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EthanSteele
Nov 18, 2007

I can hear you

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

With that needle you generally shouldn't have problems shooting anything. As long as your stuff is thinned to the consistency of milk, you can shoot it down to almost nothing PSI if needed.

You can thin it with a little water and some dish soap or flow improver to help prevent tip dry. Or you can use an airbrush medium fluid, which companies like Liquitex or Golden sell, which is ideal since it's basically the carrier normally found in airbrush paints, minus the color. Just avoid thinning with a alcohol, as that will increase tip dry if it's already a problem.


big_g posted:

I use Vallejo Model and Game air for nearly everything nowadays. I generally shoot at or just under 1.5 bar.

You can use them straight out of the bottle but what I do for most coats is add a few drops of thinner straight into the paint cup as well as one or two drops of Vallejo gloss varnish, back flow the air to mix it up and use that. Seems to work nice.

Thanks for both of these. Yeah today I found out that it's recommended to do like 1:3 thinner to paint even with model air, so I did that and had a much better time, I did also knock it up to just under 20 psi instead of the 15. I did the back flow mix up thing and it made it hella bubbly which was a pain. I also feel like I'm wasting a lot of paint. 12 drops + 4 thinner should go a lot further than the little bits I was doing. I think 9 drops of paint did me a plastic spoon? Like 2 coats I guess? I think I was just pulling the trigger back too much after being paranoid about clogs and also the higher psi. I have a lot of trouble with colours too so I have difficulty seeing where I've painted if there isn't a lot of contrast. My needle is also a little bent, you can't feel it if you run it across your finger and it doesn't catch on a q-tip, but I had to straighten it after jamming it in my finger taking the rubber sleeve off so it definitely isn't ideal.

Airbrushing is real fun though, especially now tip dry is staved off for a bit longer! I think I'll practice technique with some food dye in water, much cheaper than wasting all this paint. Thanks again!

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The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





lilljonas posted:

I will never complain about gluing tank threads again...

You are lying and you know it.

:laugh:

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

The Locator posted:

You are lying and you know it.

:laugh:

I've had one kit where the treads weren't a pain in the rear end and I was convinced I was doing something wrong the whole time.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

The Locator posted:

You are lying and you know it.

:laugh:

Hell yes, I'll be swearing over some threads within months. But the latest one, the new 1/48 Tamiya Pz. 38(t), wasn't that bad at all. The Sd. Kfz. 251 that I built before that was driving me nuts though.

I think I forgot the Pz. 38:



I'm going to paint it a lovely wargaming tabletop quality level, but it was a fun and straight forward kit to build.

Rotten Cookies
Nov 11, 2008

gosh! i like both the islanders and the rangers!!! :^)

So... has anybody done or thought about throwing some kits together for a Mad Max kinda thing? Because I'm thinkin' about it. Thinkin' real hard. But first I want to finish these Battlestar Vipers.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Gotta nuke something
That could be a cool. Get a good quality "base" kit of whatever vehicle, and then check the local hobby shops for their cheapest shittiest kits to kitbash from.

Molentik
Apr 30, 2013

Rotten Cookies posted:

So... has anybody done or thought about throwing some kits together for a Mad Max kinda thing? Because I'm thinkin' about it. Thinkin' real hard. But first I want to finish these Battlestar Vipers.

I'm thinking of turning a Stug IV into a Panzerspaßwagen with speakers on the front and turntables where the gun should be. On Armorama there are a few campaigns of What If vehicles, great for inspiration.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

That could be a cool. Get a good quality "base" kit of whatever vehicle, and then check the local hobby shops for their cheapest shittiest kits to kitbash from.

The tank car was built on a Ripsaw chassi. If anyone finds a kit or convincing look alike, please share!

Gervasius
Nov 2, 2010



Grimey Drawer

Rotten Cookies posted:

So... has anybody done or thought about throwing some kits together for a Mad Max kinda thing? Because I'm thinkin' about it. Thinkin' real hard. But first I want to finish these Battlestar Vipers.

I have a (terrible) old Heller Puma and thinking of finding a cheap Hind and kitbashing them together to make this thing

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

Molentik posted:

I'm thinking of turning a Stug IV into a Panzerspaßwagen with speakers on the front and turntables where the gun should be. On Armorama there are a few campaigns of What If vehicles, great for inspiration.

The Russian modelling website karopka.ru has a creatively named lunacy of a feverish mind section which contains some neat stuff like this.

Edit: this one is sort of Mad Maxey I guess.

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.

Rotten Cookies posted:

So... has anybody done or thought about throwing some kits together for a Mad Max kinda thing? Because I'm thinkin' about it. Thinkin' real hard. But first I want to finish these Battlestar Vipers.

The June issue of Wargames Illustrated is all about post-apocalyptic gaming, and there are two Mad Max specific articles in it. One is about a set of rules some dudes developed over beer, and it has a ton of great conversion pictures.

The other is how to build a bus that is also an armored fence to keep giant people and their gangs from stealing your petrol.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





So I got all the double blocks done, then realized I had the wrong size rope to rig the blocks, which means I can't do the single blocks until I get it. In the mean time, I moved on to the breaching lines. These are the ropes that stopped the cannons from rolling backwards when they were fired, and absorbed all the recoil, so they are pretty large ropes.

To make these, I need to seize the rope to the ring bolts that are in the bulwarks on either side of the gun port. They also run through the rings already installed on the cannon carriages, and then wrap around the cascabel (the knob thing at the back of the cannon). The seizing is done with thread, and rather than explain how it's done (because I'm not sure I can), here's a drawing:



Here is what one of the ends looks like after doing that, but before trimming all the ends off.


After trimming.


And test fitting on the ship.


So not terrible for a first attempt, but I need to re-do this for a couple reasons.

First, I made the rope too long, it needs to be just long enough to let the gun roll back far enough to reload, and this one is just a bit longer than that, and it looks bad because it's too long. I might actually have to make it shorter than it really should be, just because it's so hard to get scale rope this small to lay properly around the gun.

Second, the thread I used for the seizing is too large compared to the rope, it should be quite a bit thinner, so when I redo this I'll use some finer thread.

Not terribly unhappy with this for a first attempt/test though, I could probably live with it like this if I wasn't so OCD about poo poo. But, I am, so it is going to get redone. :v:

Edit: The seizing looks much better (to scale) when done with the super thin thread:

The Locator fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Jun 18, 2015

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Keeping the thread alive with more gun rigging!

I got the smaller rope size I wanted to rig the guns with, so I made up the single block with the rope attached, and then made my first block & tackle set for a gun.


And after making a 2nd one, even though I haven't made a shortened breaching rope yet, I stuck it on the ship because I wanted to see it!


Unfortunately, it's sort of hard to make out, but in that 2nd photo, the hook that connects to the eye-bolt in the bulwark broke off while I was messing with it, so I have to re-do a double-block.

The excess rope gets coiled up on the deck next to the gun, and once the breaching rope is shortened up, that's all the rigging for this gun, as I don't plan to rig the in-haul tackle (it would be another block and tackle that connects the eye-bolt at the back of the gun to that ring-bolt on the deck you can see in the picture). I'm not adding those ropes for a couple reasons. In general they would only be in place when they were fighting the ship because all the deck traffic would have to step over them all the time, and also, because the 3rd guns in this kit are too close to the ring-bolts in the deck to actually fit the tackle properly - I think the main hatch is oversized possibly, but regardless, there just isn't enough distance between the back of the gun carriage and the ring-bolt. The hazards of building from a kit instead of scratch building from real plans I suppose.

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012
Just want to reiterate that you're pathologically insane.

Never stop posting.

Greyhawk
May 30, 2001


For something completely different, I decided to subscribe to DeAgostinis D51 model build.

Which over the course of the next two years will become a full metal three foot long, 10+ kilo, partly motorized and lighted 1:8 model of this beauty



Here's where I am at the end of week 2:



And this is how it will look like in two years

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
I had no idea a ship HAD all these parts, let alone what they're called or how to form them.

You're a lovely mad bastard.

Skunkduster
Jul 15, 2005





What are the diagonal slots in the wall for?

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Greyhawk posted:

For something completely different, I decided to subscribe to DeAgostinis D51 model build.

Which over the course of the next two years will become a full metal three foot long, 10+ kilo, partly motorized and lighted 1:8 model of this beauty

Holy crap, that's a big bastard! Please post progress, that looks like something awesome to see come together. The beginning looks great! Do you plan to leave it in brass finish or blacken it?

If you don't already have it, I highly suggest grabbing a copy of this book - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0764340042?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00

SkunkDuster posted:

What are the diagonal slots in the wall for?

Those are called sweep ports. Up until the early, or even mid 1800's, ships that were small enough (and in some cases, way too big to be considered small enough) were fitted with sweep ports where they could extend oars (sweeps) out the side to help maneuver the ship, or even move it in becalmed conditions. In many ships these ports are square, but on some they are shaped like this one where the oar only fits through in one direction.

If you see a ship that appears to have miniature gun ports below and/or between the actual gun ports, those are sweep ports.

Here are some pictures that demonstrates this other type of sweep port on the brig Niagara, which is a replica that you can actually go visit and go sailing on.


All those little square holes in between the gun ports serve the same purpose as the diagonal slots on the Virginia Sloop, although the Niagara is about twice the size and probably 3 or 4 times the displacement of the sloop, so actually moving it with oars might be a fun time.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Man those would have to be some long rear end oars.

Molentik
Apr 30, 2013

Anyone here know how to make convex lenses for some sunglasses?

Greyhawk
May 30, 2001


The Locator posted:

Holy crap, that's a big bastard! Please post progress, that looks like something awesome to see come together. The beginning looks great! Do you plan to leave it in brass finish or blacken it?

It's huge. I can fit my hand inside the smokebox. I'm planning to leave it in brass if I don't mess it up with glue.

Forgot to post the video to this thing for some better looks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwaRMeIjtjM

That's the model running at 0:54

Molentik
Apr 30, 2013

glue? why not solder the bitch up? the joints will be much stronger!

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Make me one in N scale next.

Greyhawk
May 30, 2001


Molentik posted:

glue? why not solder the bitch up? the joints will be much stronger!

It's mostly screwed together with small decorative parts being glued with CA and larger ones being epoxied and/or screwed.


Baronjutter posted:

Make me one in N scale next.


You wouldn't believe how often this comes up in train modeler forums when this beast is mentioned. Well, maybe you would.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Greyhawk posted:

That's the model running at 0:54

Is it 'motorized' with electric, or does it actually have a working steam engine?

Wibbleman
Apr 19, 2006

Fluffy doesn't want to be sacrificed

Greyhawk posted:

You wouldn't believe how often this comes up in train modeler forums when this beast is mentioned. Well, maybe you would.

HO Scale good enough? http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10322413

well actually N scale looks fine. Kato make them. http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10286558 or http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10286556

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

gently caress mixing brands of track together, gently caress my soldering skills, and gently caress the fact that my fingers and now totally covered in CA to seal up all the tiny little cuts these bastard little shards of metal gave me. The trains run over it all fine and don't complain much and it won't look so bad once it's ballasted. But still, life is a nightmare.

Pile of Kittens
Apr 23, 2005

Why does everything STILL smell like pussy?

Baronjutter posted:

gently caress mixing brands of track together, gently caress my soldering skills, and gently caress the fact that my fingers and now totally covered in CA to seal up all the tiny little cuts these bastard little shards of metal gave me. The trains run over it all fine and don't complain much and it won't look so bad once it's ballasted. But still, life is a nightmare.



Huh. How can you be so bad at soldering? You're great at all the other tiny handwork. Are you heating up your joint properly? Remember that your iron goes on the joint, then solder goes on the joint, not on the iron.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I paint some flux on the joiner and bottom of the track, press it all together with one hand and take my filthy ash and melted plastic encrusted soldering iron with a blob of solder on the tip and rub it around.

I do a much better job when it's just two normal pieces of track. The solder just melts into the cracks and vanishes. But in this situation I'm soldering joiners to the bottom of track, they aren't sliding on or anything. So I have to use a big ol' blob to actually hold it on.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Tonight I gave my imaginary ships captain a way to steer the ship.

Parts:
A dowel that gets cut down and drilled.
A cast metal wheel that gets painted.
A laser-cut piece that forms the forward support.
A brass rod that's cut to length and filed round on one end.
A short piece of scale rope.

Hardest part of this assembly was the shaping of the 1/4" long piece of dowel.


Assembled, and then rope added.


A hole for the rod gets drilled in the wall of the aft cabin, and then two holes are drilled in the deck to accept the loose ends of the rope. The entire assembly is then placed on the deck and secured with CA glue.



On the real ship the wheel works by pulling the rope around the barrel, and below the deck the rope is run through pulleys to the aft end of the ship where it's attached to a tiller which is attached to the top of the rudder. By rotating the barrel that the rope is on, it moves the tiller and the rudder.

Fairly happy with how it came out, and it was completely done in a single session, probably about 90 minutes, including the painting and the staining of the wood. It's nice to actually accomplish a completed item in that short amount of time. The single most time consuming part was the filing/sanding of the cast wheel to prepare it for paint.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Do it the proper way, weld them with thermite :unsmigghh:

(also, what the hell's wrong with those plywood layers?)

Smoke
Mar 12, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Gun Saliva


Currently decalling up a Revell 1:144 Tomcat, but the missile racks keep falling off. Gonna end up finishing the decals, then re-glueing them on, then fixing paint issues.

I've also got the Revell 1:720 USS Intrepid that needs to be painted, but it's an old mold and it clearly shows by having large amounts of flash on it and not fitting together all that well in parts(The hull and the bottom of it have minor alignment issues, I was already able to fix most of it) Gonna have to get some putty to clean that up. Given that I've never done this before, should I go with Revell's own stuff or are there other brands better suited for it?



At least painting and decalling it will be relatively easy, since it's mainly large areas that need to be done.

Greyhawk
May 30, 2001


The Locator posted:

Is it 'motorized' with electric, or does it actually have a working steam engine?

Electric only, I'm afraid.

Boomer The Cannon
Oct 27, 2011

Gotta see it live!


Baronjutter posted:

gently caress mixing brands of track together, gently caress my soldering skills, and gently caress the fact that my fingers and now totally covered in CA to seal up all the tiny little cuts these bastard little shards of metal gave me. The trains run over it all fine and don't complain much and it won't look so bad once it's ballasted. But still, life is a nightmare.
Soldering sucks, man :smith::hf::smith: You have not lived until you're under your layout soldering DCC wiring, staring up at the pieces you're trying to solder, AND trying to get the flux to come in at just the right angle.

This model railroading business would be much easier without trains, scenery, track or wiring.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Boomer The Cannon posted:

Soldering sucks, man :smith::hf::smith: You have not lived until you're under your layout soldering DCC wiring, staring up at the pieces you're trying to solder, AND trying to get the flux to come in at just the right angle.

Flux paste is your friend! So much easier to use than liquid flux.

wtfbacon
Mar 26, 2015
I have flux paste, but soldering still sucks.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





So I picked up a new toy yesterday (cross posted from the tools thread):



So of course today I wanted to play with the new toy instead of working on the tiny blocks and getting the guns rigged, so I decided to make the bowsprit (or at least rough shape it). I got the dowel from the kit and turned it down to the right size, and wow, the dowel wood in the kit is terrible. It's supposed to be beech, but the grain is just huge and ugly. So I ran to Lowes and picked up some poplar dowels and square stock. After looking at both carefully, I decided that the grain and color of the square stock was better than the dowels, so I began the process of turning a piece of square wood into a round bowsprit.



The picture isn't the best at showing the difference, but the kit dowel bowsprit is the darker one at the top, and the poplar one I made from Lowe's wood is below. You can tell how huge and terrible the grain is though, and it looks a lot worse in person.


Test fitting on the ship. This is the main bowsprit, and it extends 8.5" in front of the ship (which is 14.75" long at the top rail). On top of the bowsprit, there will be a jib-boom which will extend another 4.5", so the entire bowsprit assembly is going to stick out 13", almost doubling the length of the ship!


You can also see in the photo that I've mounted the chimney for the ships stove.

Not going to finish the bowsprit now though, need to get a bunch of other stuff done before this actually goes on the ship, so back to the fiddly little blocks next.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

It's been years since I've actually built a plastic kit. It's been all my own laser poo poo, so building a kit is actually quite fun. Of course I had to bash it to make it less wide and taller but I think it's turning out ok. I mean as ok as just spray painting it a dark blue can be. Not sure how to weather it exactly, I have a bunch of powders I want to try but I also want the crane to look clean and well maintained. Also decals are fun, I forgot how much I like decals. Well when they are on flat glossy surfaces and easy to apply. Tiny little .5 x 2mm box car serial numbers, not so much fun.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

The Locator posted:

On the real ship the wheel works by pulling the rope around the barrel, and below the deck the rope is run through pulleys to the aft end of the ship where it's attached to a tiller which is attached to the top of the rudder. By rotating the barrel that the rope is on, it moves the tiller and the rudder.
'On the real ship'?? Sure sounds like you are saying you aren't planning on scratch building a dozen tiny pulleys. And to think, we all considered you to be detail oriented....

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The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Slugworth posted:

'On the real ship'?? Sure sounds like you are saying you aren't planning on scratch building a dozen tiny pulleys. And to think, we all considered you to be detail oriented....

Hah.. I would have had to build all that poo poo under the permanently installed deck. All so that my little wheel, which doesn't actually turn, could be connected to the rudder, which actually does turn, but who cares, since it will live it's life on a shelf to be looked at.

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