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OhDearGodNo posted:There's no way to answer this. For all I know you're a complete idiot and as such I'd say it'll be insanely difficult. I probably am if only because I can't get up the courage to take it. Just looking for personal anecdotes on whether people feel they over or under prepared after taking the test. I've put a lot of studying and practice in but if the consensus is that the test is still really hard I'll hit the books again. If not, I'll take it Monday.
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Judge Schnoopy posted:Ccna holders: how hard is the test itself, really, on a scale of 1 to 10 I passed after about two months of heavy study and thought it was very hard.
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Jun 13, 2015 16:05
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Judge Schnoopy posted:I probably am if only because I can't get up the courage to take it. I passed after about ~2 weeks per test studying about 30-35 hours per week. I had no professional experience whatsoever with the subject (I was a cook), and I thought I vastly over-prepped for it. ICND1 is, as has been said before, incredibly surprisingly easy so there's really no excuse for not having at least the CCENT. If you're at all good at multiple choice tests (IE: picking out the two obviously wrong, and 1 subtly wrong answer with a basic understanding of the subject material and the context of the test) you can pass the CCENT with like 1 week of casual study. You might not get a great score, but nobody is going to ask you what your score was. You actually have to know something to pass the ICND2, there will be enough questions on it with answers that require you to fully understand the subject material to make you fail the test if you don't. That being said, the subjects aren't that deep or complex and they are mostly asking you to memorize some basic rules and do some simple calculations. You'll have to be able to describe OSPF and EIGRP, note some differences between the two, and maybe fix a sim problem which probably has a 1-line answer on one of the devices. I thought my 2 weeks / ~65 hours of study was sufficient for the ICND2, I probably could have got by with much less (I got a 994), but you really should know these kinds of things if you're going for a networking job in the first place. You're going to turn some heads if your future employer decides to hire "the guy with the CCNA" and then you stumble on basic networking concepts. 12 rats tied together fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Jun 13, 2015 |
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Jun 13, 2015 17:06
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KillHour posted:Why the gently caress does vmware require the class, then? It just feels like a giant waste of time. It's a way to stop people from just brain dumping the cert. It's still a valuable cert right now because of the classroom requirement. You know anyone who has a VCP-DCV has at least sat through a 40 hour training course and probably has some actual knowledge. If they didn't have the classroom requirement there would be 10 times as many VCP-DCV's out there right now and the cert would have almost no value. I still need to take it while they're letting us. I took the course last year at a community college for 200 bucks through their continuing education department.
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Jun 13, 2015 19:33
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Man you must be Einstein because there is a shitload of very specific information on the CCNA that you have to know to have any hope of passing. IF you can pass it casually studying in a week please take your CCIE right now.
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Jun 13, 2015 19:35
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Memorize the port chart and find a list of all the dumb variations on Phishing. For some reason it's important that you distinguish between Phishing, Vishing and Smishing. I spent the first 2 years of my career doing nothing but network security and I went to school for it, and I still have no idea what Vishing and Smishing are. I'm also not going to look them up because they sound stupid.  Edit: I lied. They're even stupider than they sound.
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quote:CompTIA is looking for qualified IT professionals to participate in developing and reviewing item content for the CompTIA Cloud+ certification exam. Apply now if you have a minimum of 5 years of IT experience and at least 2 years of technical, hands-on experience with cloud services integration and virtualization technologies. Apparently IT professionals within driving distance of Illinois are the source of terrible exam questions.
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Bigass Moth posted:Man you must be Einstein because there is a shitload of very specific information on the CCNA that you have to know to have any hope of passing. IF you can pass it casually studying in a week please take your CCIE right now. Sorry - poor phrasing on my part. The CCNA requires you to know a lot of stuff, yeah, and I thought my 65 hours of study was about average. I was also jobless at the time, however, so I had plenty of free time and motivation. If you're already comfortable in life it might be a little more difficult, but when your continued not-homelessness depends on getting some certs and a job it's really easy to concentrate. The CCENT, which you get by passing ICND1, is not nearly as difficult. You can probably pass it with 1 week of casual study assuming you are already working in IT, especially if you interact with networks at all. All you really need to learn is the binary math behind ip addresses, what a subnet is, what a vlan is, and you need to know ~10(?) really basic cisco IOS commands. If you have even a tenuous grasp on those concepts you can probably pass with a low 800 or so. The CCNA (ICND2 or the combo test), yeah you're going to want to spent some time studying a lot of different, complex topics and making sure you know them enough to drop some $$$ on a test. It's nothing to sneeze at. 12 rats tied together fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jun 13, 2015 |
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Not to mention they toughened it up some a year and a half ago or whatever. From what I understand, they moved some stuff off of the CCNP and on to the CCNA.
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Those are the exams we're discussing now, the "tougher" ones. It's my mistake, actually, I wasn't aware that the previous 640-x exams also had the title "ICND-X". It used to be (I believe, I never took these): 640-822 ICND1 gets you the CCENT 640-815 ICND2 gets you the CCNA 640-802 CCNA gets you the CCNA (it's a composite of the previous 2) They changed it to: 100-101 ICND1 gets you the CCENT 200-101 ICND2 gets you the CCNA 200-120 CCNA gets you the CCNA (it's the new composite) I don't believe they moved anything from the CCNP onto the ICND1/CCENT exam, but yeah I am told they moved a bunch of CCNP stuff into the CCNA. I hadn't taken any cisco exams prior to this happening so I couldn't give you an opinion or anything, I thought the test was fair and accurately measured what an employer expects you to be able to do in a junior networking position.
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Jun 13, 2015 23:44
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anyone here ever took the CCNA/P Voice? Is it worth dishing the money out of?
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Race Realists posted:anyone here ever took the CCNA/P Voice? Is it worth dishing the money out of? I've haven't worked with any VoIP Guys in years but last I heard you will drown in money if you get the voice creds. On the other hand I find VoIP incredibly boring, dry and you've never seen the wrath of users when their phones stop working.
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http://birch.iapplicants.com/ViewJob-625817.html?jb=3quote:Search Jobs | About Us | Home you know, it drives me loving NUTS when i see poo poo like that  like, what world do these people live in? BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jun 15, 2015 |
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Jun 15, 2015 19:05
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They really want to hire an H1B so they throw out a job description with unrealistic requirements which allows them to then say that they've exhausted all local efforts to find someone with the skillset they desire. They'll also pay 60% of market value.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:15
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Ozu posted:They really want to hire an H1B so they throw out a job description with unrealistic requirements which allows them to then say that they've exhausted all local efforts to find someone with the skillset they desire. They'll also pay 60% of market value. I thought you couldn't underpay H1Bs?
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Ozu posted:They really want to hire an H1B so they throw out a job description with unrealistic requirements which allows them to then say that they've exhausted all local efforts to find someone with the skillset they desire. They'll also pay 60% of market value. this is the second time i've heard of this gently caress georgia seriously
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Judge Schnoopy posted:I probably am if only because I can't get up the courage to take it. God, this is the exact same boat I'm in.
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Jun 15, 2015 19:32
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Tab8715 posted:I thought you couldn't underpay H1Bs?
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Tab8715 posted:I thought you couldn't underpay H1Bs? You can't. The Department of Labor is very strict about it and makes publicly available all H1B applications that a company has applied for with salary ranges and whether or not the case was approved or denied. There are several sites that make the information available, like this one for example: http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=BIRCH+COMMUNICATIONS+INC&job=&city=&year=All
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Inspector_666 posted:God, this is the exact same boat I'm in. Well if it makes you feel better I scheduled my test for tomorrow. I looked over my notes and over my practice tests and realized there's nothing left for me to learn. I'll either pass the test, or something about the exam will catch me off-guard and I'll fail miserably, then wait it out and pass on the retake.
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Judge Schnoopy posted:Well if it makes you feel better I scheduled my test for tomorrow. I looked over my notes and over my practice tests and realized there's nothing left for me to learn. I'll either pass the test, or something about the exam will catch me off-guard and I'll fail miserably, then wait it out and pass on the retake. Just remember to take your time during the test. You can't go back to older questions once you've clicked next during the exam. So take your time, pay attention to IPs, subnet masks, etc and you'll do fine.
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BaseballPCHiker posted:Just remember to take your time during the test. You can't go back to older questions once you've clicked next during the exam. So take your time, pay attention to IPs, subnet masks, etc and you'll do fine. Also cram as much as you can into your short term memory immediately before you test and use most of the 15 min tutorial they give you to regurgitate whatever onto the lil dry erase sheet they give you
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Jun 15, 2015 22:16
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Can anyone recommend training for ccna video?
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I've used both CBTNuggets and Chris Bryant. I prefer the super hyper CBTNuggets host that gets loving PUMPED by Wireshark to Chris Bryant. Either one is fine and will cover the necessary material. Chris takes the approach of much smaller videos of 10-15 minutes while the CBT videos are usually 45-60 minutes.
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crunk dork posted:Also cram as much as you can into your short term memory immediately before you test and use most of the 15 min tutorial they give you to regurgitate whatever onto the lil dry erase sheet they give you While the information I wrote down didn't help (factors of 16 for easy network address identification and powers of 2 with accompanying cidrs, layers of osi), the stuff I crammed regarding terms and details of each service definitely helped a ton. Passed the CCNA! Only had 2 sims which I thought was weird, I heard there would be 3 and budgeted my time accordingly.
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BaseballPCHiker posted:I've used both CBTNuggets and Chris Bryant. I prefer the super hyper CBTNuggets host that gets loving PUMPED by Wireshark to Chris Bryant. Either one is fine and will cover the necessary material. Chris takes the approach of much smaller videos of 10-15 minutes while the CBT videos are usually 45-60 minutes. To be clear I am asking about the video track, not videos for the ccna. This is for video which is being retired and rolled into collab.
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Judge Schnoopy posted:While the information I wrote down didn't help (factors of 16 for easy network address identification and powers of 2 with accompanying cidrs, layers of osi), the stuff I crammed regarding terms and details of each service definitely helped a ton. Good for you man! Congratulations
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Are there any certs besides A+ that would help make someone a "lock" for an interview for a desktop support type of job? I have experience but feel like since I haven't taken the tests that some HR person is just brushing my resume into the trashcan.
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Budget Dracula posted:Are there any certs besides A+ that would help make someone a "lock" for an interview for a desktop support type of job? I have experience but feel like since I haven't taken the tests that some HR person is just brushing my resume into the trashcan. I wouldn't say that A+ is by any means a lock for a desktop support interview. Maybe a help desk role? To be clear, I'm defining help desk as answer phones, & resolving simple problems remotely, while desktop support would be more actually going to people to troubleshoot things, preparing new equipment, etc. If such a cert exists, I'd say (in order of likelihood) CCNA, Security+, and maybe 70-680, depending on if they're primarily Windows 7-based, would be closer to that.
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The CompTia A+ cert consists of 2x exams does that mean I need to take them close together? I've bought a textbook and voucher for 1x exam but waiting to schedule jic something comes up.
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Alder posted:The CompTia A+ cert consists of 2x exams does that mean I need to take them close together? I've bought a textbook and voucher for 1x exam but waiting to schedule jic something comes up. You don't have to take them close. I had two months in between my exams (I was paranoid and focused on one at a time). They just have to match each other ie. 801 and 802. You can't use something like 701 and 802. Hell, depending on your approach and prior knowledge, you can take 802 before 801 if you want.
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Singh Long posted:You don't have to take them close. I had two months in between my exams (I was paranoid and focused on one at a time). They just have to match each other ie. 801 and 802. You can't use something like 701 and 802. Hell, depending on your approach and prior knowledge, you can take 802 before 801 if you want. Sounds good, I wanted to take 1 exam a month but not completely certain if it'd be allowed. Thanks.
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Singh Long posted:You don't have to take them close. I had two months in between my exams (I was paranoid and focused on one at a time). They just have to match each other ie. 801 and 802. You can't use something like 701 and 802. Hell, depending on your approach and prior knowledge, you can take 802 before 801 if you want. I'm not sure why they have two exams, except that it's part of a money-grab, plain and simple. I actually took both of them on the same day, back-to-back, and didn't do any more specific studying for the second exam than the first. Granted, I had like 15 years as a computer hobbyist and 3 years as a helpdesk and desktop support person, but it didn't seem like anything special.
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Reiz posted:Those are the exams we're discussing now, the "tougher" ones. It's my mistake, actually, I wasn't aware that the previous 640-x exams also had the title "ICND-X". Newbie here with a couple of questions. Do you get a certify passing the 100-101 ICND1 CCENT exam? Do they send you a psychical certification paper after the passing the exam? Or do you have to pass 200-101 ICND2 in order to be fully certified? I will be taking the Net+ exam next month and I want to start preparing for CCNA certs but not sure where to start.
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Passing 100-101 gets you a CCENT certification and a physical CCENT certificate, for all the good that will do. From what I've seen in the last year, the de-facto entry-level networking cert (for a networking-specific position) is still the CCNA.
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wca posted:Newbie here with a couple of questions. I took the same route of n+ and prep for the ccent. If you pass the n+ with a good score and you have the time (already have a job) I recommend skipping the ccent and going straight for CCNA. There's a lot of overlap between the n+ and ccent, plus some command specific stuff, and once you're learning Cisco ios it's not much extra effort to get to CCNA level.
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Daylen Drazzi posted:I'm not sure why they have two exams, except that it's part of a money-grab, plain and simple. I actually took both of them on the same day, back-to-back, and didn't do any more specific studying for the second exam than the first. Granted, I had like 15 years as a computer hobbyist and 3 years as a helpdesk and desktop support person, but it didn't seem like anything special. I did wonder too, but oh well. I checked out the practice questions and they seem OK but under considerable irl stress right now. As for self-taught knowledge I picked out PC parts a few years ago and familiar with Win 7 if that counts. How bad is the PBQ? I thought the sample demo was easy but then again it was free... Alder fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Jun 18, 2015 |
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Alder posted:I did wonder too, but oh well. I checked out the practice questions and they seem OK but under considerable irl stress right now. As for self-taught knowledge I picked out PC parts a few years ago and familiar with Win 7 if that counts. In my case, the only PBQs that initially caught me off guard during my 802 were using command lines to fix a connectivity issue between two computers (Though I realized the answer was something I've done often) and setting up an alternate wired IP config. Just stick with your textbook (I went with Sybex btw) and Professor Messer's vids and you should be OK.
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Alder posted:Sounds good, I wanted to take 1 exam a month but not completely certain if it'd be allowed. Thanks. I would honestly take them both at the same time. As I recall one test is more hardware focused and the other is software/soft skills. Just take them back to back and be done with it.
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Judge Schnoopy posted:I took the same route of n+ and prep for the ccent. If you pass the n+ with a good score and you have the time (already have a job) I recommend skipping the ccent and going straight for CCNA. There's a lot of overlap between the n+ and ccent, plus some command specific stuff, and once you're learning Cisco ios it's not much extra effort to get to CCNA level. So go straight to this 200-101 ICND2 CCNA or 200-120 CCNA?
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