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Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'

We never had a touch tone phone. Ours were pulse dialling, right into the 2000s. For me the sound of dialling the phone will always be pu-pu-pu-puh. pu-puh. pu-pu-pu-pu-pu-puh.

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tribbledirigible
Jul 27, 2004
I finally beat the internet. The end boss was hard.

Something that looks like it should have bee obseleted and I just found out is still actually current is the handset lifter:


It works in conjuction with some wireless headsets for phones and gives a very distinctive whirr noise when you're hanging up with a person using it. It had me thinking one of my vendors had a robot arm, but the reality was much less cool.

Digital_Jesus
Feb 10, 2011

Yeah those handset lifters aren't obsolete at all. They exist for the sole purpose of allowing companies to buy cheapass voip phones that don't support a 3rd party headset with the handset in the cradle.

loving garbage.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

tribbledirigible posted:

Something that looks like it should have bee obseleted and I just found out is still actually current is the handset lifter:


It works in conjuction with some wireless headsets for phones and gives a very distinctive whirr noise when you're hanging up with a person using it. It had me thinking one of my vendors had a robot arm, but the reality was much less cool.

Ironically, the very phone that they used in that picture, a Cisco 7962, has an AUX that can be used as an electronic headset hookswitch control. Assuming that is a 7962. The 7960 and 7961 look almost exactly the same.

Digital_Jesus posted:

Yeah those handset lifters aren't obsolete at all. They exist for the sole purpose of allowing companies to buy cheapass voip phones that don't support a 3rd party headset with the handset in the cradle.

loving garbage.

Actually, the current reason for using them is for remote control of the phone with a cordless headset. Press a button on your wireless headset and you phone goes off hook or on hook.

Lowen SoDium has a new favorite as of 19:14 on Jun 17, 2015

Enos Shenk
Nov 3, 2011


Kugyou no Tenshi posted:

Counterpoint: You can't play Trade Wars, Legend of the Red Dragon, Global War, or Cripple Fight over Usenet.

...Speaking of which, I should see if there's still any decent Trade Wars servers out there and if Attack Terminal is still maintained.

Tradewars has a standalone server now. I have registration codes for it, but I haven't run a server for ages.

So yeah, there's plenty of servers out there. They're just mostly put up and run by spergy shitlords.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Lowen SoDium posted:

Actually, the current reason for using them is for remote control of the phone with a cordless headset. Press a button on your wireless headset and you phone goes off hook or on hook.

gently caress using soft phones amirite.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

GreenNight posted:

gently caress using soft phones amirite.

My company is testing using softphones for our call center, the the cost of a USB headset versus the cost of a hardware desk phone and a plantronics headset is a big deciding factor.

But we probably won't replace all the deskphones company wide for a few reasons. Deskphones work when the power goes out (as long as the switch closet UPS's hold), you don't have to log in to a PC to use a phone, and users are just used to using a physical phone. User resistance to change is probably a bigger factor than anything.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


GreenNight posted:

gently caress using soft phones amirite.

The Avaya softphone we use at work randomly decides it doesn't want to take any microphone input. My USB headset works perfectly well in other applications, but with the softphone it's completely random.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

The Cisco softphone works fairly well except it leaks memory like a sieve (obviously since it's a Java app) and you need to restart it every other day.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Lowen SoDium posted:

My company is testing using softphones for our call center, the the cost of a USB headset versus the cost of a hardware desk phone and a plantronics headset is a big deciding factor.

But we probably won't replace all the deskphones company wide for a few reasons. Deskphones work when the power goes out (as long as the switch closet UPS's hold), you don't have to log in to a PC to use a phone, and users are just used to using a physical phone. User resistance to change is probably a bigger factor than anything.

Yeah we're also testing softphones for our call center. We're testing wireless Jabra headsets. So far we're getting about 8 hours talk time.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

tribbledirigible posted:

Something that looks like it should have bee obseleted and I just found out is still actually current is the handset lifter:


It works in conjuction with some wireless headsets for phones and gives a very distinctive whirr noise when you're hanging up with a person using it. It had me thinking one of my vendors had a robot arm, but the reality was much less cool.

Ha! That's what I have at work. Occasionally, the lifter will operate on its on raising and lowering the receiver over and over again.

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

tribbledirigible posted:

Something that looks like it should have bee obseleted and I just found out is still actually current is the handset lifter:


It works in conjuction with some wireless headsets for phones and gives a very distinctive whirr noise when you're hanging up with a person using it. It had me thinking one of my vendors had a robot arm, but the reality was much less cool.

I have one in my home office. It rocks.

The real challenge will be replacing my two line phone with corded handset and true full duplex speakerphone.

LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009

Lowen SoDium posted:

Actually, the current reason for using them is for remote control of the phone with a cordless headset. Press a button on your wireless headset and you phone goes off hook or on hook.
The Cisco phone I have at work will work with a cordless headset without the stupid lifter thing. That said it would gently caress up once in awhile despite being on whatever goofy settings it was supposed to be on to make it work. Happier with a software phone but I'm not a typical end user either way.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


tribbledirigible posted:

Something that looks like it should have bee obseleted and I just found out is still actually current is the handset lifter:


It works in conjuction with some wireless headsets for phones and gives a very distinctive whirr noise when you're hanging up with a person using it. It had me thinking one of my vendors had a robot arm, but the reality was much less cool.

I thought it would be some janky no-name company that would undertake such a risky device. Nope, loving Sennheiser, so it's GOTTA cost a lot of money.

Yermaw Zahoor
Feb 24, 2009

Humphreys posted:

I thought it would be some janky no-name company that would undertake such a risky device. Nope, loving Sennheiser, so it's GOTTA cost a lot of money.

Nah, they are about £25

tribbledirigible
Jul 27, 2004
I finally beat the internet. The end boss was hard.

Mister Kingdom posted:

Ha! That's what I have at work. Occasionally, the lifter will operate on its on raising and lowering the receiver over and over again.

Near any other strong radio signal sources?

Or it's just working out and one day will fling your handset at you, thus signalling the start of the Robot Revolution.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

tribbledirigible posted:

Near any other strong radio signal sources?

Or it's just working out and one day will fling your handset at you, thus signalling the start of the Robot Revolution.

No radio sources that I'm aware of. And nobody else's headset does it.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Mister Kingdom posted:

No radio sources that I'm aware of. And nobody else's headset does it.

Ghosts. Get a priest.

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

I remember living in a town when I was twelve or so (say, 1993ish?) and for local calls we didn't even have to enter the prefix, just the final four digits. The joys of living in a backwater Oklahoma town of 800 people served solely by a two-county telephone cooperative, I guess.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Same in our town of ~20k in the early '90s, though we used 5 digits. Looking at it now, we apparently had a system where a complete number was always 8 digits, but the region code / local split varied between 2+6 or 3+5. We've had 8-digit numbers for everyone since 1993, though. (Norway. There's just 5 million of us, anyway.)

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

When they launched the first-gen mobile network here (NMT) everyone had 6 digit numbers. A few years later they had to expand that to 7 because they underestimated how many customers they would get.

I've stopped remembering phone numbers, but for some reason I still remember my dad's NMT number even though it hasn't been in use for 15 years.

Collateral Damage has a new favorite as of 07:53 on Jun 22, 2015

CroatianAlzheimers
Jun 15, 2009

I can't remember why I'm mad at you...


In rural central Ohio in 1981 we still had a party line.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I think it was in this thread - but whoever recommended the documentary 'Side by Side' about Film vs. Digital...WOW what a great story. Loved it.

Also: Halt and Catch Fire is into the new season!

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Magnus Praeda posted:

Nope. Regardless of if I'm calling from a cell phone or a land line, if the prefix of the number is "local" (i.e. it shows up as a number from this city), I just dial the 7-digit phone number. If I am calling a number from a different city, I have to add the area code. I do live in one of the few states that only has 1 area code--I don't know if that makes the difference.

Had this happen a couple years back in Nebraska when they put in a new area code prefix - even locally I have to dial an area code, places more than 45 minutes away require 1+area code even if the area code is the same

Chrtrptnt
Aug 18, 2008

CroatianAlzheimers posted:

In rural central Ohio in 1981 we still had a party line.

My mom and her boyfriend live in the boonies in VA, and in 2015 still have a party line.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

Humphreys posted:

I think it was in this thread - but whoever recommended the documentary 'Side by Side' about Film vs. Digital...WOW what a great story. Loved it.

Also: Halt and Catch Fire is into the new season!

It was me, and I'm glad you liked it. I really thought it was amazing too.

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

Non Serviam posted:

It was me, and I'm glad you liked it. I really thought it was amazing too.

I enjoyed it too but I wish Keanu Reeves wasn't in it. He was a distracting and annoying presence.

CroatianAlzheimers
Jun 15, 2009

I can't remember why I'm mad at you...


Chrtrptnt posted:

My mom and her boyfriend live in the boonies in VA, and in 2015 still have a party line.

Christ almighty, really? I thought we'd moved past that as a society.

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

CroatianAlzheimers posted:

Christ almighty, really? I thought we'd moved past that as a society.

I bet it works great when one of the people on the party line use their modem to connect to AOL.

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


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CroatianAlzheimers posted:

Christ almighty, really? I thought we'd moved past that as a society.

Honestly a loving minute phone would be better than dealing with a party line.

Don't let the inbred backwoods booger eating cousin fuckers run the phone company.

CroatianAlzheimers
Jun 15, 2009

I can't remember why I'm mad at you...


Ultimate Mango posted:

I bet it works great when one of the people on the party line use their modem to connect to AOL.

I remember one of the neighbors would constantly listen in on everyone's conversations. She'd listen in on my dad talking to my granddad, and that's how I learned how to swear.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Delaware has one area code for the whole state, and it's not in the middle of nowhere or sparsely populated. I mean people per square mile, not total amount of them. Plenty of Delaware signage/ads for businesses just list seven digits for the number.

Chrtrptnt
Aug 18, 2008

Vanagoon posted:

Honestly a loving minute phone would be better than dealing with a party line.

Don't let the inbred backwoods booger eating cousin fuckers run the phone company.

Dude, chill, that's my mom. They both have cell phones, the party line was there when they bought the house and I have no idea who pays for it and how it may be split up. I'm pretty sure they are younger than the other dozen or so people (I think there are maybe 5 houses total right there) by at least 30 years. Maybe the phone company is just waiting for them all to die to scrap that copper.

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


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I was trying to poo poo on the phone company, not your family. Sorry.

tacodaemon
Nov 27, 2006



I have a friend whose parents in rural Massachusetts are still on a party line that nobody else is on anymore, but they save money by still paying the party-line rate for what is now effectively an individual line. (At least, they were still on it as of a few years ago, when I hear they were fighting with the phone company about it. Maybe I'll ask my buddy about his folks' current phone situation next time I see him.)

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


DNova posted:

I enjoyed it too but I wish Keanu Reeves wasn't in it. He was a distracting and annoying presence.

I liked that he was in it - instead of some random jackass, it was an actor that the DPs etc knew from working with. I think it made their answers more kandid. And holy poo poo at seeing early AVID, I was an editor for 5 years and seeing the birth of what I used was kinda nostalgic. I also felt kinda hosed over, there are people who JUST do color. poo poo I had to do everything from storyboarding, scripting, filming, digitizing, editing, color grading, exporting and distribution. I knew I was paid over the average, but gently caress that noise. I was doing maybe 4 peoples jobs (and BADLY!)

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


CroatianAlzheimers posted:

I remember one of the neighbors would constantly listen in on everyone's conversations. She'd listen in on my dad talking to my granddad, and that's how I learned how to swear.

Well in Unclefuck, backwoods VA, spreading rumors behind people's backs is probably just about the only entertainment available. Gotta get that juicy dirt from somewhere.

And people talk about how small town life is so wonderful because "everyone knows each other". :rolleye:

H2SO4
Sep 11, 2001

put your money in a log cabin


Buglord
edit: sorry unintentional quote necro

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Woolie Wool posted:

And people talk about how small town life is so wonderful because "everyone knows each other". :rolleye:

No it isn't. Especially when your dad's a cop and the rest of you mother's family are cops, firefighters, and the county coroner.

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Star Man posted:

No it isn't. Especially when your dad's a cop and the rest of you mother's family are cops, firefighters, and the county coroner.

Only bad if you are the local drug dealer

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