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Ashram
Oct 20, 2013
Maybe a bit random to post these here, but what the hell, there might still be people that have seen Destiny and don't know them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLJG0bxevek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOXEc8IsWD4

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Materant
Jul 22, 2010

see, what you don't understand is he now has

THE MANLIEST MUSTACHE

it defies physics


Ashram posted:

Maybe a bit random to post these here, but what the hell, there might still be people that have seen Destiny and don't know them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLJG0bxevek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOXEc8IsWD4

Probably the best things Destiny ever produced. :allears:

I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax

Broken Loose posted:

Just because it makes you upset doesn't mean anybody else actually cares.

It doesn't though? I literally just said it's hilarious. How hard can you project, dude?

Brunom1
Sep 5, 2011

Ask me about being the best dad ever.
And we’re back, having since dropped some angsty dead weight and picking up another pair of cool shades! We’ll look at Olson’s new ride later but, right now, we’ve 11 slots to fill and Renton’s deploying as an event unit.


  • Rand, Burume (Government), Rag
  • Baldios, Riea, Enil (Esperanza)
  • Kei, Maai, Adette (Rushrod)
  • Getter, Michiru, Tekkouki
  • Garrod, Jamil, Pala
  • Gain, Jiron, Dyke (Galapagos)
  • Duke, Hikaru, Sara (Mexbrute)
  • Gainer, Witz, Bello (Dobeck)
  • Roger, Löwen, Roybea
  • Apollo, Matthew, Gauli (Dobeck)
  • Holland, Olson, Hilda





Aboard the Gekko, Renton doesn’t fully understand that Eureka being a Coralian bit - she seems to him to be an ordinary girl.
He’d briefly considered taking her and running away, just the two of them, from all the mess in the world and settling down quietly to live. He concluded however, that that would be a mistake.
Just then Marin and Tekkouki come in, with the demon marveling at how “human-like” Eureka looks. As Renton bristles at his insinuation, Marin begs him to watch his words and Tekkouki apologizes.

Regardless, Marin says he’s here to offer both kids a word of appreciation as, though it shames him to admit it, he was both amazed and curious once he heard of Eureka’s nature – idiocy, he thinks, considering the problems he faced for being different as well.
But not Renton: he was probably the only one who didn’t change his outlook of Eureka after the revelation and this lesson, taught anew, is something Marin treasures. Same goes for Tekkouki as the more he sees of humans' bonds, their strength, the more he marvels.
Renton isn’t sure how to respond to this and he’s interrupted as everyone walks in to, also, pat him on the back for helping them see the truth in this matter.



Apollo brings in Eureka’s kiddies as well but their concern is not that she’s a Coralian but that she might go elsewhere. She assures them that she’s not going anywhere, though, and she’ll stay with them and Renton forever.
They’re all very happy to hear that and witnessing their love for their “mother” seems to give Ryouma an epiphany. When Sirius asks, he says this whole thing might be the crux of Fudou’s previous question of “what exists in-between two clasped hands”.
Marin thinks and sees that the union of two hands symbolizes the encounter of two different things, so Fudou’s question pertains to what is born from such an encounter. Hmm…

That said, Sirius points that it doesn’t necessarily mean that every single encounter of different beings will end as Renton and Eureka did. Indeed, there’s the war with the aliens, the Hundred Demons, the Fallen Angels…even the Earth and Spacenoids.
Of course, Kei says the Coralians are still an unknown because we don’t really know much about their nature – for instance, is that cloud-thing an ally or friend of Eureka? Does it speak? Does it have a will and emotions like her?

We don’t know but watching those two kids together gives Ryouma hope, especially knowing that there are even demons with hearts of their own like Tekkouki and Gyuukenki. He’ll fight the Coralians if they show themselves to be hostile but he thinks there’s a chance things won’t turn out that way.
Hayato smirks that Ryouma’s become real gentle after his initial hardass attitude and he says his outlook changed after everything he’s seen while travelling the world with us.


Apollo agrees and says that, whatever the Coralians are, he’ll at least keep looking out for Renton and Eureka. Kei’s right there with him, unwilling to let anyone mess up the good thing those two have cooking right there.
“Anyone who messes with someone else’s love, deserves to be kicked to death by US…or whatever they say!” Rand quips with his Heat Smile. That’s certainly a way of supporting them that only we can do, Sirius laughs.

Regardless, when Benkei asks about our destination, Hayato says this Tresor Institute is, apparently, a multi-disciplinary facility where we’re taking the Nirvash to receive some modifications.
Michiru finds it odd as it didn’t seem like the robot needed any repairs but, from what Marin’s heard from Jobs, it’s because Renton and Eureka said the Nirvash itself WANTS to grow. Very odd for a machine but Rand says that he’s felt something a bit off with it ever since Renton’s return... almost like it’s alive or something?
Seems like Holland had decided to head to that lab right after hearing this story, so why did he hold off on doing so until now? From what Rand’s heard, he’s not on the best of terms with the head of the lab and Apollo sighs at how self-centered the guy is with everything.



Still, Sirius wonders if any lab on Earth would receive wanted men like us but Rand's sure that their engineers' curiosity will outweigh any reservations they might have – especially considering that it appears Nirvash was born there in the first place.
Marin lowers his voice and says that Jobs and Woz seem to have sent some of Nirvash's data ahead to the lab and that was enough to get the OK to visit.
Renton for one hopes Nirvash can grow up at the lab, so it and he can do that much better a job of protecting Eureka. As per his promise to Ray and Charles, he’ll be true to himself and see things through.
Eureka seems a bit worried but, this time, it’s Renton’s turn to ask her to trust him.



Elsewhere, the strangely young Ageha Squad members report to Dewey that the AFX and its payload of “Orange” have reached the specified altitude.
Dewey tells them that the plan hasn't changed and, when he asks, they report no significant distortions of the dimensional walls or any Coralian activity detected – of course, that’s all expected.
What they need is to produce enough damage to push the Coralians into action – do it again and again and they’ll be able to pinpoint the location of both their core and this world’s “boundary”.
Thus, they begin the countdown to drop the Orange: “Let the curtain rise on the battle to save this world...” Dewey smirks.


: YES, MY LORD!



The citizens of some town have a ringing in their ears after a ray of light descended from the sky to the west. It's not another alien weapon, is it?
Strange "clouds" are appearing in the area…and are quickly followed by a huge mob of floating eyeballs and fish monsters who start blasting everything in sight.



Location: Southern South America – Tresor Institute



The first thing that happens after the ZEUTH reach the lab is that Holland and the chief scientist Morita get into a staring contest.
Hap says that Morita never liked Holland taking Eureka and Nirvash away from the lab - seems the facility had a lot invested in researching the world's first LFO and its Rider.
At length, Morita says that he's looked over the data from Holland's mechanics, but that's not why he's agreed to let Holland stop by: he's got other collaborators, sponsors really, who've told him about the Gekkostate's exploits, and asked him to take care of the outlaw crew.
Most of all, he did it because the Nirvash is the joint property of all mankind, not just Holland personally – thus, this institute will take any chances to reach out and study it.
Holland's not a fan of Morita’s research-centric rhetoric, but since their objectives happen to align, there's not much he can legitimately complain about for now.

Jamil intrudes, telling Morita that we also have our own reasons for coming here – specifically, concerning what Holland told us about this being a research institute for the study of Eureka and Coralians.
Morita seems slightly surprised at this but Holland said things have gotten past the point where he could keep it all limited to the Gekkostate. Furthermore, while this may be a bunch of vagrants and outlaws, he still vouches that we’re trustworthy in our own way.
Jiron and Rand don’t appreciate him insinuating that he’s an innocent bystander in this crew of “vagrants and outlaws” and Holland quickly blusters that they’ve all been like that since way before they even met.



Regardless, his attitude is ample proof to Morita of how at ease he is with us - he tells the team to carry Nirvash to the lab, after which he'll discuss the Coralian question. He asks after Nirvash's rider and Renton introduces himself, leaving the guy very surprised that he is, indeed, Axel’s grandson and Adroc’s son.
His engineer's blood is now boiling, and he makes an abrupt PA announcement that work is now to proceed around the clock.
Talho notes that Morita is as enthusiastic as ever and Mischa wonders if he was spurred on by Holland's own resolve in taking responsibility.

Talho will now need to accept Eureka just as Holland’s accepted Renton but she’s having trouble taking everything in: she didn’t want him to keep running away from the truth but that doesn’t mean she wanted him to take responsibility for anything, either… she just wanted Holland to stay as he was.
If she’s thought things this far, Mischa suggests there’s no need for her to keep dressing as she always has. Papty agrees, saying Talho, too, should be more honest with her own feelings.
She agrees with both women and, considering how dense Holland is, Talho thinks that it might just be time to rip that metaphorical band-aid off in one go.



Just then, Sonya runs over and says that the Feds have an important broadcast concerning what they say is a threat to all mankind… the broadcaster’s Dewey Novak, finally taking the spotlight in person.
Holland is not happy and asks Shaia to gather everyone to see whatever it is the guy’s going to say.
As they leave, Sonya turns her attention to Eureka and is glad to see that she’s doing well after all this time. She introduces herself to Renton as the head of R&D for the institute and Eureka adds that she was the one who first extracted her for the Scub Coral and brought her here.
She tells Eureka and Renton that they too should go listen to the broadcast, which might just pertain to them. Renton has a pretty good idea that it’ll have to do with the Coralians…



quote:

To all who are watching this transmission: my name is Colonel Dewey Novak, commander of the New Earth Federation Army’s Ageha Squadron.
I stand here before you, bearing a truth that MUST be revealed. The truth is not always pleasant - sometimes it is harsh, painful - but we must still face it. Because it IS the truth!
Citizens, behold!



:

quote:

This is a video from a few days ago, when an enemy of all of mankind razed an entire town to the ground. Look at it! This is our present, a calamity that is happening in our world right as we speak! But it did not begin today, no!
This world has long since been threatened by the unknown life forms called Coralians! And, yet, the Sage Council had concealed this fact! Why?!
Because it frightened them! Because they were powerless to stop it!
Do we have no choice before this menace but to wait for death to claim us…? The answer is no! Absolutely not!
I am NOT those foolish men of the Sage Council with their secrecy, festering in their powerlessness! I say the world will not end – absolutely not!
We’ll use fire against fire! If the enemy holds absolute power, we shall fight back in the same measure!
The war against the space colonists, the threat of external enemies, including the aliens…it is power that’ll put an end to it all! Humanity has no future without power – it is with power that we’ll carve our path towards it!
It is for that reason that the Federal army exists. The Ageha Squadron’s purpose is to be our final ray of hope – just the same for its beautiful goddess of war, Anemone!

: Hello!

:bravo: :bravo: :bravo:

:

quote:

...It was not I who hypothesized this state of affairs and created this group to combat the Coralians! Who was it...? The hero who saved the “Promised Land”, the world that is now part of this one – Adroc!
He foresaw the Coralians’ attack and bequeathed unto us his insight, the Ageha Project, to see us through it!

:

quote:

People of the world, these revelations are the truth. It is expected that many of you are confused after hearing this…however, know that the New Earth Federation swears to safeguard your future.
The Federal Army, cradle of Col. Novak and the Ageha Squadron, will eliminate all threats and build a lasting peace in our world! Mankind must now unite!
The New Earth Federation is the true leadership of this world and it shall guide humanity towards prosperity!

:bravo: :bravo: :bravo:

: ...




Our people are quite surprised with these revelations. So, those balloon-like things that attacked that town were also Coralians? Holland is pissed the hell off with Dewey’s act as, Hap remembers, even in their world, the Coralians’ very existence was highly classified.
Revealing it all in one fell swoop is yet another bid to gain influence over the increasingly credulous masses…even Roger has to admit that’s a pretty smart move. Stoner’s worried now as, if this turns into an information war, there’s no way their self-published ray=out magazine can compete with the Federation’s propaganda machinery.

This seems to mean that Stoner’s job is done as he joined the Gekkostate in a bid to help Holland’s goal of telling the truth to the people. Mel’s dejected but he tells her to keep her chin up as there are certainly some other hidden truths out there – he’s sure she understands that, given how she’s writing that notebook with all the new stuff she learns daily to eventually show her dad.
So, he’ll do the same and record the struggles of not just the Gekkostate but of ZEUTH as a whole. Holland says he can’t guarantee the guy’s safety but Stoner says that’s the way it goes for all of us.
He’ll decide for himself how he wants to life his life and Holland’s glad to hear that.



Either way, seems to Jamil that this broadcast will fully consolidate the people’s support of the Federation – understandable, Sara thinks, considering what they were shown – but Garrod still has a lot of questions about those Coralian monsters.
Tifa glares at him (!) and he quickly apologizes to Eureka, saying he misspoke.
Still, Eureka understands considering all the people who died because of the Coralian attack. She asks Renton what she should - or what she CAN – do now but doesn’t seem to have any answers.
Gainer’s on the same page as Garrod, still at a loss as to what the Coralians are: are she, that cloud-thing and the balloon creatures all the same thing?



Indeed, says a huge scientist man. Jiron asks who it is and when did he board the Gekko but the guy is more interested in how tasty Gonzy’s tea is.
Enil wonders who the “teddybear”-like man is but Jobs and Woz recognize him as Professor Greg Egan – the world’s top researcher on LFO Archetypes. And, by the by, his appearance has earned him the nickname of Dr. Bear.

Jobs says he’s given to fits of locking himself in his lab for days at a time but his publications are top class – to the point where Jobs has to admit that very few people can actually understand what his papers are about.
Pala, Sara and Gidget have a hard time believing they’re talking about this guy right here and Jobs is quickly annoyed at their “disrespect”. The fact that the cool-headed engineer got so incensed at this perceived insult, if anything, quickly gives Rand an idea of just how impressive this guy must be.

Either way, Greg was watching the transmission as well and is quite amazed that the Federation would forcibly awaken the Antibodies – and, yes, he means Antibodies like the medical term for a body's defense system.
Jamil asks that he tells us more about those things but he tells him to wait a second…while he turns to Mischa and tells his WIFE how happy he is to see her again! She sighs that he hasn’t changed at all and asks if he’s forgotten that they’re divorced.



Everyone’s a bit blown away by this and Mischa takes Kei’s surprise as a compliment. Greg notes that, while Mischa’s as pretty as ever, Eureka seems to have changed much since the last time he saw her.
Holland pokes the guy and asks him to please give us the rundown on those Antibodies but Greg wants us to give him a bit more time to finish his current research – he tells Morita that there seems to be some connection between the Scub Coral and this world’s dimensional walls.

Kei’s surprised and asks how there’s a connection between the stuff that comprised the surface of Holland’s old world and something like that. That’s exactly why Greg wants us to sit for a bit.
It won’t be long before his research is wrapped up and, in the meantime, they can go on ahead with Nirvash’s upgrade – he reckons he’ll be able to tells us some stuff by the time that’s done.
Holland resigns himself to waiting when Morita tells him to gather the ZEUTH leaders and come to his office. If Greg’s hypothesis is correct, the means the Feds used to awaken the Antibodies was… a space-time oscillation bomb!



Mission 39 - Start It Up



The Ageha are at it again, detecting no distortions in the dimensional walls - five minutes until the AFX begins its ascent with its Orange cargo.
Jürgens wants to know what the hell an "Orange" is, but Dominic tells him it's a military secret and not something he can discuss. Jürgens won’t simply take that answer: every time he's seen one of these things launched, Coralians haven't been far behind, and in their wake, tens of thousands of people have died.
Dominic reminds him that their orders are to guard the AFX and to investigate any Coralians that appear. Jürgens isn’t stupid and has already realized that the AFX and its cargo's sole purpose is to trigger the Coralians’ appearance but, again, Dominic says “classified”.

The Ageha kiddies notice Dominic’s angry tone and ask if he, too, has issues with the operation. Of course he does and asks if they actually think this is the right thing to do – do they mean to say that these sacrifices are unavoidable?
Indeed, they say this isn’t a decision Dewey took lightly but they’re confident that one or two cities are a small price to pay in order to safeguard our future. Dominic still isn’t happy but, when he can’t suggest another way of locating the Coralians’ core, is forced to stay mum.
Either way, the blonde kid takes the time to say that he needn’t worry as there aren’t any cities near this detonation site.



Anemone’s very irked at having to work with these annoying weirdos and wonders why Dewey felt the need to bring them over – especially when she’s always been so helpful.
No time for that, though, as the radar quickly pings ZEUTH coming over, having been sent after this group by Morita. Jamil quickly spots the UAV ahead and figures it’s carrying the oscillation bomb and, from what Morita’s told us, its purpose is simply to cause a small, localized dimensional quake.
Of course, we’ve no idea WHY they’d use such methods to spawn the Antibodies but Ryouma figures it might have something to do with the fact that the Kute Coralian was distorting the dimensional walls around it.
Rand says we can get those answers from Dr. Bear once he’s done his thing and Holland agrees – our priority here is to stop that bomber.



Blondie isn’t having it, and asks Dominic and his troops to keep our people busy until the operation begins. Neither he nor Jürgens are happy but orders are orders, so they deploy their units.
The kiddies pull back as the bomber quickly starts its ascent and there’s no way Talho can have the Gekko chase after it. Regardless, Jürgens gives the order to attack and Anemone’s sniffs that she’s dealing with this side of ZEUTH today. She asks Dominic if, this time, it’s OK for her to go all out and he allows it.
Anenome is disappointed that the “look-alike” isn’t here but she has a new technique with her The End that she’s very eager to show us.

Renton’s at the Gekko and immediately recognizes her but Garrod tells him to stay in there and just cheer us on – Jobs says that, while the Nirvash’s modifications are already done, they’ve yet to receive its new Lift Board.
The kid finds it odd that a place like Tresor couldn’t just make the thing in-house but it seems Morita decided to hand over that job to someone trustworthy. It shouldn’t be too long now, Woz thinks, so they just need to be patient.
“Wait just a bit more, Nirvash… You’ll be able to fly very soon…”, Eureka says.



Meanwhile, Olson checks out his Orguss II, and loves the hybrid of the Emaanian device and the old Broncos – it’s the perfect unit for him.
Kei’s already psyched to bust out some of their old tag-team tricks after all this time.
Holland gives everyone the order to attack, telling them to try and down these guys so we can try and get them to spill the beans on what Dewey’s after.



Destroy everything, don’t lose any ships. The Skill Point is hidden but, this time, there’s no hidden timer on it for us to contend with!
That said, this doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t be smart about this – Anemone is your primary target and she’ll always prioritize the Gekko, so use it as bait to lure her in and take her out by turn 3.

FYI: Anemone’s The End has been upgraded. On top of bigger stats and a +200 attack boost to her previous moves, she now has a new attack called “Gagundora” (I don’t know either – it IS written ガグンドゥーラ) which is, like the Vascud Crisis, a pre-movement ALL attack. It’s stronger, has a 1-8 range and will stun your units if it hits, so make sure to use Sense, Alert or attack with Rand who’s immune.


Finally, the coup has given the Ageha some new toys in the form of these VC-10. A direct upgrade to the Mon-soono 20 in all categories, these are made of sturdier stuff but, overall, still aren’t anything worrisome.



After tagging Anemone’s range on the ground, we get to work. Sirius pops some damage on this closer Mon-soono batch and leaves it prepped for Gainer.








Two out of three, and Rand quickly moves in to dispatch the remaining one.





Moving northward, Kei slaps this group that made the poor choice of being in Center formation in his vicinity.



Time for Olson to grab his first kill.








The damage is much less than what we’re used to with Kei but he still gets the job done.

Also, here’s a closer look at his new toy:


Orguss II (Olson D. Verne)
Pilot Skills:
  • Support Attack L3
  • Cooperative Attack (連携攻撃) – support attacks are guaranteed to crit.
  • Support Defend L2
Spirit Commands:
  • Focus
  • Accelerate
  • Analyze
  • Sense
Olson’s Squad Leader Bonus: Evasion rate +20%
Olson’s Voice Actor: Kenyuu Horiuchi (Originally Hirotaka Suzuouki but, with his passing, we now have Jamil voicing his twin brother)

Certainly not as broken as Kei, Olson is still competent enough to fall into that sub-leader group with Holland and Gain (natural support and cooperative attack, obviously, makes him a good supporter). Orguss II is essentially Orguss with a different head, meaning it’s a great mook hunter but, without Kei’s boosts, it’ll fall behind against bosses.
Accel and flight capabilities means it already has a place as a squaddie but, if you need more, know that Kei’s line about their teamwork wasn’t just a random quip – they can both bust out the Orguss Combination attack and it’s pretty drat good.


With that done, everyone else moves forward.



Enemy Phase!





Marin takes out Olson’s survivor and Kei, meanwhile, is attacked and leaves another batch of Mon-soonos ripe for reaping.





If it wasn’t clear by now, the Mon-soono 20s have all been buffed which means we can’t oneshot them even with a crit…
Gainer also gets jumped by one of the VC-10 groups and weakens the leader slightly.



The squaddies are still baseline Mon-soono 10s, though.














Which means Rand’s TRI is barely enough to wreck one of them.



Ah, now I showcase the VC-10’s attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7fKEPry2RE
Hmm, Armored Core does have these hover-pod legs but does it have guns like these? Been years since I played one…

Anemone’s already coming over.



Player Phase!






Oooh, nice.
Nearby, Jiron switches over and TRIs one of Gainer’s attackers – the leader gets downed.



Olson, meanwhile, will wrap up what Kei’s started while also giving us a show of his Full Volley attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPFYqsSG9-o



Hilda also takes a level in Lift Technique from this.



Down south, Elchi’s just weakened them RV-10s a bit more. Hopefully, Duke can cover the rest.








Fine, fine.


Apollo and Roger both follow up on Jiron and Duke’s targets, killing the leaders.



Garrod needs a few kills for levels, so let’s feed him these.








Nice and easy.




Marin takes out the last of Jiron’s RV-10s while Gainer works on these fresh Mon-soonos.



Get to it, Ryouma.








There go all three.



Talho takes out that solo RV-10 and sets herself right outside of Anemone’s range. Knowing that the AI won’t resist that bait, Rand’s free to hop in the area and kill two more Mon-soonos.



Enemy Phase!



Garrod, Ryouma, Gainer and Duke all get jumped by healthy groups.










No kills but they weaken the leaders. Also, that was an 86% hit that Duke dodged.



And Anemone takes the bait, dealing not insignificant damage to a defending Gekko (which’ll be healed by the Freeden real soon).



Player Phase!

Let’s focus on Anemone as she’s the much bigger threat and is standing right in our face (her position also really helps Olson support).




: It’s that stifling guy! You’re super gross!
: Still don’t get the charm of a grown man, eh?! This girl needs a spanking!
: That’s sexual harassment, Darling!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZH01PRUrzQ
Here’s her new attack, too, which I’ll refer to Bahaluc Swell from now on because that’s a much simpler name.




: Outta my way! Else I’m gonna pluck those dreads right off!
: I'm outmatched in maneuverability, so I’ll take her on with flexibility! I’ve got to pull this off for my bro!









: Renton and Eureka ain’t here, so I’ll deal with you in their place!
: Well, aren’t we gutsy? Playing with me is gonna leave you in itty-bitty pieces, though!















: You’re Dewey’s little trump card, eh? Then, I’ll end you as my declaration of war to him!
: This moron actually thinks he has a chance against me…?!
: Sorry, girlie. But, when the chips are down, I don’t hold back even against women and kids!










https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf1Q9bcLtfw
How about we end this by showcasing our newest weapon?


: Urgh! You jerks! How dare you!
: That’s enough, Anemone! Retreat!
: No way! Do you know how much sass I'll get from those guys if I go back like this?!



: Anemone!
: Talho! That Black KLF’s coming for us!
: Hrm…!
: Talho!


*The Gekko tries escaping but Anemone runs them down.*

: The Gekko Go--!
: Ha! Not good enough!
: What’s going on, Talho?! Your reaction-time’s sluggish!
: ...!
: Help her, Garrod!
: I can’t even keep up with that Nirvash-like bot! drat it!

*Beep, beep.*

: Huh…?!
: What is it, Gidget?!
: It’s a transmission telling us to launch the Nirvash!
: Now?!
: The transmission was sent from a carrier and it’s headed this way!



: Renton Thurston! I’ve got a delivery from Axel with me! Come get it!!
: That carrier…it’s launching a Lift Board?!
: Here we go, Eureka!
: Right!
: Another pest?!
: Die, all of you! Die! DIIIEEE!!


Gotta love FLOW.



: Whoa! This is the Spec 2? It’s awesome!
: What the hell is that?!
: The new Nirvash equipped that board?!
: Get to it, Renton! Show us the embodiment of your love!
: Say what, Darling?!
: Let’s go, Renton!
: Yeah, together!



: A Seven Swell?!
: No, this light ain’t that! It’s--!
: What’s going on?! There’s no way something like that’s taking us down!!
: RAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCKEaPuCfeo


: What?! WHAT?!! NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!



: ANEMONE!!
: All units, retreat! The Izumo’ll recover The End!



: Haa…haa…
: Renton…
: We flew, Eureka…you, me and Nirvash flew together…!
: The Nirvash transformed…
: Like Doc Bear said, looks like that’s the result of Renton, Eureka and the Nirvash’s wishes.
: And they all wanted to fly together.
: Their feelings have taken shape.
: I’m so happy for you, Eureka…
: Ah!
: What is it, Jabby?!
: Space-time is…trembling!



: I’m picking it up with Baldios’ sensors, too!
: A tiny dimensional quake and one of those cloud Coralians have materialized about 20 kilometers north of here!
: The quake started after something was dropped into that area!
: It’s called an Orange or something! That’s what shook the dimensional walls!
: Aah…aaah…
: Eureka…? Hang in there, Eureka!
: They’re coming…!



: It’s those Antibody Coralians!
: So they really did pop out after one of those Oranges got dropped!
: Heads up, people! Looks like they’re coming for us!
: What do we do, Eureka…?!
: …
: If these are “antibodies” like Dr. Bear said…it might be best to say that their aggressiveness is more like an “instinct” than actual intent.
: Yes…
: Which means these things are gonna attack whatever’s close?!
: ZEUTH, please respond! This is Hayato Kobayashi of Karaba.
: The AEUG’s Earth-based supporters?!
: That’s right. By General Blex’s instructions, we operate on a separate chain of command from the Argama.
: I see! So you and your group are the collaborators Morita told us about.
: I’ll leave the situation here in your hands, while I head back to Tresor to inform them of what’s going on.
: Understood. Be safe.



: Let’s do this, guys! There’s no other way!
: Who knows how much damage this swarm’ll cause to the nearby areas if we let them leave…! We need to hold them here, no matter what!
: Talk’s cheap, man! Fighting this many enemies at once isn’t your everyday job!
: Then we just keep going until we can’t fight anymore! Time to give them a show of our guts!
: You sure about this, Eureka?
: Yes…



Mission Objective: Shoot down all enemies.
Mission Failure: Any allied ship shot down.
Skill Point: Shoot down all Coralians within three turns of their appearance.
Not difficult, especially considering most of your troops should be relatively close to the NW side of the map if you’ve allowed Anemone to get close as I suggested.
The Coralians are also on the NE side but, well…


Nirvash Spec 2 (Renton Thurston, Eureka)
Pilot Skills:
  • Lift Technique L5
  • Prevail L7
  • Morale Limit Break
Spirit Commands:
  • Invincible
  • Gain
  • Strike
  • Valor
Renton’s Squad Leader Bonus: Entire squad gains the effect of Morale+ (Dodge)
Renton’s Voice Actress: Yuko Sanpei (other known works: Afuro in Inazuma Eleven, Nozomi in Precure All Stars and several others).

Is it OK if Renton becomes death, the destroyer of worlds? The Spec 2 takes an pretty good machine and makes it broken, providing a boost to pretty much all stats as well as an increase to every single attack (+200 to the Boomerang Knife and TRI, +300 to the Cut-Back Drop Turn and +400 to the Assault – this is HUGE).
But, of course, this is not what’d make it worthy of being called “broken” – that is due to the fact that it can now trigger a Seven Swell MAP with a 1-6 range, enormous accuracy and high attack power (bolstered by a natural S rating in air)!

Of course, offsetting all that means giving it an enormous cost: it has friendly fire, takes 120 EN, has only one ammo and requires 150 morale to use. Hiver never had to deal with stuff like this!
Mind, Renton’s leader bonus allows him to pick a second morale+ skill on that free slot, so he’ll naturally gain morale faster and there are plenty of ways to recharge the Nirvash’s EN and ammo, so it’s up to you to curb yourself if you don’t want Renton to cut a bloody swathe across the remaining missions (I tried my best to do so on my first playthrough and he still ended up as my top ace, followed by Kei)!



We’ll handle the rest of the mission come next Thursday, where I’ll start forcing the International Court of Justice to create a new Nirvash file.

See you all then!

Brunom1 fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jul 20, 2016

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

And the reckoning begins...:unsmigghh:

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.
So, Z-2-1 doesn't get far enough for Orange to show up, but here he is, space-time is really hosed up, Rand finally became stifling instead of stuff, and Renton learned how to Chaos Dunk.
Good times.

Broken Loose
Dec 25, 2002

PROGRAM
A > - - -
LR > > - -
LL > - - -
"Hey guys, why is my dad being mentioned by the Illuminati in a global tv broadcast? Somebody want to tell me literally anything?"

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

Another Eureka 7 focused update another annoying baseless criticism from Broken Loose.

Brunom1
Sep 5, 2011

Ask me about being the best dad ever.

Broken Loose posted:

"Hey guys, why is my dad being mentioned by the Illuminati in a global tv broadcast? Somebody want to tell me literally anything?"

Well, Talho DID tell him much at the end of 38: his dad's work for the army, his theory about the Scub Coral and whatnot.

Considering the guy's a hero in the E7 world and pretty much wrote the book on the things, it makes sense they'd namedrop him to garner support.

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

Brunom1 posted:

Thus, they begin the countdown to drop the Orange: “Let the curtain rise on the battle to save this world...”, Dewey smirks.


: YES, MY LORD!


Oi! You've shown up way too early; go back to Z2 :argh:

Brunom1 posted:

Hmm, Armored Core does have these hover-pod legs but does it have guns like these? Been years since I played one…

The answer to that is "kind of."

Armored Core games do have gun-arms, but they don't have the ability to switch back to a regular hand form.

Broken Loose
Dec 25, 2002

PROGRAM
A > - - -
LR > > - -
LL > - - -

Brunom1 posted:

Well, Talho DID tell him much at the end of 38: his dad's work for the army, his theory about the Scub Coral and whatnot.

Considering the guy's a hero in the E7 world and pretty much wrote the book on the things, it makes sense they'd namedrop him to garner support.

It absolutely works better for the audience in SRW, since due to the whole multiworld thing it doesn't seem like the writers are maliciously withholding important details from the audience. In the base material, he's an international hero because fractions of a flashback and nobody actually mentions any details (not exclusive to the Thurstons, given that there are several sloppy villain conversations where they call key people THAT PERSON over and over again).

Conversely, the SRW version suffers here due to the entire cast subscribing to Renton Uncuriousity Illness. Earlier in the story, Bright Noa was the one who started demanding answers when the cast was being needless cryptic. Currently, Rand isn't bothering to be the slightest bit curious about his mechanic friend's father and his other mechanic friend's son, Garrod isn't wondering at all about his bff's dad being on a State of the Union address, and Gainer hasn't bothered to speak up to the others about seeing his buddy's dad prominently featured on the internet.

Call me pedantic, but it's absolutely not baseless. It feels malicious and tedious to the audience who is clearly watching the writers TRY to manipulate them but fail. It's like a magic show where between tricks the lights go out and a bunch of stage hands bring out a bunch of equipment poorly hidden by scenery to be used in the next trick.

8_Escape
Dec 26, 2013
So Kei and Olson can do one of those buddy-cop movie hand-clasps with their machines while Renton can chaos dunk now.
...
:allears:

Brunom1
Sep 5, 2011

Ask me about being the best dad ever.

Broken Loose posted:

It absolutely works better for the audience in SRW, since due to the whole multiworld thing it doesn't seem like the writers are maliciously withholding important details from the audience. In the base material, he's an international hero because fractions of a flashback and nobody actually mentions any details (not exclusive to the Thurstons, given that there are several sloppy villain conversations where they call key people THAT PERSON over and over again).

Conversely, the SRW version suffers here due to the entire cast subscribing to Renton Uncuriousity Illness. Earlier in the story, Bright Noa was the one who started demanding answers when the cast was being needless cryptic. Currently, Rand isn't bothering to be the slightest bit curious about his mechanic friend's father and his other mechanic friend's son, Garrod isn't wondering at all about his bff's dad being on a State of the Union address, and Gainer hasn't bothered to speak up to the others about seeing his buddy's dad prominently featured on the internet.

What reason would they have to think there was more in there - or, even, why should the viewers think that? We've already seen the Feds' penchant for manipulating information after the Chiram debacle so them using his name to garner support is very understandable and, as you mentioned, there hasn't been a single scene in this game with an Adroc flashback or any mention outside of the fact that he A) was the hero who saved the Promised Land in the Summer of Love, B) Researched the Coralians for the Feds and opposed their wish to destroy them and C) is dead.

Anyone in that situation wouldn't have a reason to think much on this matter as there are no red flags.

Finally, I think you might be misremembering something because Gainer never found - or even searched - for Adroc-related stuff in the UN. Everything we've Googled thus far has either been ZEUTH, the Federation, porn, Mel, Cielo or Quattro Char.

Broken Loose
Dec 25, 2002

PROGRAM
A > - - -
LR > > - -
LL > - - -

Brunom1 posted:

What reason would they have to think there was more in there - or, even, why should the viewers think that? We've already seen the Feds' penchant for manipulating information after the Chiram debacle so them using his name to garner support is very understandable and, as you mentioned, there hasn't been a single scene in this game with an Adroc flashback or any mention outside of the fact that he A) was the hero who saved the Promised Land in the Summer of Love, B) Researched the Coralians for the Feds and opposed their wish to destroy them and C) is dead.

Anyone in that situation wouldn't have a reason to think much on this matter as there are no red flags.

Finally, I think you might be misremembering something because Gainer never found - or even searched - for Adroc-related stuff in the UN. Everything we've Googled thus far has either been ZEUTH, the Federation, porn, Mel, Cielo or Quattro Char.

Re: Information manipulation. You're absolutely right. I was wrong. That's been a really notable thing over the plot of this game (that E7 lacked) and it would easily counter my criticisms.

The phrase "hero who saved the Promised Land in the Summer of Love" is loving terrible, though. It's a meaningless word salad that doesn't describe ANYTHING. Now would be the perfect time for literally anybody in the cast to act like a real human being and ask what the gently caress is going on.

Also, I mentioned Gainer not searching Adroc specifically because he hasn't yet done so. Would Gainer be the type of person who would leave this sort of thing hanging especially after it's already been mentioned before Dewey's broadcast? The E7 plot severely lacks object permanence. They looked up Char, who is a similarly notable historical figure (and they also looked up Kira Yamato and Arthur Rank for the same reason). Why does The Hero Who Saved The World in the 9/11 get a pass, or even 9/11 in this instance?

Brunom1
Sep 5, 2011

Ask me about being the best dad ever.

Broken Loose posted:

The phrase "hero who saved the Promised Land in the Summer of Love" is loving terrible, though. It's a meaningless word salad that doesn't describe ANYTHING. Now would be the perfect time for literally anybody in the cast to act like a real human being and ask what the gently caress is going on.

Also, I mentioned Gainer not searching Adroc specifically because he hasn't yet done so. Would Gainer be the type of person who would leave this sort of thing hanging especially after it's already been mentioned before Dewey's broadcast? The E7 plot severely lacks object permanence. They looked up Char, who is a similarly notable historical figure (and they also looked up Kira Yamato and Arthur Rank for the same reason). Why does The Hero Who Saved The World in the 9/11 get a pass, or even 9/11 in this instance?

Hmm...OK, I can concede a bit on the first point that the events surrounding the Summer of Love haven't really been fleshed out in here aside from a small tidbit revealed in one of the key-word logs (aside from it being about an outburst of Trapars, it's even pointed out that many mysteries remain). That said, info available here is bound to the original anime script, where the event was always left with a lot of questions hanging for a long time, so Banpresto couldn't really go into detail lest they risk screwing with the plot flow.

However, we can't really say that any significant information regarding Adroc is readily available for Gainer to look for aside from what is common knowledge. The UN is months old and Coralian stuff is HIGHLY classified so even if Gainer tried to look for him, he wouldn't have found much - I doubt detailed information on the Summer of Love would be available either.

Kira, Arthur and the others aren't tagged as military secrets and were big public figures or major war-time characters, so you could easily find stuff about them if you looked.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug

8_Escape posted:

So Kei and Olson can do one of those buddy-cop movie hand-clasps with their machines while Renton can chaos dunk now.
...
:allears:

It is so great :allears:

Also more than just their weapons, it's the overall design aesthetic of the fed LFOs that remind me of Armored Core. Plus Geckostate does the PS1-PS2 era "Brace your shoulder laser with a hand" deal. It all adds up more than just their missile launchers or heads looking a certain way.

Of course, considering Armored Core's design style is "Mass produced interchangeable parts", I would not be surprised if my outlook is highly biased and I'm basically going "That pixel art reminds me of Legos"

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer
Yeah, I'll stand up for E7 any day but I've gotta agree that throughout the show does a really poor job of explaining what the hell the Summer of Love really was or how Adroc averted it. And Renton seems really uninterested in how his father is the man who saved the world (but then I'll give him kind of a pass because he's a sullen teenager, not giving a poo poo about anything is kind of your job at that age).


Also I got really excited for a second because I jumped the gun and thought this was the part where Anemone was going to blow up Holland and then he'd get the Devilfish. God that's a cool mech.

TwoPair fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jun 17, 2015

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Aw yeah, Seven Swell time mother fuckers. God that move just ruins entire maps of enemies with a little setup.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

Seven Swell is disgustingly overpowered yes.

I've only felt the need to use it once thus far because otherwise Renton just saps away all the kills and PP.

Wounded Land
Nov 27, 2007
Living in a greenhouse, growing crops that we can't eat...
Oh man, I forgot how amazing the Orguss Assault is, not least because of the PS1-style cut-ins :D
Also, is Anenome's control interface for THE END a Coralian?

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Dr Pepper posted:

Seven Swell is disgustingly overpowered yes.

I've only felt the need to use it once thus far because otherwise Renton just saps away all the kills and PP.

I used it pretty frequently in my last playthrough - once you hit the last third of the game and start going after a ton of finales one after another, I found being able to just say "seeya later shitlords" to an entire corner of the map to be pretty useful. Plus, you know, the visceral thrill of watching a whole shitload of enemies explode one at a time.

Caphi
Jan 6, 2012

INCREDIBLE
I saw "Renton is auto-deploying" and for a split second I thought "oh god no." Z2 :argh:

Do make sure to have Luck/Bless with your Soul Seven Swell.

Brunom1
Sep 5, 2011

Ask me about being the best dad ever.

Caphi posted:

I saw "Renton is auto-deploying" and for a split second I thought "oh god no." Z2 :argh:

Do make sure to have Luck/Bless with your Soul Seven Swell.

I feel you...curse that movie.

And Renton's last spirit is Courage, not Soul! I guess someone thought THAT would be overpowered.

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010


It's kind of weird that he gets Courage and not Love. Unfortunate too because Love is better.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
Welp, that's the game, see you all for Z2-2!

Seriously once you get the Seven Swell the game becomes a walk in the park. See all those Coralians? It's possible to bunch them all up into Seven Swell range. Renton can end this map and get the mastery all by himself.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
So... this new government's first action is to deliberately destroy one of their own cities by lobbing a bomb into an adjacent dimension and letting the city eat the retaliation.

I guess they wanted to make it real clear who you were suposed to root for here.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Glazius posted:

So... this new government's first action is to deliberately destroy one of their own cities by lobbing a bomb into an adjacent dimension and letting the city eat the retaliation.

I guess they wanted to make it real clear who you were suposed to root for here.

Dewey really wants to kill those Coralians, even if that means wiping out literally all other humans.

thetruegentleman
Feb 5, 2011

You call that potato a Trump avatar?

THIS is a Trump Avatar!

Onmi posted:

Dewey really wants to kill those Coralians, even if that means wiping out literally all other humans.

This is why Scirocco teamed up with Dewey: Scirocco thought Dewey meant something completely different when he said that he wanted to "kill all the scrubs". It also probably helped that they both have a teenage girl obsessed over them, although Dewey has an actual reason to being doing it other than being creepy, which would no doubt be disappointing to Scirocco.

I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax

thetruegentleman posted:

This is why Scirocco teamed up with Dewey: Scirocco thought Dewey meant something completely different when he said that he wanted to "kill all the scrubs"

Hahaha, I love it

Wounded Land
Nov 27, 2007
Living in a greenhouse, growing crops that we can't eat...
I would not be surprised if Scirocco was completely cool with "kill all humans on Earth" if he had enough time to scoop up his dozen favorite aimless women and go back to Jupiter to chill.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
Fun thing, different game, the ultimate reward for staying lawful in Gihren's Greed on the Federation side is Scirroco staying loyal to General Revil.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Wounded Land posted:

I would not be surprised if Scirocco was completely cool with "kill all humans on Earth" if he had enough time to scoop up his dozen favorite aimless women and go back to Jupiter to chill.

I still like that to this day no one is entirely sure what Scirocco's goals ever were beyond "Get bitches, gently caress ballas, look smug."

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Didn't he just want to rule the world?

Pretty generic but hey it's not a bad goal.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

BlitzBlast posted:

Didn't he just want to rule the world?

Pretty generic but hey it's not a bad goal.

HE basically wants to do what the Victory Gundam guy wound up doing. create a queen he can manipulate all while talking a good game about how she's really the ruler. Scirroco isn't the guy who shows his face, he lets someone else show his face

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

I was talking more about the why. I mean yeah, Scirocco wants to be big dog in the Earth sphere, but why? Zeon leaders alternate between incredible racism, pure self-interest, and revolutionary fervor, the Feddies and titans have some juicy racism of their own and a love of the status quo, Char's Counterattack-era Char wants to force newtypism through violence, but what does Scirocco plan to actually do once he rules the world? No one really knows. But it probably involves a smug grin and lots of harem girls.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Spiritus Nox posted:

I was talking more about the why. I mean yeah, Scirocco wants to be big dog in the Earth sphere, but why? Zeon leaders alternate between incredible racism, pure self-interest, and revolutionary fervor, the Feddies and titans have some juicy racism of their own and a love of the status quo, Char's Counterattack-era Char wants to force newtypism through violence, but what does Scirocco plan to actually do once he rules the world? No one really knows. But it probably involves a smug grin and lots of harem girls.

Some men just think they're better than you. They don't have to have a plan or a goal outside of their own superiority.

Jegan
Nov 5, 2009

Onmi posted:

Fun thing, different game, the ultimate reward for staying lawful in Gihren's Greed on the Federation side is Scirroco staying loyal to General Revil.

Not really? My understanding is that if you delay wiping out Axis Zeon long enough, he'll join Revil and stay with him, but if the Titans are fully autonomous (enemies) when he shows up, he'll always join them. At which Revil needs to be pretty evil for him to join once the Titans are wiped out.

On the other hand, Lawful Jamitov doesn't need to worry about being betrayed by Scirocco, but only if you have Bask assassinated when he asks.

And here's his outfit when he joins Revil directly. Kind of looks like a Titans uniform to me.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Jegan posted:

Not really? My understanding is that if you delay wiping out Axis Zeon long enough, he'll join Revil and stay with him, but if the Titans are fully autonomous (enemies) when he shows up, he'll always join them. At which Revil needs to be pretty evil for him to join once the Titans are wiped out.

On the other hand, Lawful Jamitov doesn't need to worry about being betrayed by Scirocco, but only if you have Bask assassinated when he asks.

And here's his outfit when he joins Revil directly. Kind of looks like a Titans uniform to me.


Nope, certain pilots defect no matter what at certain points, for Revil at 100 Law Scirocco will always defect even from the Titans. Unless something from Threat of Axis V has come to light since my play throughs

Brunom1
Sep 5, 2011

Ask me about being the best dad ever.
Gotta post this now before the thread flips to a new page!


Quick look at the Antibodies: these things are glass cannons, every single one of them.
No special tricks outside of a 10% HP regen and a basic attack – said attacks, however, come packing a +25 accuracy modifier which makes them, by FAR, the most accurate mooks in the game. Be very careful with your reals because they can easily be brought down (even with focus, if you let the evasion decay pile on).
That was the cannon part, now for the glass: every single Coralian has minuscule armor (a baseline Methuss has more), so you can easily shoot them down. The bigger issue is simply the large amount they like to spawn in, so MAP weapons are especially recommended to thin them out.
Even the Big Antibody’s 2L size won’t make up for its piddly defenses.



With all that in mind, I’m tagging a Renton kill-zone on the NE corner and pretty much everything in there will get MAP’d on the next turn. Hap’s casting Confuse for extra safety.



Meanwhile, our remaining troops will work on whatever further to the NW.




: Dimensional quakes and the Coralians… so these guys really DO have something to do with the collapse?
: Wait…does that mean we can stop it if we take them out?!











Good, good. They’re in Wide formation but that won’t help much with that armor.



Let’s see if Gain can’t take out the leader.




: I’ve barely got time to aim with how these things charge in like mad!
: Do they not care about their own lives…?!





Urgh, just 36 HP short…fine, the Freeden takes it out from afar.



And at least Dyke takes Prevail L6 out of the deal.



Let’s try the smaller ones.




: We have to fight back if their natural instinct is to attack!
: They can’t get through! Let’s go, Hayato, Benkei!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDvyX_MQUkA
Eeew…



Deal with this, Apollo.




: Eureka’s one of our friends…but if you’re here to hurt people, I ain’t cutting ya any slack!
: I dunno jack about antibodies or whatever but I’m still gonna kick your asses!










I like how the Coralians all fade to dust when they’re killed.



I also like this.



Take this time both to weaken these Medium Antibodies and show off their Laser attack.




: To be honest, I’ve no interest, in one way or another, in whatever it is that you are.
: However, so long as you decide to attack, you’ll remain a foe to me…
: And so long as you’re not open to communication, you force me to resolve matters via brute strength!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtBCf4u-e1c



And, finally, Renton will just attack whatever to pass time.



: Renton…
: I don’t know what we should do either…
: But, there’s no choice right now! We gotta fight!
: Yes…


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOY9nUMnvvk
Duuuuuuuuuude, look at that damage.



Enemy Phase!








Renton’s swarmed by a bunch of stuff and simply dodges; elsewhere, Gain and Ryouma are dealing with these problems in their own manner (two kills each)



Ah, perfect.












And that was a 10k damage overkill.



Nearby, Roger TRIs a batch of Small Coralians and kills the leader. Soon after, he gives me a chance to show off the Big Coralian’s only attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwdAqg_vvKk



Player Phase!



Better late than never, I guess.



Mwahahahahaha!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxrs7ny2GGQ
That’s 17 kills for those not counting.



Roger weakens some Medium Coralians and Holland steps up to the plate.




: I won’t accept it…! These ones were forced out here and are attacking by instinct – nothing more!
: It’s all his fault…! This isn’t because of what we’ve done! No way!












There’s one down.
Also, Holland vs. Coralians #1: “We gotta hurry…there’s only so much time left…!”



Jamil will be more than capable of cleaning up the remaining two.




: What’s this…? I feel some kind of will behind those Coralians…
: Are my powers sensing something…?










Boom!





Apollo takes care of one of the Big Coralians and Kei blasts a fresh group of Mediums.



Said group is just in Marin’s range.




: Space-time around that cloud was all distorted and these antibodies emerged due to an oscillation bomb…
: Can it be that the Coralians are…










Triple kill!



As Ryouma keeps himself busy bringing down another Small, Jiron takes aim at this group that’s still full.




: There are good people and there are bad ones!
: Same thing for the Coralians! Just as there’s one who fell in love with a human, there are those who attack us!






Bah, the squaddies barely survived.



What can you do about this, Gainer?




: Dr. Bear said these Coralians are “antibodies”… we’re a contagion in their eyes, then?
: If so, does this mean there’s just no way for us to coexist?










Barely short of three kills, again…



Bello’s now a better suited Overman pilot than Gauli…let that sink in for a bit.



Let’s have Duke clean up after Jiron.




: Regardless of what these Coralians are, our duty is to look after each and every person!
: You will not pass! If you still want to try, then have at you!







Nice and easy.



Took you long enough!



Next!




: …
: Something wrong, Mel? You hurt?!
: I don’t know… I’m feeling something strange inside…like pain and sadness…
: (The hell? Is that ball of light that got into her reacting to these things?!)








Hmm, do Coralians bleed? That looks like it could’ve left a big mess of gunk over the Gunleon.

Nearby, the Freeden takes another easy kill and we’re done.


Enemy Phase!





They didn’t appreciate that and attack Sara back. Thankfully, I had the foresight to leave her with Alert.



As Apollo and Holland each take a counterkill, this Small Coralian decides to get clever and go after Elchi.












Dodging isn’t their forte, though, and she can get easy numbers against them (I have an A-Adaptor on the Iron Gear, so it’s no longer penalized against flying targets).





The remaining two Big Coralians trade blows with Roger and Marin.



Player Phase!



Alright, let’s wrap this up.




: Jeez, I’m totally lost here!
: Would somebody just explain to me what the hell these Coralians are?!








In due time, Garrod.



The remaining Coralians fall shortly and, just to try and give Adette one last level, I let her take the remaining one.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JchGNWkT57A
Been a very long time since someone used this attack, huh?



And there we go, another pilot who can trigger OverSkills!




:toot:





More Coralians enter the area almost immediately, seemingly endless, and we certainly can’t keep this up indefinitely. Letting them through here would mean another slaughter like in the Federation’s video, though.
Eureka, however, senses something and the Coralians start shaking – they soon explode and crumble away. It wasn’t something of a self-destruct, though, as Rena says they simply ran out of energy.
Hilda does remember in Dewey’s video that they never showed the Federation actually dealing with the Coralians who attacked that town. It seems that these Antibodies are on a time limit after they appear in our world.
Eureka, shivering badly, asks Renton to hold her hand...



After the battle, Holland calls for an all-hands meeting and Elchi wonders what he’s got in mind. Cramping everyone inside the Gekko isn’t the best but Hap says this is something Holland wanted to tell everyone.
Holland reiterates that Eureka is a humanoid Coralian, a fact he learned while in the military.
He was also told by his mentor, Adroc Thurston, that the Coralians are intelligent and created the Gekkostate for one purpose: carrying on Adroc's will and protecting Eureka, the one and only means of accessing the Coralians.

Jiron and Marin wonder if that’s really possible as the ones we found today didn’t seem the slightest bit interested - or capable - of talking as they attacked us.
Holland explains that today’s battle was Dewey’s handiwork and, while he doesn’t know why he did it, says the guy used a so-called “Orange” to force the Antibodies to spawn. Ryouma asks if Dewey’s trying to get the Coralians to wipe humanity out but, no, Hap’s certain that the guy’s doing it all in the interest of protecting both humanity and our world.
Raita sees that they seem to know much about Dewey and Hap sighs that there’s a bit of a history between the Gekkostate and him.




Regardless, Holland tells the team that Dewey and his Ageha Squad see the intelligent Coralians as a threat to mankind and are trying to exterminate them. Dewey’s been after that since before the Break and certainly hasn’t changed.
The Gekkostate had been trying to halt the military's plans and make contact with the Coralians on more positive terms, but now that they’ve been revealed to the world in such a negative light, they have to be very careful or they'll turn all of society against them.
Apollo asks, then, for Holland’s opinion - sure, Eureka’s our friend but does he really think it’s possible to get along with all the Coralians? Indeed, Sirius says if coexistence isn’t actually possible, like with the Fallen Angels and Demons, then fighting them seems like the only option.


: …Honestly, I don’t know. But, I believe - or it might be better to say that I want to believe...
: So long as Eureka’s here, I believe it can be done.
: That’s quite the crazy dream…
: You can think that if ya want… and that’s why I wanna hear what y'all think.
: If you think this story’s just a pipe dream, then I… the Gekkostate, will go its own way.
: Huh…
: Whoa, hold on! Why are you bringing this up now…?!
: I've been using things throughout my whole life, all for my goals...
: That's why I founded the Gekkostate, why I took up Lifting and counterculture… Same goes for ZEUTH.
: And I didn’t realize that, by doing so, I was hurting all those things that I should’ve valued…
: …
: Not just that…I also hurt a lot of people, saying it was all to protect something important…
: Especially you two, Renton and Eureka… I can’t even begin to apologize but I hope you can forgive me.
: Holland…
: (Whoa, he apologized to Renton…!)
: (He's really pouring out his heart…I guess it’d be a faux pas to tease him now, huh?)
: I won’t demand anything else…ain’t got the right to do that. I just wanna make it up for using you guys.
: Don’t sweat it, bud!
: Repairman…
: Ya know…the truth is that I’ve been using you folks too.
: I figured sticking with someone famous would be my ticket to “nice and easy” street.
: But we make barely enough to afford food!
: Yeaaah…I was way off target on that subject.
: Well, if we’re talking about something like that, then we’re just as guilty. After all, we used everyone here as decoys to bring Kei over to Emaan.
: And we figured working with the Emaanians would be really profitable, so I guess it’s the same for us, huh?
: We joined ZEUTH in order to protect Newtypes, so we cannot be excused, either.
: Ditto, what with me trying to get revenge on the Aldebaron.
: And we, who joined to investigate what the Fallen Angels and Demons were doing.
: And you with that “personal Exodus” story, Gainer! Talk about unreasonable!
: I-I guess so.
: You…
: That’s the way it is, Holland. We’re all guilty here, so no one has any intention of criticizing you.
: Furthermore, I also support your dream.
: Jamil…
: It’s not like we haven’t already been pariahs for a long time and I think I also have faith on Eureka and Renton. Is that alright with you, Tifa?
: Yes…
: Same here, of course! I’ve been watching their backs since day one!
: Garrod…thanks!
: If those two are OK with it, does that mean we’re automatically in?
: Hey, you’re free to run off if you don’t like it.
: Just kidding! Even I have a rather strong attachment to the Freeden.
: Right, Acting Captain?
: Ah…?
: This journey itself is our goal. And seeing the world from its underside seems a whole lot more interesting than staying on a surface that’s filled with lies.
: OK, Shaia. And you don’t get to say “no”, Olson!
: I wouldn’t be here if I wanted to work for the powerful.
: Yup! You gotta be honest with yourself!
: And I can’t really stand the Feds lying to folks to help out their game. So, I’m in your team, Holland.
: Yes, the Iron Gear will stay with the Gekkostate.
: Considering that we’re the Iron Gear's tenants, we’ll have to go with you too.
: And those who bail on their “bros” aren’t men at all, Gainer.
: Got it, Ms. Adette!
: My bro’s coming too…!
: We’ll help you anyway we can, Renton! Fight, fight!
: I owe ya one for teaching me about the UN, too. It’s a tough spot we're in but I wanna see what kind of man you'll become.
: I started this just to be with Eureka, so I’ll pull it off, Rand!
: Then, I’ll be coming along as well...?
: ‘Course, Löwen! You gotta stick with us until you figure out if your heavenly boss is OK!
: Just don’t expect to make any cash outta this, repairman.
: Nah…before anything, ya gotta make it up for us for that “Runaway Renton” episode.
: He’s right. We’re gonna stick to you like glue until you buy everyone a round.
: That just makes me never want to buy y'all a drink.
: What will you do, Roger? The client here looks kinda broke.
: Despite my appearance, I’m a free spirit.
: Even if there’ll be no payment, once I’ve taken an interest in something, I’ll persevere with it until I’ve seen the end result.
: That’s how it always goes.
: I’ll be counting on you, Negotiator...more on your strength than anything else, of course.
: I’d rather not but there might be no other way.

: Apollo…
: Ya don’t need to start yacking on me, Ryou. I already said I wanted to help them.
: I really like that sense of duty you have.
: Heh...It don’t feel right to hear that from ya. You guys ain’t got a problem with this, right?
: And why do you get to make this call?!
: ...Not that I disagree, of course.
: We are all free... Giving of ourselves for what we believe in is perfectly fine – even if the world goes against it.
: And there’s that princely attitude we know and love!
: But it’s good...this is all good.
: Yeah! We’re all used to this outcast lifestyle by now!

: Oliver, Raita, Jamie…
: Honestly, I don’t really understand those Coralians...
: But we should think twice before falling for the Feds’ propaganda and attacking them - best to make an informed decision.
: Yeah. There are even trustworthy aliens around, so…
: But you better not go telling Eureka one of your awful jokes, Raita.
: Marin…
: It’s as it seems, Daisuke. Looks like your efforts weren’t for nothing.
: Yes...and I’ll have faith in Eureka and Renton just as I did with you three.
: And I’d like to apologize to Kouji and his friends…to, once again, stand side-by-side with them.
: The other ZEUTH, huh…
: It’s true that we’ve both been fooled… but we don’t know whether they’ll understand everything.
: There ARE a handful of thickheaded folks in their group…
: Ain’t nothing gonna happen if we don’t at least try talking to them, though…
: Right...! Things are just gonna end up as before if we don’t clear the air!
: And that’s why we need to meet with them one more time.
: We’ll all do this as ZEUTH. Is that fine, Holland?
: Pfeh…A gathering of folks who don’t know what’s good for them…or, maybe, everyone just has no idea of what they’re getting themselves into?
: You’re the same, mister. “Birds of a feather flock together”, right?
: Fine. But, at least, lemme say this...
: Thanks.
: Whoa, whoa! Did I just hear Holland saying “thanks”?!
: So he does know words like that!
: That’s what it looks like! It’s my first time hearing it!
: Not that surprising. I’ve been here since the third year and I’ve never heard him say it before.
: Sh-shut up!




Dr. Bear comes in right then, noticing the merriment going around, and Mischa asks if he’s finished with his research.
No, it’s still far from finished as he still needs more data BUT, by observing us and Eureka, he’s been able to confirm something: the Scub Coral itself is intelligent and the Coralians are actually just assemblages of it sent forth to perform some sort of task. It's not surprising that everyone mistakes the Scub Coral for some random soil, since its biological processes are so different from every other known form of life.
That means that Eureka too was sent for some purpose, though even she has no idea what that purpose might be. That fact itself is her purpose, Greg thinks: she was deliberately sent as a blank book, as a message from the Scub Coral that it knows nothing about mankind.



And in fact, Eureka is also mankind's message to the Scub Coral, says the suddenly appearing Fudou.
When Tsugumi asks, he says he just arrived and decided to join us in this interesting conversation – the way the guy always shows up outta nowhere is making Apollo think he’s flying in through subspace just like Baldios. Regardless, Greg confirms what Fudou said.
Eureka was sent as a blank book so that we may imprint in her anything we wish, be it love, or hatred, or whatever.

So, if humanity wants to be friends with the Scub Coral, they need to have Eureka with them on all sorts of different tasks. Matthew wonders if, in case we can’t understand each other, we’ll have more of those Antibodies showing up to attack.
However, Stoner and Ken-goh add that, unlike their original world, the Scub Coral is only present in a handful of regions in this world and, furthermore, it can only spawn a limited number of Antibodies which only last for a limited time. All those point to an inevitable human victory if it comes to war.

Greg disagrees, saying that, while we may not see it, there’s plenty of Coral existing in the shadows of this world: as Marin noticed, enormous amounts of it exist in a dimension VERY close to ours. It, essentially, surrounds our world completely.
That’s why the Kute Coralians appear where space-time’s distorted and why the Antibodies can be drawn over by dimensional quakes.



Daisuke asks if Greg’s suggesting that an unlimited number of Antibodies could spawn sometime but the doctor says that’s not the problem here.
The Coral has transcended the concept of numbers and, should all of them wake up, the sum total of life would pass the theoretical limit of information that the world can sustain. If that happens, the resulting dimensional quake will be immensely more powerful than the Break.
In fact, we’re already feeling the effects of the Coral’s steady awakening as our dimensional walls are getting more and more unstable – indeed, this is the cause behind the incoming collapse. This is a big reveal but that’s all Greg can say for now without more data, since he's only had a chance to study Eureka directly.
Stoner guesses that the only other data repository would be with the military, but Holland has another idea: find Norb, of the Vodarac.



Location: Galia - Zaft’s Gibraltar Base




: …So, you’re saying that Dewey Novak is using small Space-Time Oscillation Bombs?
: He calls them “Oranges”, I believe.
: Those don’t deserve to be called “Space-Time Oscillation Bombs”, really, but they can do enough to tease the Coralians beyond the dimensional walls.
: Nevertheless, I didn’t expect the Federation to have such advanced dimensional technology…
: Oh, it’s not that surprising…especially considering that it was I who gave it to them.
: And that, too, is part of your grand plan?
: …You could say that.
: Still, I’m well aware that you're not actually very willing to leave me to my own devices…
: …
: And I also know that you’re advancing your own plan in the shadows of my mischief.
: …I thank you for informing me of the parallel worlds and the distortion in the dimensional walls.
: Please, you needn’t do that. I’ve already been very nicely rewarded.
: Plant technology is wonderful, isn’t it? It’s amazing that your lessons from the Bloody Valentine War would lead you to create such a thing.
: The Neutron Stampeder…a device that forcibly triggers nuclear fission to self-destruct any nearby nuclear weapon...my, my.
: …
: This'll make for an amusing card to play. I’ll put it to good use.
: It’s almost time for me to get to work. I will show you technology far more advanced than Col. Dewey’s little Oranges.
: You mean those were unpolished...?
: You must fail before you succeed. Otherwise, the world would be quite boring.
: Failure before success… sacrifices to achieve an objective… I suppose, ultimately, a ruler has no choice but to accept such things as necessary…
: Oh, don’t be so gloomy. Just wait a bit longer and everything’ll be fine.
: The world will be saved...and humanity will have its future.
: I’d like to believe those words…
: …By the way, what should I call you?
: Hm? Why do you care about such trivialities now?
: I did not think we’d be working together for this long when we first met.
: I will not ask who you are but you cannot remain nameless forever, yes?
: "Warrior of Salvation"… "Traveler to the Taiji"… "Defender of the Law"… "Guardian of Causality"… "Accursed Wanderer"…any of them is appropriate...
: Hmm...why don’t you call me “Black Charisma”?
: Quite the theatrical name...very well.
: And, with that, I bid you good day. I’ve a feeling the world will, once again, be in flux when next we meet.
: I can’t wait to see just how much it’ll change…






: ZEROOOOOOOOOOOO! :argh:


One more thing before we end. Head over to the bazaar because it’s time we collected a prize. DO NOT SKIP THIS because I think you’ll lose out if you don’t grab it now:


Jiron and co. had done their best to ration their BIG lizard jerky but they only have a bit left. That said, Burume’s heard that lizard is quite rare around here, so we should be able to sell this for quite the profit.
Apollo likes it and suggests they use the cash to buy MORE food. He doesn’t have to look very far as Dr. Bear shows up and seems rather taken with the “delicacy”.
When Silvia asks, he says he came to the bazaar to stock up on his candy as he gets cravings for sweets whenever he’s doing research (Tsugumi thinks that he’s always eating sweets, research or not).

Either way, he gives Chil some of his candy and, in exchange, wants our remaining lizard jerky - Rag and Apollo aren’t amused with this uneven trade, though, and tell Chil to give the candy back.
Too bad, though, she’s already eaten which means the trade stands! Rag isn’t budging as, trade notwithstanding, this is way too much of a one-sided deal and Jiron agrees, saying we can’t give him the stuff unless Greg covers the difference.
Fine, then he agrees to give us this trinket made by the Tresor folk – it’s an excellent unit part, so he’s sure we’ll be satisfied.



I am VERY satisfied as we finally get the first of Rand’s secret parts: the Hero’s Mark!
This baby adds +25 to Mobility and Accuracy, + 25 to crit ratio and +200 to armor – perfect for dodgy Supers like Getter or, really, any Real (they won’t benefit much from the armor but, still…).

Here’s a reminder of the steps we took to get here:
  • Mission 8 – Jiron and Apollo both kill an enemy and, after the battle, your purchase a Lizard Jerky from the bazaar
  • Mission 23 – purchase the Natto from the bazaar
  • Mission 28 – purchase the Big Lizard Jerky
  • Mission 39 – Visit the bazaar

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Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
and Holland has finally stopped being a giant man baby

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