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thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

pookel posted:

Here's something I miss doing:



My smartphone is great for texting, surfing the internet, and playing games, but it kind of sucks as an actual phone. Hands-free is basically impossible.

Most smartphones ship with headphones with a built in mic these days, use that.

Or bluetooth...

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pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

thespaceinvader posted:

Most smartphones ship with headphones with a built in mic these days, use that.

Or bluetooth...

Mine didn't. Besides, headphones aren't the same thing.

mystes
May 31, 2006

pookel posted:

Mine didn't. Besides, headphones aren't the same thing.
True, they hurt your neck much less.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


On one hand, with landlines you have to play the "Do I need to dial this long distance or not?" game, usually followed by a *DO DOO DOO* YOU CHOSE POORLY

On the other, my cellphone's mic is full of dust or something so I have to yell at the fuckin thing.

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp
My smartphone likes to think that my cheek is trying to use the touchscreen, and turn itself off in the middle of calls.

OTOH, I'd usually rather play Candy Crush than talk to people anyway, and it gives me a handy excuse not to call them. "Sorry, my phone sucks! I'll just email you later. Bye!"

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

pookel posted:

My smartphone likes to think that my cheek is trying to use the touchscreen, and turn itself off in the middle of calls.

Same but my ear.

I have big ears.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

pookel posted:

Mine didn't. Besides, headphones aren't the same thing.

If you don't need privacy put it on speaker I guess. Otherwise use a bluetooth ear/head piece.
Sure they have a wanky reputation, but a big land line telephone handpiece is no good either when you're driving or crawling through a roof space anyway.
I hate phones and talking and I'm not some "self important try hard businessperson", but had to get one for those reasons. Blueant is pretty good.

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Fooley
Apr 25, 2006

Blue moon of Kentucky keep on shinin'...
There's always this, if you're just standing around or driving or whatever...

http://www.amazon.com/GoJo-Hands-Free-Adjustable-Headset/dp/B007RENZDQ

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Fooley posted:

There's always this, if you're just standing around or driving or whatever...

http://www.amazon.com/GoJo-Hands-Free-Adjustable-Headset/dp/B007RENZDQ
Edit: Apparently, if you upload a pic you can't remove it. Mods, help?

RoyKeen has a new favorite as of 20:42 on Jun 16, 2015

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
Yeah, those look pretty lovely. I think I paid about $100 for a blueant (in a similar style to their original "T1", and that's after I gave up on OEM nokia, and random ~$50 cheapies.)
That's Aussie prices though, and 4 years ago so they're probably cheaper now, and cheaper in the USA anyway. I wouldn't buy any other brand unless you like wasting your time, as I went through heaps of other brands, and I treated them hard and only blueant survived years of disdain and abuse.
Nokia sucked poo poo - dropped calls, cheapies under $40 hardly synced, others around $50 had poor voice quality, the blueant had clear audio and mic and worked fine.


e:
VVVV
Samsung would have been proud for it to fail 2 weeks out of warranty. That's what every manufacturer tries to achieve these days I think. "cheap enough sell, good enough to not cost in warranty repairs". The Colin Chapman school of design.

And to settle for $100 off a refurb, they have to be laughing.

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Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Gaz2k21 posted:

My first DVD player was the Samsung 709 it cost about £300 at the time and was easily converted to a multi region machine which is what sold it to me, It would also play VCD but only retail version's home burnt VCD's would get spat out unless they we're burnt onto one specific brand of CD-R.
I remember spending hours working out how to rip a DVD and convert it into a VCD format (practicing first on a short clip from Limp Bizkit's Break Stuff video from the "Rollin" DVD single, my excitement when I put the disc into my Samsung and after a few seconds of loading that 30 second clip played flawlessly.
I figured I'd cracked it and went about the same procedure for a full movie, a procedure that would take somewhere in the region of 100 hours, it was a glorious time before DVD Burners became the norm.

Ironically that DVD player wouldn't even consider a burnt DVD so I had to purchase a new player, some cheap piece of poo poo that played DivX as well, it died within a year but the Samsung that lasted a full 10 years I loved that machine.

Funny, I also had a Samsung 709 and it stopped reading disc about 2 weeks after the warranty was up. The problem was common enough that there was a class action lawsuit against Samsung. Participant got $100 off of a referb Samsung player (I forgot the model, but it lasted me years).

edit: oh, and my 709 would play DVD-Rs before it died, but only if they were on high quality media that was burned at a low speed.

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ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

Arrath posted:

On one hand, with landlines you have to play the "Do I need to dial this long distance or not?" game, usually followed by a *DO DOO DOO* YOU CHOSE POORLY

On the other, my cellphone's mic is full of dust or something so I have to yell at the fuckin thing.

Is long distance still a thing? Pretty much every phone TV Internet combo I've seen for years has unlimited US calling.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



ElwoodCuse posted:

Is long distance still a thing? Pretty much every phone TV Internet combo I've seen for years has unlimited US calling.

I realized this fact a few weeks back, dug out my old modem, and started dialing BBSes.

BBSes kinda sucked... Usenet was a much better idea with a better implementation and more usable tools.

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.

ElwoodCuse posted:

Is long distance still a thing? Pretty much every phone TV Internet combo I've seen for years has unlimited US calling.

In the sense that you have to append 1+Area Code before the 7-digit number, yes? Though that's something I have to do on my cell phone as well. You're right about the whole unlimited nationwide calling thing.

Which reminds me of another obsolete technology: long-distance calling cards. I know international calling cards are still very much a thing, but I remember having to ask my father for the MCI card so I could dial the 1-800 number then the card account number then finally the actual phone number just so I could call my grandparents.

Kugyou no Tenshi
Nov 8, 2005

We can't keep the crowd waiting, can we?

Pham Nuwen posted:

I realized this fact a few weeks back, dug out my old modem, and started dialing BBSes.

BBSes kinda sucked... Usenet was a much better idea with a better implementation and more usable tools.

Counterpoint: You can't play Trade Wars, Legend of the Red Dragon, Global War, or Cripple Fight over Usenet.

...Speaking of which, I should see if there's still any decent Trade Wars servers out there and if Attack Terminal is still maintained.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
For those of you missing landlines, they make Bluetooth adapters that connect like a headset, but let you plug in a regular old phone. It will ring, dial, etc and work just like you remember, they own.

Super Waffle
Sep 25, 2007

I'm a hermaphrodite and my parents (40K nerds) named me Slaanesh, THANKS MOM

Magnus Praeda posted:

In the sense that you have to append 1+Area Code before the 7-digit number, yes? Though that's something I have to do on my cell phone as well. You're right about the whole unlimited nationwide calling thing.

I've had to dial the area code for even local numbers since the mid 90's, is this not a thing everywhere? I thought the distinction between "long-distance" and "local" calls (aside from international calls) was obsolete technology

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.

Super Waffle posted:

I've had to dial the area code for even local numbers since the mid 90's, is this not a thing everywhere? I thought the distinction between "long-distance" and "local" calls (aside from international calls) was obsolete technology

Nope. Regardless of if I'm calling from a cell phone or a land line, if the prefix of the number is "local" (i.e. it shows up as a number from this city), I just dial the 7-digit phone number. If I am calling a number from a different city, I have to add the area code. I do live in one of the few states that only has 1 area code--I don't know if that makes the difference.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

Super Waffle posted:

I've had to dial the area code for even local numbers since the mid 90's, is this not a thing everywhere? I thought the distinction between "long-distance" and "local" calls (aside from international calls) was obsolete technology

Depends on where you live. Where I grew up, the population is small enough that to this day there's still only a single 3 digit exchange for a five-town radius.

Even the largest town in the county (which was still local to my town) only had two exchanges, and that's just because they have a medium-sized college in town.

For that matter, the whole state only has one area code...for all numbers...landline, cell, and fax. (Though after looking, several more states than I would think still only have one.)

Super Waffle
Sep 25, 2007

I'm a hermaphrodite and my parents (40K nerds) named me Slaanesh, THANKS MOM
Makes no difference here (Orlando). I literally can not make a call on a land line without putting in the area code, even if I am calling next door.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

flosofl posted:

The title Saving Ryan's Privates will always have a special place in my heart. Don't know if it's a real porn or not, but it should be.

We're way off topic, but my two favourites are the simplicity of "Cum on My Big Fuckin' Tits", and for pure magic "Willy Wonked Her in the Chocolate Factory".

cobalt impurity
Apr 23, 2010

I hope he didn't care about that pizza.

Super Waffle posted:

I've had to dial the area code for even local numbers since the mid 90's, is this not a thing everywhere? I thought the distinction between "long-distance" and "local" calls (aside from international calls) was obsolete technology

I grew up in an area where you didn't have to dial the area code, then moved to one where you did. It became so ingrained in me that even when I moved back I still instinctively dial the area code and give mine when people ask for my number.

With mobile phones not needing to stay where they were issued and still get service, you often get people with area codes from around the country. The only time I don't hear people giving their area code with the whole number is either old people or local businesses on the radio.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
Holy poo poo there's states with only one area code?

I did not know that.

I grew up in countryside NW Oregon and I remember how weird it was when we had to start dialing all 10 digits with every number, regardless of area code.

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.

Code Jockey posted:

Holy poo poo there's states with only one area code?

I did not know that.

I grew up in countryside NW Oregon and I remember how weird it was when we had to start dialing all 10 digits with every number, regardless of area code.

Several, including (but not limited to) both Dakotas, Montana, Wyoming, Alaska, Maine...Basically all the sparsely populated states.

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde
I still have a VHS player and tapes of stuff I recorded off TV in 1983 that still play fine! In the late 90's this was a pretty cool but short lived technology:



Certain Sony VCRs had a feature called SmartFile. These are labels that contained an RFID chip. So it would store info about what you recorded on a tape. Just basic stuff like the channel, the start and stop times, and the duration of what you taped, but it was cool because you could take a tape and wave it in front of your VCR and the info about what's on the tape would get displayed on your TV.

It beat keeping a notebook of that stuff and always having to update it.

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Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

I have this, and actually used it a lot for work conference calls from home when I was 3 time zones away and didn't want to come into the office at 5 am because the speaker on my phone was basically indecipherable in a conference call.

e: I got mine for like $3 from woot at some point though. I don't think I'd pay $20.

NyetscapeNavigator
Sep 22, 2003

Keith Atherton posted:

I still have a VHS player and tapes of stuff I recorded off TV in 1983 that still play fine! In the late 90's this was a pretty cool but short lived technology:



Certain Sony VCRs had a feature called SmartFile. These are labels that contained an RFID chip. So it would store info about what you recorded on a tape. Just basic stuff like the channel, the start and stop times, and the duration of what you taped, but it was cool because you could take a tape and wave it in front of your VCR and the info about what's on the tape would get displayed on your TV.

It beat keeping a notebook of that stuff and always having to update it.

My dad would have been so much more efficient at recording over precious family memories with Sunday football and cataloging them in his dungeon basement with this technology.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!

They also make Bluetooth versions, but they're all cheaply made. True hipsters get an actual ancient phone with a six-pound Bakelite receiver and cut/solder a Bluetooth earpiece into it. (Note: I have not personally done that. But I've seriously considered it.)

If you're going to be using it a lot, consider getting one of these:


It must have sucked to be a receptionist or telemarketer before headsets were a thing. I mean, it still sucks, but at least now you don't gently caress up your neck.

pookel posted:

My smartphone likes to think that my cheek is trying to use the touchscreen, and turn itself off in the middle of calls.
You have a cheap lovely smartphone. Both HTCs I've had have a photocell next to the earhole that turns off the touchscreen when it goes dark. On the other hand, it's still annoying as hell -- you pretty much have to use speakerphone or a hands-free headset for touchtone menus because it's laggy as hell turning the screen back on.

On a tangent, my grandmother never upgraded to touchtone service. She didn't even have a phone with buttons until she had her first stroke in 2007, when Mom and my aunt took over paying her bills and bought her a cordless landline setup and a cell (the latter to keep on her at all times in case she fell or something).

Grandmother's one concession to semi-modern telephony was getting one of these so she could use her bank-by-phone:


Which, if I'd gotten into playing with electronics a bit earlier, was apparently really easy to convert into a blue box.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXZMgHKhefk

Both the pocket dialers and phreaking are obsolete now. I don't even have a landline, and I've seen maybe one payphone in the last five years. And, as the guy in the video says, if you do manage to find one the telcos upgraded the backend to make 'em phreak-proof around 1995.

Super Waffle posted:

I've had to dial the area code for even local numbers since the mid 90's, is this not a thing everywhere?
It's only a thing when an area code gets split. Say, for my local example, it used to be 903-xxx-xxxx, and you only had to dial the seven digits, when calling somebody else in 903, but then they added 430 covering the same area, so now you have to dial the full number because there's two area codes for the same ... area. Now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever dialed a 430 number, but maybe that's because I live (relatively) out in the boonies. I'm sure there a lot of places up in Texarkana with 430 numbers.

Magnus Praeda just lives out in BFE and only has one area code in their area.

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp
I'm in a Dakota (the northern one), and A) we have only one area code, and B) we only have to dial it for long distance. Newcomers often find it odd that people who share an area code with us might be long distance.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Delivery McGee posted:

You have a cheap lovely smartphone. Both HTCs I've had have a photocell next to the earhole that turns off the touchscreen when it goes dark. On the other hand, it's still annoying as hell -- you pretty much have to use speakerphone or a hands-free headset for touchtone menus because it's laggy as hell turning the screen back on

These are usually in IR emitter/receiver than a purely PV cell (in which case it would turn off the screen in the dark.)

I would guess his phone has a bad proximity sensor, its a fairly common failure across manufacturers. I don't think anyone has built a smartphone/all touchscreen phone without one.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Super Waffle posted:

Makes no difference here (Orlando). I literally can not make a call on a land line without putting in the area code, even if I am calling next door.

You're in a major city. There's probably not a geographical distinction between two or more area codes at this point.

Konstantin
Jun 20, 2005
And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.
It has to do with how new area codes are allocated. They used to split one geographic area into two smaller ones when they needed to add an area code, but that made a lot of people angry since they had to change their number. Now they do an "overlay" where everyone keeps their number, but most new numbers use the new area code. The downside to that is that you need to dial the area code on local calls, but that's less bad than the alternative, especially since most people are on cell phones anyway where it doesn't matter.

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde
I remember my my aunt and uncle had an actual olde tyme phone with the thing on a cord that you put to your ear to hear, and you would talk into the unit to talk. They didn't depend on it but it worked! They also were on a party line so your call might get interrupted by someone.

Also back then it only took 5 digits to make a local call. And your phone had a circular ring dial mechanism and you rented it from the phone company. You couldn't buy a phone.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



Keith Atherton posted:

Also back then it only took 5 digits to make a local call. And your phone had a circular ring dial mechanism and you rented it from the phone company. You couldn't buy a phone.

And a lot of homes had phone lines directly hardwired into the wall - no RJ45 jacks.

Hell, the house I grew up in didn't even have wiring for cable TV. :(

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

Keith Atherton posted:

Also back then it only took 5 digits to make a local call. And your phone had a circular ring dial mechanism and you rented it from the phone company. You couldn't buy a phone.

I still remember the phone number for my home back in the late 70s - "47637". A friend of the family's phone number was something like "Darnmouth 191"

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug

Keith Atherton posted:

Also back then it only took 5 digits to make a local call. And your phone had a circular ring dial mechanism and you rented it from the phone company. You couldn't buy a phone.

We had a government run phone system until 20 or so years ago and they made you rent a phone for every line you had. Since privatization, they have allowed for people to buy and use phones not supplied by the phone company, but made little effort to get people to return the ones they were paying to rent. About a year ago I happened to look at one of my parents' phone bills and they were being charged about $3.50 each month for phone rental. That means they spent more than 800 dollars renting a telephone over the past two decades.

I have also been to places within the past two years that are so small everyone has the same exchange so they will only give you the last four digits to their phone number.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
I think the Apple Newton had a feature where you could "dial" people from having it play back the tones into a receiver.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

When I was a kid my dad had an electronic contact list gizmo which could dial contacts by playing DTMF tones. It was kind of neat in 1989 I guess.

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

Geoj posted:

These are usually in IR emitter/receiver than a purely PV cell (in which case it would turn off the screen in the dark.)

I would guess his her phone has a bad proximity sensor, its a fairly common failure across manufacturers. I don't think anyone has built a smartphone/all touchscreen phone without one.
And yeah, sounds like it. Pressed against my cheek, it's OK - move it half an inch away and then return it to my cheek, and suddenly my cheek has pushed a button.

I don't actually want to return to the days of corded home phones (and I don't want a replica to plug into my smartphone, since it won't fit in my pocket), but I do miss them sometimes.

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blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

WebDog posted:

I think the Apple Newton had a feature where you could "dial" people from having it play back the tones into a receiver.

The coolest trick was tapping the hook to pulse dial a number. Doubly so on a courtesy phone.

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