hope they don't go too overboard with the zany colours ala. SR3, GTA5 but it looks like we are in safe hands. I am sure there will be weather and lighting mods for this to tone things down a bit.

I , too, yearn for the days of monochrome fallout 3

khy
Aug 15, 2005

I am quite excited for Fallout 4, quite disappointed in no Fallout Shelter on Android (For now at least), cautiously optimistic about Doom and Dishonored 2 and utterly apathetic about the TESO and TES card game poo poo.

I'm extremely skeptical about 'bethesda.net' or whatever. I suspect it's going to go very poorly.

Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry

crawlkill posted:

this is legitimately the only place I've ever found where there are at least some people who understand my loathing for Bethesda and their rape of what was my favorite IP growing up

You actually wrote this, in real life

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

Yaos posted:

They are in there, they just didn't show them, just like perks.

They aren't on the menus. I hope they didn't just relegate all the skills to the SPECIAL stats, that would be dumb.

Generic Monk
Oct 31, 2011

Flaky posted:

I hope they don't go too overboard with the zany colours ala. SR3, GTA5 but it looks like we are in safe hands. I am sure there will be weather and lighting mods for this to tone things down a bit.

how does gta5 have zany colours

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

Todd just said there are Perks in Fallout 4 so you guys can calm down now.

Back Hack
Jan 17, 2010


Yaos posted:

The gunplay looks a million times better than Fallout 3.

That's not saying much when you think about it, because the gunplay definitely wasn't it's strong suit at all (NV included).

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless


requires rank 1 science, eh?

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

Flaky posted:

I hope they don't go too overboard with the zany colours ala. SR3, GTA5 but it looks like we are in safe hands. I am sure there will be weather and lighting mods for this to tone things down a bit.

They need to filter every color with green again or else the game is just too cartoony and childish, imo..

Stink Fuck Rob
Nov 22, 2006
I HAVEN'T BATHED SINCE DECEMBER 4, 2009. ARE U READY FOR A STINK FUCK????

Volkerball posted:

look at the top bar. it's a full on loving city.
A city in Bethesda Fallout means five people, tops

I wouldn't set your expectations high for this. It's still an open world game, these kinds of base-building gameplay gimmicks end up getting watered down hard so the game engine doesn't break itself. Would be cool as a standalone game.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
"700+ weapons mods!" - Bethesda

#1 <single shot .22 rifle>
#2 <single shot .22 rifle with repaired stock>
#3 <single shot .22 rifle with silencer>
#4 <single shot .22 rifle with smooth action bolt>
#5 <single shot .22 rifle with scope>
#6 <single shot .22 rifle with match barrel>
#7 <single shot .22 rifle with hair trigger>
#8 <single shot .22 rifle with laser sight>
#9 <single shot .22 rifle with 5 round magazine>
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
#698 <single shot .22 rifle with Shutterfly sticker on stock>
#699 <single shot .22 with VaultTec sticker on stock>
#700 <10mm SMG silencer>

Please don't be this!

Zomborgon
Feb 19, 2014

I don't even want to see what happens if you gain CHIM outside of a pre-coded system.

crawlkill posted:

this is legitimately the only place I've ever found where there are at least some people who understand my loathing for Bethesda and their rape of what was my favorite IP growing up

For your pleasure:

Twenty-sided: The Blistering Stupidity of Fallout 3, Part 1

BattleCattle
May 11, 2014

I'm still waiting for the fallout 3 mod that turns the mysterious stranger into Tuxedo Mask.

Praetorian Mage
Feb 16, 2008

khy posted:

I'm extremely skeptical about 'bethesda.net' or whatever. I suspect it's going to go very poorly.

I really hope it doesn't mean mods will now be Bethesdanet-only.

Generic Monk
Oct 31, 2011

SunAndSpring posted:

They aren't on the menus. I hope they didn't just relegate all the skills to the SPECIAL stats, that would be dumb.

knowing bethesda i'd put money on them replacing them with perks, which would kind of blow.

Octo1
May 7, 2009

Volkerball posted:



requires rank 1 science, eh?

Skills are now perks.

Zomborgon
Feb 19, 2014

I don't even want to see what happens if you gain CHIM outside of a pre-coded system.

Volkerball posted:

requires rank 1 science, eh?

No, it requires level 1 SCIENCE!

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
There's another Rank 1 Required in "Gun Nut"

TERRIBLE SHITLORD
Oct 20, 2005


MY NIGGA HAVE
YOU TRIED LSD

khy posted:

I am quite excited for Fallout 4, quite disappointed in no Fallout Shelter on Android (For now at least), cautiously optimistic about Doom and Dishonored 2 and utterly apathetic about the TESO and TES card game poo poo.

I'm extremely skeptical about 'bethesda.net' or whatever. I suspect it's going to go very poorly.

Yeah I feel like Fallout and Dishonered 2 were hits and Doom and Elderstone cashgrab were misses. Half good is a pretty solid showing at least, as for bethesda.net let's just hope it's not gonna be the next Games for Windows Live or loving Origin.

oblomov
Jun 20, 2002

Meh... #overrated

Turds in magma posted:

can i stick my e-wiener in an e-babe with over 700 custom modifications? I must know now

There is Nexus for that. Give it a few weeks after release and I am sure you will have plethora of options...

Back Hack
Jan 17, 2010


Octo1 posted:

Skills are now perks.

gently caress that poo poo! :argh:

khy
Aug 15, 2005

Octo1 posted:

Skills are now perks.

Could be auto-perks or something.

Like, when you gain 10/15/20/whatever 'science' skill you gain the Science Level 1 perk, and you earn consecutively more as you increase your skill.

I could see that making sense with skill magazines; Magazines would boost skills but not grant perks so you couldn't wield a weapon you normally wouldn't, but you could hack that terminal easier or whatever.

Just a speculation.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

Generic Monk posted:

knowing bethesda i'd put money on them replacing them with perks, which would kind of blow.

I'm reading the Stat descriptions and it's starting look like they did that and consolidated them into SPECIAL. Agility says it affects your stealth, Charisma affects bartering rates, and so on. That's really dumb.

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Generic Monk
Oct 31, 2011

Blistex posted:

"700+ weapons mods!" - Bethesda

#1 <single shot .22 rifle>
#2 <single shot .22 rifle with repaired stock>
#3 <single shot .22 rifle with silencer>
#4 <single shot .22 rifle with smooth action bolt>
#5 <single shot .22 rifle with scope>
#6 <single shot .22 rifle with match barrel>
#7 <single shot .22 rifle with hair trigger>
#8 <single shot .22 rifle with laser sight>
#9 <single shot .22 rifle with 5 round magazine>
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
#698 <single shot .22 rifle with Shutterfly sticker on stock>
#699 <single shot .22 with VaultTec sticker on stock>
#700 <10mm SMG silencer>

Please don't be this!

well 700 [i]possiblities[i] doesn't really pan out to a ton of weapons and mods, and it looked like there was a fairly large selection when they showed them off. look slike they all change the look of the weapon considerably as well which I like

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