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Grimwit posted:KillHour, I can't get enough of this. This is beautiful and honestly makes me want to crank up Dwarf Fortress to try out Adventure Mode. Don't worry, we've got those, too!  Part 5: Getting our hands dirty.
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Soooo, uh, you just killed what's pretty much the ultimate evil of Lord of the Rings. . . What the hell is the post game content in this game? Do you fight the Valar next? Conquer the world? Kill Eru Iluvatar? 
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Let's Play Doom: The Roguelike Ultra-Violence difficulty, Angel of Impatience attempts Episode AoI 3: No Time To Ration my Ammo  With enough gun and ammo to defeat the final boss and only a bit more, I carefully work my way around and through groups of powerful enemies on the final stretch. Now that I've shown off every weapon I'll probably do a few more hard and/or interesting challenges and call it a day.
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So, uh, what happens if you manage to grab someone by the back teeth?
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Jun 15, 2015 07:49
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God I forgot how awesome DF's combat is in adventure mode, gonna have to boot it up again. I don't recall if you mentioned, but which tileset are you using? A link to the ASCII-alike where the letters look like animals would be cool too. Obviously get your necromancer on.
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Roonerspism posted:Let's Play Doom: The Roguelike Great run! You entered Dis with invincibility and a nuclear plasma rifle, weren't tempted for a full win? The unique item might have been armor equipped to something, or under something like you thought. They can't generally be destroyed, though I'm not sure what happens if dropped in liquid. Maybe try some of the more oddball master traits next, like Sharpshooter / Malicious Blades / Entrenchment (sensing a theme... Technician is weird). Or 100% Archangel of 666 on Nightmare  . I'll be happy with any DoomRL you care to show.
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I remember when Toady switched DF over to the layered bone/muscle/fat/skin and organs system with blood loss and stuff. Since things no longer had an upper capacity for trauma short of blood loss and dismemberment, the undead were terrifying. The best way to "kill" a skeleton or zombie was to isolate it and the grapple with it. You then systematically broke each of its limbs, neck etc. so then you could safely dismember it. This got your throat ripped out by bites on a regular basis. 
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Pvt.Scott posted:I remember when Toady switched DF over to the layered bone/muscle/fat/skin and organs system with blood loss and stuff. Since things no longer had an upper capacity for trauma short of blood loss and dismemberment, the undead were terrifying. The best way to "kill" a skeleton or zombie was to isolate it and the grapple with it. You then systematically broke each of its limbs, neck etc. so then you could safely dismember it. This got your throat ripped out by bites on a regular basis. the best part is that one standard undead ~= in strength to a legendary dwarf in full battle raiment and theres necromancer towers with like 100+ undead, if you're an adventurer you can ignore them but if you're in fort mode you're boned
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Dreggon posted:the best part is that one standard undead ~= in strength to a legendary dwarf in full battle raiment I thought things like the undead had a hp pool now so there was only so much they could take.
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KillHour posted:Don't worry, we've got those, too! Spasm of the Void!
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Mzbundifund posted:If I recall correctly, the "permanently cursed" flag on Morgoth's Massive Crown means you can never take it off under any circumstances, right? ...I wonder if some of those fancy traps of flinging-your-items-all-over-the-place could do it. Doesn't it weigh a bajillion arbitrary weight units as well? It's not too heavy (only 2 pounds; I guess it's made out of foamed iron or something), but yeah, once it's equipped it's not coming off under any circumstances. Traps won't remove it either; that's the one good thing about cursed gear. Mind, you almost certainly won't ever want to remove it. ousire posted:Soooo, uh, you just killed what's pretty much the ultimate evil of Lord of the Rings. . . What the hell is the post game content in this game? Do you fight the Valar next? Conquer the world? Kill Eru Iluvatar? You'll see soon enough. It's simultaneously really dumb and pretty awesome.
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Part 1 - The Excommunication of Big Ick
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Wow, Savage mode throws a fair bit more at you even in the starter dungeon. I'm a huge fan of Pumpkin Bombs; they're an AoE attack and they've often saved me from taking hits. The 2 stamina cost is readily re-acquired, considering that they very often hit at least two enemies. Seems like Scarecrow is important for large-scale crowd control on Savage, but I'd definitely take Pumpkin Bomb over Pitch Fork.
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Pumpkins and scarecrow are my go to skills for the farmer, though the latter needs all three levels to become godly. Bombs already is cost efficient from one point and helps immensely during Savage mode. Nothing like constant explosions keeping your stamina maxed out for using your ult if hp drops too low. Farmer is one of the classes that can pretty much coast through Savage without being screwed by RNG
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KillHour posted:Don't worry, we've got those, too! Center of the earth after getting a full set of bronze or better armor and weapons.
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I guess I just have a different playstyle then  I mean, I see the value in pumpkins, but I usually prefer to spend stamina when I have to vs preparing ahead of time. Usually, that means Scarecrow them away when my melee fails and pelt them with Pitch Forks as they run/fight each other. In that regard, pumpkins just land in the wrong spots for me when I end up trying to use them offensively and in the moment, so they cost too much for what I try to do with them.
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A common use case for me when I last played was that I have two enemies moving up towards me, and they'll both reach melee range at the same time. By putting a pumpkin bomb in front of one of them, I can attack both of them at the same time. But hey, you're the player here. I will say that I find Sproggiwood does a great job of rewarding players who do more than just bump-combat their way through the game. Stamina refills are plentiful enough that you should be using your abilities frequently.
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Yeah, I'm not going to bash pitchforks because I haven't tried to build around it. And there's certainly creative uses built into some of the items.
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Dirk the Average posted:Crawl has wizard mode, which is basically the same thing. Crawl also has explore mode, as of the last version of the game!
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Do you grab stamina stars from spawned-in enemies, or do thy give absolutely nothing?
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Glazius posted:Do you grab stamina stars from spawned-in enemies, or do thy give absolutely nothing? They still give stamina, just no experience/money. With Cornucopia, the Farmer can use monster spawners (like the spider nests) to heal himself; other classes can at least recover their stamina if it's depleted.
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Glazius posted:Do you grab stamina stars from spawned-in enemies, or do thy give absolutely nothing? As of last version I played spawned in enemies still gave stars.
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PleasingFungus posted:Crawl also has explore mode, as of the last version of the game! Whaaaaat?!
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Speleothing posted:Whaaaaat?! Hit '+'. (Not sure if it's numpad or numrow plus.)
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Lprsti99 posted:God I forgot how awesome DF's combat is in adventure mode, gonna have to boot it up again. I don't recall if you mentioned, but which tileset are you using? A link to the ASCII-alike where the letters look like animals would be cool too. Speleothing posted:Center of the earth after getting a full set of bronze or better armor and weapons. I'm going to let the voting go on until tomorrow evening. If there's still a tie, I will choose arbitrarily and unfairly. 
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PleasingFungus posted:Hit '+'. (Not sure if it's numpad or numrow plus.) Not in webtiles, doesn't count.
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KillHour posted:I'm going to let the voting go on until tomorrow evening. If there's still a tie, I will choose arbitrarily and unfairly. The only way you are going to survive this type of nightmarish combat against a real enemy is to raise an undead army, starting with Fikod.
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I'd like to see some Whizkid assemblies shown off, what mode is most conducive to that?
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Angel of 100, played as a Technician with Scavenger.  I give it a try every so often but I always eventually lose concentration and start loving up. Death follows shortly thereafter.
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KillHour posted:I'm going to let the voting go on until tomorrow evening. If there's still a tie, I will choose arbitrarily and unfairly. Necromancy sounds like it'd be more interesting. Do that.
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pumpinglemma posted:Angel of 100, played as a Technician with Scavenger. I like that Scavenger only blocks second tier traits.
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KillHour posted:I'm going to let the voting go on until tomorrow evening. If there's still a tie, I will choose arbitrarily and unfairly.
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So are 2x2 squares really the best possible approach for herbs? It seems like you could do fancy stuff like making glider guns or similar.
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KillHour posted:Don't worry, we've got those, too! In the middle of combat there you went unconscious for a bit while biting the poo poo out of a kobold's arm. I couldn't tell why though. Did your dude pass out from exhaustion or did I miss the kobold strangling you?
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pumpinglemma posted:So are 2x2 squares really the best possible approach for herbs? It seems like you could do fancy stuff like making glider guns or similar. Theoretically, it would be possible to make something like that in ADOM, but practically speaking each generation takes a couple dozen turns of waiting, on most levels there just won't be any rooms big enough to build something that fancy, and a lot of things that large are kind of fragile and it's easy to accidentally pick a bush to death. The herb you get from a bush depends on the row the bush is on; 2x2 blocks give consistent output, grow quickly, are easy to make, and are hardy enough that if you accidentally overpick something, it'll grow back as long as you leave the rest of it alone.
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Pvt.Scott posted:In the middle of combat there you went unconscious for a bit while biting the poo poo out of a kobold's arm. I couldn't tell why though. Did your dude pass out from exhaustion or did I miss the kobold strangling you? 'X(you, enemy, etc) gives in to pain.' means that the character passes out from the pain of a wound. So the kobold biting the neck and bruising the fat is likely what caused the blacking out. Stay away from anything with hooves.
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ZeeToo posted:If you ever get DredmorRL to half the quality of DoomRL, I'll probably sink sixty hours into it. Nothing I have written is anywhere near the scope or quality of DoomRL.  And I have almost no time for programming these days anyways.But it's joined the set of project ideas I have percolating in the back of my mind that I might work on if I ever win the lottery or something. (First question: do I write it as a TE4 module, or roll my own engine?) pumpinglemma posted:Angel of 100, played as a Technician with Scavenger. I recently finished an Ao100 100% kills HMP Scavenger run, I just haven't had time to sit down and write it up yet. (Spoilers: Scavenger is nearly useless and would be completely useless if the RNG didn't hate me more than usual on this run.)
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That's been my experience with Scavenger. It's a neat perk in theory, but in practice it's usually kind of useless, and even when you luck out and it lets you score some cool mods, it's still just kind of nice as opposed to the Really Powerful game-changing abilities granted by the other capstone perks. Now, if Scavenger somehow let you generate more ammo from disassembling weapons, that might actually be kind of badass - having tons of mods, the ability to recover mods, AND the ability to convert extra weapons into a significant stockpile of ammunition would be pretty great for sustainability and might actually make that a solid perk for someone who plays carefully and conserves their health well. Go ahead, spam those rockets! Use that Firestorm-modified Vulcan burst cannon! You can just make more goddamn bullets!! You are a mad god of crafting and the demons will perish before the might of your artifice!!!  Other perks would probably still be somewhat better, but at least then Scavenger would have a consistent (and quite nice) use throughout the game that synergized really well with any wonky assemblies you bodged together if you couldn't find the mods needed for an infinitely sustainable nano-weapon.
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